[03:06] what is the "-customized" for? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:43] dpm: ping [07:43] dpm: do you want me to fix the uriHandler? # https://code.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/uriHandler/+merge/239961 [07:49] morning penk_, yeah, that'd be awesome. I put it on a team branch in case anyone needed to modify Riccardo's original branch [07:50] dpm: alright === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === karni is now known as karni-brb === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-afk [09:21] nik90: you had a click package floating around I have a little time if you still need people to look at it [09:22] nik90: if you do can I have the link again please [09:30] penk_, ping [09:31] rpadovani: pong [09:31] penk_, about https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/uriHandler/revision/290, you cannot put the witch in onOpened, because could be called before the connection to the evernote server is set [09:31] rpadovani: I understand you want to make sure evernote is connected when handling uri === karni-brb is now known as karni [09:32] rpadovani: but, the onIsConnectedChanged happens before onOpened, commands is always undefined [09:33] penk_, you have a point. I'll think a solution to both cases this afternoon, thanks for rising up [09:33] rpadovani: and, if it's connected, and stay connected, next onOpened commands won't be handled, since there's no isConnected change.. === rmescandon-afk is now known as rmescandon [09:33] rpadovani: if there's a better way to handle this, please advice :D [09:34] rpadovani: I'll be EOD soon [09:34] penk_, sorry, just landed from US, not so wake up to think to a solution right now :-) I'll ping you tomorrow morning, is ok? [09:35] rpadovani: no hurry, take your time [09:36] Good morning all; happy Checklist Day! :-D [10:06] davmor2: hey, here's the click pakcage link https://www.dropbox.com/s/ur1wgkwpxbaua8i/com.ubuntu.clock_3.2.83_armhf.click?dl=0 [10:06] davmor2: and the MP https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/implement-location-finding/+merge/231793 which has the descriptions of what to test === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:08] nik90: I'll have a look for you in a minute :) [10:09] davmor2: yay thnx [10:53] nik90, do you know about the clock app test failures? [10:53] brendand: I have seen some flaky test failures during jenkins failures, but nothing concrete [10:54] brendand: is that what you are seeing as well? [10:54] s/jenkins failures/jenkins merges [10:55] nik90, on the dashboard -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745502/ [10:55] brendand: yup that's the issue that I was seeing as well [10:56] brendand: is this consistent failures? [10:56] nik90, it seems to be consistent here [10:57] brendand: recently there was a change made in the jenkins environment where it required a wm to be installed in the xvfb environment to make clock tests pass. Does the QA dashboard setup also do it when running the tests? [10:57] nik90, failing in the same way for the past 30 images or so [10:58] nik90, no they run on device [10:58] oh [11:00] nik90, i'm going to have a closer look now [11:00] nik90, do you have a mako to reproduce it on? [11:00] brendand: ClockPage.isReady failed: True != dbus.Boolean(False, variant_level=1) , this variable isReady will only be set to true, if the clock app gets input focus. [11:00] I haven't run it on mako yet, let me try [11:01] I usually run the test suite on my desktop [11:03] nik90, i have a feeling i know what this could be [11:04] nik90, there is a focus bug triggered if you use passphrase security [11:04] ah, yeah that could potentially cause the failure [11:05] nik90, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1373985 [11:05] Ubuntu bug 1373985 in maliit-framework (Ubuntu) "foreground app doesn't get activated after we leave the lock screen" [Undecided,In progress] [11:05] nik90, it seems ci are using that during smoke testing [11:06] nik90, so clock app will never get focus [11:06] nik90, or might not in most cases [11:06] nik90, i'll see if they can change that [11:07] brendand: hmm, locally 4 out of 5 tests passed on my mako [11:08] 1 failed due to the focus issue, but I would say its more flaky.. [11:09] nik90, no it's not flaky :) [11:09] nik90, flaky implies you don't know why it's failing [11:09] nik90, i do know [11:10] brendand: but that's the things, I expect 3 tests to fail due to the focus issue, but for me on my mako only 1 failed [11:10] the other 2 passed [11:10] nik90, if you refocus the dash it goes away [11:10] ah that could be it [11:21] brendand: in the qa dashboard, which channel should I be looking at? touch_stable? [11:21] nik90, yeah [11:24] nik90: hmmm if clock is using location should it not trigger the trust-store to ask for permission to use location service? [11:26] nik90: also is there an option to add seconds to the digital view? [11:30] davmor2, not necessarily. camera-app