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shauno1am and I'm reading the source for apache-tomcat.  shoot me?00:39
daftykinsgimme an address and i'll come do it00:39
shaunoheh00:40
daftykinsmaybe a gun too00:40
daftykinsjust to be sure :>00:40
daftykinsi'm watching the world series final!00:40
daftykinsjoin me!00:40
daftykinshttp://www.stream2watch.me/baseball/san-francisco-giants-vs-kansas-city-royals-live-stream00:40
shaunogit://git.apache.org/tomcat60.git  come join me!00:40
daftykinsXD00:40
daftykinsis this your dropped java clients issue still?00:40
shaunoyeah00:40
daftykinsdid a test client shed no light on the auth issue?00:40
shaunosort of.  the dimmest, dingiest of lights00:41
daftykinshrmm00:42
shaunoit seems to be a 'quirk' in tomcat00:42
shaunoyou don't specify your ciphersuite as a list of ciphers, like in a real server.  you can only ask for a vague set of families00:43
shaunoso you have the family 'ALL', which maps to SSL+TLS00:43
shaunothe family 'SSL' maps to SSLv2,SSLv3.  the family TLS maps to TLSv1,TLSv1.1,TLSv1.200:44
shaunoso logically, we can just specify 'TLS' and we're happy!00:44
daftykinsugh so you can't even hardcode a specific version to be sure00:44
shaunoexcept for some *family same* reason, 'TLS' also maps to SSLv300:45
shauno*safe00:45
daftykinsuuuuuuuugh00:45
shaunoso we now we have to specify TLSv1,TLSv1.1,TLSv1.200:45
shaunonow comes the fun parts.  some parts of TLS aren't mapped to any of these names, and only mapped to 'TLS'00:45
daftykinscan tomcat be recompiled without SSL entirely? or is that off the cards00:45
shaunoso if we ask for 'TLS', it gives us SSLv3 for free.  if we don't ask for 'TLS', we don't get all the parts of TLS we need00:46
daftykinsthat's derp.00:47
shaunospecifically, when the client offers TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5,  this doesn't appear to match "tlsv1,tlsv1.1,tlsv1.2".  but it does match 'tls'00:48
shaunoso right now, my only suggestion is that they stick another box infront that does https-offloading00:49
shaunoand take ssl off tomcat completely as it apparently can't be trusted with scissors00:49
daftykinsyarr, or some VPN option if possible00:50
daftykinsbut a bit overkill for a web app i guess00:50
shaunovpn's not really an option, it's customer-facing to large  (150,000-ish) number of clients00:51
daftykinsD:00:51
shaunowhich is also why "upgrade the clients" isn't a readily available option :/00:52
daftykins=[00:53
daftykinsshame to have to add a link to the chain, but it does sound like the easiest00:53
shaunoit might actually be a good thing, their current 'load balancer' is dns-roundrobin00:55
shaunoso if they can justify putting another box in front of them, they might be able to find something that could pass an IQ test while they're there00:55
daftykinslol01:00
daftykinsi remember a Uni professor laughing at a student for trying to claim DNS was a legit load balancing technique01:00
shaunobah, shutting the work laptop off - no good can come of this01:18
daftykinsshauno: :D no sleep for you then?01:19
zmoylan-pisleep is for non-insomniacs01:19
popey\o/01:20
shaunoI don't 'work' until the weekend now, so sleep is .. flexible01:21
daftykinsbaseball it is then!01:22
daftykinspopey: bit early/late for you sir? :)01:22
popeygosh!01:23
popeylook at the time01:23
daftykins:D01:24
daftykinshttp://www.stream2watch.me/baseball/san-francisco-giants-vs-kansas-city-royals-live-stream01:24
daftykinsget some baseball in yer01:24
shaunoI'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound safe01:25
daftykins;]01:26
daftykinsshauno: that was even better because baseball pun :(01:26
shaunoreally?01:26
shaunoI can't decide if I should go to bed, or make a start on all the TV shows that my thingie's grabbed now that I've figured out they stopped because no space left on device01:27
daftykins! which thingy has committed this crime?01:28
lubotu3daftykins: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:28
daftykinsoh shh01:28
zmoylan-pi...no space on device.  sounds like time to add more storage01:30
shaunonah, just delete more stuff :)01:30
shaunoonce you hit 4G of tv shows, the answer isn't more G, it's less TV shows01:30
