[00:35] <toni> hola
[01:21] <LinusTorvaldII> no one talks here its bizarre
[02:12] <MangaKaDenza> hi
[02:13] <MangaKaDenza> so, sometimes when i close my netbook, and open it later, the icons switch to different looking ones (mainly in the system tray), and Kickoff or the cashew won't display the "suspend" thing
[02:14] <MangaKaDenza> its as if it forgot this is a netbook, since i also don't see the battery item in the tray
[02:18] <blueyed> Where has the packaging for tomahawk moved to? The package mentions https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/tomahawk, but that's 404.
[02:18] <blueyed> We're in the process of setting up nightly builds via Launchpad recipes in #tomahawk, and it would make sense to use Kubuntu's packaging.
[02:21] <MangaKaDenza> https://launchpad.net/tomahawk this?
[03:01] <MangaKaDenza> ach
[03:01] <MangaKaDenza> >Unable to contact KDED
[03:07] <MangaKaDenza> how do I restart KDED
[03:12] <MangaKaDenza> ah, kded4 without args
[04:14] <james0r> looking for a now playing panel widget that will display cover art, track/artist info and controls for spotify. any recommendations?
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:40] <James0r> anyone know where i can find additional templates for the adjustable clock widget? for some reason they all look awful with the defaul panel size.
[07:50] <soee> good morning
[08:55] <cdunn70000000000> hello can anyone help me at all?
[08:55] <hateball> !ask
[08:56] <cdunn70000000000> hello im having a issue with installing a ati mobility 4250 hd graphics card as a propeitry driver on 14.04
[09:01] <cdunn70000000000> ?
[09:02] <valorie> !ati
[09:02] <valorie> I hope that helps, cdunn70000000000
[09:03] <cdunn70000000000> thanks but apparently amd have stopped my card support on ubuntu 12.04
[09:03] <cdunn70000000000> thats currently why im currently stuck on a open souce driver
[09:03] <valorie> and what is the problem with that?
[09:04] <cdunn70000000000> i want to play games?
[09:04] <cdunn70000000000> im having graphical issues just running simple games such as ck2
[09:04] <valorie> cdunn70000000000: have you tried driver-manager?
[09:04] <cdunn70000000000> yes
[09:05] <valorie> I'm sure there are others that know far more than I do, so you can either wait for one of those people, look in the forums, or write to the user list
[09:05] <cdunn70000000000> ok thanks
[09:43] <Saphyel> GMornin'
[09:44] <cdunn70000000000> hi
[09:44] <lordievader> o/
[10:05] <depesz> hi. i'm on trusty. after last update it looks like ssh-agent is no longer started, but instead something called "gnome-keyring" is. how can I disable it and revert to normal ssh-agent?
[11:08] <Walex> depesz: someone else was looking at that yesterday...
[11:09] <Walex> depesz: the 'gnome-keyring' daemon is as the name shows a key agent for GNOME.
[11:12] <depesz> yeah. but i never used it. i don't use *keyring* to store passwords. the only thing I used was ssh-agent, and I want to keep using it.
[11:12] <Walex> depesz: so you need to look at the various places where per-X11-session daemons are started and edit them. The 'Xsession', 'xinitrc', 'env' subdirectory, etc.
[11:12] <depesz> so far I removed *gnome-keyring* packages, and aftrer reboot I got normal ssh-agent environment, but I'm afraid that it will come back :/
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:27] <depesz> hi
[12:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:45] <silv3r_m00n> is it incorrect to use update-manager command to upgrade kubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 ? the man page says, its going to install the ubuntu-desktop package
[12:47] <BluesKaj> yes silv3r_m00n , but sudo do-release-upgrade will work as well, but turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager first
[12:48] <BluesKaj> and make sure you update and upgrade before upgrading to 14.10, silv3r_m00n
[12:48] <silv3r_m00n> BluesKaj: yeah, doing that only
[12:49] <silv3r_m00n> earlier i thought of using update-manager, but suddenly i checked the man page and found that information, so now thinking of using do-release-upgrade with mode desktop. and by the way, what is FRONTEND , the -f option to do-release-upgrade ?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> silv3r_m00n, all package managers use dpkg so you still need to turn the "LTS only" off
[12:52] <silv3r_m00n> BluesKaj: yeah, done that
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ok silv3r_m00n, in the terminal, sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:55] <silv3r_m00n> how about this, ~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE
[12:57] <BluesKaj> where did you get that from...what's the purpose of that command?
