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tonihola00:35
LinusTorvaldIIno one talks here its bizarre01:21
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MangaKaDenzahi02:12
MangaKaDenzaso, sometimes when i close my netbook, and open it later, the icons switch to different looking ones (mainly in the system tray), and Kickoff or the cashew won't display the "suspend" thing02:13
MangaKaDenzaits as if it forgot this is a netbook, since i also don't see the battery item in the tray02:14
blueyedWhere has the packaging for tomahawk moved to? The package mentions https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/tomahawk, but that's 404.02:18
blueyedWe're in the process of setting up nightly builds via Launchpad recipes in #tomahawk, and it would make sense to use Kubuntu's packaging.02:18
MangaKaDenzahttps://launchpad.net/tomahawk this?02:21
MangaKaDenzaach03:01
MangaKaDenza>Unable to contact KDED03:01
MangaKaDenzahow do I restart KDED03:07
MangaKaDenzaah, kded4 without args03:12
james0rlooking for a now playing panel widget that will display cover art, track/artist info and controls for spotify. any recommendations?04:14
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lordievaderGood morning.07:10
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James0ranyone know where i can find additional templates for the adjustable clock widget? for some reason they all look awful with the defaul panel size.07:40
soeegood morning07:50
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cdunn70000000000hello can anyone help me at all?08:55
hateball!ask08:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:55
cdunn70000000000hello im having a issue with installing a ati mobility 4250 hd graphics card as a propeitry driver on 14.0408:56
cdunn70000000000?09:01
valorie!ati09:02
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:02
valorieI hope that helps, cdunn7000000000009:02
cdunn70000000000thanks but apparently amd have stopped my card support on ubuntu 12.0409:03
cdunn70000000000thats currently why im currently stuck on a open souce driver09:03
valorieand what is the problem with that?09:03
cdunn70000000000i want to play games?09:04
cdunn70000000000im having graphical issues just running simple games such as ck209:04
valoriecdunn70000000000: have you tried driver-manager?09:04
cdunn70000000000yes09:04
valorieI'm sure there are others that know far more than I do, so you can either wait for one of those people, look in the forums, or write to the user list09:05
cdunn70000000000ok thanks09:05
SaphyelGMornin'09:43
cdunn70000000000hi09:44
lordievadero/09:44
depeszhi. i'm on trusty. after last update it looks like ssh-agent is no longer started, but instead something called "gnome-keyring" is. how can I disable it and revert to normal ssh-agent?10:05
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Walexdepesz: someone else was looking at that yesterday...11:08
Walexdepesz: the 'gnome-keyring' daemon is as the name shows a key agent for GNOME.11:09
depeszyeah. but i never used it. i don't use *keyring* to store passwords. the only thing I used was ssh-agent, and I want to keep using it.11:12
Walexdepesz: so you need to look at the various places where per-X11-session daemons are started and edit them. The 'Xsession', 'xinitrc', 'env' subdirectory, etc.11:12
depeszso far I removed *gnome-keyring* packages, and aftrer reboot I got normal ssh-agent environment, but I'm afraid that it will come back :/11:12
BluesKajHey folks11:20
depeszhi11:27
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silv3r_m00nhi there12:44
silv3r_m00nis it incorrect to use update-manager command to upgrade kubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 ? the man page says, its going to install the ubuntu-desktop package12:45
BluesKajyes silv3r_m00n , but sudo do-release-upgrade will work as well, but turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager first12:47
BluesKajand make sure you update and upgrade before upgrading to 14.10, silv3r_m00n12:48
silv3r_m00nBluesKaj: yeah, doing that only12:48
