[04:23] Maaz: tell Kilos "Morning Meneer!" [04:23] Apie: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:20] Morning guys and girls [05:24] Hi bduk1 [05:26] Morning bduk1 [05:26] Morning theblazehen [05:26] Hi Apie [05:27] Ooh now I get your name... [05:27] Woke up before my alarm clock today, 5:30 heh [05:27] Im slow... [05:27] Heh [05:27] Monkey? :) [05:27] Yeah :) [05:28] I use this nick on my phone [05:28] I know [05:29] Last night I got a 3D rotating cube in javascript working. I was chuffed :] [05:30] Took 2 days of reading up. Getting slow in my old age! [05:30] Apie: still better than me.. [05:30] Hi bushtech [05:40] morning apiebdunltumand others [05:40] ai! [05:40] Apie, bduk1 nlsthzn and others [05:41] no idea what happened there [05:43] Spacebar is still sleeping. more Kilos [05:43] Haste makes waste! Last night I downloaded 10.04 by mistake! Ai! [05:44] hi tumbleweed i think you had a hacathon thing some time in the last year can you add it to our re app page please [05:44] Now I have two copies :p [05:44] oh my Apie donker werk is konkel werk [05:44] head bad today [05:45] i dont space the tab complete adds one [05:47] apie teach maaz the link to the reapp page please [05:47] i scroll me dumb trying to find it [05:48] not sure how to do that [05:48] Maaz: help remember things [05:48] Apie: What? [05:48] Maaz, reapp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines#Benefits_of_Verification [05:48] Kilos: I'll remember that [05:49] Maaz: help remembering things [05:49] Apie: Excuse me? [05:52] Maaz, google kubuntu twitter client [05:52] Kilos: "Choqok « KDE Microblog client" http://choqok.gnufolks.org/ :: "The Best KDE Twitter Client - Make Tech Easier" http://www.maketecheasier.com/the-best-kde-twitter-client/ :: "The quest for the perfect Twitter client on Linux" http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/02/18/twitterclient/ :: "The Best Twitter Client for Linux - Lifehacker" [05:52] http://lifehacker.com/5879964/the-best-twitter-client-for-linux :: "Get the best Twitter app for Linux … [05:52] ah [05:52] Maaz, ty [05:52] You are welcome Kilos [05:53] On twitter kilos? [05:53] Is it worth using it? [05:53] i need to get the reapp thing to twitter ya [05:53] ubuntuza has some followers there [05:54] i wish inetpro will say if i should or not [05:56] or the fly too [06:04] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:04] apie i gave the bot the wrong link [06:04] thats the guide page [06:05] Maaz, forget reapp [06:05] Kilos: Righto [06:12] hi Kerbero [06:12] hi oom kilos [06:12] hoe gaan dit vanmôre? [06:12] bietjie stadig man kop klap [06:12] en by jou? [06:13] ek moet nou my koffie gaan kry voor ek kan begin dink [06:13] :) [06:13] verder is dit prima [06:13] lol [06:19] Vat jy iets vir die kop Kilos ? we worry about you [06:19] nou , i sleep it off. dont worry man ive been carrying this head since 98 [06:20] took pain killers for 7 years or so and all they did was mess up my guts [06:21] Ja best not to [06:21] what is the page link please apie [06:21] For? [06:21] re evaluation [06:22] have you added that we have lost 2 guys to silicon valley [06:22] i think thats important to put in [06:23] On the road now, I'll check it later [06:23] See email new link th're :) [06:23] ok [06:24] ty [06:24] Maaz, reapp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2014 [06:24] Kilos: One learns a new thing every day [06:25] hi magespawn [06:26] hello Kilos [06:26] what button must i use to see what the page looks like now Apie [06:26] i dont wanna edit i want to see whats been done [06:27] nlsthzn, wake up man [06:41] good mornings [06:41] morning inetpro [06:41] Kilos: pong [06:42] lol [06:42] where you been? [06:42] i need info please inetpro [06:42] uh, does it matter? [06:42] yes man of course [06:42] ai! [06:42] what's up doc? [06:43] i need to know first if we can add https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13877196/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv.torrent [06:43] to ubuntuza [06:44] and also the re-evaluation thing [06:44] better if you do it [06:44] then [06:45] can you and blaze please make up a report on your sfd experience [06:47] we must keep the guys going while the re-evaluation thing is still fresh in their minds. momkey and neelsie have done some work there [06:47] monkey too [07:03] uh... sorry but if it depends on me you'll have to wait [07:04] thats fine, i just need to know what to do so long [07:04] I don't think it depends on me man, seriously [07:05] can i add that info to ubuntuza on twitter or isnt it rlevant there [07:05] relevant [07:06] and trhe sfd report