zmoylan-pidelete!?!  who are you the cia accessing senate computers? :-p01:31
shaunoer, not G .. it's a 4tb disk01:31
zmoylan-pirun handbrake to render the downloads to a smaller format and delete the larger files01:31
daftykinsi sadly went with the more storage option01:32
daftykinsnow at 10TB ;x01:32
shaunoeasier just to admit that there's many shows I have no desire to watch again01:32
daftykins^01:32
zmoylan-pione day we'll look at the petabyte drives at home and wonder how we ever managed with such small tb drives01:32
zmoylan-piand there's lots of shows you can watch again and again01:33
shaunoright :)  they're the ones I didn't delete01:34
shauno"boy meets world", however ..01:34
daftykinsaww i wanted to get BMW01:36
shaunowrite once run awaywhere my anatomy :/01:52
zmoylan-piwrite once, tweak everywhere?01:54
shaunoI can't figure out how to get openjdk7 on my debian boxes to build something that'll run on these java6 machines :)01:54
daftykinsshauno: 'write once, debug everywhere' :D01:56
daftykinswe were just talking about the Hoover Dam in another channel, which i visited back in 2012. have a look if y'like :) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/se578v7skbsx1wa/AAD77mPD2Rlx_H0937GjbY5Ua?dl=001:56
daftykinsi took some very jammy shots on a really neat tour down inside the place01:57
zmoylan-piscouting for the dambusters?01:57
shaunoneat :)01:57
shaunothey haven't /quite/ figured out what a hoover is, but still neat01:57
daftykinsit's a brand!02:01
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
mappscant wait to be back at WHL03:38
daftykinsdamn, Kansas lost.03:38
mapps#TTID #THFC as all the cool kids say:D03:38
daftykinsthose best not be hash tags :(03:38
mappsi said as alll the cool kids say03:38
mappsso TTID THFC YIDARMY WHL :D03:39
mappsno hashtags03:39
daftykinshopefully my disappearing serves as as-good a response there ;)05:09
zmoylan-piso... not a fan of hashtags then?05:27
mappsheh06:12
nigelb2307:26
nigelb(gah)07:26
OERIASCatholics in the UK?07:30
Myrttiyes, there are some, why?07:33
OERIASThought they were expelled07:34
OERIASor forced into private worship07:34
Myrttiyou're about 150 years out of date with your information07:37
Myrttiif not more07:37
OERIASnot necessarily07:41
OERIASI mean I know a lot of people who still have disdain over catholics07:41
OERIASbut they can't seem to realise that the church is no different from the church of rom07:42
OERIAS*rome07:42
Myrttiand your point being?07:42
OERIASI meant, "I can't believe there is discrimination of catholics"07:42
Myrttis/of catholics//07:43
Myrttithere, fixed it for you07:43
Myrttiwe all know there's discrimination of all sorts around, but discriminating based on the religion on a governmental level hasn't (at least in theory) happened for a good while in UK.07:45
OERIASreally?07:45
OERIASin some way there is still this social pressure that you have to be member of the Anglican Church07:45
OERIASor simply the old argument "There allegiance is to the pope in rome"07:46
MyrttiI'm not saying there isn't.07:47
Myrttibut you started your discussion with "thought they were expelled or forced into private worship" which happened because of the laws against Roman Catholicism. Discrimination on a govermental level.07:48
OERIASwhich is why some people still go to the anglican service07:48
OERIASpretend to be protestant, yet be catholic in secrecy07:49
Myrtti...07:49
Myrttithere isn't a religious police knocking down on people's doors giving the whip if they don't go to CoE service twice every Sunday07:49
Myrttidon't equate governmental discrimination with the nearby society's prejudices07:51
OERIASi understand that07:52
OERIASit was like that07:52
diploMorning all09:07
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Checklist Day! :-D09:36
LaneyGreet everyone with today's "day": ☑09:37
JamesTaitThat's it, my work here is done!09:38
nigelbhttp://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/10/28/security-checklist/09:45
nigelbRelated.09:45
davmor2hug JamesTait ☑ look at the fear on his face ☑ point and laugh ☑ watch his sigh of relief ☑09:49
* JamesTait hugs davmor2 back09:50
JamesTaitNice, nigelb. :)09:50
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:16
