Saviq | Wellark, ;) | 00:00 |
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Wellark | I kinda have the feeling that we won't have those tablets in december.. | 00:01 |
Saviq | Wellark, it doesn't say *we* will release it though | 00:01 |
Wellark | Saviq: I meant "we" as a community | 00:02 |
Saviq | Wellark, if someone actually wants (as the article states) to buy some tablets and put UT on it... as long as they don't call it Ubuntu, they're fine | 00:02 |
Wellark | yeah | 00:03 |
cwayne | looks like they want to call it Ubuntu Touch though | 00:04 |
popey | Saviq_: Wellark i spoke to them, they say they've been in contact with legal... | 00:34 |
popey | I did point out the Tablet UI aint done yet and wished them luck. | 00:34 |
pngo_ | I'm trying to send a txt msg, and I get SIM Card is locked, but SIM PIN is Off | 00:38 |
pngo_ | is this a bug? | 00:39 |
pngo_ | why I can send mms txt but can not receive it? | 04:29 |
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pngo_ | how can I enable read-write mode. I tried 'phablet-config writable-image' but I get 'PING lunchpad.net... 56(84) bytes of data | 05:07 |
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pitti | alecu, dobey: unity-scope-click now fails to build: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-unity-scope-click/6/? | 08:26 |
pitti | looks like the new ubuntu-download-manager breaks it (see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ubuntu-download-manager) | 08:28 |
pitti | sil2100: ^ FYI | 08:28 |
sil2100 | pitti: thanks for the info! | 08:34 |
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JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Checklist Day! :-D | 09:36 |
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seb128 | does anyone know how to look if the phone received a sms and failed to get through the services/UI, or if it didn't receive it? | 10:28 |
seb128 | I'm 2 phones, an android and a touch one, send from touch to android works, back doesn't work ... the touch phone do receive messages from other people fine though | 10:28 |
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pngo_ | how can I enable read-write mode. I've tried 'phablet-config writable-image' but I get 'PING lunchpad.net. (91.189.89.223) 56(84) bytes of data | 12:11 |
ogra_ | pngo_, thats fine, it should eboot after that and be writable | 12:13 |
ogra_ | *reboot | 12:13 |
pngo_ | does not reboot | 12:13 |
pngo_ | also I can send mms txt but can not receive | 12:14 |
sergiusens | seb128: /var/log/syslog and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8746254/ (that is the monitor output of sending an sms to myself) | 12:14 |
ogra_ | pngo_, you can make the image writable manually ... adb shell ... then sudo touch /userdata/.writable_image ... ctrl-D ... adb reboot | 12:17 |
pngo_ | another think that I found if I get an image from a devel channel, my sim card id locked, but if I get devel-proposed all works. | 12:18 |
ogra_ | note that you lose the ability for any supported upgrade path though | 12:18 |
ogra_ | yes, thats a known but in the last promoted utopic image ... all focus is on rtm currently | 12:18 |
ogra_ | s/but/bug/ | 12:18 |
sergiusens | stgraber ogra_ is devel (alias to ubuntu-touch/utopic) going to change to vivid? (same for -proposed) | 12:19 |
pngo_ | it is rtm | 12:19 |
ogra_ | sil2100, asac ^^^^ we should consider to promote the last utopic-proposed build into utopic ... so people dont get that issue | 12:19 |
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ogra_ | sergiusens, it will, once we have something in vivid | 12:19 |
ogra_ | i think devel-proposed points to it already if i understood slangasek right | 12:20 |
sergiusens | ogra_: well vivid-proposed would be good to set already; it is after all the development series ;-) | 12:20 |
ogra_ | right | 12:20 |
ogra_ | and i think that happened | 12:20 |
ogra_ | just not vivid yet because the channel is empty | 12:20 |
pngo_ | I tried both: ...rtm/devel and rtm/devel-proposed | 12:21 |
ogra_ | we can only switch the alias once there is something in it | 12:21 |
sergiusens | ogra_: devel-proposed (alias to ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed) | 12:21 |
ogra_ | oh, ok | 12:21 |
ogra_ | then he was perhaps waiting for it to arrive ... i'll poke him later once he is up | 12:21 |
ogra_ | (i went offline before it arrived on s-i.u.c) | 12:22 |
seb128 | sergiusens, thanks | 12:29 |
sergiusens | np | 12:30 |
pngo_ | FYI even when I enabled read-write mode, I always were getting upgrades when I went to system settings. Not sure if this is current now when I'm on rtm channel | 12:31 |
ogra_ | pngo_, yes, you will get upgrades but it isnt supported :) | 12:31 |
ogra_ | expect it to break stuff | 12:32 |
ogra_ | the upgrader doesnt stop people from shooting themselves in the foot ;) | 12:32 |
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asac | ogra_: get what issue? | 12:37 |
asac | shouldnt we just move alias of devel to vidid now? | 12:37 |
* asac is still waiting for the upgrade to first vidi on mako | 12:38 | |
ogra_ | asac, we cant move aliases to empty channels | 12:38 |
ogra_ | we need a promotion first | 12:38 |
ogra_ | (well, we technically can move aliases anywhere we want ... but we shouldnt point to empty channels) | 12:39 |
sergiusens | asac: it can be done for devel-proposed though | 12:39 |
sergiusens | just need someone with the keys to do it | 12:39 |
ogra_ | asac, the issue was that SIM unlock was broken for mako in the last promoted images | 12:39 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, yes, and slangasek already announced he'd do that in his mail | 12:39 |
ogra_ | same issue though, we were waiting for imge #1 first | 12:40 |
pngo_ | I have another question, is there a way to install apps without login to ubuntu one account? this seems to me more like android/proprietary way of doing things. another words is there a command that I can use to install them? | 12:44 |
