[00:22] <FilthyMacNasty> I think I;ll eat a grenade now, just got done imaging 15 dells
[05:25] <Sachiru> Query: For some reason, sudo apt-fast autoremove does NOT remove old kernel headers from my machine. Why is this?
[06:27] <maven> Need help, planning to setup small business datacenter.
[06:30] <maven> Need help any body there?
[07:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:44] <hariom> I am facing issue in playing a sound file: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F
[10:44] <hariom> Can anybody help?
[10:44] <hariom> Using Ubuntu Lucid
[10:45] <lordievader> hariom: What does 'aplay -l' return?
[10:45] <lordievader> !paste
[10:46] <hariom> lordievader: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[10:46] <lordievader> There you go ;)
[10:48] <hariom> lordievader: but did you see this: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F
[10:48] <lordievader> hariom: Yes, but alsa has not found any sound card. And thus it is unable to play any sound file.
[10:50] <hariom> lordievader: yea. This is a server without GUI. I just now got few files uploaded by a user and need to listen those files before reply. Can't transfer to other system. I have installed alsa-utils
[10:50] <lordievader> hariom: Gui or not does not matter. Alsa doesn't see the soundcard.
[10:51] <hariom> lordievader: How to set it to find the soundcard?
[10:52] <hariom> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745476/
[10:55] <Andy-311> what is "cat /proc/asound/modules" returning?
[10:58] <hariom> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745543/
[10:58] <lordievader> hariom: Reload alsa, see if that helps.
[11:03] <hariom> lorddievader: tried: "sudo alsa reload" and also tried rebooting but aplay -l still says no sound card found
[11:16] <lordievader> hariom: Hmm, I'm not sure how to force alsa to detect a sound card.
[11:16] <hariom> ok
[11:16] <lordievader> hariom: Does reloading show errors by the way?
[11:18] <hariom> lordievader: no errors. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745695/
[13:24] <fridaynext> can drives spin down to idle mode if I'm connected via SMB (not reading/writing, though)?
[14:58] <jrwren_> smoser: ping
[15:06] <gchristensen> Hi, I'm looking to have upstart start a job when cloud init has finished running my cloudconfig specifications. it looks ilke over time (for natty and maverick etc) the event has changed. anyone familiar with what upstart event to `start on stopped cloud_something_here`?
[15:08] <smoser> jrwren_, whats up?
[15:09] <smoser> gchristensen, well, natty and maverick are not supported
[15:09] <smoser> so, they'ure kind of not terribly important.
[15:10] <gchristensen> sorry for the confusion, smoser, I'm running on 14.04, but I can't find any information about what the event is for 14.04. given that it has changed over time, it makes it fairly hard to trust any of the posts on the internet about what it might be
[15:11] <smoser> precise and trusty should be 'start on stopped cloud-init-final'
[15:11] <gchristensen> ah fantastic, thank you so much smoser
[15:11] <smoser> so other than lucid, that covers all supported releases.
[15:11] <jrwren_> smoser: saw your name on juju-core deb.I'm wondering where the source is for that.
[15:11] <gchristensen> excellent
[15:12] <jrwren_> smoser: I can apt-get source and learn how it is packaged, but I'd like to know how the orig tarball is built too.
[15:12] <smoser> jrwren_, the juju core packaging ?
[15:12] <gchristensen> will there be any upstart support in future versions of ubuntu, or will we have to migrate to systemd to be able to deploy it?
[15:12] <smoser> well the packaging probably has a 'get-upstream-source' or something.
[15:12] <jrwren_> smoser: yes, source deb for juju-core.
[15:12] <smoser> that says how to do it. but really, you downoad it.
[15:12] <gchristensen> and will cloud-init-final fire if one of the steps in cloud-init failed (like my user script)
[15:13] <smoser> gchristensen, yeah. it should.
[15:14] <jrwren_> smoser: apt-get source grabs juju-core-1.20.10. When 1.20.11 comes out, how does the source deb get updated? manual?
