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gaci'm assuming there's a driver as that BT chipset is included in several certified laptops - potentially an rfkill issue, or something to do with the hardware switch. that'd be my guess, but it's just a guess00:00
[Saint_]ditched grub2 for grub, grub2 install errors out. Reboot required, wish me luck.00:00
lagboxthe results i am seeing seem to imply you need to build the driver00:00
Guest28273Curious I am wondering what is the oldest version of linux that has a firefox browser that supports the current website technology I am using this old lucid version 10 ish and this computer is 512 MB  , AMD Athlon XP 1500+ processor , with 80 GB HD00:00
lagboxGuest28273, well you would have to look into firefox and find when they implemented html500:01
lonewulf85lagbox, any ideas or sites that I can use as a reference?00:01
Guest28273The browser I am trying to get to work with the newest web sites the only way to do this is install a new version of ubuntu but I don''t want to install a to new version that would run to slow for this slow computer already00:01
Guest28273No , I just want to know what ubuntus repo support what firefox versions quickly without have to look it up00:02
lagboxlonewulf i just googled "ubuntu Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth"00:02
bazhang!info firefox00:02
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 33.0+build2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1 (utopic), package size 36030 kB, installed size 87366 kB00:02
gacGuest28273: packages.ubuntu.com00:02
bazhangGuest28273, ^00:02
lonewulf85lagbox, I did and got an ubuntu forms site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2115570.html should that work?00:02
OerHeksGuest28273, the bottleneck is your videocard, ram and cpu, not an older firefox00:02
OerHeksGuest28273, get Xubuntu for such ancient hardware00:03
kojakzitok1l: ok now I removed everything and was able to move forward. Now im getting this (After sudo apt-get install ... apache2-prefork-dev):00:03
kojakzitoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  apache2-prefork-dev : Depends: libaprutil1-dev but it is not going to be installed00:03
lagboxidk i suppose its worth a try00:03
gackojakzito: try installing the lib manually - it could be that the 12.04 version can't be installed because it conflicts with the 13.10 software you've probably got on your system now due to your sources.list mishap00:04
Ben64kojakzito: yeah, looks like a broken system to me. you should remember this for future reference, and install 14.0400:04
gackojakzito: at this point, if you need this box to be reliable, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to just rebuild it00:04
[Saint_]Just wanted to come back and say thank you to those who attempted to assist me through this00:07
Guest28273forget it normally I have to figure it out anyway00:07
[Saint_]I have it "fixed"00:07
[Saint_]Swapping out grub2 for grub "Just Worked(TM)"00:07
kojakzitoyeah00:08
kojakzitoill just go ahead and reinstall the system00:09
kojakzitobrb!00:09
lagboxlol00:12
lonewulf85lagbox, I tried to make the drive and still no luck00:12
lagboxhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/324115/ralink-bluetooth-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-04   that is the one i was reading00:12
lagboxi would imagine that there may be a driver already and that driver needs to be blacklisted00:13
lonewulf85lagbox, I will give that a shot00:13
lagboxbut im just kinda guessing my friend00:13
lagboxi haven't had a need for my bluetooth so i haven't tried to enable it yet00:13
dji am having problems setting up OpenVPN on my system. I have downloaded the pkg and ran command   dpkg -i openvpn-as-2.0.10-Ubuntu14.i386.deb and it gives me   dpkg: error processing archive openvpn-as-2.0.10-Ubuntu14.i386.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory.   How do I install the package00:14
Ben64dj: why are you using the deb00:14
BlackDalekIs there any way to get the people in the #libreoffice channel to become active? They are always asleep ;)00:14
djBen64: I downloaded it from the openvpn website. I was trying to follow their instructions00:15
lonewulf85lagbox, I want to transfer files from my pc to my tablet with out the usb cable.00:15
Ben64dj: it is in the ubuntu repositories, use that. Ubuntu Software Center or open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install openvpn"00:15
lagboxwell that is a good use for it :)00:15
lonewulf85lagbox. lol yeah i thought so00:15
lagboxactually my bluetooth used to be enabled .. atm in 14.10 it isn't even accesible00:15
lonewulf85lagbox, nice00:16
BlackDalekDoes anyone in here know anything about working with video clips in Libreoffice Impress?00:16
Buzhang!ops | bazhang00:17
djBen64: Thank you. I got it from the repository now, but how do I access it? i am fairly new to Linux00:17
lonewulf85BlackDalek, I have not even tried but thumbs up why not use dalekcon00:17
lagboxokie dokie then00:18
Ben64dj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN00:18
djBen64:  Thank you for your help00:18
BlackDalekI have a problem with Impress where I inserted a video clip into a slide, but then I needed to edit the video clip, and when I re-inserted the NEW video clip, the old (I assume cached) version of the clip is inserted instead. It just refuses to update to the current version of the video clip. :(00:20
