[00:00] Wellark, ;) [00:01] I kinda have the feeling that we won't have those tablets in december.. [00:01] Wellark, it doesn't say *we* will release it though [00:02] Saviq: I meant "we" as a community [00:02] Wellark, if someone actually wants (as the article states) to buy some tablets and put UT on it... as long as they don't call it Ubuntu, they're fine [00:03] yeah [00:04] looks like they want to call it Ubuntu Touch though [00:34] Saviq_: Wellark i spoke to them, they say they've been in contact with legal... [00:34] I did point out the Tablet UI aint done yet and wished them luck. [00:38] I'm trying to send a txt msg, and I get SIM Card is locked, but SIM PIN is Off [00:39] is this a bug? [04:29] why I can send mms txt but can not receive it? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:07] how can I enable read-write mode. I tried 'phablet-config writable-image' but I get 'PING lunchpad.net... 56(84) bytes of data === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === duflu_ is now known as duflu [08:26] alecu, dobey: unity-scope-click now fails to build: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-unity-scope-click/6/? [08:28] looks like the new ubuntu-download-manager breaks it (see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ubuntu-download-manager) [08:28] sil2100: ^ FYI [08:34] pitti: thanks for the info! === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === ecloud_wfh is now known as ecloud [09:36] Good morning all; happy Checklist Day! :-D === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:28] does anyone know how to look if the phone received a sms and failed to get through the services/UI, or if it didn't receive it? [10:28] I'm 2 phones, an android and a touch one, send from touch to android works, back doesn't work ... the touch phone do receive messages from other people fine though === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:11] how can I enable read-write mode. I've tried 'phablet-config writable-image' but I get 'PING lunchpad.net. (91.189.89.223) 56(84) bytes of data [12:13] pngo_, thats fine, it should eboot after that and be writable [12:13] *reboot [12:13] does not reboot [12:14] also I can send mms txt but can not receive [12:14] seb128: /var/log/syslog and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8746254/ (that is the monitor output of sending an sms to myself) [12:17] pngo_, you can make the image writable manually ... adb shell ... then sudo touch /userdata/.writable_image ... ctrl-D ... adb reboot [12:18] another think that I found if I get an image from a devel channel, my sim card id locked, but if I get devel-proposed all works. [12:18] note that you lose the ability for any supported upgrade path though [12:18] yes, thats a known but in the last promoted utopic image ... all focus is on rtm currently [12:18] s/but/bug/ [12:19] stgraber ogra_ is devel (alias to ubuntu-touch/utopic) going to change to vivid? (same for -proposed) [12:19] it is rtm [12:19] sil2100, asac ^^^^ we should consider to promote the last utopic-proposed build into utopic ... so people dont get that issue === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:19] sergiusens, it will, once we have something in vivid [12:20] i think devel-proposed points to it already if i understood slangasek right [12:20] ogra_: well vivid-proposed would be good to set already; it is after all the development series ;-) [12:20] right [12:20] and i think that happened [12:20] just not vivid yet because the channel is empty [12:21] I tried both: ...rtm/devel and rtm/devel-proposed [12:21] we can only switch the alias once there is something in it [12:21] ogra_: devel-proposed (alias to ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed) [12:21] oh, ok [12:21] then he was perhaps waiting for it to arrive ... i'll poke him later once he is up [12:22] (i went offline before it arrived on s-i.u.c) [12:29] sergiusens, thanks [12:30] np [12:31] FYI even when I enabled read-write mode, I always were getting upgrades when I went to system settings. Not sure if this is current now when I'm on rtm channel [12:31] pngo_, yes, you will get upgrades but it isnt supported :) [12:32] expect it to break stuff [12:32] the upgrader doesnt stop people from shooting themselves in the foot ;) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:37] ogra_: get what issue? [12:37] shouldnt we just move alias of devel to vidid now? [12:38] * asac is still waiting for the upgrade to first vidi on mako [12:38] asac, we cant move aliases to empty channels [12:38] we need a promotion first [12:39] (well, we technically can move aliases anywhere we want ... but we shouldnt