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:29
popeyo/11:31
bigcalmHow do?11:33
bigcalmRecently passed 1 year of married life. Can't say it's any different to the previous 4 years11:35
AzelphurI started going outside a lot more, apparently everyone wants to throw money at me11:35
AzelphurxD11:35
Azelphurhad like 5 job offers of ever increasing value over the past couple weeks11:36
directhexi'll pay you tree fiddy and a mars bar to find me a decentish little-endian MIPS build bot11:37
Azelphurhaha11:37
davmor2bigcalm: it is you have your own house now :)11:40
bigcalmdavmor2: I guess. Glad that's finally happened. But it wasn't due to marriage that we're here.11:41
bigcalmdavmor2: Amo was at the LUG last night11:42
davmor2bigcalm: how is he?11:42
bigcalmSeems okay11:42
bigcalmI guess he's ready to reintegrate into social life11:42
davmor2bigcalm: well I think marriage makes things feel more permanent and therefore might aid with those types of decisions :)  not saying it influenced anything just saying :)11:43
directhexit's an excuse for a party.11:52
marxjohnson /exit11:54
marxjohnsonbah11:54
davmor2directhex: I thought it was a way to get your amazon wishlist pile down a bit?12:01
directhexthat too12:01
bigcalmWell, if you want to help on that: http://www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wishlist/LXT6MFP2WUWA12:06
bigcalmNot checking my get_iplayer directory means I have 18 weeks of Nemone's Electric Ladyland to listen to. Happy days :)12:10
directhexhow can i get a raspberry pi today?12:10
directhexlike, not 3 days' delivery time. today.12:10
nigelbbuy me a flight ticket to london12:11
nigelbI should be able to give you mine :P12:11
nigelboh wait, no enough hours to reach today.12:11
ali12341directhex: go maplins and buy one?12:12
directhexali12341: "web only" according to maplin.co.yk12:12
directhexuk12:12
ali12341rubbish, i've seen them in the sops12:12
ali12341*shops12:12
ali12341the web price might be web only12:13
directhexnone in stock in banbury, stratford upon avon, northampton, oxford, rugby, MK, coventry, aylesbury, redditch, solihull, nuneaton, cheltenham12:14
directhexoh. the obscenely priced "starter kit". of course.12:15
ali12341there's a B+ in hammersmith12:15
davmor2bigcalm: I remember the album cover for that fond memories :)12:16
bigcalm?12:18
bigcalmOh, I see12:18
bigcalmdavmor2: how old where you when you in your memories?12:43
davmor2bigcalm: I don't know about 8 onwards it was my moms album :)12:44
bigcalmCor12:45
bigcalmBit of a surprise cover12:45
bigcalmSurprise to me that is12:45
=== alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch
marxjohnsonpopey: I'm now using fish by default13:14
marxjohnsonawesome feature number 2 is typing "command --<tab>" and getting a list of flags with descriptions13:14
popeyyes!13:15
popeyits great isn't it?13:15
marxjohnsonI remember reading about it years ago in LXF and thinking it looked fun, but never used it in earnest13:15
zmoylan-pia linux shell WITH help? what blasphemy is this?! :-)13:16
popeyi want to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", but only need to "su" and press → and it's done13:16
marxjohnsonsame here :)13:16
marxjohnsonIt's a bit like coding with Visual Studio13:16
popeyGet out.13:17
marxjohnsonsorry <open source IDE with slightly less good prediction features>13:19
foobarrywow, car insurance a lot cheaper this year13:37
foobarryfirst time under £300 in many years13:39
popeyblimey, mine's always about 200/22013:42
foobarryi get all the bits like legal cover13:42
foobarryand london13:42
popeyrenewed mine yesterday and it was £21713:43
popeynot london, 5K miles/yr and parked on drive13:43
popeyalso, old fart car13:43
foobarryyeah, i am most of those but london13:43
zmoylan-piwow, they should pay you for making their stats look so good :-)13:45
foobarryno claims 10+ years13:45
foobarryalthough i protect no claims13:45
foobarryextra hit of @2513:45
foobarryfully comp popey ?13:47
popeyya13:47
popey9 years no claims13:47
ujjainanybody ever had a blackberry playbook here? is it a normal micro-usb charger?13:48
foobarryoh comparethemarket is £4 cheaper but has a meerkat13:49
foobarryi remember reading that different compare sites will get different prices now13:50