Guest28273firefox build 33.0 for ubuntu 14 ish and precises 12 ish has the same version of firefox about  , lucid update has say firefox 20.0 so I big leap I would say either uses 13 or 14  don't know how much performance hinderness is between 13 to 14 but not sure I even care to look it up00:20
BlackDalekI am hoping someone knows how to or if it is possible to delete Libreoffice Impress' cache for video files (if such a thing exists).00:21
Ben64Guest28273: 13.04 and 13.10 are both out of support00:24
FilthyMacNastythen I guess I should do something about my dapper mail server00:24
[Saint_]Sooooo - the path back to sanity was kinda weird.00:25
Ben64Guest28273: you should install either 12.04 or 14.04, 12.04 is supported until 2017, which hopefully you can get a better computer by then, or if not, 14.04 is supported until 2019 :D00:25
[Saint_]uninstall grub; purge the excess kernels; reinstall grub; update grub; install grub2, update grub00:26
[Saint_]Now to see if I can replicate that success on a real machine.00:26
Ben64[Saint_]: got grub and grub2 installed? doesn't sound like a good idea00:26
[Saint_]Ben64: no...that's impossible.00:26
Ben64that is what you said00:26
[Saint_]It is, but one should know that grub2 will remove grub.00:27
Ben64who knows man, you could get around that00:27
Guest28273O wait firefox and html5 not even sure they implemented the complete standards for it but most of it so I guess the equation is the browser that will last the longest for new site in the future so I don't have to upgrade .... hmmm maybe just uses/try ubuntu 14 and forget everything else it is for another computer guy but he only really uses the browser sometimes so I could go with a new distro but why complicate things00:27
[Saint_]You actually can't...but, whatever.00:28
lagboxno single version of a browser will be current00:28
lagboxthey are constantly updating00:28
Ben64Guest28273: you should really use the whole version. there is no "ubuntu 14" there is 14.04 and 14.1000:28
[Saint_]grub(2) has quite some protection from stupidity, for exactly this reason.00:28
kojakzitojust re-installed the box, 12.04 LTS00:28
[Saint_]Its not possible to have both installed unless you do some _extreme_ manual fuckery.00:28
Ben64kojakzito: why not 14.04?00:29
Ben64[Saint_]: watch the language here00:29
Guest28273well I would like an operating system of linux that supports the 99.999% of websites without having to reinstall another OS in a couple of years or do updates every 3 to 6 months00:29
kojakzitoBen64: I'm forced to use this one.00:29
kojakzitoi' d choose 14.04 no questions00:29
lagboxyou can't00:29
lagboxas websites are built using newer technologies that 99% number will become impossible00:29
Ben64Guest28273: i've explained this already. 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 until 2019. pick one00:30
jayaranyone use/recommend Artillery?00:30
Guest28273Plus I need new internet capablities on a limited hardware old machine so if not ubuntu what other linux one would you recommend that would run fast and not be like tinylinux or some other archic hard to uses linux for the nonlinux user... for me i don't have any problem with any version ... not for me and tell me something I don't know00:31
[Saint_]With the slow and broken adoption of HTTP2 draft, it'll be impossible to obtain that 99.999% number for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time.00:31
[Saint_]The Internet is always, constantly, being broken.00:31
lagboxi would imagine there is some backporting going on in those versions00:31
daftykinsGuest28273: i'm a little lost as to why you believe an OS is holding back websites00:31
[Saint_]Always has been, always will be.00:31
OerHeksjayar that would be more a backtrack or kali question00:32
Ben64Guest28273: this is an ubuntu support channel, this is not the place to get distro recommendations00:32
Guest28273Ok for the major sites like yahoo , google , sports fantasy football ,...etc sites00:32
lagboxhehe00:32
lagboxgoogle is the site that uses bleeding edge00:32
[Saint_]I was just going to say.00:32
lagboxatleast for parts of it00:32
Ben64Guest28273: for the 42nd time, 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 is supported until 2019. pick one of them, or pick another distro. stop asking the same question over and over00:32
[Saint_]Google is _constantly_ failing to correctly apply SSL2/TLS00:33
[Saint_]As is Mozilla, rather hilariously.00:33
lagboxeven facebook is a super heavy demand on your browser00:33
Guest28273because the OS only can have certain versions of firefox install only updates so high until it get ridiculous to install stuff plugins break and all kind of other shit that would be a waste of time for me to even try to figure out how to fix00:33
Ben64Guest28273: for the 42nd time, 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 is supported until 2019. pick one of them, or pick another distro. stop asking the same question over and over00:33
[Saint_]lagbox: that's mainly because its trying to suck your history out of every other site you've got an active session cookie for. ;p00:33
lagboxhehe00:34
lagboxi would imagine the older versions are getting some backporting00:34