ogra_ | if you have a .click package you can indeed istall it via commandline ... but you need to use the --allow-unauthenticated switch for that to tell it to drop all security | 12:45 |
ogra_ | U1 has nothing to do with proprietary but with the fact that you want to make sure there is no malware coming down the drain :) | 12:46 |
sergiusens | ogra_: if the click was downloaded from the store; you don't need te --allow-... flag | 12:50 |
ogra_ | sergiusens, how do i download it via cmdline ? | 12:50 |
* ogra_ didnt know thats possible | 12:51 | |
sergiusens | ogra_: just like click-sync | 12:51 |
sergiusens | ogra_: sign the get call with the oauth cred | 12:51 |
ogra_ | hmm | 12:51 |
ogra_ | we should mangel that into a backup/restore script ;) | 12:52 |
ogra_ | *mangle | 12:52 |
cwayne | well then you still need a u1 account to get them in the first place :P | 12:54 |
ogra_ | cwayne, hmm, could that be backed up and restored via cmdline ? | 12:55 |
ogra_ | would be cool to have a script that gets you back to normal even after a --bootstrap | 12:56 |
Tassadar | vivid images! \o/ | 12:57 |
* Tassadar starts adding 'em to s-i.tasemnice.eu | 12:57 | |
ogra_ | heh | 13:00 |
Tassadar | does this mean utopic and utopic-proposed images are no longer built? | 13:00 |
ogra_ | Tassadar, dont expect them to be stable :) | 13:00 |
ogra_ | since last week, yeah | 13:00 |
Tassadar | cool, so I can remove them | 13:01 |
ogra_ | they would all be the same ... the archive is closed | 13:01 |
ogra_ | well, dont rush it | 13:01 |
ogra_ | devel will still point to utopic til the first promotion | 13:01 |
Tassadar | I'll leave 3 images instead of 10, to save space | 13:01 |
ogra_ | devel-proposed should be re-targeted to vivid-proposed later today | 13:01 |
pngo_ | sorry, it does not make sense to me that every time I want to install app I have to sign in to account. I thought that once app is in the channel/repository, it is trusted, and malware free. | 13:04 |
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pngo_ | and I free to install any app I want. this works on desktops. | 13:05 |
ogra_ | pngo_, you are free to do the same on your phone | 13:11 |
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ogra_ | via cmdline | 13:11 |
kenvandine | mzanetti, do you know when your unity8 branch for the launcher gsettings change will land? | 13:12 |
pngo_ | ogra_, so at terminal I type "click notes" | 13:12 |
pngo_ | ogra_, if I want to install notes | 13:13 |
ogra_ | no, you download the click somewhere ... adb push it and use pkcon install-local --allow-unauthenticated /path/to/click | 13:13 |
pngo_ | thank you | 13:13 |
mzanetti | Saviq: can you answer kenvandine's question? | 13:15 |
Saviq | kenvandine, today hopefully | 13:16 |
Saviq | mzanetti, basically, when you fix your index branch ;) | 13:16 |
mzanetti | Ran 1 test in 299.972s | 13:17 |
mzanetti | ... | 13:17 |
kenvandine | Saviq, will that landing also include the mterry's expose-lockscreen-passphrase branch? | 13:18 |
Saviq | kenvandine, yes | 13:18 |
* Tassadar is wondering if upgrade on devel-proposed (from version 299 to 1, because of utopic -> vivid) is gonna work okay | 13:18 | |
kenvandine | great | 13:18 |
kenvandine | that'll unblock a few of my landings :) | 13:18 |
ogra_ | Tassadar, i guess stgraber or barry should be able to tell | 13:19 |
sergiusens | Tassadar: ogra_ it's already been done for saucy->trusty in some way already | 13:20 |
barry | Tassadar: it will work if devel-proposed is a channel alias and the target channel changed. i haven't looked, but if the alias now points to a different channel, it should do an effective -b 0 update | 13:20 |
Tassadar | yeah, I think I already discussed this with somebody, but I don't remmeber the result :x | 13:20 |
Tassadar | oh, right, that was it | 13:20 |
ogra_ | barry, not yet ... waiting for slangasek to change the alis | 13:21 |
Tassadar | maybe I'll remember it for next version :D | 13:21 |
ogra_ | *alias | 13:21 |
barry | ogra_: ack | 13:21 |
barry | ogra_: is the window for landing to rtm still open for today? | 13:21 |
ogra_ | barry, i dont think so, ask sil2100 | 13:22 |
ogra_ | if you have a critical blocker you can surely ask pmcgowan or olli for approval though | 13:22 |
barry | ogra_: thx | 13:23 |
olli | barry, if you have something you want to land then I suggest adding to the wish list | 13:25 |
olli | barry, was that your q from ubuntu-ci-eng? | 13:25 |
barry | olli: it's on the wish list. this is s-i 2.5.1 for phased-updates. it's sitting in QA sign-off. not sure how/when to push this along to rtm | 13:26 |
ogra_ | barry, you dont ... (if it is an rtm silo) ... it is all in QAs hands now | 13:27 |
ogra_ | (and landing team for pressing "publish") | 13:27 |
barry | ogra_: okay then! | 13:27 |
barry | thx | 13:27 |
mpt | kemmko, I reported bug 1387656 | 13:28 |
ubot5 | bug 1387656 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Connect to hidden network…" incorrectly has page stack chevron >" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387656 | 13:28 |
sil2100 | barry: see announcement on -phone ;) | 13:30 |
* barry is still slogging through email | 13:30 | |
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dobey | pitti, sil2100: there's a silo for a sync to vivid, but i need to rebuild it and am having a bit of problem getting it rebuilt in the ppa | 13:47 |
cwayne | pitti: ping | 13:54 |
pitti | cwayne: hello | 14:01 |
cwayne | pitti: hiya, so I've been trying to run some autopilot tests with adt-run, but running into some issues | 14:03 |
cwayne | first is this one: https://pastebin.canonical.com/119623/ | 14:03 |
pitti | cwayne: oh, for sure; I spent some time on fixing most/all of these recently, so you really need 3.7 | 14:03 |
cwayne | should adt-run be calling pkcon install-local instead of click install | 14:03 |
cwayne | ah, let me check my version | 14:03 |
cwayne | 3.6 here, is 3.7 in a ppa somewhere? | 14:04 |