depends on you and blaze [07:06] sjoe sukkel vandag [07:07] if it makes sense, add it [07:07] if you're unsure, compile it, post here and ask people if it's ok to post publicly [07:07] * inetpro is not in charge of ubuntu-za [07:07] the tweet place man [07:08] you the guidance guy [07:08] otherwise you fight me [07:08] everyone is the guidance guy [07:08] ai! [07:08] strydom mood again today [07:09] im sure you smirking there [07:09] just busy here, sorry oom [07:09] np busy i understand [07:09] * inetpro is the least important person in the room [07:10] mmm, there might be a difference of opinoin on that [07:10] opinion [07:11] yip magespawn he is in strydom mode again [07:11] you will have to explain that Kilos [07:11] ai! [07:12] strydoms like to argue [07:12] ahh right [07:12] stry=argue [07:12] doms=??? [07:12] and dom? [07:13] dom added to stry =argueing just for the sake of it [07:13] hmm... [07:13] Down to 7MB data :( hi inetpro [07:13] hi theblazehen [07:13] end of the month tomorrow [07:13] eish theblazehen thats hard hey [07:13] been there done that [07:13] Ya :( [07:14] At least I get more saturday [07:16] yay [07:19] ohi superfly [07:19] hi Kilos [07:26] Hi superfly [07:31] hi superfly [07:35] hi Spekko bushtech [07:40] Maaz: ftp [07:40] Dump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [07:40] okay, that was a bit random [07:41] magespawn: this one keeps haunting me [07:42] and it is amazing how many web hosting companies do not support anything else, or it is their default setting [07:42] * inetpro hates having to troubleshoot user issues that involve FTP [07:46] FTP is an outdated, insecure, slow and unfriendly pig of a protocol. It has no business being on the Internet in the 21st century. FTP MUST DIE! [07:49] hehe see magespawn thats what put him in strydom mode [07:50] exactly [07:50] having worked with it a bit now, i am starting to agree [07:54] so ftp is the culprit and kilos must pay [07:54] sigh [08:43] inetpro do you deal with a lot of user issues? software created or user created? [08:49] hi every one i am back [08:49] hi JP_ [08:49] some more clever peeps here today [08:49] did you sort it? [08:50] hi kilos [08:50] and no i still have the same problem [08:50] good morning [08:50] Maaz: coffee on [08:50] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:51] hi JP_, Kilos, magespawn, inetpro [08:51] ok just state the prob again for those that were away yesterday [08:51] hi charl [08:51] :) [08:51] Hi everyone [08:51] hi theblazehen [08:52] charl, how much router experience you got? [08:52] ok i loaded ubutu 14.04 on a laptop that has windows 8.1 on ,it istalled great but my network is a problem [08:53] my network is connected but can't go on the internet or update or install [08:54] not a huge amount Kilos [08:54] Coffee's ready for charl! [08:55] JP_ are you connected via lan cable or wlan [08:55] Maaz: thanks [08:55] charl: No problem [08:55] ai! JP_ has a router but his 14.10 dont go online through it [08:55] you have to be very specific about the details of the connection please [08:55] eth [08:55] i aam on the wlan now [08:56] it was 14.10 ,its now 14.04.1 today kilos [08:56] ah [08:57] yea reloaded 14.04.1 today but same problem [08:57] i think when i still had my router connected i had to use dhcp before it connected [08:57] is this a big network [08:58] JP_ what are the results of dhcp, can you paste the output of ifconfig on paste.ubuntu.com ? [08:58] what have you done so far to debug the problem [08:59] i can try its going to take me a few min [09:00] charl, i think he is here from a second lappy [09:01] oh yes of course [09:01] while you're at it, also paste the output of route [09:01] then we can see if the router is configured as the default route of your laptop [09:02] as well as the contents of /etc/network/interfaces [09:02] those would be the three primary things (i think) [09:03] if you have to move it around with usb it's easier to do it at once :) [09:03] ok i pasted it [09:03] url? [09:05] you have to submit and then the url changes then that you paste here [09:06] ok sorry what is the all 3 commands i need to put in and copy [09:06] yes please [09:06] soory i am new at ubuntu [09:06] yes the output of two commands and then the contents of one file [09:06] ok [09:06] no problem :) [09:07] sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces [09:07] then copy paste the contents [09:07] or if you're on the terminal, cat /etc/network/interfaces [09:08] the cat command just writes the content of the file to the standard output (displays it on the terminal) [09:08] * Kilos sits back [09:09] the simplest way is the