foobarryso you have to do them all ..even more so13:50
foobarryat least they now require password rather than email and DOB13:51
MooDoohowdy all13:53
popeyyo13:53
MooDoo:D13:54
brobostigonafternoodlings MooDoo13:55
MooDooyou ok brobostigon ?13:56
popeyMooDoo: typo in your blog post.... "Debian I used apt-get install debian"13:56
brobostigonmy eczema could be better, otherwise ok. and you MooDoo ?13:56
MooDoopopey: doh! thanks13:56
popeylistening to very loud music on ubuntu phone \o/13:58
MooDoobrobostigon: yes I'm fine thanks.  just tinkering with backups/debian lol13:58
brobostigon:)13:58
MooDoopopey: i'm listening to dubstep for some unknown reason on spotify lol13:58
* brobostigon is watching the last few weeks of new TBBT eps.13:59
popeydont think I've ever listened to dubstep13:59
popeymaybe for 10s13:59
popeythen all of my "nope"13:59
brobostigonme neither.13:59
MooDooif you like thump thump wop wop wop then you'll like this lol13:59
popeylink14:00
popeylets see how long I can stomach this sony ☻14:00
MooDoohttps://play.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/6iFNvTHtyKvexTwEpEZwl714:00
* dutchie back to unity from gnome-shell14:04
popeymade it 1:30 in and thought ARRRRRGHHH14:04
popeywill keep listening14:04
MooDoono your about right....it's very arrrrrghhh14:04
popeyhaha14:05
MooDoogiives me an excuse to be wound up and punch people when they come into the office with a tech problem...lol14:08
MooDooexcept when they phone me up from the other end of the building raaaaa lol14:08
popeyok, managed 3 tracks14:12
* popey goes back to a bit of INXS14:12
* zmoylan-pi puts this weeks welcome to our village, please invade carefully on phone14:14
MooDoopopey: not listen to kick in ages14:18
popeyyeah, plucked out of nowhere14:18
popeyalso grabbed a bit of Erasure. My bro has a spare ticket, might go and see them.14:18
safiyyahneed help making and compiling a software in order to add it14:29
safiyyaham stuck14:29
safiyyahis anyone about14:29
davmor2safiyyah: you may need to be more specific14:31
davmor2popey: you mystify me14:34
safiyyahI am am trying to install a game called pyawale, its based on python14:36
safiyyahI downloaded the file and extracted it14:36
bigcalmTower of Guns is fun14:37
safiyyahI real the installation file which came with it and it told me to run sudo python setup.py install14:37
safiyyah 14:37
safiyyahanyway the game is installed but not running,14:37
mfraz74doing the upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 and the upgrade is stuck on "configuring update-notifier-common" at 0%14:38
davmor2MooDoo: I like https://play.spotify.com/track/22HYEJveCvykVDHDiEEmjZ for getting wound up :)14:38
safiyyahbrings an error. I think the issue is that I didn't go through a make and compile before installing14:38
safiyyahbut I can't seem to do it14:38
safiyyahhelp please14:38
MooDoodear coffee, next time, please stay in the cup, that's where you belong.14:40
davmor2safiyyah: it's avaiable in universe why don't you just install it from there14:43
safiyyahdavmor2 I searched and didn't see it14:43
safiyyahSd121522514:44
safiyyahlol14:44
safiyyahdavmor2, have I missed the addition on universe in my repositories?14:45
davmor2safiyyah: it's part of pygame14:45
MooDoosafiyyah: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository14:46
safiyyahmoodoo, how do I remove the damage I have already caused?14:46
davmor2safiyyah: a wait no it isn't sorry when you click on the download link it just takes you to pygame14:47
MooDooi've not read scroll back, what you done?  if you've just tried to compile something, just remove the src?14:47
safiyyahMoodoo I ran sudo python setup.py install14:48
davmor2safiyyah: so you need to install pygame first then you run the install instructions and then it should just work14:48
safiyyahMooDoo universe is already enabled but it isn't coming up.... am on kubuntu btw14:49
safiyyahI mean Xubuntu14:49
safiyyahdavmor2,  I have installed pygame it was the first thing I checked for14:49
davmor2safiyyah: how did you run python setup.py install14:51
safiyyahThe installation went through fine on the terminal but when you try to start the game it says it can't launch Failed to execute child process "pyawale" (No such file or directory)14:51