[15:14] <smoser> jrwren_, yes. correct. manual.
[15:14] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/juju-core/vivid/files
[15:14] <gchristensen> excellent, thank you again smoser
[15:15] <smoser> that is ubuntu packaging. i believe sinzui does upstream packaging (which is very close to == ubuntu at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-qa/juju-release-tools/packaging-juju-core-default/files/head:/debian/ )
[15:15] <smoser> as to "how do i know if there is something new"
[15:15] <smoser> there is a 'watch' file in debian/
[15:15] <smoser> and 'uscan' will read that and search
[15:18] <jrwren_> smoser: Huge Thanks.  I'll ask sinzui about it too.
[16:45] <gchristensen> is there a log of upstart events which have triggered? I'm trying to debug why my service didn't start
[17:41] <hallyn> stgraber: i'm going to argue that if download ubuntu images stop setting up ubuntu user by default, then that can' treally happen until there is an option in trusty/utopic lxc-download.in to set a default user/pwd.  users will see that as a regression in functionality
[17:44] <hallyn> i didn't want to step on mwarfield's toes, but i had almost accepted the patchset moving password gorp into a lxc post-create task.  maybe i shouldve, bc i don't like where it's heading.  it's hacky and tack-ed on.
[17:44] <hallyn> templates should only be providing a 'set-password' hook, and lxc should be guiding the password setting and (if random) storing
[17:46] <stgraber> hallyn: so my current focus was on closing the security holes and no user, no root password and no sshd does that. But yeah, as with most such security fixes, that does cause a few regressions. My current hope is that most people use lxc-attach rather than lxc-console or ssh when dealing with local containers and that those who don't, setup public key auth ssh and don't use password auth anyway.
[17:46] <stgraber> but yes, having templates accept a set-password argument or something like that which lxc-download can call would work
[17:47] <hallyn> did you see teh patchset a few weeks ago by...  i forget his name.  after lxc calls the templates to create, it walked a user-provided list to call passwd in the containers (with the rootfs properly set up)
[17:48] <smoser> the change is more than just using lxc-attach or not.
[17:48] <smoser> it means that there is no user named 'ubuntu'. so:
[17:48] <hallyn> i dunno.  i don't have time to properly address it.  but i may have to serve warning that in jan/feb i may completely replace it if what comes in is too hacky.  bc mwarfield's "I already sent a patch so mine should be used" isn't really workable.
[17:48] <smoser> lxc-attach -n foo sudo -Hu ubuntu ls -l
[17:48] <smoser> will fail
[17:49] <hallyn> stgraber: waht about creating a ubuntu user with no password ?
[17:49] <smoser> or even:
[17:49] <smoser>  [ -d /home/ubuntu ]
[17:50] <stgraber> hallyn: that's I think an acceptable compromise for now
[17:50] <hallyn> smoser: i suppose we could argue that download template is only for playing around,
[17:50] <hallyn> and for any serious deployment you should use ubuntu-server.  but i don't like that.
[17:50] <hallyn> stgraber: my worry is that as the current stuff becomes settled everyone will have it engrained and we'll have to always support it
[17:50] <hallyn> oh well.  as i don't have time to work on it, i'll deal with the fallout
[17:51] <hallyn> stgraber: oh -= you meant the passwordless ubuntu user.  exxcellent
[17:51] <stgraber> right
[17:51] <hallyn> i think that's waht smoser needs
[17:51] <hallyn> cool - thanks
[17:52] <hallyn> i need a cup of coffee.  baim
[17:52] <stgraber> and for 1.2 we need to come up with a clear definition of what the templates need to do, have a standardized set of options and provide the hooks needed for the download template to be feature-equivalent with the regular templates
[17:52] <stgraber> and sure, that won't be a backward compatible change, but that's what needs to happen
[17:53] <hallyn> stgraber: what were you thinking for 1.2 timeframe?