stopped doing that, on purpose [11:30] davmor2, maybe nik90 copied Kaleo's code to do that [11:30] although camera-app might be special === _salem is now known as salem_ === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon-afk [11:53] elopio: please review this one https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/pilotTracing/+merge/239575 [11:57] nik90: on a plus side it correctly locates me in Wolverhampton [11:58] nik90: however I must travel to wyre piddle now and see if it guesses where I am then :) [12:14] t1mp, hey.. quick question, if a TextArea is set as read-only should you still be able to click hyperlinks and get the linkActivated signal? [12:15] zsombi: ^ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === rmescandon-afk is now known as rmescandon [12:33] Hey, is jenkins paused? i haven't seen trigger-ci-job run for 19hrs? [12:34] fginther: ^ [12:34] I know there was an overnight issue that the IS team were working on. dunno if that affected things. [12:35] ah probably that [12:39] popey, i hope your issue is as a result of a unity reset, otherwise i have no idea what is happening [12:46] ahayzen: i think you're probably right [12:47] lecture time o/ ..... popey, i may be a little late to the standup as i have an exam [12:52] davmor2: It should trigger the trust-store, I did not copy any code from the camera-app. It prompted me with the dialog when I ran it the first time [12:52] davmor2: but nice it know that it found your location correctly [12:55] davmor2: and no there is no option to add seconds to digital view. If you think it is important, file a bug report and I will take it up with the designer. [12:56] nik90: no it was more that it was there on analog view but not on digital [12:57] popey what is the IS team ? Islamic State Team ? [12:57] now now [12:57] !politics [12:57] Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you! [12:58] :P [12:58] The people who look after the computers we break. [12:58] ah okey :p [12:58] o/ akiva-thinkpad === karni is now known as karni-lunch [13:25] DanChapman: that's a good question... tbh, I 've never checked that behavior with TextArea ro TextEdit... Check how TExtEdit behaves, and if that behavior differs from TextArea, file a bug! [13:26] zsombi: ok i'll try out TextEdit and see if it differs. Thanks :-) [13:45] nik90: I did kind of smoke test with your mp and it works I will do more and will let you know [13:56] mzanetti: hi [13:57] mivoligo: hi [13:58] mzanetti: sorry I was silent recently but I had pretty bad week [13:58] mivoligo: no worries... I've been away too [13:59] sad to hear you had some bad times though.... [14:00] mzanetti: my daughter's bike has been stolen but I had hope in CCTV in the building [14:00] pff... /me doesn't believe in CCTV [14:00] mzanetti: here it's everywere [14:00] sure it is... but does it any good? [14:00] anyways [14:01] mzanetti: unfortunately turns out it has been broken since September [14:02] see... all it does is making good people feel uncomfy... I don't think anyone stealing a bike is dumb enough to smile into the camera [14:02] right [14:02] mihir: cool [14:02] davmor2: ah true [14:03] davmor2: not sure what the reasoning was to not show seconds in the digital view. [14:03] mzanetti: anyway, I'm working on the icon right now [14:03] cool :) [14:04] mzanetti: if I do it as an rectangle, will it be automatically clipped to Ubuntu shape on the phone? [14:05] mivoligo: yes, it will be on the phone. however, it won't be in some other places. so what I usually do is to make a rounded rect [14:06] mivoligo: just round corners a tiny bit [14:06] ok [14:08] mzanetti: are the sides clipped a bit as well or just the corners? [14:09] mivoligo: it'll also clip top/bottom a wee bit in the dash [14:09] as the aspect ratio isn't square [14:09] mzanetti: what sizes do we need? [14:10] you mean in pixels or in aspect ratio? [14:10] pixels [14:10] svg :P I'll export then various stuff when uploading to the store [14:11] I know but I wonder what's the minimal used size [14:11] I think atm its 256x256 but it did already change once [14:11] minimal used size kinda depends on the user settings/display pixel density etc [14:12] mzanetti: cos I'm doing it rather complicated :D [14:12] so the store wants me to upload a 256x256 pixel image at least atm [14:12] but again, what's displayed at the user's screen might differ significantly [14:13] mzanetti: ok, do you know what size is on the phone? [14:14] 7.5x8 grid units in the dash, 6.8x7 grid units in the launcher [14:14] or something along those [14:14] on a nexus 4 there's 16 pixels per grid units atm [14:14] iirc [14:15] I think if you use 256x256 pixels as base size we're good. [14:15] just make sure to not put essential details within a 10 pixel border to the top/bottom [14:16] ok === karni-lunch is now known as karni [14:37] zbenjamin: ping [14:57] kalikiana: will do. [15:01] kalikiana: for now, the toolkit deb is python 2 and 3. [15:01] so [15:01] maybe