davmor2safiyyah: if it is installing it in the python modules dir then you would need to run sudo python setup.py install I think14:51
safiyyahis there a way to get the terminal history so I can put it on pastebin?14:53
davmor2safiyyah: history14:53
davmor2safiyyah: or press the up arrow14:53
safiyyahhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8747853/14:55
safiyyahline 109 - 111 returned errors14:55
popeynot surprised14:57
MooDoodid you use the instructions on the pygame site?14:57
davmor2safiyyah: just try typing pyawale in the terminal and hitting enter14:57
bigcalmWow - Jazzpunk is amazing :D14:57
MooDoohttp://www.pygame.org/wiki/CompileUbuntu?parent=Compilation14:57
safiyyahdavmor2 that returns command not found14:58
davmor2safiyyah: look at the link that MooDoo just posted14:58
popeyit works here14:59
popeyall I did was this:-14:59
popeydownload the tgz...14:59
popeytar zxvf pyawale-0.4.0.tar.gz14:59
popeycd pyawale-0.4.0/14:59
popeysudo python setup.py install --prefix /usr/local14:59
popeysudo apt-get install python-pygame14:59
popeysrc/pyawale.py14:59
popeygame runs...14:59
safiyyahhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8747916/15:02
safiyyahWhat does ffmpeg' has no installation candidate mean?15:02
daftykinsthere's no package with that name15:02
safiyyahhmmm okay15:02
bigcalmI've just seen a little girl take her scooter for a _walk_ around my cul-de-sac15:02
daftykinsbecause ffmpeg got replaced by something else, av something... can't remember the name15:02
popeywhy you installing ffmpeg?15:02
daftykinsbigcalm: scooters need love too15:03
davmor2popey: dependency list from MooDoo link15:03
popeybut...15:03
popeywhy follow that?15:03
popeyyou don't want that15:04
davmor2popey: because MooDoo was trying to help and got that link15:04
popeyok. well thats for compiling pygame15:04
* MooDoo shuts up :D15:05
safiyyahokay15:05
safiyyaham doing mooDoos link15:05
popeydont15:05
popeyyou dont want to do that15:05
safiyyahdo you guys want me to abandon it?15:05
safiyyahokay15:05
safiyyahsorry15:05
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8747956/ should work15:06
safiyyahhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8747960/15:07
safiyyahThats what I got up to15:07
safiyyahapparently my python is not new enough15:07
popeyno, you ran python315:07
popeyyou want python2.715:07
popeyso it's "not old enough" ☻15:08
safiyyahi thought so too popey.... but was following link okay starting again with yours this time15:08
popeyhttp://www.boycottlinux.org/ oh dear15:10
safiyyahpopey last command run the game no problem, but the graphical link still brings an error15:10
popeywhat link?15:10
safiyyahwhen you clock on menu > games? pyawale15:11
MyrttiNature Valley Coconut Crunch bar ♥15:11
safiyyahwhen you clock on menu > games> pyawale15:11
safiyyahthat doesn't load the game15:11
safiyyahshould we manually tell it which command to run, I don't want the kids on the terminal15:11
popeyheh15:11
safiyyahreaping harvoc on my very perfect xubuntu15:11
safiyyahlol15:11
popeyhmm, strange.15:12
safiyyahtrying the menu editor popey15:12
safiyyahpopey, even stranger.... it's not in the menu editor!!!!15:13
popeydoes it run if you do the ./src//pyawale.py  ?15:13
popeyit's not a very good version of Awale...15:13
safiyyahpopey, yes it runs.... but dont want kids on the terminal15:14
safiyyahthey just discovered the game at a friend house who has the actual board and stuff.... check online prices and they are extortionate. so we want a computer version until someone goes on holiday to west africa... only costs a £515:15
safiyyahdont understand why its £60 here15:15
safiyyahlol15:15
popeymy mum had the game when I was a kid15:16
popeyshe still does i think15:16
popey10 quid on amazon15:16
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Pressman-Toy-International-4428-06-Mancala/dp/B00004TFZJ/15:16
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Toys-Pure-Folding-Wooden-Kalaha/dp/B000EGFM8K even less15:16
popeyits one of those games that's better played in real life imo15:17
safiyyahoh the 6.95 is nice.15:19
safiyyahwill get that one15:19