[17:54] <stgraber> so my current plan is for 1.1 before EOY, 1.2 should be before next Plumbers (so probably August-ish) and that means we can then do 2.0 for February 2016 and ship that in the LTS
[17:54] <hallyn> maybe i'll look over the m-l threads and current code over the weekend
[17:54] <hallyn> that gives me two things to do in the air, keeping me nice and busy
[18:13] <JayJ> qman__: You there?
[19:10] <IanMalcolm> Hey guys. Should I be using upstart or systemd?
[19:10] <IanMalcolm> on a default 14.10 install
[19:11] <lordievader> IanMalcolm: By default Utopic uses upstart.
[19:12] <IanMalcolm> cool. Thanks
[19:24] <hallyn> for now that's the better support option.  as the cycle proceeds that may change
[19:34] <jptned> Anyone active here?
[19:35] <lordievader> jptned: Depends.
[19:37] <jptned> My postfix server doesn't work. :(
[19:38] <bekks> jptned: So talk to him seriously, and convince him to start working again, or get fired. :)
[19:38] <jptned> bekks: not that simple, I need him. :P
[19:38] <jptned> When I try to connect to my mailserver via Outlook 2013, I get the following error:
[19:39] <jptned> (it's actualy in Dutch, so it's not literaly)
[19:39] <jptned> Sending test email: This server doesn't support any verificationmethod which is supported by this client.
[19:40] <jptned> Connecting for incomming mail did work.
[19:41] <jptned> Am I alone? :(
[19:46] <lordievader> !patience | jptned
[19:47] <jptned> Sorry. :|
[19:47] <lordievader> jptned: There is no common ground between the server and the client. Any recent changes to the authentication methods on either the server or client?
[19:48] <jptned> Not sure if I understand you, but I portforwarded port 587 to local port 25 because my ISP blocked port 25.
[19:48] <jptned> It has never worked, btw.
[19:50] <lordievader> jptned: That sounds like it will never work. 587 is used for SSL traffic IIRC, so the client expects to communicate with SSL while the server expects plain SMTP.
[19:50] <qman__> jptned: 25 is for server to server, 587 is for mail submission
[19:50] <jptned> But 25 is the default for Postfix, right?
[19:50] <qman__> They are different and use different authentication
[19:51] <qman__> If your isp blocks 25, you will never get email from the rest of the internet
[19:51] <qman__> There is no way around that
[19:51] <jptned> Right.
[19:51] <jptned> How about sending, that should work without port 25?
[19:51] <qman__> 587 should be forwarded to 587
[19:51] <qman__> Yes
[19:52] <jptned> But why can't PHP send emails then?
[19:52] <qman__> Though your mail is likely to be caught as spam
[19:52] <jptned> Wait...
[19:52] <jptned> I changed my hostname a hour ago
[19:52] <jptned> Didn't check PHP yet, that works now. :-)
[19:54] <jptned> But there's absolutly no way around port 25?
[19:55] <qman__> Correct
[19:55] <qman__> Get a business account or a VPS or something
[19:56] <jptned> Too bad. :(
[20:09] <jptned> I found that my ISP has an Relayserver which, as they say, sends the e-mail back to the right port.
[20:10] <jptned> I set it up at my DNS provider
[20:15] <jptned> Still can't connect to my e-mail server with Outlook.
[20:19] <lordievader> jptned: Does the server see the requests from the client come in?
[20:19] <jptned> How do I test?
[20:20] <jptned> I've got port 587 now back linked to 587 local
[20:20] <jptned> 25 to 25
[20:21] <jptned> And I'd set up port 587 in postfix by uncommenting submission (like https://major.io/2007/07/04/enable-submission-port-587-in-postfix/)
[20:22] <jptned> Still same error...
[20:23] <jptned> This server doesn't support any verificationmethod which is supported by this client.
[20:23] <lordievader> jptned: tcpdump.