following: [09:09] JP_, you get terminals by pressing ctrl+alt+t [09:09] ifconfig >> info.txt [09:09] route >> info.txt [09:09] ccat /etc/network/interfaces >> info.txt [09:10] ok thank you busy with that now [09:10] that writes the output to a file called info.txt in your current working directory (in this instance) [09:10] the double > means it appends the output to the file [09:10] a single > overwrites the file [09:10] charl ccat, i have not seen that before [09:11] magespawn ?? ccat? [09:11] ccat /etc/network/interfaces >> info.txt [09:11] ^ [09:11] hehe [09:11] oh don't know it, interesting [09:11] what does that do different than regular cat? [09:11] bouncy finger [09:11] oh i see, typo :) [09:11] ahh yes maybe [09:11] right [09:12] cat just reads the file and outputs its contents [09:12] really simple tool [09:12] one of the "essential linux cmmands" [09:12] wb Apie [09:12] hi Apie [09:12] yup i thought is was an enhanced version or something like that [09:12] charl just helping JP_ [09:12] oh sorry ! i saw now i typed it :D [09:13] never even realised, apologies [09:13] lol [09:13] it's morning and i haven't had my coffee yet :P [09:13] actually i'm typing on my new laptop and i'm not used to the keyboard yet [09:14] hi folks [09:14] ok that cat doesn't want tp work [09:14] also not with the on c ? [09:14] ccat is not installed [09:14] yeah sorry my mistake :( [09:14] it's cat with one c [09:15] i'm on a new keyboard :D [09:15] excuses [09:16] * Kilos hides [09:17] Lol [09:17] * Apie points a banana where Kilos is hiding [09:17] :D [09:18] Apie: don't point your ******* bananas at me :D [09:18] sorry bad reference to a movie [09:18] hehe [09:19] help JP_ man we need new blood [09:19] * Kilos sharpens vampire teeth [09:20] hehe [09:22] ok pasted is that every thing [09:22] do you have everything in one file now that you can bring over ? [09:23] if you can bring that onto your other laptop with for example a usb key and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url then we can see what's going on [09:23] yea i just pasted it ,is all there ,i hope [09:24] sorry if words come out funny [09:25] JP_, after you have it there tick paste then copy,paste the new link here [09:26] you will see it has changed [09:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744539/ sorry guys ,blond moment [09:27] np [09:28] ok let's see [09:29] eth0 has no ip address, that's your first problem [09:29] wlan0 DOES have an ip address [09:29] are you sure you are connected via lan cable [09:29] because it looks like you're connected via wireless [09:30] your routing table looks good, for wireless [09:31] nothing static configured in your interfaces file so you must be using dhcp [09:31] only guess i can make is that there is something wrong with your wireless connection [09:31] there could be a driver problem, for example [09:31] or something could even be up with the router's configuration [09:31] yes the wireless is on the wired network is unpluged wil past a other one with everthing connected [09:31] yes with the wired network enabled and wireless disabled please [09:32] you don't need the /etc/network/interfaces again, only ifconfig and route this time [09:32] yes i am using dhcp [09:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744645/ [09:34] now it looks like you have both enabled but it looks good [09:35] you have an ip address on eth0 and another entry in your routing table [09:35] looks perfect [09:35] and you really cannot access anything from that machine? have you tried pinging google.com? [09:35] sorry i did disconnect it will do it again [09:36] no problem doesn't matter afaik it looks good [09:36] but maybe try pinging google.com, leave the ping running and try all kinds of things [09:36] like the one enabled, the other disabled, then vice versa, both enabled etc [09:36] if you start getting a response that's a good thing [09:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744683/ here we go [09:38] yeah that looks good [09:38] i think try the ping next [09:39] i have done that already it gives me [09:39] unknown host [09:40] ah then the problem might be related to your dns [09:40] one sec [09:40] how do i sort that out [09:40] can you give us the output of this command: [09:40] nmcli dev list iface eth0 [09:41] ok cool [09:44] here we go http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744719/ [09:48] back in 5 ,just need to check a delivery [09:49] gotta go as well, chat latter [09:50] IP4.DNS[1]: 10.0.0.2 [09:50] that line is what i'm interested in [09:50] is that correct? [09:50] is that your router perhaps? [09:52] first try this to