pitti | cwayne: right, that's bug 1384417; but it's largely moot now | 14:04 |
ubot5 | bug 1384417 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "Running adt-run without root installs the click for all users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384417 | 14:04 |
pitti | cwayne: I just uploaded it to Debian, so it's not yet in Ubuntu; but I can give you a .deb if you want to | 14:04 |
pitti | cwayne: for that you really need to give it your pin/password with -p | 14:05 |
cwayne | pitti: sure, ill try out a deb | 14:05 |
pitti | cwayne: since we dropped autopilot from the images, the test needs root privileges to reconfigure apparmor | 14:05 |
pitti | cwayne: the setup script tries "0000" and "phablet", if you use something else you need to specify it | 14:05 |
jgdx | bfiller, re bug 1374082 and your last comment: USS have no way of unlocking specific sims either! | 14:05 |
ubot5 | bug 1374082 in indicator-network (Ubuntu RTM) "no API to unlock a specific sim" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374082 | 14:05 |
cwayne | pitti: makes sense | 14:05 |
pitti | cwayne: http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/pool/main/a/autopkgtest/autopkgtest_3.7_all.deb | 14:06 |
pitti | cwayne: (will sync to vivid by tomorrow) | 14:06 |
cwayne | pitti: thanks | 14:06 |
pitti | cwayne: I'll still look at that bug to make it more obvious what the issue is | 14:06 |
jgdx | Wellark, your take on bug 1374082 ? | 14:06 |
cwayne | i may as well upgrade my desktop to vivid :P | 14:06 |
ubot5 | bug 1374082 in indicator-network (Ubuntu RTM) "no API to unlock a specific sim" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374082 | 14:06 |
pitti | cwayne: the deb should be fine on trusty and utopic too | 14:07 |
pitti | cwayne: anyway, I had some catch-up to do due to changed adb/unity behaviour and dropping autopilot | 14:07 |
cwayne | pitti: yeah, i figured | 14:07 |
cwayne | ah | 14:07 |
pitti | cwayne: so unfortunately utopic's version doesn't work :( | 14:07 |
jgdx | bfiller, but we can make a good guess, so I guess that something :) | 14:13 |
Wellark | jgdx: sorry on a meeting | 14:16 |
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jgdx | Wellark, ack | 14:18 |
Wellark | jgdx: please ping me privately and write a backlog of questions and I will get back to you :) | 14:20 |
jgdx | Wellark, will do | 14:20 |
jcastro | I set my nexus4 in developer mode but it doesn't show up in `adb devices`, any ideas? | 14:23 |
pitti | jcastro: I need to reboot after doing that | 14:23 |
pitti | about 9 out of 10 cases | 14:23 |
jcastro | reboot the phone? | 14:23 |
pitti | yes | 14:23 |
jcastro | ok | 14:23 |
cwayne | pitti: 3.7 complains when i try to pass -p <pin> | 14:30 |
pitti | cwayne: what's your command line? | 14:30 |
pitti | (I figure there's a -- missing) | 14:30 |
slangasek | ogra_: sorry, not clear from scrollback what it is you're waiting on me for | 14:41 |
ogra_ | slangasek, pointing devel-proposed to vivid-proposed | 14:41 |
slangasek | ah | 14:41 |
slangasek | I didn't say I was doing that :) | 14:41 |
ogra_ | hmm, i thought you said in your mail ... | 14:41 |
ogra_ | (but i was very tired when reading it) | 14:42 |
ogra_ | slangasek, in any case we should :) | 14:42 |
ogra_ | only -proposed for now though | 14:42 |
slangasek | yes, we should | 14:42 |
ogra_ | devel to vivid needs an image in there first | 14:42 |
slangasek | right; devel is not an alias, we promote the images into it when it's ready | 14:42 |
ogra_ | right | 14:42 |
ogra_ | but with the first vivid promotion it should be re-targeted | 14:43 |
dobey | daker: hey, how does one change the user-agent for a webapp now? i thought there was a command line option, but i don't see it. do i have to do the custom qml thing still? | 14:44 |
ogra_ | dobey, isnt that an oSoMoN question ? | 14:44 |
ogra_ | :) | 14:44 |
daker | dobey: yo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8642612/ i haven't tested it :) | 14:45 |
dobey | ogra_: maybe, but i've always discussed the issues there with daker before :P | 14:45 |
ogra_ | heh | 14:45 |
daker | ogra_: I AM THE WEB MASTER! | 14:45 |
ogra_ | LOL | 14:45 |
ogra_ | ok | 14:45 |
ogra_ | :) | 14:45 |
* daker hides behinds dobey | 14:45 | |
* ogra_ makes note ... daker - owner of the internet | 14:46 | |
dobey | heh | 14:46 |
daker | :D | 14:46 |
slangasek | ogra_: devel-proposed alias changed, should be reflected in the next import | 14:47 |
ogra_ | great | 14:47 |
ogra_ | image 3 is currently building | 14:47 |
daker | dobey: if it does work please tell me :) | 14:47 |
daker | dobey: you can test that by using http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ as your URL | 14:50 |
dobey | "text": "should not specify --webappUrlPatterns when using --webappModelSearchPath" | 14:53 |
dobey | daker: i get that when building a click | 14:53 |
dobey | is "includes" in the .json the same thing as expected in UrlPattens arg? | 14:54 |
daker | dobey: i think yes, just remove --webappUrlPatterns | 14:57 |
dobey | daker: is not working for me :-/ | 15:01 |
daker | dobey: you mean it does run but doesn't change the UA ? | 15:02 |
dobey | daker: yes | 15:03 |
daker | dobey: can you pastebin webapp-properties.json ? | 15:03 |
dobey | daker: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8747957/ | 15:06 |
daker | dobey: try something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8748045/ | 15:10 |
dobey | daker: hmm, still not working | 15:18 |
daker | dobey: :/ alexabreu anyidea why it's not working ? | 15:21 |
alexabreu | daker, yes unfortunately ... https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/fix-webapp-properties-ua-override | 15:22 |
alexabreu | daker, it will land soon | 15:22 |
daker | dobey: :/ | 15:22 |
dobey | indeed :-/ | 15:23 |
dobey | guess i'll have to do the qml hack | 15:32 |
dobey | i wish there was a --not-like-android option | 15:33 |