[20:23] <lordievader> jptned: Also see 'man tcpdump'
[20:23] <qman__> By default, only plain login methods are enabled, but require ssl/tls
[20:24] <jptned> qman, explain?
[20:24] <K4k> what's the proper way to set static IPs in 14.04? I've set up the interface in /etc/network/interfaces (also tried a file in interfaces.d) but I can't restart the network service and the old static IP still applies on reboot.
[20:24] <K4k> What am I missing?
[20:24] <lordievader> K4k: How did you set it up in /etc/networking/interfaces?
[20:24] <K4k> vim?
[20:25] <K4k> or is that not what you're asking?
[20:25] <K4k> The current static IP was set up during install
[20:26] <K4k> o...m...g, is network-manager running by default?
[20:26] <lordievader> K4k: I actually meant, could you pastebin your /etc/networking/interfaces...
[20:26] <lordievader> K4k: Network manager ignores interfaces that are configured in ^
[20:26] <K4k> oh, ok
[20:26] <K4k> what's the prefered pastbin for this chan?
[20:27] <qman__> restart networking hasn't worked in a long time, but ifdown and ifup do
[20:27] <K4k> qman__: AH! You've hit a point I meant to mention. If I run `ifdown eth0` I get "interface eth0 not configured"
[20:27] <K4k> but ifconfig clearly shows it up
[20:28] <jptned> lordievader: The server notices the attempt to connect: "21:24:27.369667 IP 192.168.2.24.submission [...]"
[20:28] <qman__> K4k: ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 down; ifup eth0
[20:29] <K4k> qman__: -_-"   ok, why did that work?
[20:29] <qman__> K4k: ifdown only works if the config in interfaces is what's configured now
[20:29] <K4k> ah
[20:30] <qman__> Or close enough at least
[20:30] <K4k> cool, reboot sets the correct IP now
[20:30] <K4k> just curious. When you set an IP during install, does that configure it in network manager?
[20:30] <jptned> qman__: what do you mean with 'only plain login methods are enabled, but require ssl/tls'?
[20:30] <lordievader> jptned: Check the logs for hints, or make a packet capture and try to debug the issue from there.
[20:30] <qman__> jptned: I mean exactly what I said
[20:31] <jptned> Guys, I'm an absolute noob in this stuff... I just don't understand. :-(
[20:32] <qman__> jptned: It only has plain login enabled, and will only allow plain login over a secured connection, via ssl or tls of some kind
[20:32] <lordievader> jptned: Perhaps you shouldn't start with a mail server. Mailservers are usually  pain to setup.
[20:33] <jptned> qman__: So I should select none at type of encryption in Outlook?
[20:33] <qman__> There should be connection encryption, but no login encryption
[20:33] <qman__> Ssl, tls, or starttls
[20:34] <jptned> lordievader: That's why I'm here. I've got my server working as webserver, and now I'd love to mail from te domains I host on that mailserver. ;)
[20:35] <jptned> qman__, this is the advanced window in Outlook, I guess these are the settings for the connection.
[20:35] <jptned> :
[20:35] <jptned> ... uploading ...
[20:35] <jptned> http://prntscr.com/51dyyy
[20:36] <jptned> I've got the encryption (versleuteling) set on Automatic (Automatisch)
[20:37] <jptned> I've checked the checkbox at the verification required
[20:37] <jptned> for SMTP
[20:37] <jptned> Not selected 'SPA required'...
[20:40] <blaaa> jptned: what do you want to do exactly?
[20:41] <jptned> I'm trying to make my email server work. Mailing from PHP works, connecting to POP3 with Outlook as well, but I can't connect tot SMTP with Outlook.
[20:42] <blaaa> ah, is see, you have set up postfix on the server
[20:42] <jptned> Emailserver is postfix
[20:42] <jptned> This is the error: This server doesn't support any verificationmethod which is supported by this client.
[20:42] <blaaa> and you connect to 587 submission
[20:43] <blaaa> can you telnet to the server?