point to empty channels) [12:39] asac: it can be done for devel-proposed though [12:39] just need someone with the keys to do it [12:39] asac, the issue was that SIM unlock was broken for mako in the last promoted images [12:39] sergiusens, yes, and slangasek already announced he'd do that in his mail [12:40] same issue though, we were waiting for imge #1 first [12:44] I have another question, is there a way to install apps without login to ubuntu one account? this seems to me more like android/proprietary way of doing things. another words is there a command that I can use to install them? [12:45] if you have a .click package you can indeed istall it via commandline ... but you need to use the --allow-unauthenticated switch for that to tell it to drop all security [12:46] U1 has nothing to do with proprietary but with the fact that you want to make sure there is no malware coming down the drain :) [12:50] ogra_: if the click was downloaded from the store; you don't need te --allow-... flag [12:50] sergiusens, how do i download it via cmdline ? [12:51] * ogra_ didnt know thats possible [12:51] ogra_: just like click-sync [12:51] ogra_: sign the get call with the oauth cred [12:51] hmm [12:52] we should mangel that into a backup/restore script ;) [12:52] *mangle [12:54] well then you still need a u1 account to get them in the first place :P [12:55] cwayne, hmm, could that be backed up and restored via cmdline ? [12:56] would be cool to have a script that gets you back to normal even after a --bootstrap [12:57] vivid images! \o/ [12:57] * Tassadar starts adding 'em to s-i.tasemnice.eu [13:00] heh [13:00] does this mean utopic and utopic-proposed images are no longer built? [13:00] Tassadar, dont expect them to be stable :) [13:00] since last week, yeah [13:01] cool, so I can remove them [13:01] they would all be the same ... the archive is closed [13:01] well, dont rush it [13:01] devel will still point to utopic til the first promotion [13:01] I'll leave 3 images instead of 10, to save space [13:01] devel-proposed should be re-targeted to vivid-proposed later today [13:04] sorry, it does not make sense to me that every time I want to install app I have to sign in to account. I thought that once app is in the channel/repository, it is trusted, and malware free. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:05] and I free to install any app I want. this works on desktops. [13:11] pngo_, you are free to do the same on your phone === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:11] via cmdline [13:12] mzanetti, do you know when your unity8 branch for the launcher gsettings change will land? [13:12] ogra_, so at terminal I type "click notes" [13:13] ogra_, if I want to install notes [13:13] no, you download the click somewhere ... adb push it and use pkcon install-local --allow-unauthenticated /path/to/click [13:13] thank you [13:15] Saviq: can you answer kenvandine's question? [13:16] kenvandine, today hopefully [13:16] mzanetti, basically, when you fix your index branch ;) [13:17] Ran 1 test in 299.972s [13:17] ... [13:18] Saviq, will that landing also include the mterry's expose-lockscreen-passphrase branch? [13:18] kenvandine, yes [13:18] * Tassadar is wondering if upgrade on devel-proposed (from version 299 to 1, because of utopic -> vivid) is gonna work okay [13:18] great [13:18] that'll unblock a few of my landings :) [13:19] Tassadar, i guess stgraber or barry should be able to tell [13:20] Tassadar: ogra_ it's already been done for saucy->trusty in some way already [13:20] Tassadar: it will work if devel-proposed is a channel alias and the target channel changed. i haven't looked, but if the alias now points to a different channel, it should do an effective -b 0 update [13:20] yeah, I think I already discussed this with somebody, but I don't remmeber the result :x [13:20] oh, right, that was it [13:21] barry, not yet ... waiting for slangasek to change the alis [13:21] maybe I'll remember it for next version :D [13:21] *alias [13:21] ogra_: ack [13:21] ogra_: is the window for landing to rtm still open for today? [13:22] barry, i dont think so, ask sil2100 [13:22] if you have a critical blocker you can surely ask pmcgowan or olli for approval though [13:23] ogra_: thx [13:25] barry, if you have something you want to land then I suggest adding to the wish list [13:25] barry, was that your q from ubuntu-ci-eng? [13:26] olli: it's on the wish list. this is s-i 2.5.1 for phased-updates. it's sitting in QA sign-off. not sure how/when to push this along to rtm [13:27] barry, you dont ... (if it is an rtm silo) ... it is all in QAs hands now [13:27] (and landing team for pressing "publish") [13:27] ogra_: okay then! [13:27] thx [13:28] kemmko, I reported bug 1387656 [13:28] bug 1387656 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Connect to hidden network…" incorrectly has page stack chevron >" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387656 [13:30] barry: see announcement on -phone ;) [13:30] * barry is still slogging through email === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:47] pitti, sil2100: there's a silo for a sync to vivid, but i need to rebuild it and am having a bit of problem getting it rebuilt in the ppa [13:54] pitti: ping [14:01] cwayne: hello [14:03] pitti: hiya, so I've been trying to run some autopilot tests with adt-run, but running into some issues [14:03] first is this one: https://pastebin.canonical.com/119623/ [14:03] cwayne: oh, for sure; I spent some time on fixing most/all of these recently, so you really need 3.7 [14:03] should adt-run be calling pkcon install-local instead of click install [14:03] ah, let me check my version [14:04] 3.6 here, is 3.7 in a ppa somewhere? [14:04] cwayne: right, that's bug 1384417; but it's largely moot now [14:04] bug 1384417 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "Running adt-run without root installs the click for all users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384417 [14:04] cwayne: I just uploaded it to Debian, so it's not yet in Ubuntu; but I can give you a .deb if you want to [14:05] cwayne: for that you really need to give it your pin/password with -p [14:05] pitti: sure, ill try out a deb [14:05] cwayne: since we dropped autopilot from the images, the test needs root privileges to reconfigure apparmor [14:05] cwayne: the setup script tries "0000" and "phablet", if you use something else you need to specify it [14:05] bfiller, re bug 1374082 and your last comment: USS have no way of unlocking specific sims either! [14:05] bug 1374082 in indicator-network (Ubuntu RTM) "no API to unlock a specific sim" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374082 [14:05] pitti: makes sense [14:06] cwayne: http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/pool/main/a/autopkgtest/autopkgtest_3.7_all.deb [14:06] cwayne: (will sync to vivid by tomorrow) [14:06] pitti: thanks [14:06] cwayne: I'll still look at that bug to make it more obvious what the issue is [14:06] Wellark, your take on bug 1374082 ? [14:06] i may as well upgrade my desktop to vivid :P [14:06] bug 1374082 in indicator-network (Ubuntu RTM) "no API to unlock a specific sim" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374082 [14:07] cwayne: the deb should be fine on trusty and utopic too [14:07] cwayne: anyway, I had some catch-up to do due to changed adb/unity behaviour and dropping autopilot [14:07] pitti: yeah, i figured [14:07] ah [14:07] cwayne: so unfortunately utopic's version doesn't work :( [14:13] bfiller, but we can make a good guess, so I guess that something :) [14:16] jgdx: sorry on a meeting === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:18] Wellark, ack [14:20] jgdx: please ping me privately and write a backlog of questions and I will get back to you :) [14:20] Wellark, will do [14:23] I set my nexus4 in developer mode but it doesn't show up in `adb devices`, any ideas? [14:23] jcastro: I need to reboot after doing that [14:23] about 9 out of 10 cases [14:23] reboot the phone? [14:23] yes [14:23] ok [14:30] pitti: 3.7 complains when i try to pass -p [14:30] cwayne: what's your command line? [14:30] (I figure there's a -- missing) [14:41] ogra_: sorry, not clear from scrollback what it is you're waiting on me for [14:41] slangasek, pointing devel-proposed to vivid-proposed [14:41] ah [14:41] I didn't say I was doing that :) [14:41] hmm, i thought you said in your mail ... [14:42] (but i was very tired when reading it) [14:42] slangasek, in any case we should :) [14:42] only -proposed for now though [14:42] yes, we should [14:42] devel to vivid needs an image in there first [14:42] right; devel is not an alias, we promote the images into it when it's ready [14:42] right [14:43] but with the first vivid promotion it should be re-targeted [14:44] daker: hey, how does one change the user-agent for a webapp now? i thought there was a command line option, but i don't see it. do i have to do the custom qml thing still? [14:44] dobey, isnt that an oSoMoN question ? [14:44] :) [14:45] dobey: yo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8642612/ i haven't tested it :) [14:45] ogra_: maybe, but i've always discussed the issues there with daker before :P [14:45] heh [14:45] ogra_: I AM THE WEB MASTER! [14:45] LOL [14:45] ok [14:45] :) [14:45] * daker hides behinds dobey [14:46] * ogra_ makes note ... daker - owner of the internet [14:46] heh [14:46] :D [14:47] ogra_: devel-proposed alias changed, should be reflected in the next import [14:47] great [14:47] image 3 is currently building [14:47] dobey: if it does work please tell me :) [14:50] dobey: you can test that by using http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ as your URL [14:53] "text": "should not specify --webappUrlPatterns when using --webappModelSearchPath" [14:53] daker: i get that when building a click [14:54] is "includes" in the .json the same thing as expected in UrlPattens arg? [14:57] dobey: i think yes, just remove --webappUrlPatterns [15:01] daker: is not working for me :-/ [15:02] dobey: you mean it does run but doesn't change the UA ? [15:03] daker: yes [15:03] dobey: can you pastebin webapp-properties.json ? [15:06] daker: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8747957/ [15:10] dobey: try something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8748045/ [15:18] daker: hmm, still not working [15:21] dobey: :/ alexabreu anyidea why it's not working ? [15:22] daker, yes unfortunately ... https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/fix-webapp-properties-ua-override [15:22] daker, it will land soon [15:22] dobey: :/ [15:23] indeed :-/ [15:32] guess i'll have to do the qml hack [15:33] i wish there was a --not-like-android option [15:33] or a --empty-user-agent, but pretty sure that will just break the world, because web sites are stupid [15:34] yup [15:36] ooh [15:36] this site seems to work with just "Mozilla/5.0" at least [15:36] cool, so does launchpad [15:37] hhh [15:37] google plus not so much though :( [15:38] it redirects to https://plus.google.com/browser-not-supported/?ref=/ which is apparently a 404 [15:38] lol === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g|tea [15:40] awesome, gmail gives the totally old school interface with that ua === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:48] Laney: mmm... does the deb package build there? I get a failure: "dh_install: gir1.2-accounts-1.0 missing files (usr/lib/*/girepository-1.0), aborting" [15:48] mardy: you need to build on vivid === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:49] daker: when you say I AM THE WEB MASTER like that it makes me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw [15:50] Laney: but I guess that means that we should update some build-dependency version? [15:50] Laney: what exactly do we miss, in utopic? [15:51] indeed, didn't I do that? [15:52] ah, didn't push it [15:52] mardy: try now [16:03] davmor2: https://i.imgur.com/HcHso2v.png :D [16:05] daker: No it should read, I AM THE WEB MASTER.....TWISTED WEB MASTER ;) [16:08] nice one daker [16:34] bah [16:34] so twice since yesterday that I use indicator-message to reply to a sms and that unity8 segfault [16:34] is that a known issue? [16:35] seb128, yes, silo 13 has the fix ... [16:35] about to land soon [16:35] (or silo10 ... or both together .. in any case it will land tonight) [16:35] great [16:36] those are ok for rtm? [16:36] seb128, you mean you didnt have that all week ? [16:36] yep [16:36] I usually don't reply inline [16:36] but from the app [16:36] ah [16:36] well, unity8 crashing was the common meme this week [16:36] yeah, that I noticed [16:36] you just found an additional trigger :) [16:36] but I was unsure that reply from the indicator was the same issue [16:37] if you still see it tomorrow it is time to get worried :) [16:37] k [16:37] of course messaging app get screwed after unity8 restart [16:38] * seb128 reboots [16:38] yeah, thats still something to solve [16:38] though if unity doesnt crash it wont be that harmful [16:39] the prob is that the lifecycle managed apps that are suspended would have to be started again before being killed ... [16:39] but the thing starting them is gone (unity) [16:42] seb128, what was the verdict on your titles-uis-tweaks branch? [16:43] if you just kill them you produce unwanted crashes [16:44] ogra_, I want to flash my Nexus 4 onto vivid, I don't mind wiping it if I need to [16:45] is this crazy of me? and if not, can you tell me the right command? [16:45] rickspencer3, what channel are you on today ? [16:45] ogra_, wow, it's been so long [16:45] I think 14.10 proposed [16:45] as in, not rtm [16:45] devel-proposed (as you should have used) will just magically switch you to vivid [16:45] kenvandine, thanks for the reminder, I was waiting for CI to give me a deb to test on the device and sort of changed to other work and forgot about it, trying that in a bit [16:45] if yoou used a versioned channel you are rather screwed [16:46] ogra_, so I just