dobey | or a --empty-user-agent, but pretty sure that will just break the world, because web sites are stupid | 15:33 |
dobey | yup | 15:34 |
dobey | ooh | 15:36 |
dobey | this site seems to work with just "Mozilla/5.0" at least | 15:36 |
dobey | cool, so does launchpad | 15:36 |
daker | hhh | 15:37 |
dobey | google plus not so much though :( | 15:37 |
dobey | it redirects to https://plus.google.com/browser-not-supported/?ref=/ which is apparently a 404 | 15:38 |
dobey | lol | 15:38 |
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dobey | awesome, gmail gives the totally old school interface with that ua | 15:40 |
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mardy | Laney: mmm... does the deb package build there? I get a failure: "dh_install: gir1.2-accounts-1.0 missing files (usr/lib/*/girepository-1.0), aborting" | 15:48 |
Laney | mardy: you need to build on vivid | 15:48 |
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davmor2 | daker: when you say I AM THE WEB MASTER like that it makes me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw | 15:49 |
mardy | Laney: but I guess that means that we should update some build-dependency version? | 15:50 |
mardy | Laney: what exactly do we miss, in utopic? | 15:50 |
Laney | indeed, didn't I do that? | 15:51 |
Laney | ah, didn't push it | 15:52 |
Laney | mardy: try now | 15:52 |
daker | davmor2: https://i.imgur.com/HcHso2v.png :D | 16:03 |
davmor2 | daker: No it should read, I AM THE WEB MASTER.....TWISTED WEB MASTER ;) | 16:05 |
justCarakas | nice one daker | 16:08 |
seb128 | bah | 16:34 |
seb128 | so twice since yesterday that I use indicator-message to reply to a sms and that unity8 segfault | 16:34 |
seb128 | is that a known issue? | 16:34 |
ogra_ | seb128, yes, silo 13 has the fix ... | 16:35 |
ogra_ | about to land soon | 16:35 |
ogra_ | (or silo10 ... or both together .. in any case it will land tonight) | 16:35 |
seb128 | great | 16:35 |
seb128 | those are ok for rtm? | 16:36 |
ogra_ | seb128, you mean you didnt have that all week ? | 16:36 |
ogra_ | yep | 16:36 |
seb128 | I usually don't reply inline | 16:36 |
seb128 | but from the app | 16:36 |
ogra_ | ah | 16:36 |
ogra_ | well, unity8 crashing was the common meme this week | 16:36 |
seb128 | yeah, that I noticed | 16:36 |
ogra_ | you just found an additional trigger :) | 16:36 |
seb128 | but I was unsure that reply from the indicator was the same issue | 16:36 |
ogra_ | if you still see it tomorrow it is time to get worried :) | 16:37 |
seb128 | k | 16:37 |
seb128 | of course messaging app get screwed after unity8 restart | 16:37 |
* seb128 reboots | 16:38 | |
ogra_ | yeah, thats still something to solve | 16:38 |
ogra_ | though if unity doesnt crash it wont be that harmful | 16:38 |
ogra_ | the prob is that the lifecycle managed apps that are suspended would have to be started again before being killed ... | 16:39 |
ogra_ | but the thing starting them is gone (unity) | 16:39 |
kenvandine | seb128, what was the verdict on your titles-uis-tweaks branch? | 16:42 |
ogra_ | if you just kill them you produce unwanted crashes | 16:43 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, I want to flash my Nexus 4 onto vivid, I don't mind wiping it if I need to | 16:44 |
rickspencer3 | is this crazy of me? and if not, can you tell me the right command? | 16:45 |
ogra_ | rickspencer3, what channel are you on today ? | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, wow, it's been so long | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | I think 14.10 proposed | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | as in, not rtm | 16:45 |
ogra_ | devel-proposed (as you should have used) will just magically switch you to vivid | 16:45 |
seb128 | kenvandine, thanks for the reminder, I was waiting for CI to give me a deb to test on the device and sort of changed to other work and forgot about it, trying that in a bit | 16:45 |
ogra_ | if yoou used a versioned channel you are rather screwed | 16:45 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, so I just use the updater? | 16:46 |
ogra_ | and have to switch channels | 16:46 |
ogra_ | rickspencer3, on devel-proposed you can just OTA ... on utopic-proposed or 14.10-proposed you are at a dead end | 16:46 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, actually, I think I was devel, not devel-proposed now that I think of it | 16:46 |
ogra_ | devel wont have anything until we promote an image in vivid | 16:46 |
rickspencer3 | ah | 16:46 |
kenvandine | seb128, i was wondering what happened design wise, didn't mpt say something after you created this? | 16:46 |
Laney | I thought you could switch channels by passing -b 0 or something | 16:47 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, ok, I don't mind switching channels to devel propsosed | 16:47 |
ogra_ | which ... depending on QA spare time ... might take days oor weeks | 16:47 |
* kenvandine can't remember the story, friday seems like months ago :) | 16:47 | |
ogra_ | rickspencer3, you can do that via abd shell/phablet-shell | 16:48 |
rickspencer3 | cool | 16:48 |
rickspencer3 | man, this version feels ooools | 16:48 |
rickspencer3 | man, this version feels oooold | 16:48 |
rickspencer3 | :) | 16:48 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, ok, I'm in phablet-shell, what's the next step? | 16:48 |
ogra_ | rickspencer3, use: sudo system-image-cli --switch ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed -v | 16:49 |
ogra_ | it should show you the download etc and then reboot into flashing | 16:49 |
ogra_ | in case it fails, barry is your man :) | 16:49 |
rickspencer3 | ok | 16:49 |
rickspencer3 | lol | 16:49 |
seb128 | kenvandine, well, he said that some items are title, some hearders, some labels | 16:49 |
rickspencer3 | I can drive up to his house and he can fix it for me | 16:49 |
ogra_ | haha | 16:49 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, so, this version is remarkably old | 16:50 |