popeyheh15:19
popeytempted myself.15:19
safiyyahkids are hooked15:19
* popey adds to wishlist15:20
safiyyahpopey I need peace. the sooner I buy it the better lol15:20
daftykinsXD15:20
popeyooh, chinese chequers and solitaire too15:20
popeyhah15:20
daftykinsi doubt you can say Chinese in this day and age ;)15:21
bigcalmDoes that go for French toast?15:23
bigcalmAnd Welsh rarebit?15:23
daftykinsyou never know these days :D15:23
bigcalmScotch eggs15:23
safiyyahpopey http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unique-hand-carved-Decorated-Vintage-wood-folding-Mancala-game-Oware15:24
popeythat link doesnt work for me15:24
bigcalmListing has been removed15:24
safiyyahits on for me15:25
safiyyahhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ashanti-Stool-with-carved-Gye-Nyame-stand-Mahogany-/221398268878?pt=UK_Toys_Games_Games&hash=item338c5d7bce15:25
popeywow, thats nice15:25
bigcalmGoodness15:25
safiyyaham reposting the first link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unique-hand-carved-Decorated-Vintage-wood-folding-Mancala-game-Oware-Kalah-/301373241508?pt=Games_US&hash=item462b3eb8a415:25
popeynice15:26
safiyyahpopey I think the £6 will get me peace for now and anyone flying out can get me a proper thing15:26
popeyhehe15:27
safiyyahhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STRATEGY-GAME-Traditional-Oware-Game-Authentic-AFRICAN-/310774896939?pt=Games_US&hash=item485ba0992b15:28
safiyyahsee everything I like is expensive!!!15:28
safiyyahyeah thanks popey. £6 is the price of peace this time15:28
popeynp15:28
popeyooh, like that one15:28
safiyyahyep15:29
safiyyahsome nice African design solid wood15:30
safiyyahnow how do we purge the one on the computer?15:30
an0keyreply 09 Sure - done15:30
an0keywrong window15:30
safiyyahpopey http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748297/15:33
safiyyahIt can't find the thing!15:33
safiyyahsame with the wierd icon15:33
popeyits not installed via apt, so you wont15:33
safiyyahoh it has to be installed via there15:34
safiyyahdidn't know that15:34
popeysudo rm /usr/local/bin/pyawale.py15:34
popeythat'll get rid15:34
safiyyahit's gone except for the mysterious one on the menu > games section15:35
popeymaybe that's in /usr/share/applications ?15:36
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safiyyahpopey not in there!15:38
safiyyaham looking for it too15:39
safiyyahdolphin is nicer looking for navigation, but cant beat the power of nautilus15:40
safiyyahseveral directories popey /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pyawale15:42
safiyyah/usr/local/share/doc15:42
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popeywonder if it can be "uninstalled".. lets see15:42
safiyyah/usr/local/share/doc/pyawale/15:43
safiyyahthose are the two directories everything is in15:43
safiyyahpopey so that's $ sudo rm /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pyawale15:45
safiyyah?15:45
davmor2popey: setup.py --help there might be an uninstall option15:47
popeyyeah, already looked.15:47
safiyyahdavmor2,  that returns: command not found15:47
popeysafiyyah: yeah15:47
foobarryhmm15:51
foobarryhalifax own me: current account, savings, mortgage, house insurance and now car insurance15:51
foobarrynot quite sure how that all happened15:51
foobarrydon't exactly get benefits from the custom15:52
safiyyahpopey is rm not a good idea?15:57
popeysafiyyah: i didnt say that ☻15:58
safiyyahwell can I do it?15:58
popeysure15:58
safiyyahpopey, The blasted thing is still there!16:02
safiyyaherm, how about opening a root nautilus and deleting everything graphically?16:02
davmor2safiyyah: whats still there?16:07
safiyyahthe menu option16:08
safiyyahAh.... popey there is one in usr/local/share/applications16:09
davmor2safiyyah: have a look in /usr/share/applications16:09
safiyyahlooks like you were right16:09
popey16:09
safiyyahthe rm command doesnt work  says no such file in directory16:10
safiyyahbut it's in nautilus!16:10
davmor2safiyyah: sudo rm will be needed there16:10
safiyyahdavmor2, I did16:11
safiyyahhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8748638/16:12
davmor2safiyyah: it's pyawale.desktop16:12
safiyyahfinally it's gone16:13