[Saint_]said user seems to be missing the point of what LTS means entirely.00:34
[Saint_]And/or inventing reality00:34
Guest28273If I uses 14 will it run or be to slow on an AMD Athlon XP 1500+ . memory 512 MB00:35
OerHeksGuest28273, get Xubuntu for such ancient hardware00:35
lagboxdont use unity00:35
lagboxand dont use a 3d desktop00:35
[Saint_]Anything'll run slow on such hardware, really.00:35
Guest28273if not will 12 do anything significantly better ... I mean 10 lucid seems to be medium speed already00:35
[Saint_]You'd have to have some form of VERY minimal setup for that to not run like a bag of crap.00:35
lagboxthere are ways to gain performance on older systems but that is a process00:35
[Saint_]LXDE+openbox, or even perhaps solely openbox.00:35
lagboxlots of tweaking00:35
[Saint_]Even LXDE is probably too heavy for 512MB RAM00:36
lagboxwindow maker :)00:36
Guest28273Well of course I will turn off monitor features to speedup things but other then that I cann\t manipulate much more even if I in large swap space it is not going to speed anything up :)00:36
[Saint_]On a system with that little CPU and RAM, I wouldn't even consider trying to run a GUI.00:36
lagboxyea you will hit a limit00:36
Guest28273will the monitor toning it down be enough00:36
lagboxmake sure it has a decent graphics card if your worried about video00:37
lagboxthat processor wont handle software decompression very well i would imagine00:37
[Saint_]With an Athlon XP 1500+ and 512MB RAM, I sincerely doubt it has decent graphics capabilities.00:37
lagboxi mean video decoding00:37
[Saint_]Likely some embedded chipset cruft.00:37
lagboxi have boxes that have those specs but they are headless00:37
Guest28273fuck this old hardware shit I have had enough mucking with and fixing this shit to the point of ridiculousness I still have more then 10 year old computers running fine but laptops suck my dick00:38
lagboxlaptops can be a pain because they are already slower00:38
Guest28273right00:38
Ben64Guest28273:  hey, that language is not appreciated in this channel00:38
Guest28273well I am going to give it a try at least00:38
lagboxi literally bought a refurb 2 years ago this time for $300 that is a beast of a laptop00:38
[Saint_]If you buy a crap laptop...it'll be a crap laptop.00:39
[Saint_]A craptop.00:39
lagboxwhen i mean beast i mean good00:39
[Saint_]There are, however, laptops that vastly excede most consuer desktops of the day.00:39
[Saint_]You get what you pay for.00:39
Guest28273At the vary least I can at least download the newest tar of firefox and uses that with out the plugin features most of the other features will work just not video/flash things00:40
[Saint_]*consumer00:40
lagboxexactly00:40
lagboxGuest28273, hopefully00:40
lagboxi guess it cant hurt to try00:40
lagboxturn off all services you dont need, etc00:40
[Saint_]Guest28273: is the expense prohibitive, or...what?00:40
Guest28273You get what you pay for well how about i get access to all the companies and make everything from scratch with a few people helping here and there don't need much just access and time to thing00:41
[Saint_]There's very little good reason to be running hardware that is a decade old in this day and age.00:41
lagboxGuest28273, would be nice00:41
[Saint_]Well...there's nothing stopping you from doing that. One can buy generic laptop cases the same as they can PC cases.00:42
[Saint_]I've built all my laptops based on requirement.00:42
[Saint_]You can too.00:42
lagboxyes you can build your own .... it just doesn't seem to be cheaper00:42
Guest28273I still don't get how people define a persons worth by money smarts strength "NATURAL" will I have to say pound for pound nobody comes closes00:42
[Saint_]Oh, no, certainly not.00:42
Guest28273well except maybe a few00:42
* [Saint_] fails to parse that00:42
[Saint_]It was just a random jumble of words00:42
lagboxGuest28273, yes we have a crazy society where our self worth is skewd00:42
lagboxbut back to ubuntu00:43
gaci don't think anyone here is defining you based on money - we're just curious why you're persevering with such old hardware which is already frustrating you right now, and is only going to get worse00:43
Guest28273ya if I had access to everything then maybe people would see that I can do there work just as good as them00:43
lagboxGuest28273, and i would like to see you have that oppurtunity00:43
[Saint_]gac: well said00:43
gacif computing is important to you, as it seems to be, it's worth investing a little in00:43
[Saint_]no one is defining you as anything, Guest28273.00:44
[Saint_]We're just wondering why you're keeping decade old hardware alive for seemingly no reason.00:44
gaci wish I could run the same computer I had 10 years ago - if I want a good experience then I can't, and I have to deal with that with occasional upgrades00:44
[Saint_]Which is a valid question.00:44
gac"such is life"00:44
lagboxim not better because i have a newer laptop, that would be silly and immoral00:44
FilthyMacNastyI got a cloud of old crap computers people dropped off at ny computer shop00:44
Ben64can you move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic00:44
[Saint_]...a please would be nice.00:45
lagboxi know this has been answered im sure ... is it possible to test out mir yet on 14.10 ?00:45