seb128 | kenvandine, I tried to use the right components, I just don't understand the logic so you might need to check with mpt again or to get him to write down what component to use for each indivdual case | 16:50 |
rickspencer3 | like, before we had a password screen old | 16:50 |
seb128 | since it's not clear from the design mockups | 16:50 |
kenvandine | seb128, yeah, i'm not clear on that either | 16:50 |
kenvandine | mpt__, ^^^ mind documenting that for us? | 16:50 |
daker | davmor2: :D | 16:51 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: hey Michael, how are you? | 16:51 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: I'd appreciate if you or someone else could review https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/powerd/upower0.99/+merge/240141 soon, as we are currently doing this transition in -proposed and it's one of the last items | 16:52 |
davmor2 | rickspencer3: that's cause that version is ooooolld | 16:52 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: ok let me look | 16:53 |
rickspencer3 | I'll be interested to see how it actually handles this upgrade | 16:53 |
cloudnull | hey all, I have an HP touchpad and was curious if anyone had any information on installing / updating a touchpad to use 14.09 . there are quite a few guildes out on how to get saucy setup but nothing more recent that i've seen . | 16:54 |
lotuspsychje | cloudnull: maybe the XDA forums? | 16:55 |
cloudnull | i've been crawling around there but to no avail yet | 16:55 |
Laney | pitti: Isn't connecting to "notify" going to lead to too many wakeups? | 16:56 |
Laney | You're supposed to just listen to the properties you want, no? | 16:56 |
pitti | Laney: well, the previous device-changed was no different really | 16:57 |
Laney | it iterates over every device each time ._. | 16:57 |
pitti | it's called whenever any device changed, right; but both the old and the new thing do that? | 16:57 |
Laney | I believe that this is no worse... | 16:57 |
ogra_ | that might explain why we are seeing upower being so busy on krillin all the time | 16:57 |
ogra_ | (it constantly fails the systemsettle tests by 0.1% CPU idle or so, while mako doesnt ) | 16:57 |
pitti | ogra_: oh, does the kernel send out a gazillion battery uevents every second or so? | 16:58 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: yes, but we have since fixed the kernel | 16:58 |
ogra_ | pitti, yeah, its is a bit noisy it seems ... | 16:58 |
ChickenCutlass | or at least are trying to | 16:58 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: ah, good | 16:58 |
Laney | Well there's some refactoring that can be done here surely, thanks to upower 0.99 | 16:58 |
pitti | Laney: yes, possibly; I just don't want to bind such a thing to the transition, as that alone is hairy enough | 16:59 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: so this MR is for Vivid? Just to be clear. | 16:59 |
Laney | Right. But it's a good time to notice opportunities. | 16:59 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: yes | 16:59 |
ChickenCutlass | right | 16:59 |
ChickenCutlass | ok | 16:59 |
ogra_ | ChickenCutlass, it still keeps the dbus quite busy, even with the fixed kernel | 16:59 |
ChickenCutlass | ogra_: yeah still more to do | 17:00 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: I assumed lp:powerd was about as "trunk"y as it gets? | 17:00 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: yup. only one branch | 17:00 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: so if we need another powerd fix for rtm 14.09, we need to branch off | 17:00 |
* ogra_ just wrote a small analyse script for our systemsettle tests ... and dbus/upower stick out on krillin | 17:00 | |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: right was just going to ask how we do that | 17:00 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: it doesn't need to happen right away; you can branch off r146 at any time when the need comes up | 17:01 |
pitti | (or whichever else revision RTM has) | 17:01 |
* Laney files a upower bug | 17:01 | |
Laney | s/upower/powerd/ | 17:01 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: so trunk would reflect Vivid and branch if need be for RTM? | 17:01 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: right, that's the usual approach; but RTM branches should not be created in advance, as for many packages we'll likely never need them | 17:02 |
daker | davmor2: fixed :D https://i.imgur.com/CVWSGsZ.png | 17:02 |
ChickenCutlass | right | 17:02 |
pitti | kalikiana, elopio: any chance we can land https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging soon to unbreak the emulator? | 17:03 |
pitti | (it's a trivial dep fix) | 17:03 |
davmor2 | daker: much better | 17:03 |
pitti | kalikiana, elopio: err sorry, I mean https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gles-dep/+merge/239618 | 17:03 |
elopio | bzoltan_: ^ | 17:03 |
pitti | (I just looked at the recent committers) | 17:03 |
elopio | pitti: it's simple to land into staging. To land into the archive, bzoltan_ does like a day full of tests. | 17:04 |
pitti | elopio: for a simple addition of an alternative dependency?? | 17:04 |
elopio | bzoltan_: do you have a landing planned soon? | 17:04 |
pitti | now, that sounds like a waste :) | 17:04 |
pitti | due to that testing in the emulator currently doesn't work at all so there's nothing to break; and it's a no-op on other devices | 17:05 |
elopio | pitti: well, maybe you can put that directly into trunk and make an update to the archive only for that. | 17:05 |
elopio | staging certainly has more changes that require going through the silo testing process | 17:05 |
pitti | elopio: I don't know (it mostly needs to go into RTM, but to trunk as well of course) | 17:05 |
pitti | elopio: I'm happy to do a direct RTM upload with just that dep change, but (1) I don't know who will slap my hands for that, and (2) it should still land in staging first | 17:06 |