[12:58] <silv3r_m00n> i got it here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu   and it pops a gui window
[13:00] <BluesKaj> well if you want to the upgrade manager then go ahead , but don't mix apt-get and the package manager, use one or the other.
[13:02] <silv3r_m00n> means ?
[13:02] <silv3r_m00n> what does this command do  sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE  ?
[13:13] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: It upgrades you to the next available version of (K)Ubuntu. And you tell it to use the DistUpgradeViewKDE frontend. However, I'm wondering what is wrong with the terminal (screen) view...
[13:21] <silv3r_m00n> lordievader: no nothing, just checking the options, i would better do with the terminal view
[13:21] <silv3r_m00n> thanks for the help by the way
[13:22] <silv3r_m00n> and are there any kind of backups i should take before the upgrade ?
[13:28] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: Yes. Allways have backups.
[13:31] <w7ldn> lol, should always have backups, upgrade or no
[13:32] <crancocco> hello
[13:36] <lordievader> w7ldn: Exactly ;)
[13:40] <darokthar> I it possible to fix a window to the left and set it's behaviour like a panel. For example i want my skype to be fixed to the right screen edge and when i maximize other windows, i'd like them to take only the space left.
[13:40] <darokthar> I just don't know how to google this.
[13:42] <lordievader> darokthar: Perhaps you can set window rules to that effect. But I don't have KDE loaded at this moment to check if it is possible.
[13:43] <lelamal> Hi all! When I check for updates, on Muon Update Manager, I'm told a new version of Kubuntu is available. Then I click on Upgrade, enter my password, but nothing happens. I try to copy/paste the command from the popup window on Konsole, and this is what it says: http://paste.kde.org/pfcgfyuwx
[13:43] <darokthar> lordievader, thx maybe i'll ask in the kde channel.
[13:43] <lelamal> What can I do to solve the problem?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> lelamal, update and upgrade your OS first, then turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager
[13:47] <BluesKaj> then , sudo do-release-upgrade in the terminal lelamal
[13:50] <lordievader> lelamal: And perhaps tell it to use the en_US locale.
[13:50] <lelamal> BluesKaj: it's already set to "normal releases". Ok, then, I'll do the rest as you said and see what happens. Thank you!
[13:50] <lelamal> lordievader: I'll do that, thank you.
[13:54] <kubuntu89fux> hi everyone :)
[13:55] <kubuntu89fux> \leave
[13:55] <BluesKaj> another smartass nick
[13:56] <excalibr> :D
[14:36] <mfraz74> doing the upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 and the upgrade is stuck on "configuring update-notifier-common" at 0%
[14:39] <BluesKaj> mfraz74,  update and upgrade your OS first, then turn off the "LTS only upgrade" in the package manager
[14:40] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: the OS was fully up-to-date
[14:40] <mfraz74> the upgrade is at 91% with configuring-update-notifier stuck at 0%
[14:41] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, is the upgrade still running or is it stuck?
[14:42] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: with the terminal open at the bottom of the window, it is still running with [Working]0%
[14:44] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, it takes a while, seems it took 20 mins on my dsl connection the last time I upgraded to a new release.
[14:45] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: it did the same thing on my laptop and I left that for 8 hours without it finishing.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, that's why I use the terminal
[14:46] <BluesKaj> package managers can get stuck minor errors that apt will skip over with a warning
[14:46] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: looks like it could be ttf-mscorefonts-installer that is causing it
[14:47] <BluesKaj> then that possibly needs your agreement like java installation \
[14:55] <BluesKaj> 0.
[14:58] <mfraz74> killed the upgrade and ran apt-get -f install
[14:58] <mfraz74> looks like it is having trouble fetching andale32.exe
[15:01] <mfraz74> The HTTP server sent an invalid Content-Range header
[15:01] <mfraz74> E: Failed to fetch http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe  The HTTP server sent an invalid Content-Range header
[15:07] <mfraz74> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1371783
[15:08] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, that's a windows .exe  file it womn't run on linux
[15:08] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: it is installed as part of the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[15:09] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, do you have some ppas in your sources.list?