Guest28273well working when I am at my best not when I am pissed off or using 10/20% ish of my ability00:45
lagboxor are we still that far off00:46
[Saint_]lagbox: its been possible for roughly a year00:46
[Saint_]longer, I think.00:46
Guest28273the whole point of this question is irrelevent I had the means to figure it out if I really wanted to hell I have computers that are like 13 years old running fine I don't think I would have to much problems figuring this out problem is it gets as boreing here with nothing to do00:47
lagboxgotcha00:47
FilthyMacNastydon't feel bad, my mail server still runs dapper drake00:47
Guest28273so I like getting the people going lol00:47
gac6.06; that seems...brave00:48
lagboxnoice00:48
FilthyMacNastyit's never been blacklisted for getting pwned00:48
OerHekslagbox, the closest thing you can get to even trying the Mir/Unity 8 combination is a special ISO build called Ubuntu Desktop Next. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/is-mir-and-convergent-desktop-hampering-the-development-of-ubuntu/00:48
lagboxOerHeks, thanks00:48
lagboxand i love that title00:49
[Saint_]errr, that's not even remotely true.00:49
[Saint_]We've been able to run a Mir preview you an age.00:49
[Saint_]bah. damn autocomplete00:49
OerHeksit is pointing to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ and should seek support in #ubuntu+100:49
[Saint_]see: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html00:50
[Saint_]that's been a possibility since...jeez, 13.04?00:50
lagboxi would rather them have had mir ready for desktop instead of worrying about mobile00:51
[Saint_]lagbox: makes more sense for them to work out the kinks on the smaller platform00:52
[Saint_]it'll get there.00:52
[Saint_]slowly.00:52
[Saint_]As most things Ubuntu do.00:52
FilthyMacNastyit will either work or die00:53
[Saint_]Many would argue it is dead already but Ubuntu is just overly persistent with flogging a dead horse.00:53
* [Saint_] shrugs00:53
lagboxindeed00:53
lagboxthanks for the info00:53
FilthyMacNastythey dumped that ubuntu one idea like a hot rock00:54
lagboxnow back to playing with drivers to get off of fglrx00:54
[Saint_]Well, in all seriousness, Ubuntu One was largely irrelevant.00:55
[Saint_]No reason to concentrate on a cloud storage platform when many other players are vastly better at it than you are.00:56
[Saint_]One of the few times Ubuntu seems to have admitted an irrelevancy instead of forcing it and beating it into the ground.00:56
reisioI thought that was all Canonical did00:57
Ben64!ot00:57
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:57
FilthyMacNastyI built a 4tb owncloud and it does my shop fine00:57
reisioFilthyMacNasty: how does owncloud abstract the hardwre?00:58
reisiohardware*00:58
FilthyMacNastysorry to sound silly but abstract the hardware? it runs on 14.04 like a dream01:00
reisiothe only theoretically quantifiable aspect of 'cloud' is abstracted hardwre, the rest is 100% marketing nonsense :p01:01
elegantanybody?01:01
reisiohardware*01:01
reisioelegant: ?01:01
Ben64elegant: anybody what01:01
elegantcan we speak chinese?01:01
GanjaRHas anyone here used TCHunt before?????01:02
FilthyMacNastynah, we americans arranged it in world war 2 that you dont speak japanese01:02
Ben64elegant: this channel is English only, but you can join #ubuntu-cn01:02
elegantgot01:03
reisioelegant: /msg alis list *ubunt*zh01:03
reisioelegant: /msg alis list *ubunt*cn01:03
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elegantok  thank you01:04
elegantall people in this channel all use ubuntu ?01:06
Guest28273so why does the new ubuntu 14 have the same issues of not being to install a flash plugin or html5 plugin/extension to work with youtube cann';t play anything on youtube with firefox01:06
reisioelegant: no, just a majority01:06
reisioGuest28273: I don't believe it has01:06
Guest28273that is for firefox01:06
reisioGuest28273: what is for?01:06
reisioGuest28273: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash01:06
OerHeksGuest28273, what videocard?01:07
Guest28273so firefox now cann't listen to music or play flash based website what kind of fucking shit is this01:07
OerHekssingle core and flash is a pain yes01:07
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Guest28273intel second generation core processor family integration graphics controller01:09
gjohi, i need help with unity after upgrade to 14.1001:10
BlackDalekHow do I stop cached version of video clip being inserted into Impress slide?01:10
daftykinsGuest28273: 1) keep the language family friendly in here place 2) the above is pasted/typed out of context01:11
Guest28273there is no flash for firefox to uses on this  no plugin because of the video being not supported or something for the graphics card ? well is there at least away to get the audio on youtube work or is the audio card to slow to01:11
EriC^^gjo: what's the problem?01:12
gjoicons do not appear after logon.01:12
gjosee System program problem detected window01:12
daftykinsGuest28273: i believe you can install chrome's pepperflash01:13
Guest28273firefox and youtube/flash plugins/extension newest browser runs fine on new os on old hard ware but plugins aren't there and01:13
gjoi can click the report problem button01:13
gjothen what?01:14
EriC^^gjo: there is a show details button01:14