you should also add python-autopilot-trace [15:05] elopio: we run it with python3 [15:06] afair we don't want to install everything twice [15:06] kalikiana: yes, but there are aa couple of projects that still use py2 and it would be useful for them. [15:06] we are about to remove the py2 everywhere [15:06] hmmmm [15:06] we are about to remove the py2 everywhere [15:06] so I'm not sure if it might be worth it. [15:07] mhall119: pong [15:07] elopio: idea, I can try the | magic [15:08] kalikiana: not sure how that would help [15:08] elopio: we do that for qt where the packages in the latest release were renamed [15:08] qml-blabla [15:08] kalikiana: but how would you tell when you need the 2 or the 3 version? [15:09] so it's like qml-module-dragon | qtdeclarative-dragon-plugin [15:09] hmmmm [15:10] I guess it's not quite the same as you can have both py2 and 3 [15:10] unlike old and new qt [15:10] kalikiana: also installing the py2 version won't hurt a lot, as we are already installing the 2 versions for a bunch of projects. But also not installing it wouldn't be bad, as the py2 projects will be updated and anyway they have always run without trace. [15:11] kalikiana: so do whatever feels good for you. The change looks correct. [15:11] elopio: I'm pushing a rev adding the py2 [15:11] should be there now [15:11] kalikiana: ok. [15:12] kalikiana: +1. Thanks. [17:18] ahayzen, popey, sorry about the jenkins outage, I got to it right before your ping (then wen to have breakfast) [17:19] thanks === mpt__ is now known as mpt [17:25] hi ahayzen how was the exam? [17:25] popey, easy got 100% \o/ [17:25] \o/ [17:25] popey, i did just have the same bug as you on the bus back... unity8 exploded while playing music and now the app cannot launch [17:25] popey: any news regarding pioneer tshirt? [17:26] snizzo: poke mhall119 [17:27] ahayzen: right, i believe there's a silo (13) currently under test for unity8 crashes [17:27] popey, ah good its been so unstable recently [17:27] popey: ok, will do [17:27] and we're aiming to get an image out the door over the next day or so to give to customer on monday [17:27] yeah [17:29] ahayzen: 17:18:52 < fginther> ahayzen, popey, sorry about the jenkins outage, I got to it right before your ping (then wen to have breakfast) [17:30] popey, i see things have landed so all good :) [17:30] yeah [17:31] did you see my bug about two albums have the same name? [17:31] ah victor replied [17:32] popey, yeah its just us setting the wrong thing IIRC artist vs album vs albumArtist [17:32] got it [17:32] good good. [17:32] Is there anything outstanding from jouni that you need? [17:32] popey, hopefully we can fix [17:33] popey, yeah all of the work items left for him + any walkthrough designs (lower priority than work items) [17:33] * popey pings him [17:34] he's unavailable, so we need to mail him. [17:34] I'll do that in a moment. [17:35] cool there are still some things we need to improve [17:35] eg slow thumbnailing on CardView ... may result in a rewrite of the CardView :/ [17:35] i notice that it loads the thumbnails slowly, yes. [17:35] can we load the ones on screen first? [17:35] seems to load all of them? even off-screen ones? [17:36] popey, yep limitation of the cardview at the moment [17:37] ok [17:37] popey, Kaleo started looking at building a more intelligent CardView...but it is really tricky..i've had a few ideas to attempt to speed things up but not sure what the overhead is [17:37] do we have a bug tracking it? [17:37] * popey can create one if not [17:37] don't think so [17:37] * popey does that [17:38] popey, basically the cardview is always fully loaded...offscreen items aren't destroyed and recreated [17:38] popey, which then has the affect of slowing the thumbnailer...and sort of second annoyance is that the thumbnailer starts rendering from the bottom lol [17:38] haha [17:38] brilliant [17:39] exactly [17:39] bug 1387816 [17:39] bug 1387816 in Ubuntu Music App "Card view can be slow to load thumbnails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387816 [17:39] if it started from the top it probably wouldn't be as bad...but still bad [17:39] set medium for now [17:39] yeah. [17:39] cool it is basically top of my list :P [17:40] popey, but because of the way the cards are staggered it is really difficult to get it right and you can't then use the normal things like GridView [17:41] right [17:42] ahayzen: shall we crank a new click later today, or tomorrow morning? [17:42] popey, has anything changed? [17:42] not much, wondered if you were planning on landing anything? ☻ [17:43] popey, nothing has changed since the last click :) ... erm well i assume either me of victor will attempt to fix that artist/album issue and then any other bugs that people think of? [17:43] Ok. [17:44] popey, i'll let you know if we need one doing :) [17:44] Ok, magic. [17:44] Nice to see rick posting about it [17:44] Anything else to discuss? [17:44] I'll mail jouni in a bit. [17:44] yeah really cool seeing