silv3r_m00nearlier i thought of using update-manager, but suddenly i checked the man page and found that information, so now thinking of using do-release-upgrade with mode desktop. and by the way, what is FRONTEND , the -f option to do-release-upgrade ?12:49
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BluesKajsilv3r_m00n, all package managers use dpkg so you still need to turn the "LTS only" off12:51
silv3r_m00nBluesKaj: yeah, done that12:52
BluesKajok silv3r_m00n, in the terminal, sudo do-release-upgrade12:53
silv3r_m00nhow about this, ~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE12:55
BluesKajwhere did you get that from...what's the purpose of that command?12:57
silv3r_m00ni got it here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu   and it pops a gui window12:58
BluesKajwell if you want to the upgrade manager then go ahead , but don't mix apt-get and the package manager, use one or the other.13:00
silv3r_m00nmeans ?13:02
silv3r_m00nwhat does this command do  sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE  ?13:02
lordievadersilv3r_m00n: It upgrades you to the next available version of (K)Ubuntu. And you tell it to use the DistUpgradeViewKDE frontend. However, I'm wondering what is wrong with the terminal (screen) view...13:13
silv3r_m00nlordievader: no nothing, just checking the options, i would better do with the terminal view13:21
silv3r_m00nthanks for the help by the way13:21
silv3r_m00nand are there any kind of backups i should take before the upgrade ?13:22
lordievadersilv3r_m00n: Yes. Allways have backups.13:28
w7ldnlol, should always have backups, upgrade or no13:31
crancoccohello13:32
lordievaderw7ldn: Exactly ;)13:36
daroktharI it possible to fix a window to the left and set it's behaviour like a panel. For example i want my skype to be fixed to the right screen edge and when i maximize other windows, i'd like them to take only the space left.13:40
daroktharI just don't know how to google this.13:40
lordievaderdarokthar: Perhaps you can set window rules to that effect. But I don't have KDE loaded at this moment to check if it is possible.13:42
lelamalHi all! When I check for updates, on Muon Update Manager, I'm told a new version of Kubuntu is available. Then I click on Upgrade, enter my password, but nothing happens. I try to copy/paste the command from the popup window on Konsole, and this is what it says: http://paste.kde.org/pfcgfyuwx13:43
daroktharlordievader, thx maybe i'll ask in the kde channel.13:43
lelamalWhat can I do to solve the problem?13:43
BluesKajlelamal, update and upgrade your OS first, then turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager13:46
BluesKajthen , sudo do-release-upgrade in the terminal lelamal13:47
lordievaderlelamal: And perhaps tell it to use the en_US locale.13:50
lelamalBluesKaj: it's already set to "normal releases". Ok, then, I'll do the rest as you said and see what happens. Thank you!13:50
lelamallordievader: I'll do that, thank you.13:50
kubuntu89fuxhi everyone :)13:54
kubuntu89fux\leave13:55
BluesKajanother smartass nick13:55
excalibr:D13:56
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mfraz74doing the upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 and the upgrade is stuck on "configuring update-notifier-common" at 0%14:36
BluesKajmfraz74,  update and upgrade your OS first, then turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager14:39
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mfraz74BluesKaj: the OS was fully up-to-date14:40
mfraz74the upgrade is at 91% with configuring-update-notifier stuck at 0%14:40
BluesKajmfraz74, is the upgrade still running or is it stuck?14:41
mfraz74BluesKaj: with the terminal open at the bottom of the window, it is still running with [Working]0%14:42
BluesKajmfraz74, it takes a while, seems it took 20 mins on my dsl connection the last time I upgraded to a new release.14:44
mfraz74BluesKaj: it did the same thing on my laptop and I left that for 8 hours without it finishing.14:45
BluesKajmfraz74, that's why I use the terminal14:45
BluesKajpackage managers can get stuck minor errors that apt will skip over with a warning14:46
mfraz74BluesKaj: looks like it could be ttf-mscorefonts-installer that is causing it14:46
BluesKajthen that possibly needs your agreement like java installation \14:47