EriC^^gjo: try to reset compiz dconf reset -f /org/compiz01:14
EriC^^gjo: then type setsid unity01:15
Guest28273my ass not in the main repo why does this have to be difficult because people like to fuck with me thats there hole purpose cann't ever go easy01:15
gjoi do not see show details button01:15
xangua!language | Guest2827301:15
gjoall windows are gone01:15
gacGuest28273: no one is doing anything with you but yourself. you're using an unsupported OS, on a computer which really should be retired01:15
gacthere's nothign anyone in this channel can do about that01:15
gjoi tried to reset compiz but that did not work01:16
EriC^^gjo: try to login using the guest account01:16
Triple1Truthhello01:16
gjologging in with guest session now01:17
gjoi see background01:17
reisioTriple1Truth: hi01:17
EriC^^gjo: so it's the same?01:19
gjoyes01:19
gjocontrol-alt-t does not start  terminal window01:19
Triple1Truth#dingux01:20
EriC^^gjo: ok, are you using unity?01:20
gjocontrol-alt-f1 works but get msg about DISPLAY not set01:20
gjoyes, trying to use unity01:20
EriC^^gjo: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop01:20
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gjoapt-get running now01:21
Michael_Hi. I'm working on manually starting the network on Ubuntu 12.04 (getting rid of NetworkManager). If somebody already knows how to do that and is willing to share his knowledge, then I'd be grateful for help.01:21
gjosetting up ubuntu-desktop ... complete01:22
EriC^^gjo: ok, try to login01:22
zykotick9Michael_: /etc/network/interfaces is your friend01:22
Michael_zykotick9: but it's not sufficient.01:22
daftykinsMichael_: how do you figure?01:23
nownotlooking for something to run on my server that will allow me to stream porn to my ipad using live video live bitrate streaming converstion stuff.01:24
FilthyMacNastyvideowhisper and red501:24
nownotplex works good but i can hide folders01:24
sacarlsonMichael_ also to shutdown network-manager has been tricky at times  with service network-manager -stop ;01:25
Michael_daftykins: Once I tried that with help of people in this forum. I can't exclude that something was done wrong. For the time being I am killing the processes in order to see which are actually responsible for networking. Perhaps I will examine the source codes later.01:25
Michael_sacarlson: I want to have networking starting automatically without NetworkManager, that's the whole point.01:25
Michael_automatically at boot, of course.01:25
daftykinsMichael_: may i suggest that it'd make a lot more sense to share the config file with us so we can see if it was made wrong? also you don't volunteer any info as to why it went wrong?01:25
sacarlsonMichael_ you don't need network-manager to autostart  networks  that can still be done in /etc/network/interfaces01:26
Michael_I have DHCP/NAT. I will share this configuration, where's this page where I should paste the links?01:27
Michael_As to why it went wrong, I don't exactly remember.01:27
sacarlsonMichael_ to override auto you can use ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 ;   or setup scripts to change things after boot01:27
daftykins!paste | Michael_01:29
ubottuMichael_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:29
gjorestarted pc ... logged on ... System program problem discovered01:29
Michael_aha, but why it went wrong, the point is that I need authorization, but I don't want to have X-es running, I want to start networking in purely console environment, I didn't know how to do that, I tried to call NetworkManager applets from fluxbox to be nearer the approach, but it was of no use01:29
sacarlsonMichael_ if you want a full example you can look at my software that is published https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage  that set everything with no network-manager01:29
EriC^^gjo: do the icons appear?01:30
gjoappears to be same issue.  no icons or windows01:30
EriC^^gjo: ok, type lspci -v | grep VGA01:30
sacarlsonMichael_ my software is also fully tested in ubuntu-server edition01:30
Michael_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740277/01:30
gjoVGA compatible controller   AMD/ATI  turks radeon hd 667001:31
gjo(prog-if 0001:32
EriC^^gjo: ok, type sudo lshw -C video | grep driver01:32
Triple1TruthWill a geforce gt 640 hold up in ubuntu? im a gamer, but i will upgrade the gpu later i just want to know if it will really be compatible01:32
daftykinsMichaelC: yes that's a terrible and incomplete config01:33
Triple1Truththe amd radeon hd 7660d cant run half the xubuntu wine games due to compatiblity01:33
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gjodriver=fglrx_pci latency=001:33
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Michael_accidentally killed quassel01:34
daftykinsMichaelC: sorry bad highlight01:34
EriC^^gjo: try to install the open source driver01:34
TheRoaringGirlhello01:34
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daftykinsMichael_: bad config, incomplete too. here's my suggestion - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740291/01:34
EriC^^!find fglrx01:35
ubottuFound: fglrx-pxpress, fglrx, fglrx-amdcccle, fglrx-amdcccle-updates, fglrx-core01:35
gjook, how?01:35
Michael_daftykins: this config's been made with Ubuntu. And it works.01:35
TheRoaringGirlI need som help with setting up the audio01:35
