[18:39] <bkerensa> slangasek: is there an appropriate process for taking over an neglected package in Ubuntu?
[18:40] <slangasek> all Ubuntu packages are collectively maintained; there are no takeovers
[18:57] <bkerensa> slangasek: except Firefox
[18:57] <bkerensa> its been built by an automated build system for two years
[18:57] <bkerensa> and it stops often
[18:57] <bkerensa> leaving Firefox outdated and with vulnerabilities
[18:58] <bkerensa> the two people who maintained it before stopped awhile ago
[18:58] <slangasek> um, no, firefox uploads to Ubuntu are always done by a human Ubuntu developer
[18:59] <slangasek> the nightly builds of firefox in a PPA are not "in Ubuntu"
[19:22] <bkerensa> slangasek: the uploads ain't happening
[19:23] <bkerensa> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/firefox/vivid
[19:23] <bkerensa> just to give you an idea
[19:24] <bkerensa> 2012 was the last change
[19:24] <slangasek> that's not an upload
[19:25] <slangasek> that's an out-of-date bzr branch, which is out of date because the bzr infrastructure is fragile and unmaintained
[19:27] <bkerensa> slangasek: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_33.0+build2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1/changelog
[19:27] <bkerensa> slangasek: 33 didn't release 13th
[19:27] <bkerensa> till the 13th
[19:28] <bkerensa> there was no 33 on the 9th
[19:29] <bkerensa> slangasek: Also [11:32]  <Sylvestre> [06:53:53] Do you know anything about the fx ppa ? Some people told me that they haven't been updated :/
[19:29] <slangasek> what exactly does this have to do with your claim that the package is unmaintained and not being uploaded?
[19:29] <bkerensa> slangasek: if the latest 33 is not being shipped why is it called 33 in the changelog?
[19:29] <bkerensa> 33 didn't release till the 13th
[19:30] <bkerensa> that was pushed earlier
[19:30] <bkerensa> not even possible
[19:30] <slangasek> that sounds like a problem you should take up with the person who uploaded it, who you just claimed did not exist
[21:25] <bdmurray> maybe the +build2 in the firefox version is relevant https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/
[22:54] <sbeattie> bkerensa: all the work that chris coulson, who according to you does not exist, is done in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/