BluesKaj0.14:55
mfraz74killed the upgrade and ran apt-get -f install14:58
mfraz74looks like it is having trouble fetching andale32.exe14:58
mfraz74The HTTP server sent an invalid Content-Range header15:01
mfraz74E: Failed to fetch http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe  The HTTP server sent an invalid Content-Range header15:01
mfraz74https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/137178315:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 1371783 in msttcorefonts (Ubuntu) "package ttf-mscorefonts-installer 3.4+nmu1ubuntu2 (utopic) fails to install/upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:07
BluesKajmfraz74, that's a windows .exe  file it womn't run on linux15:08
mfraz74BluesKaj: it is installed as part of the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package15:08
BluesKajmfraz74, do you have some ppas in your sources.list?15:09
mfraz74BluesKaj: yes, but they were all disabled during the upgrade as they usually are15:09
BluesKajif so comment them with # in front or delete them altogether , or remove them from /etc/aptsources.list.d15:10
mfraz74going to try rebooting now15:10
mfraz74fingers crossed15:11
BluesKaj /etc/apt/sources.list.d15:11
jimmy51v_how can i set my wallpaper from the terminal?  i have a jpg in $HOME/Pictures/sample.jpg   in Mint I do >        gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///$HOME/Pictures/sample.jpg"         < and it works.15:13
BluesKajjimmy51v_, I use 6 desktops so it's easier to use the default desktop settings15:15
jimmy51v_BluesKaj: you mean ... you just don't set your wallpaper at all?15:15
BluesKajyes i set wallpaper on 6 different virtual desktops15:17
BluesKajby right clicking on the desktop and choosing "default desktop settiings" which then brings up the dewsktop settings gui15:18
BluesKajdesktop settings gui15:19
jimmy51v_BluesKaj: ok... so you have to click a UI.  I've got to script it.  is there something simliar to gsettings that would let me do so in KDE?15:20
BluesKajjimmy51v_, this is kubuntu support, it's assumed your on KDE15:21
BluesKajyou're15:21
jimmy51v_BluesKaj: yeah... i'm starting with Kubuntu 14.04 but I have to add cinnamon as an option for a group of users who prefer it.15:22
BluesKajwell,  what I posted above applies to kde/kubuntu-desktop15:22
jimmy51v_BluesKaj: hmm... i must have missed something.  did you post something about setting wallpaper in Kubuntu from the terminal?15:26
BluesKajno15:27
BluesKajity's easier from the desktop gui15:27
jimmy51v_heh.  maybe once at a time.  not when you're deploying to 50+ machines!15:27
BluesKajwell, that's the first time anyone has asked that in my experience, besides whynot let the 50+ users choose their own wall paper :)15:32
jimmy51v_BluesKaj: hehe.  power users, sure.  this is quite a shock to normal office workers.  i want it to look as much like their old machine as possible.15:49
rbergjimmy51v_:  have you looked at this? https://code.google.com/p/ksetwallpaper/15:52
jimmy51v_rberg:  i have not15:53
jimmy51v_reading...15:53
rbergor maybe you can simply overwrite the file of the default wallpaper15:54
rbergbut in that case I would expect kubuntu updates to put it back int he fiture15:54
rberg*future15:54
rberglooks like that is stored in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc maybe you could sed it15:58
skinuxI need a free software for password protecting a directory?15:58
aljosadid some recent update changed the way ssh-agent works? i have my ssh keys loaded when i start kubuntu and i can't use keys16:00
aljosapreviously nothing was loaded16:00
aljosa"ssh-add -D" doesn't work, keys are still listed w/ "ssh-add -L"16:00
rodolfojcjhello!16:20
rodolfojcjdoes anyone know a way to kill/logout desktop sessions in Kubuntu 14.10?16:20
rodolfojcjwith kubuntu 14.04 I used "loginctl list-sessions" followed by something like "loginctl terminate-session c8", even without sudo or without being root user (which I considered a security bug, because I was able to kill a logged in user with minimal privileges)16:22
rodolfojcjbut right now with 14.10 I can't, even using sudo16:23