EriC^^gjo: remove the fglrx one first01:35
daftykinsMichael_: this'll still be lacking DNS too, so you would need resolvconf removed and to hardcode DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf01:35
EriC^^gjo: type dpkg -l | grep fglrx01:35
Michael_daftykins: will the "static" configuration work?  My IP's assigned by DHCP01:35
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gjoi see several lines after that01:36
daftykinsMichael_: you would not be online with what's in that file, there's not enough there. so something else weird must be going on with your config. i think network manager is still working in your seutp01:36
EriC^^gjo: anything that stands out? do they all start with fglrx?01:36
Triple1TruthIf someone named Atrius ever joins any server, stay away from him01:36
Michael_daftykins: Of course it's working, I said that I'm working on disabling it, not that I'm done with this work.01:37
gjofglrx fglrx-amdcccle -core -updates -updates-core01:37
daftykinsMichael_: no that is not a complete config :)01:37
gjo5 lines01:37
Michael_daftykins: I don't understand you. I don't know if it's complete or not. The config's just like that and networking works (with NetworkManager).01:38
Michael_daftykins: and I didn't create it.01:38
EriC^^gjo: ok, try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*01:38
sacarlsonmichael_ first error:  you didn't add auto eth0:0  to autostart network01:38
daftykinsMichael_: yeah i'm not quite following you either. can you pastebin "ifconfig -a" ?01:38
sacarlsonMichael_ next I'm not sure why you are using eth0:0 as a device as that's virtual but I guess that's optional but I think you still need to bring up the real one before a virtual can be added.01:39
Michael_Hey. *I didn't change the configuration yet*.01:39
Michael_http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740316/01:40
Michael_brb01:40
gjook, removing fglrx code now01:40
sacarlsonMichael_ next: you don't have a gateway setting in your network. unless you don't plan to  have wan access and you have no other subnets, you will need one.  see here for an example http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/01:40
daftykinssacarlson: please don't jump in on something i'm already working on. you'll just confuse the user.01:41
daftykinspay more attention to the channel's flow.01:41
gjotime to reboot?01:41
gjosaw update-initramfs...01:41
sacarlsondaftykins: normaly when I see facts that come from two sources and they somewhat match that is a plus not a minus01:42
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daftykinssacarlson: you're treading on my toes.01:42
EriC^^gjo: ok01:43
toan__lasdfq01:45
sacarlsondaftykins: also if you see me put out data that is incorrect I will be glad to researh it and verify if I am right or wrong as that's how I learn01:45
daftykinsMichael_: so eth0 isn't even your active interface01:45
gacsacarlson: i think you'd be better researching it on your own system instead of giving the instructions to someone else and potentially breaking their box ;)01:46
noarkhello evryone01:46
[Saint_]sacarlson: I got similar treatment earlier - its best to just go with it.01:47
[Saint_]Smile and nod politely.01:47
noarki ask01:47
[Saint_]Let them have their fun.01:47
daftykinsgac +101:47
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EriC^^gjo: type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati01:49
[Saint_]This channel should operate on a ticket system then. Take a number when you enter, then when your number is call3ed, precisely ONE person can assist you. No more, no less. Else the entire world breaks.01:49
[Saint_]If that seems ridiculous...its because it is.01:50
gjoreboot/ logged on/ no icons/ window "sorry ubuntu 14.10 as experienced an internal error"01:50
gjooh, did i reboot too soon?01:51
EriC^^gjo: did you install xserver-xorg-video-ati ?01:51
gjoi do see show details button now.01:51
gjono, not yet01:51
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Michael_daftykins, sacarlson: I'm not really following two of you. As far as I know NetworkManager calls wpa_supplicant and it's where the problem must be resolved. I'm gonna be careful cause once I uninstalled NetoworkManager and there was no way to have it back and running. For the time being I'm gonna kill almost all pids , see which ones relate to networking, then examining their source code and see what's actually going there. I will be then01:52
Michael_able to start it by hand. You're speaking something about my configuration being incomplete, but I didn't even touch it, can you explain what you exactly mean?01:52
BlackDalekHow do I stop cached version of video clip being inserted into Impress slide?01:53
gjoinstalled xserver-xorg-video-ati ... xserver-xorg-video-ati is already at newest version01:53
Ben64Michael_: this is a wireless network you're trying to connect to without a network manager?01:53
daftykinsMichael_: never mind, never asked if it was wireless.01:53
Michael_yes, it's wireless.01:53
EriC^^gjo: ok, what does the error say btw?01:54
daftykinsMichael_: so if you want to use a static IP, use network manager to specify it, it'll be hair-tearing-out-painful to try and use the interfaces file01:54
Ben64Michael_: you should have lead with that information. wireless is not trivial to get working from cli only01:54