safiyyahdavmor2, why do we need to add .desktop?16:13
safiyyahdidn't quite get it16:13
davmor2safiyyah: it's a desktop file, ie an icon that shows on the desktop in the good old days.  So nautilus and dolphin both know this so will only show the bit you would see from the desktop  ie name of app not name of file16:15
bigcalmdavmor2: xubuntu, not ubuntu16:15
safiyyahdavmor2 also what is the command to remove a directory that is not empty16:16
safiyyahsudo rmdir doesnt work16:16
davmor2safiyyah: you don't want to do it unless you are sure the stuff in the dir is waste but rm -rf will do it16:17
davmor2bigcalm: yeap I know that but the applications folder only really contains .desktop files for the all the apps16:17
safiyyahits the pyawale files16:18
safiyyahthanks davmor216:18
bigcalmdavmor2: sorry, didn't know if you'd seen the xunbutu reference or not16:23
safiyyahpopey, davmor2  this little mishap taught me a fair bit today. Thank you guys. I still don't know how to compile and run but will come back when I need it16:33
popeyheh16:33
popeyhave fun16:33
safiyyah:)16:35
Azelphurhmm, does Lyft not work in the UK? I tried to enter my number in it and it won't let me because my number is too long18:41
MartijnVdSprobably?18:42
zmoylan-pienter it in hex? :-p18:42
Azelphurlol18:42
foobarrywhat's lyft? like uber?19:13
daftykinsthink so19:13
daftykinsi don't get the benefit, personally19:13
foobarryi use an oyster card for that19:14
foobarryhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pi-top-a-raspberry-pi-laptop-you-build-yourself19:22
foobarrymunneh19:22
foobarry:S19:22
zmoylan-pii want something that looks more like a z88 than a more traditional laptop19:23
Azelphurin soviet my house, heating pays you https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=34f2f11adf05aaff7528dda0be690985 :D19:29
Azelphuralso that PSU is a beast, it's supplying 814W according according to power monitor, but it's only a 800W supply19:30
daftykinswhat on earth19:42
daftykins:D19:42
daftykinsis that three dual GPU cards?19:42
zmoylan-piit's a trap to lure out any cats hiding around his house who won't be able to resist the heat :-)19:43
daftykins:O!19:44
diddledanAzelphur: is that a mining rig?22:09
Azelphuryea, albeit an old and crap one22:09
diddledanstill, it looks the business! :-D22:09
Azelphurhehe22:09
Azelphurpushing it to the limit, 850W supply drawing 814W at the wall22:10
popeydirecthex: any idea what runs on the microsoft band? is it c# based stuff?22:20
directhexhonestly: no idea22:20
zmoylan-pithe sdk hasn't been announced yet, has it?22:20
popey19:23:14 < zmoylan-pi> i want something that looks more like a z88 than a more traditional laptop22:21
popey+122:21
popeyor amstrad nc10022:21
zmoylan-pihad an nc100, nice bit of hardware22:21
popeyhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Amstrad-NC100-Notepad-computer-Good-Working-Cond-Inc-Case-/31113216535622:22
zmoylan-pii got it for a friend who wanted mobile but couldn't afford a laptop of the day.  got the nc100 in end of line folks morgan.  she loved sitting in park working away all day22:22
zmoylan-pibut a rasp pi in a nc100/z88/dana format would allow access to a LOT more hardware and software22:23
popeygolly http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-VINTAGE-MGT-SAM-COUPE-COMPUTER-MINT-BOXED-/29100733165622:23
popey800 notes22:23
diddledanmicrosoft band?22:28
diddledanhave I missed a launch?22:28
popeyhttp://microsoft.com/band22:28
diddledanthat looks quite featurefull (if you're a fitness fan)22:30
zmoylan-pia fitbit knockoff that shows how many service packs need to be installed or the time :-)22:30
diddledanthe advert is good22:33
diddledanI'm going to graduate uni just so I can be that girl graduating uni with mom and dad texting her22:34
diddledanok, that's a lie22:34
diddledanI'm not that committed22:34
diddledanthey seem to have crammed a lot of electronics into it - with half of all that being in the strap22:35
zmoylan-piwith batteries been so... blasty i wonder when we'll see the first smart watch explode22:38
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diddledanzmoylan-pi: that could cause some major injury23:25
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