rodolfojcjI want to kill/logout some locked guest desktop sessions that are consuming resources, and I don't want to reboot the system16:25
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mpm_Hi, I know it's a tech preview but I'm trying to install the plasma 5 kubuntu. When I press 'Install ubuntu' at the boot screen it just goes to the live session. Just wondering if anyone has any advice18:01
mpm_Maybe I could go into a terminal and start the installation that way18:03
mpm_although I don't know how18:03
lordievadermpm_: I was just installing the same thing, I have an 'Install Kubuntu Plasma5' icon on the desktop.18:03
lordievaderThat start the installer just fine.18:04
mpm_lordievader: I don't have that18:05
mpm_found it by searching for it18:06
lordievaderHmm, here sddm didn't start properly, did you have that problem?18:06
mpm_maybe, but I have the installer now anyway18:07
mpm_This is scary, it says /dev/sda free space 1000204 MB i.e. my whole hard drive18:08
mpm_Probably a bug18:08
mpm_(hopefully)18:08
mpm_Yeah I'll just install ubuntu :p18:09
lordievadermpm_: Hold on, does it have windows installed?18:09
mpm_yes18:09
lordievadermpm_: Is it a dynamic disk?18:09
mpm_I don't know18:09
lordievadermpm_: Windows will very happily convert your disk to a dynamic disk with one click. But Linux doesn't support Windows Dynamic Disks and converting it back to a basic disk means wiping it... :(18:10
mpm_oh damn18:10
mpm_so no linux for me unless I wipe my disk?18:10
lordievadermpm_: I don't say that. Check if it is a dynamic disk.18:11
mpm_I'm in the live session right now so I'll boot back into windows and check18:12
mpm_Well I have the option to convert the disk to a dynamic disk so I assume it isn't already18:18
mpm_lordievader ^18:19
lordievadermpm_: No, I don't think so either.18:20
mpm_lordievader: now what?18:20
lordievadermpm_: Err, try again and hope this time partitions are detected correctly?18:21
mpm_I haven't changed anything so I doubt there will be a difference but thanks anyway18:21
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irish_canonHello all18:45
irish_canonId like to make a script that auto backs up a USB drive no matter the make or size18:46
lordievaderirish_canon: Write a script that rsync a folder to some mountpoint and a udev rule to mount the stick there and fire up the script.18:50
irish_canonsure, as long as it works18:51
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Zephyr1139what is the suggested swap space size for kubuntu 14.10 ?20:01
Zephyr1139!swap20:01
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info20:01
BluesKajZephyr1139, usually 1.5x your ram, above 6G use the same as ram20:03
lordievaderZephyr1139: Do you plan on using hibernate?20:05
Zephyr1139not planning on using hibernate. I'm setting up a tower.  free -m reports a total of 2000.  So I'll reserve 3000 as swap.20:07
soeehmm i never used swap in last 2-3 years :D20:08
lordievaderZephyr1139: I never assign more than 5Gb of swap, if I assign swap at all.20:08
Zephyr1139should the swap partion occur before the '/' parition?  I'm dual booting this tower PC BTW.20:11
lordievaderZephyr1139: Doesn't matter.20:13
Zephyr1139I've got /dev/sda1 ntfs, /dev/sda2 swap, and /dev/sda3 ext4. Which device should I choose for the Boot loader? The selection box defaulted to just /dev/sda.20:22
lordievaderZephyr1139: If you only have one drive, sda.20:23
soeehttp://ultimate-solution.com.pk/2014/05/all-about-linux-swap-partition/20:25
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JeZxLeeGreat O.S. - I bounce around alot trying new one's but always come back to Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit...20:45
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MangaKaDenzaargh21:23
MangaKaDenzaso, I'm trying to install Plasma 5's KDE-baseapps package from neon, and it keeps giving me an error that there's one file provided by kio-extras21:23
MangaKaDenza/opt/project-neon5/share/kservices5/filenamesearch.protocol21:23
MangaKaDenzaand I cant remove kio-extras21:23
MangaKaDenzapls help21:24
TheFakeazneD525how to install kde-baseapps (kf5) in Trusty21:42
stanislavplasma 5 is very cool!21:48

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