use the updater? [16:46] and have to switch channels [16:46] rickspencer3, on devel-proposed you can just OTA ... on utopic-proposed or 14.10-proposed you are at a dead end [16:46] ogra_, actually, I think I was devel, not devel-proposed now that I think of it [16:46] devel wont have anything until we promote an image in vivid [16:46] ah [16:46] seb128, i was wondering what happened design wise, didn't mpt say something after you created this? [16:47] I thought you could switch channels by passing -b 0 or something [16:47] ogra_, ok, I don't mind switching channels to devel propsosed [16:47] which ... depending on QA spare time ... might take days oor weeks [16:47] * kenvandine can't remember the story, friday seems like months ago :) [16:48] rickspencer3, you can do that via abd shell/phablet-shell [16:48] cool [16:48] man, this version feels ooools [16:48] man, this version feels oooold [16:48] :) [16:48] ogra_, ok, I'm in phablet-shell, what's the next step? [16:49] rickspencer3, use: sudo system-image-cli --switch ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed -v [16:49] it should show you the download etc and then reboot into flashing [16:49] in case it fails, barry is your man :) [16:49] ok [16:49] lol [16:49] kenvandine, well, he said that some items are title, some hearders, some labels [16:49] I can drive up to his house and he can fix it for me [16:49] haha [16:50] ogra_, so, this version is remarkably old [16:50] kenvandine, I tried to use the right components, I just don't understand the logic so you might need to check with mpt again or to get him to write down what component to use for each indivdual case [16:50] like, before we had a password screen old [16:50] since it's not clear from the design mockups [16:50] seb128, yeah, i'm not clear on that either [16:50] mpt__, ^^^ mind documenting that for us? [16:51] davmor2: :D [16:51] ChickenCutlass: hey Michael, how are you? [16:52] ChickenCutlass: I'd appreciate if you or someone else could review https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/powerd/upower0.99/+merge/240141 soon, as we are currently doing this transition in -proposed and it's one of the last items [16:52] rickspencer3: that's cause that version is ooooolld [16:53] pitti: ok let me look [16:53] I'll be interested to see how it actually handles this upgrade [16:54] hey all, I have an HP touchpad and was curious if anyone had any information on installing / updating a touchpad to use 14.09 . there are quite a few guildes out on how to get saucy setup but nothing more recent that i've seen . [16:55] cloudnull: maybe the XDA forums? [16:55] i've been crawling around there but to no avail yet [16:56] pitti: Isn't connecting to "notify" going to lead to too many wakeups? [16:56] You're supposed to just listen to the properties you want, no? [16:57] Laney: well, the previous device-changed was no different really [16:57] it iterates over every device each time ._. [16:57] it's called whenever any device changed, right; but both the old and the new thing do that? [16:57] I believe that this is no worse... [16:57] that might explain why we are seeing upower being so busy on krillin all the time [16:57] (it constantly fails the systemsettle tests by 0.1% CPU idle or so, while mako doesnt ) [16:58] ogra_: oh, does the kernel send out a gazillion battery uevents every second or so? [16:58] pitti: yes, but we have since fixed the kernel [16:58] pitti, yeah, its is a bit noisy it seems ... [16:58] or at least are trying to [16:58] ChickenCutlass: ah, good [16:58] Well there's some refactoring that can be done here surely, thanks to upower 0.99 [16:59] Laney: yes, possibly; I just don't want to bind such a thing to the transition, as that alone is hairy enough [16:59] pitti: so this MR is for Vivid? Just to be clear. [16:59] Right. But it's a good time to notice opportunities. [16:59] ChickenCutlass: yes [16:59] right [16:59] ok [16:59] ChickenCutlass, it still keeps the dbus quite busy, even with the fixed kernel [17:00] ogra_: yeah still more to do [17:00] ChickenCutlass: I assumed lp:powerd was about as "trunk"y as it gets? [17:00] pitti: yup. only one branch [17:00] ChickenCutlass: so if we need another powerd fix for rtm 14.09, we need to branch off [17:00] * ogra_ just wrote a small analyse script for our systemsettle tests ... and dbus/upower stick out on krillin [17:00] pitti: right was just going to ask how we do that [17:01] ChickenCutlass: it doesn't need to happen right away; you can branch off r146 at any time when the need comes up [17:01] (or whichever else revision RTM has) [17:01] * Laney files a upower bug [17:01] s/upower/powerd/ [17:01] pitti: so