people using it and the general positive responses :) [17:45] Totally! [17:45] Makes it worthwhile. [17:45] popey, don't think there is anything else we just need it to land aha [17:45] heh [17:45] Ok, have a good evening! [17:45] * popey goes to make food. [17:45] popey, you too o/ [17:45] o/ [17:52] * balloons waves into the nether [17:53] balloons, o/ [17:55] howdy ahayzen, time has flown by.. too much going on.. [17:56] balloons, ...do i dear mention the chaos of music-app ci ? ... [17:56] * ahayzen hides [17:57] balloons, as in on device... on desktop is fine [17:57] ahayzen, well I was kind of asking for news like that; I've been out of the loop and it's time to return [17:57] balloons, same :) [17:58] balloons, did you say there was a new way of mocking WIP? [18:03] ahayzen, there is, follow along on the bug report [18:04] balloons, so do we not bother attempting to fix the current mess and work towards the new solution? ... and which bug number? [18:16] ahayzen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-app-launch/+bug/1376423 [18:16] Ubuntu bug 1376423 in Ubuntu Application Launcher "Provide script to set up a temporary user session" [Undecided,New] [18:16] ahayzen, on the current mess, I would say best effort. I've been removing the stuff we put in where possible [18:16] music is a bit tougher as it really needs a clean env [18:16] yeah it does [18:43] balloons: were you able to look at kunal's MR for Jenkins failure ? === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [18:45] hey mihir I'm trying to catch back up, I just got back :-) [18:45] ahh no issues :D [18:45] no I haven't looked at it since we left dc. [18:45] when you get some free time :) [18:45] even I haven't got much time to work ,will catch up in weekend. [18:45] had to finish office backlog :) [18:45] indeed [19:06] popey: what about a "nearby" scope? [19:06] * balloons pokes popey to update topic [19:10] ybon: i think I've already seen one of those being worked on... [19:11] yeah, thats also not very innovative ... [19:11] do a "far away" scope instead !! [19:11] everyone has a nearby one === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-app-devel to: http://developer.ubuntu.com | App development on Ubuntu: how to do it & how to make it better | Make scopes! http://developer.ubuntu.com/2014/10/scope-development-competition | --allow-untrusted [19:11] balloons: better? [19:11] * balloons pokes popey again, but ever so slighty harder .. err, wait yep, that's it [19:13] ajalkane, hi! How are you? I need some info about ubuntu-filemanager-app. Ping me when you have some time [19:16] ah, is there already one in the store? [19:38] mihir, nik90 it's finally happened! http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~autopilot/autopilot/trunk/revision/518 [20:36] sverzegnassi: howdy, what info do you need? [20:38] ajalkane, hey! I have some questions about contenthub supports on ubuntu-filemanager-app [20:38] Sure [20:38] I've read the discussions on Bug #1315989, and ATM i've to "workaround" this situation [20:38] bug 1315989 in Ubuntu File Manager App "[New Feature] add content-hub API" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1315989 [20:39] since i need to open pdf files from file manager, and i need to choose ContentType.Pictures to open a document [20:40] sverzegnassi: right... so at the moment File Manager can only be used to select pictures from the file system [20:41] But that should be easy to change. Basically File Manager should be possible to use for any kind of ContentType [20:41] i know, the funny thing is that it can be used to open any type of file. are there some news after that bugfixing? [20:42] Basically FileManager registers itself as a possible source for "Pictures". But actually you can select any type of file using it, as long as the application requesting the file asks for ContentType.Picture [20:43] Last time I heard there is not coming any support for "Any" file type [20:44] The best I can do, as I've understood, is to add all ContentHub ContentTypes to FileManager. [20:44] ATM we have "All" file type but, by doing so, docviewer-app can also read contacts [20:44] Vice versa, if u add support for ContentType.All in filemanager, the app will be available also in applications that requires a "contact" type [20:45] If I've understood correctly you can't register your application to be a "Source" for "All" file types. You can perhaps ask with your application for "All" file types. But it's been many months since I last talked about this with the people doing this [20:46] Basically you should be able to use FileManager to select "contact" types. They are for example "*.vcf" files [20:46] Docviewer should ask for "Document" types, and perhaps "Pictures" [20:47] Then it would get FileManager as one possible source, and perhaps Gallery [20:47] Yes, but seems that it is not possible to ask two type at the same time [20:47] types* [20:48] ah right... that's true in fact. Well the pictures choise