gjoexec path xorg01:54
gjowilling to do additional debugging work?01:55
gjoyes?01:55
EriC^^ok01:55
Michael_sorry, I got so used to it that for a moment I even forgot that there're other ways. OK, I think that for the time being I'll be better to do the job on my own. I'll share the results with you if I'm successful.01:55
gjopath  /ussr/bin/Xorg01:56
gjoPackage xserver-xorg.core01:56
zykotick9Michael_: while it _is_ possible to use wireless with interfaces, personally i use wicd-curses...01:56
gjoprob type: crash01:56
Michael_I don't care if it's with interfaces or not. I wanna have it running, that's all.01:56
gjothere is much more ... not sure what is helpful01:57
Ben64Michael_: why do you want to not use network manager01:57
Michael_Ben64: because I don't know how to have it running without X-es01:57
Ben64what is X-es01:58
daftykinsMichael_: you're better off booting in, let NM configure it, then drop to TTY and stop X if you must01:58
EriC^^!find xserver-xorg-core01:58
ubottuFound: xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-core-dbg01:58
Michael_daftykins: why??01:58
EriC^^!info xserver-xorg-core01:58
ubottuxserver-xorg-core (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - core server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 1367 kB, installed size 4233 kB01:58
daftykinsMichael_: because of how bad it is to configure wireless interfaces by hand01:59
daftykinsor via the interfaces file.01:59
[Saint_]Michael_: because apparently being different scares people01:59
daftykins!fud | [Saint_]01:59
ubottu[Saint_]: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt01:59
EriC^^gjo: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core01:59
jon1223Would anyone be willing to help me with a 14.04 SLI issue?  I just reinstalled ubuntu, but my issue is persisting.  Every time I try to log in, I get a brief black screen, and then I get kicked back to the login page.01:59
Michael_daftykins: it must be possible. If it's possible to start it in GUI, then it must be possible to do it with cli. And the only thing which we need is the ability to read the source code, which is, thankfully, open, and I have this.02:00
gjoxserver-xorg-core 2:1.16.0-1ubuntu102:00
sacarlsonMichael_ daftykins:  oh wpa_supplicant  I have set that up without network-manager before in both scripts and in /etc/network  I'll show you the needed links to set something like that up02:00
gacFWIW, I've never used the -curses variant, but I've had good experience with the gui version of wicd02:00
gacit's not the only way, but it's almost certainly the easiest02:00
gacso if you only care about the end result...02:00
daftykinsMichael_: at no point did i say it was impossible, i said it was awkward.02:00
[Saint_]Which is FUD in itself02:01
[Saint_]...but hey.02:01
sacarlsondaftykins: it's easy02:01
daftykins[Saint_]: your comments are not welcome here. take it elsewhere.02:01
Michael_sacarlson: https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage ?02:01
[Saint_]Right. Because trying to railroad someone into your way of thinking is /so/ much better.02:01
[Saint_]Jesus.02:01
daftykinssacarlson: stop highlighting me please02:02
Ben64[Saint_]: stop with the nonsense comments in this channel02:02
daftykins[Saint_]: i don't see you helping so keep it to yourself thanks.02:02
gjo1 reinstalled02:03
EriC^^gjo: try to logout and log back in02:03
gjologging in again02:04
gjono icons02:05
gjocan see background image now02:05
gjoable to right click on background now02:05
gjologout ... i need to control-alt-backspace for that02:06
sacarlsonmichael_  mini-isp is just an example setup of a network setup that doesn't use network-manager  that can run on a server or full desktop.  but your complications with wifi don't apply to that02:06
jon1223Wait, i'm a moron, nevermind about my question.  pebkac.02:08
[Saint_]sacarlson: He bailed.02:08
sacarlson[Saint_]: yes noted thanks02:08
EriC^^gjo: does the system error still appear?02:09
gjorestarted ... system error not seen ... rebooting now02:09
gjodid not see any icons, either02:10
EriC^^gjo: try the guest account02:10
jwashhi everyone i'm trying to make a script to configure my system after i boot from a cd. changing the audio output is one of my tasks. i can do it via the pulseaudio gui, but i want to do it via command line. here is a before and after of my 'pactl list short sinks' http://apaste.info/4pF . how do i write the command correctly, this command generates an error saying failed to set sink to port ... 'pacmd set-sink-port 2 hdmi-stereo'02:11
gjosigh... time for new graphics card?  waiting for reboot to complete02:11
FilthyMacNastywhat is the last thing it says before it hangs on reboot?02:12
EriC^^gjo: i think it's a software issue02:13
gjoreboot spontaneously restarted ....02:13
FilthyMacNastycould add acpi=off to grub02:13
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gjologging on now02:15
EriC^^gjo: ok02:16
gjologged on ... no icons ... no sys error msgs02:16
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gjobrb02:23
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Allure_Love /msg NickServ identify asd!@#$ zz1253649236@gmail.com02:26
sarthorusing ubuntu, how to enable "sendto" option in right click menu? HELP. nautilus sendto pakage installed but no "sendto" option.02:27