[20:43] <blaaa> (on that port?)
[20:43] <jptned> I'm on windows, so that should be ping, i guess?
[20:43] <blaaa> windows might have telnet
[20:43] <jptned> i'll try
[20:44] <jptned> 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[20:44] <jptned> operable program or batch file.
[20:44] <blaaa> hmm, too bad probably installing telnet in optional in windows nowadays
[20:45] <jptned> http://windows.microsoft.com/nl-nl/windows/telnet-faq#1TC=windows-7
[20:45] <jptned> Found installation instructions. :P
[20:45] <jptned> One second.
[20:45] <blaaa> Apparently MS even has some instructions... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/153119
[20:46] <blaaa> except you need to telnet to 587 of course
[20:47] <Filthy> use putty for telnet
[20:47] <jptned> I've got Putty...
[20:47] <jptned> 220 <<my hostname>> ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[20:47] <blaaa> that might come in handy if you need to starttls anyway
[20:48] <jptned> I use putty to manage my server.
[20:48] <jptned> It's not in the room I work ;)
[20:49] <jptned> But I guess the server responds; '220 <<my hostname>> ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) '
[20:49] <blaaa> jptned: and what happens after you greet your postfix back: 'EHLO whatever'
[20:49] <jptned> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
[20:49] <jptned> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
[20:49] <jptned> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
[20:50] <Filthy> tell it EHLO for me
[20:50] <jptned> 502 5.5.2 Error: command not recognized
[20:52] <blaaa> jptnet: you use "EHLO ..." without the quotes?
[20:52] <jptned> That worked
[20:53] <blaaa> you now probably get some list of stuff, including STARTTLS, not including AUTH?
[20:53] <jptned> 250-<<my hostname>>
[20:53] <jptned> 250-PIPELINING
[20:53] <jptned> 250-SIZE 10240000
[20:53] <jptned> 250-VRFY
[20:53] <jptned> 250-ETRN
[20:53] <jptned> 250-STARTTLS
[20:53] <jptned> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[20:53] <jptned> 250-8BITMIME
[20:53] <jptned> 250 DSN
[20:54] <blaaa> jptned: sof far so good, you now would want to STARTTLS, to verify that works, and to be able to see what AUTH methods are supported
[20:54] <jptned> Just type STARTTLS?
[20:54] <blaaa> unfortunately I only ever do that with openssl...
[20:55] <blaaa> jptned: telnet will not be able to handle that, but maybe putty knows how to do it
[20:55] <blaaa> I won't know though
[20:55] <jptned> STARTTLS doesn't work
[20:56] <blaaa> after you started tls you should be able to EHLO again, this time the server should respond with some listing of possible AUTH methods
[20:57] <blaaa> jptned: have you tried 'versleutelde verbinding' TLS in you outlook client?
[20:58] <jptned> I guess... Wait..
[20:59] <jptned> Like this, I asume; http://prntscr.com/51eaam.
[20:59] <jptned> http://prntscr.com/51eaam
[21:00] <blaaa> jptned: yes, your postfix probably supports PLAIN and LOGIN authentication, which should be supported by outlook afaik, also outlook should support starttls
[21:00] <blaaa> afaik...
[21:00] <jptned> Same error; Sending test email: This server doesn't support any verification method which is supported by this client.
[21:02] <jptned> Found this online; http://www.harryrabbit.co.uk/electronics/tutorials/command%20line.html
[21:03] <jptned> auth login answered: 503 5.5.1 Error: authentication not enabled
[21:05] <blaaa> jptned: your postfix only supports AUTH after STARTTLS
[21:06] <jptned> My postfix, or everyones postfix? :p
[21:06] <blaaa> jptned: I believe some older versions of outlook (express?) had buggy SMTP support
[21:06] <jptned> I've got Outlook 2013, latest for Windows.