trunk would reflect Vivid and branch if need be for RTM? [17:02] ChickenCutlass: right, that's the usual approach; but RTM branches should not be created in advance, as for many packages we'll likely never need them [17:02] davmor2: fixed :D https://i.imgur.com/CVWSGsZ.png [17:02] right [17:03] kalikiana, elopio: any chance we can land https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging soon to unbreak the emulator? [17:03] (it's a trivial dep fix) [17:03] daker: much better [17:03] kalikiana, elopio: err sorry, I mean https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gles-dep/+merge/239618 [17:03] bzoltan_: ^ [17:03] (I just looked at the recent committers) [17:04] pitti: it's simple to land into staging. To land into the archive, bzoltan_ does like a day full of tests. [17:04] elopio: for a simple addition of an alternative dependency?? [17:04] bzoltan_: do you have a landing planned soon? [17:04] now, that sounds like a waste :) [17:05] due to that testing in the emulator currently doesn't work at all so there's nothing to break; and it's a no-op on other devices [17:05] pitti: well, maybe you can put that directly into trunk and make an update to the archive only for that. [17:05] staging certainly has more changes that require going through the silo testing process [17:05] elopio: I don't know (it mostly needs to go into RTM, but to trunk as well of course) [17:06] elopio: I'm happy to do a direct RTM upload with just that dep change, but (1) I don't know who will slap my hands for that, and (2) it should still land in staging first [17:06] so I'm mostly looking for "tell me what to do now" :) [17:07] eek, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/powerd-utopic-armhf-ci/23/console -- it seems the CI train doesn't build against -proposed? [17:08] bzoltan_ is away. zsombi is not around. ping t1mp or kalikiana? [17:08] ChickenCutlass: ^ so it's quite impossible to make this automatic test work; we can only make it installable in vivid *after* landing that very powerd fix, as that's holding upower 0.99 in -proposed [17:08] ChickenCutlass: (but I think that failure doesn't technically block landing) [17:11] you could add some #if !UP_CHECK_VERSION-fu [17:12] pitti: ok so the change looks fine to me. [17:12] pitti: do you need me to top approve [17:12] Laney: but that would then still not test the actual outcome? [17:12] yeah, #ifdefery would otherwise work if you want to keep the branches in sync [17:13] if ChickenCutlass prefers that, I can rework that [17:13] pitti: if it is not too much work — having that if check would be good. then we can stay on one branch [17:13] ChickenCutlass: ok; I'll look into this tomorrow morning then [17:14] ok [17:14] ChickenCutlass: thanks for the first review! [17:14] pitti: yeah, then a no-change rebuild, seems a bit shonky [17:14] sure [17:15] seems I cannot browse anymore the FS of my Nexus4 from Nautilus, anyone experiencing this too? === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [17:16] elopio: ok, thanks [17:16] t1mp: can we land https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gles-dep/+merge/239618 soon to unbreak the emulator? [17:16] t1mp: it's a trivial dependency fix [17:17] pitti: hmm well, it should go to staging and then it'll be in the next landing [17:17] kalikiana: I'm happy to do a direct RTM upload for just that if that's ok, and stuff in /staging isn't directed at RTM, but indeed it should land in trunk first [17:18] pitti: why did it break in the first place? [17:18] pitti: staging is rtm, we have nothing else [17:18] it's another name for about-to-land ;-) [17:18] kalikiana: I don't know :) I suppose someone added the qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin dep to -autopilot and forgot about -gles [17:19] kalikiana: ah, ok; so for toolkit, RTM, utopic, and vivid are all in sync? [17:19] pitti: so far they are. I even heard today we might end up having new features in rtm despite utopic being release :-| [17:20] I talked to fginther and ev last week, we really need to make the emulator a first-class test platform; otherwise it will keep breaking due to stuff like that [17:20] pitti: I agree. same for QtCreator which broke last time for a similar mishap [17:20] kalikiana: I guess for utopic that doesn't matter, as that's sealed now; so as long as there's nothing new to be ladned in vivid which isn't directed at RTM, it should be fine [17:20] but imho trying to side step QA now is not the solution [17:21] kalikiana: oh, I just suggested that as elopio said that ther are changes in trunk not meant for RTM [17:21] or I misunderstood him [17:22] pitti: we don't have any other branch [17:22]