[15:09] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: yes, but they were all disabled during the upgrade as they usually are
[15:10] <BluesKaj> if so comment them with # in front or delete them altogether , or remove them from /etc/aptsources.list.d
[15:10] <mfraz74> going to try rebooting now
[15:11] <mfraz74> fingers crossed
[15:11] <BluesKaj>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:13] <jimmy51v_> how can i set my wallpaper from the terminal?  i have a jpg in $HOME/Pictures/sample.jpg   in Mint I do >        gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri "file:///$HOME/Pictures/sample.jpg"         < and it works.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> jimmy51v_, I use 6 desktops so it's easier to use the default desktop settings
[15:15] <jimmy51v_> BluesKaj: you mean ... you just don't set your wallpaper at all?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> yes i set wallpaper on 6 different virtual desktops
[15:18] <BluesKaj> by right clicking on the desktop and choosing "default desktop settiings" which then brings up the dewsktop settings gui
[15:19] <BluesKaj> desktop settings gui
[15:20] <jimmy51v_> BluesKaj: ok... so you have to click a UI.  I've got to script it.  is there something simliar to gsettings that would let me do so in KDE?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> jimmy51v_, this is kubuntu support, it's assumed your on KDE
[15:21] <BluesKaj> you're
[15:22] <jimmy51v_> BluesKaj: yeah... i'm starting with Kubuntu 14.04 but I have to add cinnamon as an option for a group of users who prefer it.
[15:22] <BluesKaj> well,  what I posted above applies to kde/kubuntu-desktop
[15:26] <jimmy51v_> BluesKaj: hmm... i must have missed something.  did you post something about setting wallpaper in Kubuntu from the terminal?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> no
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ity's easier from the desktop gui
[15:27] <jimmy51v_> heh.  maybe once at a time.  not when you're deploying to 50+ machines!
[15:32] <BluesKaj> well, that's the first time anyone has asked that in my experience, besides whynot let the 50+ users choose their own wall paper :)
[15:49] <jimmy51v_> BluesKaj: hehe.  power users, sure.  this is quite a shock to normal office workers.  i want it to look as much like their old machine as possible.
[15:52] <rberg> jimmy51v_:  have you looked at this? https://code.google.com/p/ksetwallpaper/
[15:53] <jimmy51v_> rberg:  i have not
[15:53] <jimmy51v_> reading...
[15:54] <rberg> or maybe you can simply overwrite the file of the default wallpaper
[15:54] <rberg> but in that case I would expect kubuntu updates to put it back int he fiture
[15:54] <rberg> *future
[15:58] <rberg> looks like that is stored in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc maybe you could sed it
[15:58] <skinux> I need a free software for password protecting a directory?
[16:00] <aljosa> did some recent update changed the way ssh-agent works? i have my ssh keys loaded when i start kubuntu and i can't use keys
[16:00] <aljosa> previously nothing was loaded
[16:00] <aljosa> "ssh-add -D" doesn't work, keys are still listed w/ "ssh-add -L"
[16:20] <rodolfojcj> hello!
[16:20] <rodolfojcj> does anyone know a way to kill/logout desktop sessions in Kubuntu 14.10?
[16:22] <rodolfojcj> with kubuntu 14.04 I used "loginctl list-sessions" followed by something like "loginctl terminate-session c8", even without sudo or without being root user (which I considered a security bug, because I was able to kill a logged in user with minimal privileges)
[16:23] <rodolfojcj> but right now with 14.10 I can't, even using sudo
[16:25] <rodolfojcj> I want to kill/logout some locked guest desktop sessions that are consuming resources, and I don't want to reboot the system
[18:01] <mpm_> Hi, I know it's a tech preview but I'm trying to install the plasma 5 kubuntu. When I press 'Install ubuntu' at the boot screen it just goes to the live session. Just wondering if anyone has any advice
[18:03] <mpm_> Maybe I could go into a terminal and start the installation that way
[18:03] <mpm_> although I don't know how
[18:03] <lordievader> mpm_: I was just installing the same thing, I have an 'Install Kubuntu Plasma5' icon on the desktop.