[21:06] <blaaa> jptned: yours, as it is apparently (probably) configured that way
[21:07] <blaaa> you don;t want auth over unencrypted connections anyway
[21:07] <blaaa> jptned: can you log in with openssl?
[21:07] <jptned> THis one: https://www.openssl.org/source/?
[21:07] <jptned> https://www.openssl.org/source/
[21:08] <blaaa> openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -connect <<yourpostfix>> 587
[21:08] <blaaa> just do it from the server itself maybe
[21:09] <blaaa> as we have already established you can connect from the client to the server on port 587 (right?)
[21:09] <jptned> When I do a tcpdump and connect with Outlook, it shows up.
[21:09] <jptned> openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -connect nederveen.ga 587
[21:09] <jptned> no port defined
[21:09] <jptned> usage: s_client args
[21:10] <blaaa> sorry nederveen.ga:587
[21:10] <blaaa> a colon in there
[21:11] <jptned> CONNECTED(00000003)
[21:11] <jptned> depth=0 CN = WebServer1
[21:11] <jptned> verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
[21:11] <jptned> verify return:1
[21:11] <jptned> depth=0 CN = WebServer1
[21:12] <jptned> Back
[21:12] <jptned> Kicked out
[21:12] <blaaa> jptnet: use sprunge.us or some other pastebin maybe
[21:12] <blaaa> to post the output
[21:12] <jptned> Yeah, thought of that after I pressed enter. ;P
[21:14] <jptned> http://pastebin.com/i749NrPw
[21:17] <blaaa> jptned: you can EHLO again, and see what authentication methods are advertised by postfix
[21:17] <jptned> EHLO with Telnet in Putty?
[21:18] <blaaa> jptned: I dont know what outlook does with self-signed certs by the way, have you added it to its trusted certificates. maybe it's a reason to refuse the cert
[21:18] <blaaa> jptned: no, just use the openssl connection you have opened
[21:18] <jptned> First time I tried to connect it asked if I wanted to accept it, I did.
[21:19] <blaaa> should avertise AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
[21:19] <jptned> 501 Syntax: EHLO hostname
[21:19] <jptned> 501 Syntax: EHLO hostname
[21:20] <blaaa> you have to type 'EHLO somestuff'
[21:21] <jptned> Pipelining, seize 10240000, vrfy, etrn, enhancedstatuscodes, 8bitmime, dns
[21:21] <jptned> dsn*
[21:21] <blaaa> jptned: so no AUTH?
[21:21] <jptned> Nope
[21:21] <blaaa> jptned: you have to look at your postfix config then, enable authentication
[21:23] <jptned> In main.cf or master.cf
[21:24] <blaaa> jptned: that should probably be in main.cf
[21:24] <jptned> http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailclients.html
[21:26] <jptned> It now askes for username and password.
[21:26] <jptned> Evereytime i click OK, it comes back...
[21:27] <Filthy> getting closer
[21:27] <jptned> Yup.
[21:27] <jptned> Where does it get It's authentication details?
[21:28] <Filthy> whered you tell it to look?
[21:28] <jptned> Didn't tell him...
[21:29] <jptned> I use VestaCP for my webhosting, in the control panel i can create mail accounts
[21:29] <jptned> No idea where it saves them. :P
[21:30] <Filthy> so why are you authenticating with postfix, just point at their smtp server and let it auth
[21:30] <blaaa> jptned: you create IMAP accounts with that? you might be able to use the IMAP server or LDAP...
[21:30] <blaaa> that's a good point filthy?
[21:31] <Filthy> thats ultimately where the auth goes down
[21:32] <jptned> Actualy, I don't know, but I do know logging into pop3 works with my entered details
[21:32] <jptned> At least that is wat Outlook sais...
[21:33] <Filthy> you may need to configure outlook to pop3 auth before smtp, check with your provider
[21:34] <blaaa> jptned: checking with the provider seems to be the best idea.
[21:34] <jptned> Wait, provider?
[21:34] <jptned> It's my mailserver, right?