is a bit silly for docviewer anyway? [20:48] These are the screenshots from the app: http://imgur.com/uG4nDj9,6aHGp4X,RR3K1YY,NMnk8eL#1 [20:48] Althought that's a good point, why should an application not be allowed to select different kinds of content types [20:48] As you can see, no Documents peer available. [20:49] Yeah, that's the point. the actual way it manages files seems to be not so flexible [20:50] yep, I left FileManager's Content-Hub support in a bit "unfinished" state as I was waiting if Any file type could be supported [20:50] I can try and add a support for Documents etc. to FileManager now and we'll see if it works [20:51] it would be nice! I think I'll try to workaround this adding just "pictures" type. I hope there is no application that exports document type [20:58] I think there's none yet, at least in core. I'll make a branch now of FileManager exporting documents and maybe you can try if it works then. [21:02] Great! Thank you! If you need, I'm available for any help [21:07] sverzegnassi: try this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ajalkane/ubuntu-filemanager-app/content-hub-all-sources [21:08] after installing the click package, you probably need to run this command on device: [21:08] /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/content-hub/content-hub-peer-hook [21:09] ok [21:09] You can make sure that FileManager has been registered as source with: [21:09] gsettings list-recursively | grep content.hub.source.documents [21:09] If it lists filemanager you should be good [21:10] ajalkane, howdy! did you get help with autopilot tests? I've been away since dc so just following up [21:12] balloons: I did get the autopilot tests working, but I had to disable one that would need the bottom edge page to be brought up [21:12] so that's one thing that would need to be done... pulling up the Places from bottom edge and doing those two tests [21:12] ajalkane, that should be a simple conversion to call the header instead [21:12] it's not header, it's bottom edge pull up [21:12] ohh, sorry I misunderstood. you made it bottom edge [21:12] well, still, should be quite doable :-) [21:13] ajalkane, and that was related to my bug report about inputting a place right? [21:13] I took a look at clock application which has similar, so it's doable... just haven't had time to wrap my head around it yet [21:13] balloons: well it will be related to that, but first have to get the existing tests working :) [21:14] balloons: this is the current one that has to be solved before tackling the Places' text input field that we talked about in sprint: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1386850 [21:14] Ubuntu bug 1386850 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Places autopilot test must be redone" [High,Confirmed] [21:16] ajalkane, awesome there is a bug [21:16] I'm really trying harder to file bugs for things I know I can't immediately solve :P [21:17] oh yeah and what we talked about is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1385364 [21:17] Ubuntu bug 1385364 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Autopilot test for keyboard obscuring textfield" [Undecided,New] [21:22] ajalkane, it works! ( http://imgur.com/VyYf6UH,XpVGMEQ,WCJSuBq,n5P5oEF#2 ) [21:23] sverzegnassi: great! When you have a branch working with your content-hub changes to get a document into docviewer, let me know. I think it's best I branch from that and re-do my changes on top of that to get exporting into docviewer working from FileManager (and other apps) [21:24] it would be nice to have some filters on file extensions, in FolderListModel, if it's possible to get the required content type from content hub [21:25] Sure! I think to push something on LP tomorrow, since I still have to finish some minor changes [21:25] I know :(. It's something that must be worked in future. The requesting application can't, unfortunately, specify them. So FileManager will have to do some guesses. But that's something for the future. [21:26] That's sad! Hope to see it in future! :-) [21:27] I'm gonna fix also this bug #1387026 [21:27] bug 1387026 in Ubuntu Document Viewer App "Register as a Content Hub source for loading documents " [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387026 [21:28] alright, that's great! I did some work on that already but it wasn't finished. It'd be nice to be able to open pdfs and txt files from FileManager (and other apps) [21:31] Absolutely! I've seen there's already supports for this in filemanager. I want to see it working in docviewer-app ASAP! [21:34] Cool [21:37] ajalkane, thank you for your help! I'll let you know when I'll push the branch on LP (tomorrow, I suppose). Cya, good night! [21:38] good night sverzegnassi! === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:18] akiva-thinkpad, o/ [23:37] * ahoneybun flashes his N4 with Ubuntu again [23:39] mhall119: any news on the shirts? [23:46] yay I have almost 30 users! [23:49] akiva-thinkpad: ping