[18:04] <lordievader> That start the installer just fine.
[18:05] <mpm_> lordievader: I don't have that
[18:06] <mpm_> found it by searching for it
[18:06] <lordievader> Hmm, here sddm didn't start properly, did you have that problem?
[18:07] <mpm_> maybe, but I have the installer now anyway
[18:08] <mpm_> This is scary, it says /dev/sda free space 1000204 MB i.e. my whole hard drive
[18:08] <mpm_> Probably a bug
[18:08] <mpm_> (hopefully)
[18:09] <mpm_> Yeah I'll just install ubuntu :p
[18:09] <lordievader> mpm_: Hold on, does it have windows installed?
[18:09] <mpm_> yes
[18:09] <lordievader> mpm_: Is it a dynamic disk?
[18:09] <mpm_> I don't know
[18:10] <lordievader> mpm_: Windows will very happily convert your disk to a dynamic disk with one click. But Linux doesn't support Windows Dynamic Disks and converting it back to a basic disk means wiping it... :(
[18:10] <mpm_> oh damn
[18:10] <mpm_> so no linux for me unless I wipe my disk?
[18:11] <lordievader> mpm_: I don't say that. Check if it is a dynamic disk.
[18:12] <mpm_> I'm in the live session right now so I'll boot back into windows and check
[18:18] <mpm_> Well I have the option to convert the disk to a dynamic disk so I assume it isn't already
[18:19] <mpm_> lordievader ^
[18:20] <lordievader> mpm_: No, I don't think so either.
[18:20] <mpm_> lordievader: now what?
[18:21] <lordievader> mpm_: Err, try again and hope this time partitions are detected correctly?
[18:21] <mpm_> I haven't changed anything so I doubt there will be a difference but thanks anyway
[18:45] <irish_canon> Hello all
[18:46] <irish_canon> Id like to make a script that auto backs up a USB drive no matter the make or size
[18:50] <lordievader> irish_canon: Write a script that rsync a folder to some mountpoint and a udev rule to mount the stick there and fire up the script.
[18:51] <irish_canon> sure, as long as it works
[20:01] <Zephyr1139> what is the suggested swap space size for kubuntu 14.10 ?
[20:01] <Zephyr1139> !swap
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Zephyr1139, usually 1.5x your ram, above 6G use the same as ram
[20:05] <lordievader> Zephyr1139: Do you plan on using hibernate?
[20:07] <Zephyr1139> not planning on using hibernate. I'm setting up a tower.  free -m reports a total of 2000.  So I'll reserve 3000 as swap.
[20:08] <soee> hmm i never used swap in last 2-3 years :D
[20:08] <lordievader> Zephyr1139: I never assign more than 5Gb of swap, if I assign swap at all.
[20:11] <Zephyr1139> should the swap partion occur before the '/' parition?  I'm dual booting this tower PC BTW.
[20:13] <lordievader> Zephyr1139: Doesn't matter.
[20:22] <Zephyr1139> I've got /dev/sda1 ntfs, /dev/sda2 swap, and /dev/sda3 ext4. Which device should I choose for the Boot loader? The selection box defaulted to just /dev/sda.
[20:23] <lordievader> Zephyr1139: If you only have one drive, sda.
[20:25] <soee> http://ultimate-solution.com.pk/2014/05/all-about-linux-swap-partition/
[20:45] <JeZxLee> Great O.S. - I bounce around alot trying new one's but always come back to Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit...
[21:23] <MangaKaDenza> argh
[21:23] <MangaKaDenza> so, I'm trying to install Plasma 5's KDE-baseapps package from neon, and it keeps giving me an error that there's one file provided by kio-extras
[21:23] <MangaKaDenza> /opt/project-neon5/share/kservices5/filenamesearch.protocol
[21:23] <MangaKaDenza> and I cant remove kio-extras
[21:24] <MangaKaDenza> pls help
[21:42] <TheFakeazneD525> how to install kde-baseapps (kf5) in Trusty
[21:48] <stanislav> plasma 5 is very cool!