[21:34] <Filthy> web provider
[21:34] <jptned> ISP?
[21:34] <blaaa> jptned: VestaCP?
[21:34] <jptned> Yes.
[21:34] <blaaa> jptned: who set up VestaCP?
[21:35] <jptned> I did, at least, kind of tried. :P
[21:35] <jptned> Web works.
[21:35] <Filthy> you enter your mail users on vestacp right?
[21:35] <jptned> Yup
[21:36] <Filthy> then thats where your (their) little part of the mailserver lives
[21:36] <jptned> And where a little part doesn't work?
[21:36] <blaaa> jptned: have you installed vestaCP?
[21:36] <jptned> Yes.
[21:37] <Filthy> you don't need a local smtp server they have one probably something like smtp.vestacp.com or somesuch
[21:37] <blaaa> do you know what it does?
[21:37] <jptned> It makes me able to host multiple websites / domains on one server...
[21:38] <jptned> Using a web based control panel
[21:38] <blaaa> jptned: yes, the question is what the control panel does to your server
[21:38] <blaaa> I suppose it sets up dovecot in some way
[21:38] <blaaa> maybe using LDAP users
[21:39] <blaaa> anyway, you should then be able to configure postfix to authenticate via dovecot
[21:39] <blaaa> use dovecot SASL
[21:39] <jptned> You know how?
[21:39] <jptned> http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/PostfixAndDovecotSASL
[21:39] <jptned> ?
[21:40] <blaaa> jptned: that might do it. I have not set that up in quite some time...
[21:40] <blaaa> the wiki is probably much better than I would be
[21:41] <blaaa> but the most important hing is you need to know what the VestaCP does
[21:41] <jptned> Not that clear what to edit, but I'll try
[21:41] <blaaa> I would advise against using web-based control panels if it's not clear what they do
[21:41] <jptned> I'm absolutely not home in Ubuntu or any Linux bases system, so I like it. :p
[21:42] <jptned> I guess it came with sendmail
[21:42] <blaaa> jptned: ther must be some POP3 server. most likely dovecot
[21:42] <Filthy> you want a turn key mailserver with multi domain support? google deeproot linux
[21:43] <blaaa> it needs to provide SASL, which then can be used by postfix
[21:44] <jptned> Error writing conf.d/10-master.conf: No such file or directory
[21:44] <jptned> :(
[21:44] <Filthy> you probably don't want your mail server in the same machine as web server anyway
[21:44] <blaaa> jptned: it might be /etc/dovecot/conf....
[21:44] <Filthy> or /etc/default/dovecot.conf
[21:45] <jptned> Filthy, I do. I only have one server, and use if for development and small hosting.
[21:45] <Filthy> buck up $50 and buy a cheapie used desktop
[21:46] <jptned> !include conf.d/*.conf
[21:46] <Filthy> download and install deeproot linux
[21:46] <Filthy> mailserver done
[21:46] <jptned> It should be possible on one device, right?
[21:46] <blaaa> yes it should be
[21:46] <Filthy> it can work, if traffic is low
[21:47] <jptned> It is
[21:47] <blaaa> jptned: have you checked /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-master.conf ?
[21:48] <jptned> I just pasted the code in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[21:53] <blaaa> jptned: !include conf.d/*.conf that means it includes the *.conf files in conf.d in ovecot.conf's directory
[21:53] <blaaa> so there should be a conf.d subdirectory
[21:53] <blaaa> probably including 10-master.conf
[21:54] <jptned> There is, but somehow I can't edit it.
[21:54] <blaaa> containing i mean
[21:54] <jptned> Ok, that didnt work...
[21:54] <jptned> POP3 is down as well.
[21:54] <jptned> I'm going to bed.
[21:54] <jptned> 22:54 here.
[21:54] <jptned> 6:30 up tomorrow
[21:55] <jptned> Thanks for your help!
[21:55] <jptned> Maybe I'll see you around.