| mhall119 | sgclark: can you register for https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 ? I can't add you to summit.ubuntu.com as a track lead until you do | 02:00 |
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| sgclark | mhall119: done | 02:00 |
| mhall119 | thanks sgclark | 02:08 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: now now, just because it has mplayer in the name doesnt mean its a POS... its actual quite stable, but yeah, as a base for phonon , it might give you slight migraines. although as an added fun it also has ffmpeg code in it... oh the joy! it makes my debugging skill all smoochy inside | 03:04 |
| bukai | Riddell: I have come up with some ideas for the website, i.e. creating a theme instead of using a default one from wp. Shall I go ahead with the idea i have in mind for the theme? | 04:52 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:10 |
| soee | good morning | 07:50 |
| _Groo_ | howdy soee | 09:05 |
| soee | _Groo_: hiho | 09:37 |
| _Groo_ | :) | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: reckon someone needs to file for KF5 SRU exception starting with 15.04 | 09:38 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: !!! long time no see | 09:41 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: my favorite phonon developer | 09:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: meh | 09:52 |
| Riddell | I'm taking a day off walking in the hills | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: hello there, welcome back | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: have fun | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | wait, walking in the hills Oo | 09:53 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: tks tks, so are you considering using cmplayer as a phonon NSA backdoor, i mean phonon backend? | 09:54 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah he took a shovel | 09:54 |
| apachelogger | no | 09:54 |
| apachelogger | mplayer has no api | 09:54 |
| apachelogger | or does it not actually use mplayer? | 09:55 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: it uses ffmpeg | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | at any rate, anything that is directly tied to ffmpeg is unadoptable by half the world and has the added pointlessness of 'we could just use ffmpeg' | 09:55 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: and mpv | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | martin sandsmark even has an ffmpeg phonon backend | 09:55 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i remember a mplayer backend back in the day | 09:56 |
| _Groo_ | used to work | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | it really didn't | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | since mplayer has no api | 09:56 |
| _Groo_ | it as just a big blob, it called the player directly | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | everything built ontop of mplayer is usually derpy crap | 09:56 |
| _Groo_ | it was* | 09:56 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: well we have 3 bazillion players but besides gstreamer we dont have any good multimedia frameworks | 09:57 |
| _Groo_ | either we use libav/ffmpeg or... vlc? | 09:57 |
| _Groo_ | and even those , cross polinate | 09:57 |
| apachelogger | there really only should be one framework TBH | 09:57 |
| _Groo_ | two... for competition sake | 09:58 |
| _Groo_ | if you want to *uck things up, lets make just ONE framework, developed by committee and with apple AND google has leaders | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | platformwise the fragementation is very counterproudctive and is the reason multimedia on linux sucks balls | 09:59 |
| _Groo_ | that should be fun and fast | 09:59 |
| _Groo_ | fragmentation IS linux | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | no it's not | 10:00 |
| _Groo_ | is xine still developed? | 10:00 |
| _Groo_ | not in life support, but actively developed? | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | nope | 10:03 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: so theres not much choice is it? | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: there's two | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | which is one too many considering both leave you wanting | 10:14 |
| _Groo_ | vlc and gstreamer | 10:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:20 |
| sgclark | morning | 11:31 |
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| santa_ | hi | 14:39 |
| manchicken | Hi. | 14:42 |
| Riddell | 12:07 < didrocks> Riddell: hey, do you think there would be anything kde-side blocking a bluez5 transition? | 17:16 |
| Riddell | hmm I always forget that | 17:16 |
| _Groo_ | oh bluez5, yes please | 17:25 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: do you think my cmplayer proposal was well accepted? :P | 17:26 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: i wonder what the reaction would be if it was a complex or dangerous package. so much | 17:26 |
| _Groo_ | drama | 17:26 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: sorry I've been away today and not read the replies | 17:32 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: its a good read | 17:33 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: how was the hicking? | 17:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: hope you had a good day, stopping in, or do you have a moment for a question? | 17:36 |
| lordievader | Is the Plasma5 image boken? Used Unetbootin to make a live-usb. And sddm is saying it can't open /lib/init/init-d-script | 17:57 |
| lordievader | And he is right, there is no such file. | 17:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: bukai asked me for the WP site code | 18:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm not sure I understand what exactly to give him | 18:01 |