pitti | so I'm mostly looking for "tell me what to do now" :) | 17:06 |
pitti | eek, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/powerd-utopic-armhf-ci/23/console -- it seems the CI train doesn't build against -proposed? | 17:07 |
elopio | bzoltan_ is away. zsombi is not around. ping t1mp or kalikiana? | 17:08 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: ^ so it's quite impossible to make this automatic test work; we can only make it installable in vivid *after* landing that very powerd fix, as that's holding upower 0.99 in -proposed | 17:08 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: (but I think that failure doesn't technically block landing) | 17:08 |
Laney | you could add some #if !UP_CHECK_VERSION-fu | 17:11 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: ok so the change looks fine to me. | 17:12 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: do you need me to top approve | 17:12 |
pitti | Laney: but that would then still not test the actual outcome? | 17:12 |
pitti | yeah, #ifdefery would otherwise work if you want to keep the branches in sync | 17:12 |
pitti | if ChickenCutlass prefers that, I can rework that | 17:13 |
ChickenCutlass | pitti: if it is not too much work — having that if check would be good. then we can stay on one branch | 17:13 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: ok; I'll look into this tomorrow morning then | 17:13 |
ChickenCutlass | ok | 17:14 |
pitti | ChickenCutlass: thanks for the first review! | 17:14 |
Laney | pitti: yeah, then a no-change rebuild, seems a bit shonky | 17:14 |
ChickenCutlass | sure | 17:14 |
ybon | seems I cannot browse anymore the FS of my Nexus4 from Nautilus, anyone experiencing this too? | 17:15 |
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pitti | elopio: ok, thanks | 17:16 |
pitti | t1mp: can we land https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gles-dep/+merge/239618 soon to unbreak the emulator? | 17:16 |
pitti | t1mp: it's a trivial dependency fix | 17:16 |
kalikiana | pitti: hmm well, it should go to staging and then it'll be in the next landing | 17:17 |
pitti | kalikiana: I'm happy to do a direct RTM upload for just that if that's ok, and stuff in /staging isn't directed at RTM, but indeed it should land in trunk first | 17:17 |
kalikiana | pitti: why did it break in the first place? | 17:18 |
kalikiana | pitti: staging is rtm, we have nothing else | 17:18 |
kalikiana | it's another name for about-to-land ;-) | 17:18 |
pitti | kalikiana: I don't know :) I suppose someone added the qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin dep to -autopilot and forgot about -gles | 17:18 |
pitti | kalikiana: ah, ok; so for toolkit, RTM, utopic, and vivid are all in sync? | 17:19 |
kalikiana | pitti: so far they are. I even heard today we might end up having new features in rtm despite utopic being release :-| | 17:19 |
pitti | I talked to fginther and ev last week, we really need to make the emulator a first-class test platform; otherwise it will keep breaking due to stuff like that | 17:20 |
kalikiana | pitti: I agree. same for QtCreator which broke last time for a similar mishap | 17:20 |
pitti | kalikiana: I guess for utopic that doesn't matter, as that's sealed now; so as long as there's nothing new to be ladned in vivid which isn't directed at RTM, it should be fine | 17:20 |
kalikiana | but imho trying to side step QA now is not the solution | 17:20 |
pitti | kalikiana: oh, I just suggested that as elopio said that ther are changes in trunk not meant for RTM | 17:21 |
pitti | or I misunderstood him | 17:21 |
kalikiana | pitti: we don't have any other branch | 17:22 |
kalikiana | elopio: what did you mean by that? | 17:22 |
pitti | oh, right, so misunderstanding; he said that there are other changes besides that, so they need proper QA | 17:23 |
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kalikiana | the subject of having a separate branch for rtm did come up; but we haven't done one so far | 17:24 |
pitti | kalikiana: as long as you don't need it, it's certainly simpler to keep just one | 17:24 |
mpt | kenvandine, my wireframes are not quite high-enough resolution to tell … But in general, the ones that end in colons are labels, and the ones that don’t are headers | 17:25 |
kenvandine | seb128, ^^ is that enough clarification? | 17:25 |
mpt | kenvandine, also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1242666/comments/8 | 17:25 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1242666 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "Standalone labels as an element distinct from group headers" [High,Confirmed] | 17:25 |
kenvandine | mpt, thanks | 17:28 |
mpt | kenvandine, seb128: When new visual designers arrive in a couple of weeks I’m scheduled to sit down with one of them and make a few pixel-precise mockups of System Settings screens | 17:28 |
seb128 | kenvandine, that's the rule of thumb I used when I worked on that branch ;-) | 17:29 |
mpt | so that we can then go to the toolkit team and say, “Please make standard toolkit elements look exactly like this” | 17:29 |
seb128 | some are a bit weird though | 17:30 |
seb128 | kenvandine, mpt, e.g what element is "Charge level" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power#Phone | 17:30 |
seb128 | it looks like an header | 17:30 |
Laney | ogra_ / ChickenCutlass: bug #1387810 | 17:30 |
seb128 | but with a value | 17:30 |
ubot5 | bug 1387810 in powerd (Ubuntu) "Improve device_changed callback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387810 | 17:30 |
ChickenCutlass | Laney: ack | 17:31 |
mpt | seb128, yes, “Charge level” is an oddball. It’s a header that’s doing double-duty as the label for the data adjacent. | 17:31 |
seb128 | mpt, I'm unsure the toolkit has an element that does that :-/ | 17:31 |
mpt | I’m cheating there to avoid repeating exactly (or almost exactly) the same text immediately below. | 17:31 |
