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| alo21 | hi, can someone give me some advice on how find a bug to fix once I chose a package, please? | 19:04 |
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| Noskcaj | alo21, sure | 19:05 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: thanks :) | 19:05 |
| Noskcaj | There are three bug trackers that affect ubuntu. bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGE bugs.debian.org and whatever upstream's bug tracker is | 19:07 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: ok...but some bugs are related to old version of software, or for older version of ubuntu....should I fix them (if I want)? | 19:16 |
| Noskcaj | If they still exist (try to work on bugs you can reproduce), they still need fixing | 19:16 |
| Noskcaj | If you can't reproduce it and it's only reported in non-supported versions of ubuntu, mark it incomplete and say someone needs to reproduce it in a supported release | 19:17 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: I found I bug which I am interested in...I read all comments, and now I would like to work on it... | 19:29 |
| Noskcaj | ... | 19:29 |
| alo21 | but, how can I run a program in debug mode (like transmission)? | 19:29 |
| Noskcaj | If you're looking at transmission, a good way to start would be merging the latest version from debian | 19:30 |
| Noskcaj | but for running it in debug, i'd just google how to | 19:31 |
| Noskcaj | https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EnvironmentVariables | 19:33 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: Is therer a page where are listed all packaged to be synced or eventually marged? | 19:34 |
| alo21 | there* | 19:34 |
| Noskcaj | merges.ubuntu.com | 19:35 |
| Noskcaj | universe.html main.html multiverse.html | 19:35 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: I read the changelog of transmission on debian, and how can I see if worth it? | 19:43 |
| Noskcaj | The "new upstream release" line means there's new stuff, also "Fixes build with newer miniupnpc" means that it needs merging soon since that version of miniupnpc is in vivid-proposed | 19:45 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: where did you read it? | 19:48 |
| Noskcaj | http://packages.qa.debian.org/transmission, then click changelog | 19:49 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: ok... How did you deduce the fact that a new version of miniupnpc is a vivid proposed? | 19:51 |
| Noskcaj | I went to launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miniupnpc | 19:51 |
| Noskcaj | Which also is linked from packages.qa.debian.org/miniupnpc | 19:52 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: in there a page (for newbie) that explain when a package worth to be merged? | 19:53 |
| Noskcaj | not really, if there's any changes that aren't in ubuntu and improve ubuntu in some way, merge it. http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/udd-merging.html explains most of how | 19:55 |
| Noskcaj | If the debian changes fix all the ubuntu ones, sync the package | 19:56 |
| alo21 | and how do I know if I packaged should be merged now or later? | 19:57 |
| Noskcaj | if it will work in ubuntu, and doesn't cause a transition of some sort, it should be merged as soon as someone has the time | 19:57 |
| alo21 | for example if there is a new upstream release on 30 nov 2014, and I merge a package tomorrow, I lost precious time because I should re-marge (or sync) again | 19:59 |
| Noskcaj | that is correct | 19:59 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: and how can I avoid to loose time due to this reason? | 20:00 |
| alo21 | is there a way to know future release date? | 20:01 |
| Noskcaj | Nothing you can do really | 20:01 |
| Noskcaj | Maybe checking the debian vcs (if there is one) to see if something is being worked on | 20:01 |
| alo21 | vcs strands for? | 20:02 |
| Noskcaj | version control system, e.g. bzr, subversion, git | 20:02 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: If someone is working on a bug in upstream, does not mean a new version is being released shortly, right? | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | not necessarily. | 20:05 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: great... so the next step is to contact the maintainer (who previously merged the package) and know if he will merge it or not, right-0 | 20:06 |
| alo21 | ?* | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 20:06 |
| Noskcaj | S have a look through https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html , and see if there's a package that you use | 20:07 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: thank a lot, and really sorry to annoying you :) | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | *so | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | alo21, it's fine, i've got nothing to do, and it's good to see new people here | 20:08 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: I checked minutes ago, and all related pages to know if is a worth-merge... | 20:08 |
| alo21 | then I preferred to ask here to do as best as I can | 20:09 |
| Noskcaj | i'll be back in 5 min. need breakfast | 20:11 |
| Noskcaj | alo21, Just to demonstrate, merge thunar with me | 20:23 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: I am so glad about your proposal :9 | 20:45 |
| alo21 | :)* | 20:45 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: guide me trough... :) | 20:46 |
| Noskcaj | First, go to packages.qa.debian.org/thunar , and check that we don't need to sync it | 20:47 |
| Noskcaj | Then check the changelogs to see if there's any changes we are going to drop | 20:48 |
| Noskcaj | clue: We don't drop any changes | 20:48 |
| Noskcaj | Next, go to the folder you want to work in, and run bzr branch lp:ubuntu/thunar && cd thunar && bzr merge lp:debian/thunar | 20:49 |
| Noskcaj | that gets the ubuntu version then merges the debian one | 20:50 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: How can I check if we do not need to sync? | 21:02 |
| Noskcaj | We can only sync if all the ubuntu changes are unneeded or fixed in debian | 21:02 |
| alo21 | so I have to compare debian and ubuntu changelog...right? | 21:04 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 21:05 |
| alo21 | we can't sync | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | yep | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | I have to go to school now. The links from earlier should be enough | 21:06 |
| alo21 | Noskcaj: ook... have a nice day :) | 21:06 |
| Noskcaj | I did the merge already at lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/thunar/merge if you need to see what changes were where. | 21:06 |
| Noskcaj | bye | 21:06 |
| alo21 | byee | 21:06 |
| alo21 | Permission denied (publickey). | 21:09 |
| alo21 | this is what happened when I try to download from bzr | 21:10 |
| alo21 | done | 21:18 |
| HFSPLUS | !OPS | HEY RWW WISDOM CRIES OUT FOR YOU TO REPENT BUT YOU DONT WANT TO LISTEN(PROVERBS 1:20-30) | 21:31 |
| HFSPLUS | rww, WISDOM CRIES OUT FOR MEN TO REPENT BUT THEY DONT WANT TO LISTEN | 21:33 |
| alo21 | how do I build with pbuilder? I downloaded the source with bzr | 22:16 |
| alo21 | ? | 22:16 |
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