| lordievader | Ah restarting sddm fixed it. | 18:01 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ask away | 18:02 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I gave him an account on the server so he should have everything | 18:02 |
| Riddell | _Groo_: ach didn't get that far, ended up with doors locked with me on one side and neighbours on the other | 18:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: then why did he ask me for the code? which by the way he shouldn't need | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | WP is open source, if he really needs the core code | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | but for developing a theme I don't think it is necessary | 18:07 |
| Riddell | no it's not | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | don't get me wrong | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | he can have it | 18:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I found our config path issue which will fix several items, plasam5 moved to XDG_CONFIG_DIR which is set in 00upstart and then overwritten in 60x11-common_xdg_path and I can only get *rc files to be aknowleged in the paths there. /usr/share/kubuntu-settings setup no longer works. Soooo my question is how to best override so we can seperate kubuntu specific configs | 18:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | but it isn't necessary | 18:08 |
| sgclark | Riddell: right now I can only get config files to work in /etc/xdg and /etc/xdg/xdg-plasma | 18:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: as set by 60x11-common-xdg-path Xsession.d script | 18:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: (also it breaks the upstart script FYI) | 18:10 |
| lordievader | Hmm the plasma5 installer crashed on removing intamfstools. | 18:20 |
| lordievader | Can the Kubuntu Next ppa be used on Vivid? | 18:52 |
| sgclark | No - work in progress of moving to normal ppa/archive | 18:53 |
| lordievader | Ok, then I won't add it (yet). | 18:54 |
| lordievader | Thanks. | 18:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I am putting all of my notes and discoveries on the trello card, just take a look when you have time. Thanks | 19:08 |
| Riddell | thanks sgclark | 19:19 |
| soee | hey hey | 19:20 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I guess somehow we want to override a setting or environement variable to add to the xdg directories | 19:20 |
| Riddell | $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS | 19:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: right, my question is where | 19:20 |
| Riddell | that needs set somewhere | 19:20 |
| Riddell | previously we did it as a patch to startkde | 19:20 |
| Riddell | I don't have a problem with doing the same again | 19:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: oh gmm | 19:20 |
| sgclark | err | 19:21 |
| Riddell | actually we added it to /etc/kde4rc | 19:21 |
| sgclark | Riddell: this is for plasma 5 tho | 19:21 |
| sgclark | Riddell: which I am not convinced reads that and I tried kderc | 19:21 |
| Riddell | no it won't but I wonder if there's something equivalent | 19:21 |
| Riddell | http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html might say | 19:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yeah I have been on the hunt for many hours. Google is failing me. | 19:22 |
| Riddell | where is /etc/xdg/xdg-plasma being set? that must be set by something | 19:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I will keep looking | 19:22 |
| sgclark | Riddell: 60x11-common_xdg_path would get overwritten on upgrades. | 19:23 |
| Riddell | oh I see | 19:23 |
| Riddell | well slap a 70xdg-kubuntu-dir in there | 19:23 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I don't know if it is important, but I noticed 00upstart also exports this path but it gets reset by 60x11-common_xdg_path | 19:24 |
| Riddell | which just does export XDG_DATA_DIRS=XDG_DATA_DIRS:/usr/share/kubuntu-settings/kf5-settings | 19:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that was my train of thought was going | 19:24 |
| sgclark | Riddell: right, I got it sorted :) thanks !!!! | 19:24 |
| Riddell | yay, good stuff sgclark | 19:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: and I learned kubuntu-settings in this task lol woot | 19:25 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: kf5 doesn't meet the criteria for a standing exception. | 20:03 |
| sgclark | yay it works! where should I put my shiny new kubuntu-settings Riddell | 20:12 |
| soee | someone on Plasma5 ? | 20:20 |
| sgclark | yeah | 20:21 |
| soee | sgclark: does partition manager work for you ? | 20:22 |
| sgclark | soee: it starts and lists my drives etc. I don't have any spare drives to try and format sorry | 20:24 |
| soee | sgclark: thats not the case | 20:27 |
| soee | for me it says: Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_.so: .. | 20:27 |
| soee | s i have this error only and app does nto start | 20:28 |
| sgclark | soee: that seems to be a common problem. did you just install it? | 20:28 |
| sgclark | soee: try running in a terminal /usr/bin/partitionmanager | 20:29 |
| soee | hm it says that file /home/soee/.kde/share/config/partitionmanagerrc is not ready to write | 20:29 |
| soee | strange | 20:30 |
| soee | yeah this singl efile in this location has: -rw------- 1 root root 868 Jul 20 12:41 partitionmanagerrc | 20:31 |
| soee | is it possible that partision manager create dit with root permissions only ? | 20:31 |
| sgclark | gosh I don't rightly know | 20:32 |
| sgclark | mine does not behave that way | 20:32 |
| soee | ok i hcanged rights, now i can run it from terminal | 20:32 |
| sgclark | Riddell: pushed to bzr. Review and put where you need it. Thanks | 20:58 |
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