seb128 | I guess we can do a custom widget in settings though | 17:31 |
rickspencer3 | olli, I have not put a SIM in yet, but so var Vivid on my nexus 4 seems quite good | 17:32 |
* mpt -> out | 17:32 | |
olli | ogra_, ^ | 17:32 |
olli | :) | 17:32 |
ogra_ | olli, rickspencer3 \o/ | 17:32 |
rickspencer3 | oops | 17:33 |
rickspencer3 | thanks olli | 17:33 |
ogra_ | just wait til we switch to systemd :) | 17:33 |
rickspencer3 | stupid tab completion | 17:33 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, oh, I will wait :) | 17:33 |
ogra_ | :) | 17:33 |
olli | lol | 17:33 |
ogra_ | olli, btw, i would have sent the mail i just sent to phalet@ to ue-leads ... but i cant (as a non-member) | 17:34 |
rickspencer3 | oops, phablet-screenshot doesn't work because I am not in developer mode and have no password | 17:34 |
ogra_ | (that was a super subtle way to get your attention to the mail, in case you didnt guess) | 17:34 |
rickspencer3 | it's remarkable how far this has come | 17:34 |
ogra_ | :D | 17:34 |
* olli feels like he should read ogra_'s mail | 17:36 | |
ogra_ | lol | 17:36 |
rickspencer3 | hey barry so, it looks like my click apps that need updates now that I am on Vivid are not updating :/ | 17:43 |
rickspencer3 | oh, wait | 17:44 |
rickspencer3 | I bet I need to rejigger my U1 account | 17:44 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, olli bug 1387810 (see my comment at the bottom) | 17:52 |
ubot5 | bug 1387810 in powerd (Ubuntu RTM) "device_changed callback does unnecessary work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387810 | 17:52 |
dobey | ugh, did that fix not actually get into system-settings? | 17:54 |
olli | ogra_, mind adding to the wishlist | 17:54 |
seb128 | dobey, "that"? | 17:54 |
ogra_ | olli, sure | 17:54 |
olli | smells like OTA to me from the 2sec I could look at it | 17:55 |
ogra_ | (well, sure, i *dont* mind) | 17:55 |
dobey | seb128: fix to have the user log in if the u1 account token is invalidated on the server | 17:55 |
ogra_ | olli, yeah, not critical to have in the golden image buut should be fixed | 17:55 |
ogra_ | thats why i made it only "high" | 17:55 |
seb128 | dobey, no, that didn't get fixed | 17:55 |
olli | gotcha | 17:56 |
seb128 | dobey, gatox was assigned to that but he left Canonical recently | 17:56 |
olli | all I heard is "not rtm" | 17:56 |
olli | ;) | 17:56 |
dobey | seb128: yeah, i thought he fixed it a couple weeks ago though. :( | 17:56 |
seb128 | dobey, well, maybe he did, some of his fixes didn't get reviewed/merged yet, e.g https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-system-settings/check-hash/+merge/236554 | 17:57 |
seb128 | dobey, if you want to review, feel free | 17:57 |
pmcgowan | did upower.99 just land?? | 17:57 |
seb128 | pmcgowan, in vivid-proposed only | 17:58 |
seb128 | it's going to stay there until the transition is complete | 17:58 |
seb128 | why? | 17:58 |
dobey | ick | 17:58 |
pmcgowan | seb128, wasnt that a pre-req for fixing that bug? | 17:58 |
seb128 | pmcgowan, could be, I didn't follow the details | 17:59 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, not a pre-req ... the bu only describes similar behavior we also have in RTM | 17:59 |
ogra_ | *bug | 18:00 |
Laney | I think it is only properly fixable with 0.99 | 18:00 |
Laney | just added a comment to that effect | 18:00 |
gcollura | who manages content-hub development? I would like to fix bug 1384490, and I would like to know if there are any plan about ContentPeerPicker appearance :) | 18:01 |
ubot5 | bug 1384490 in content-hub "Color issue of the hub's title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384490 | 18:01 |
ogra_ | ok, we probably need a second bug for the other issue then | 18:01 |
ogra_ | or land 0.99 in RTM :) | 18:01 |
popey | gcollura: Elleo and kenvandine I think. | 18:01 |
gcollura | thanks popey :) | 18:01 |
Laney | ogra_: do it | 18:03 |
Laney | AFAIK it's powerd, u-s-s, indicator-power ... | 18:03 |
Laney | ... | 18:03 |
* ogra_ dputs | 18:03 | |
gcollura | Elleo, ping | 18:03 |
rickspencer3 | I'm super impressed with how easily the switch to vivid went | 18:04 |
ogra_ | well, it is currently largely the same as utopic | 18:07 |
dpm | pitti, looking at the stats of 'hi', it seems it's not very well translated for touch (<10%) - however we seem to install language-pack-touch-hi by default. Do you know why it might be? | 18:10 |
dpm | pitti, I seem to remember you added a check on langpack-o-matic to build only those above a coverage threshold | 18:11 |
seb128 | kenvandine, looks fine to me, feel free to test/review | 18:22 |
kenvandine | seb128, will do | 18:22 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, i left settings running over night on both of my devices, neither of them hung or crashed :) | 18:24 |
kenvandine | not very scientific of course ;) | 18:25 |
pmcgowan | kenvandine, for which bug? | 18:26 |
kenvandine | no bug... | 18:27 |
kenvandine | just in reference to stability... | 18:27 |
pmcgowan | kenvandine, oh right I see | 18:28 |
kenvandine | also | 18:28 |
kenvandine | the brightness crash i can't reproduce anymore | 18:28 |
kenvandine | i spent 20 minutes trying to make it crash | 18:28 |
pmcgowan | kenvandine, I never could | 18:28 |
kenvandine | but i did reproduce it last week, so maybe something landed to fix it | 18:28 |
pmcgowan | maybe some dbus fixes | 18:29 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, and that flicker while changing the brightness slider | 18:29 |
kenvandine | i noticed it doesn't flicker on mako | 18:29 |
kenvandine | only krillin | 18:29 |
pmcgowan | thats true, at least not as bad | 18:29 |
kenvandine | looks the same as when changing it from the indicator to me | 18:29 |
kenvandine | but on krillin it looks terrible | 18:29 |
pmcgowan | right | 18:29 |
kenvandine | very different than when using the indicator | 18:30 |
kenvandine | which makes no sense! | 18:30 |
pmcgowan | didnt we decide its a different component? maybe more events sent | 18:30 |