see it your network is working: [09:52] ping 8.8.8.8 [09:52] if you get a response the problem is definitely related to your dns [09:56] ok i just got word ,i needd to set 10 laptops that are pre-loaded with windows 8.1 with abuntu 14.04 and they must connect to any wireless connection [09:56] ok [09:57] sjoe [09:57] sorry i have to go [09:57] keep note of how you sort the first one [09:57] bbl [09:57] it gives unreachable [09:58] will do [09:59] now you have to be patient again, the guys have to keep work stuff going as well [10:00] it ok ,he is a great help and so are you ,waiting is worth it [10:01] start installing on the next one so long [10:01] hehe [10:01] actually lets try something [10:01] ha ha ha ha ha ha don't remind me [10:02] have you got another one nearby [10:02] and how are you installing from dvd or usb stick [10:02] i have 10 of them [10:03] lets see if the live system can connect [10:03] that is your install medium [10:04] ok the live system is where i run it from the flash [10:04] cool boot one from the flash disk and choose try [10:04] not install [10:05] ok will do so [10:19] does the same as the installed ubuntu [10:19] did you look at the top right in the panel there [10:20] you should see a network manager applet [10:20] you click on that and it will open a window with settings [10:21] ok will check now [10:24] nope there isn't a network manager applet [10:25] i see when you want to install ubuntu there is a oem install [10:26] i am on kubuntu so its different, and memory sucks. you see the volume icon? [10:26] next to that should be a network icon [10:28] nope there isn't [10:28] eish [10:29] is the eth cable plugged in? [10:29] yea maby i must try the oem [10:29] yip its pluged [10:29] unplug and replug and see then [10:30] how good is that cable [10:30] ok [10:30] try another one [10:30] is there a network reset command [10:30] 14.04 sees any network connections normally. if there is no icon there is no network connection [10:31] is there anyway you can bypass the router and go direct adsl [10:32] nope ,only if i connect wireless [10:33] i am on the same net work ,but with windows [10:34] whew, you have a 3g modem near? [10:35] no sorry ,i don't have [10:35] hmm... [10:35] nlsthzn, ping [10:36] JP_, how did you make the flash install disk [10:36] must i put that in to command prop [10:37] what? [10:38] oh the nlsthzn thing [10:38] no im calling one of the guys thats in the uae [10:38] i used Universal USB Installer to install the iso on the stick [10:38] ha ha ha ha o ok sorry [10:38] hehe [10:39] i use unetbootin and never have probs but dunno if windows can do unetbootin [10:39] Maaz, google unetbootin for windows [10:39] Kilos: "UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads" http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ :: "UNetbootin | SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/ :: "Download UNetbootin from SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/latest/download :: "UNetbootin" http://unetbootin.net/ :: "How to use UnetBootin to create a bootable USB for [10:39] Windows 7 ..." http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/12/unetbootin-create-bootable-usb-windows-7.h… [10:41] we need to see the network icon [10:41] then we can set it for dhcp or whatever [10:41] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [10:41] try making a stick with the above link next time [10:42] ok downloading now [10:42] im not clued on routers but my scrappy one had to be reset if i remember right [10:45] ok do i choose 14.04 live or hdmedia or netinstall [10:46] do you have the iso there [10:47] yea i do [10:47] ok is see now [10:48] ok on ubuntu i open unetbootin then tick choose and point it to where the iso is\\ [10:50] ok cool [11:02] i used the programme to install the iso on the flash ,started ubuntu on try it and now when i unplug the network cable and try to connect on wireless it gives me this [11:03] (1)creating object for path'/org/freedesktop/networkmanager/activeconnection/2'failed in libnm-glib. [11:04] ok do you see the network manager icon up top [11:07] there is a wi-fi simbol and if i click on it it give me edit connections and vpn and a few more stuff [11:08] ok look at the wifi stuff, maybe some settings in there one uses [11:09] and on vpn you should be able to choose all the settings such as lan wan and mobile [11:09] im not the right guy to be helping, but there is no one else available right now [11:10] im a born beginner [11:10] ha ha ha ha ha ha its cool ,any help is better as no help [11:12] lol thats why i try [11:12] but seeing the nm icon is good for now [11:13]