kenvandine | yes | 18:30 |
kenvandine | which i have a branch to fix | 18:30 |
kenvandine | and that improved it a bit | 18:30 |
dobey | hey kenvandine | 18:31 |
kenvandine | but the screen still brightness looked to stutter still | 18:31 |
dobey | fix the updates plug-in :) | 18:31 |
kenvandine | just the component rendering was bad too | 18:31 |
kenvandine | dobey, bah... i'll defer that to you :) | 18:31 |
kenvandine | dobey, get me an update-manager service :) | 18:31 |
pmcgowan | kenvandine, did the startup fix land in rtm? I am not seeing it hear | 18:32 |
dobey | get it on "the list" | 18:32 |
pmcgowan | here even | 18:32 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, it landed, not sure if it was in the last image | 18:32 |
pmcgowan | no update today that I saw | 18:32 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, we should re-open that bug though... it's a nice improvement but it's still takes longer than 1.8s | 18:32 |
kenvandine | which is what the bug specified :) | 18:33 |
kenvandine | 2.2s | 18:33 |
kenvandine | i did some more profiling, and there isn't any significant outliers to fix | 18:34 |
kenvandine | so i think it'll be a bunch of small improvements to get it down | 18:34 |
pmcgowan | kenvandine, what can be deferred ? | 18:34 |
kenvandine | pmcgowan, not sure, i need to spend some more time on it | 18:36 |
kenvandine | i was mostly looking for things that stood out in the graph | 18:36 |
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kenvandine | seb128, got time for a review? | 18:47 |
kenvandine | https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/brightness_slider/+merge/240131 | 18:47 |
seb128 | kenvandine, that feels wrong, we should be using the toolkit slider... | 18:59 |
seb128 | kenvandine, oh also, there is a bug about using better icons from the theme, might include that in the same changeset | 18:59 |
kenvandine | seb128, the design doesn't include the bubble indicator for the value, which the toolkit slider has | 19:00 |
kenvandine | and i didn't see a way to disable it | 19:00 |
seb128 | kenvandine, how do you know the design doesn't have it? | 19:00 |
kenvandine | this slider doesn't cause the flicker either | 19:01 |
kenvandine | seb128, it isn't on the spec | 19:01 |
seb128 | does it say it shouldn't have it explicitly | 19:01 |
seb128 | or is that just not specified? | 19:01 |
kenvandine | no... but it doesn't say it should :) | 19:01 |
seb128 | if it's not specified I think the behaviour should be the toolkit one for consistency | 19:01 |
kenvandine | seb128, then we should change the other sliders to match, like the volume slider | 19:02 |
kenvandine | that's using the menu slider | 19:03 |
seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, maybe let's check design/mpt first what should be the behaviour? | 19:03 |
kenvandine | sure | 19:03 |
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kenvandine | have you seen the behavior on krillin with the brightness slider? | 19:03 |
kenvandine | it's terrible using the sdk slider, but the menu one is much smoother | 19:04 |
kenvandine | not sure why though | 19:04 |
kenvandine | only on krillin... | 19:04 |
seb128 | kenvandine, yeah, not sure why because the toolkit gallery from the clickstore doesn't show that issue (I think I showed you in Washington?) | 19:05 |
seb128 | so it's not the widget by itself | 19:05 |
kenvandine | seb128, yeah | 19:05 |
kenvandine | actually, was that krillin or mako? | 19:05 |
seb128 | krillin | 19:05 |
kenvandine | it's smooth on mako for me | 19:05 |
kenvandine | ok | 19:05 |
seb128 | try on your krillin maybe? | 19:05 |
seb128 | look for gallery in the click store | 19:05 |
Elleo | gcollura: yep, no-one's working on that yet; so if you fancy fixing it for us it'd be much appreciated :) | 19:07 |
kenvandine | yeah, it's fine | 19:07 |
Elleo | gcollura: as far as any bigger style changes go they'd have to be discussed with the design folks | 19:07 |
Elleo | gcollura: afraid I'm out for the evening now, but feel free to ping me about any questions and I'll try to get back to you when I'm around :) | 19:08 |
barry | rickspencer3: did you get it working? | 19:30 |
kenvandine | seb128, check this out! | 19:32 |
kenvandine | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8750492/ | 19:32 |
kenvandine | seb128, i started at 100, slid it down to about 60 then back to 100 | 19:32 |
kenvandine | look at those numbers | 19:32 |
kenvandine | it's getting the change notifications out of order or something | 19:32 |
seb128 | weird | 19:36 |
kenvandine | seb128, yeah... although it doesn't completely answer why the other slider does something different | 19:36 |
kenvandine | oh... i know | 19:36 |
kenvandine | different signal | 19:36 |
kenvandine | we change the value onUpdated | 19:37 |
kenvandine | instead of onValueChanged | 19:37 |
kenvandine | so using value, it's a loop | 19:37 |
* kenvandine looks at the docs | 19:37 | |
kenvandine | seb128, i looked at the same output on mako and the values are in order though | 19:37 |
rickspencer3 | barry, yes | 19:38 |
barry | rickspencer3: cool | 19:40 |
kenvandine | seb128, so with the other slider component, we don't tell the actionGroup to update the state on every value change | 19:41 |
kenvandine | we only do it when the slider is updated | 19:41 |
kenvandine | so it doesn't force updates out of order | 19:41 |
seb128 | kenvandine, ok, that makes sense | 20:20 |
seb128 | (sorry was at dinner) | 20:20 |
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Chipaca | sergiusens: http://vk.com/video4563284_166254248 | 22:48 |
guiarrd | hello, is anyone there? | 23:52 |
guiarrd | I would like to know what file system that Ubuntu Phone use? | 23:53 |
guiarrd | nobody? | 23:55 |
guiarrd | I would like to know what file system that Ubuntu Phone use? | 23:56 |
guiarrd | EXT4, XFS, BTRFS ?? | 23:56 |
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