sarthor 02:27
Ben64Allure_Love: you should change your password now02:27
Allure_Lovethank you i submit wrong02:27
thinkSplit log off now02:28
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VelocdAnyone here using blackbuntu?02:36
MDTech-us_MANhello02:36
Ben64Velocd: probably not, and it isn't supported here02:37
MDTech-us_MANwhat is the best bandwith-consious way to mount a directory on a remote computer to some folder?02:38
VelocdJust checking02:38
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Ben64MDTech-us_MAN: whichever you like, nfs, sshfs, samba02:39
MDTech-us_MANis there a "preffered" way?02:39
MDTech-us_MANI am mainly worried about bandwith here02:39
MDTech-us_MANso it would be nice if it compresses stuff before sending02:40
daftykinsi think you mean throughput, not bandwidth02:41
daftykinsand why does it matter so?02:41
MDTech-us_MANone of the VPS that will have a bandwidth limit02:41
kahtahs_does Ubiquity in trusty put the bootloader automatically in the mbr when one manual partitions or should one explicitly leave space unallocated in the beginning?02:41
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: sorry I've never really compared bandwidth much.  I've used ssh and samba that seem to be about the same02:41
daftykinsget a better allowance on that VPS02:41
MDTech-us_MANI am planning to move away from that VPS company entirely02:42
MDTech-us_MANthey are too expencive02:42
MDTech-us_MANand they have service interruptions02:42
Ben64MDTech-us_MAN: if you want stuff compressed you can do that over a compressed ssh session02:42
Ben64not going to have much of an effect on most files though02:43
MDTech-us_MANwhy?02:43
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: I just prefer ssh as it provides easy access to any point of a system02:43
Ben64most stuff is already about as small as it can get02:43
MDTech-us_MANhmm ok02:43
MDTech-us_MANis there a guide or someother literature where I can learn about mounting a directory over compressed SSh02:44
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: ya like ben64 states most is already compressed like video is compressed02:44
MDTech-us_MANtext can be compressed02:45
Ben64it really isn't going to be worth the trouble and cpu time to do that02:45
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: ya but text is normaly already small compared to bw02:45
linus_sHello02:45
linus_sWho here is using ubuntu in a windows VM box?02:45
MDTech-us_MANtrue.....02:45
MDTech-us_MANme!02:45
linus_sNice02:45
linus_sare you using VMware?02:45
MDTech-us_MANon some of my pcs yes02:46
sacarlsonlinus_s: sorry I use it the other way windows in vm box on linux host02:46
MDTech-us_MANthe rest have vbox02:46
linus_sdo u know how I can succesfully and easily access my windows drive partitions?02:46
linus_sfor example I want to try out some linux photo management software02:46
Avichello, i have installed lxde in ubuntu  that is in a server, if great, but i noticed that i can't copy/paste from the window of the server to my pc and from the lxde to my pc :-((( isthere a way to make this happen ...02:46
Ben64linus_s: are you using vmware02:46
linus_sI need it to detect my other drives02:46
MDTech-us_MANfirst install the tools02:47
linus_syes I am on VMware workstation02:47
Ben64linus_s: then you'll need to check the vmware documentation02:47
MDTech-us_MANI know02:47
linus_sok I'll check out the tools02:47
MDTech-us_MANthe tools will help alot with all stuff02:47
sacarlsonlinus_s: oh vmware I never tried but on virtual box it's cool with the added guest extra package you can share bettween host any directory and cut and paist is integrated02:48
Avicall the work customizing the desktop unviornment... and cant copy paste...02:48
MDTech-us_MANthey sacarlson, its the same for vmware02:48
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: cool but virtualbox is free and vmware is $$02:48
MDTech-us_MANtrue02:48
sacarlsonI be pooe boy02:49
Ben64Avic: get a remote desktop client that supports that02:49
MDTech-us_MANI bout ESX02:49
MDTech-us_MAN*bought02:49
linus_sMDTech-us_Man just to clarify02:49
MDTech-us_MANyes02:49
linus_sdo you remember if it was tools installed INSIDE of the linux VM or outside in my windows OS?02:49
MDTech-us_MANtools are ofcourse installed on the guest OS02:49
linus_sok just checking02:49
linus_sthanks again02:49
Avicvnc viewer... dont suport it...02:50
after_rI have this problem where sometimes my mouse wheel scroll event is ignored for the first "click" ... like when switch from firefox to another app, and switch back to firefox, the first mouse wheel click is ignored??02:50
MDTech-us_MANno problemo02:50
MDTech-us_MANhe left...02:50
MDTech-us_MANback to my question02:51
MDTech-us_MANwhat is the best and easiest way and most efficient resource wise02:51
Ben64rsync02:51
daftykinsi think you should just get a decent VPS02:51
after_rit seems the problem is not only with firefox but with other apps like nautilious02:52
sacarlsonMDTech-us_MAN: oh yes rsync that would be best if  you have parts already on the other side02:52
reisioMDTech-us_MAN: tar -cJf foo.tar, then copy it over02:52
reisiowell, foo.tar.xz :p02:52
reisioor tar -czf foo.tar.gz for not quite so nightmareish a time compressing02:52
after_ranyone? i will just post in the forums02:54
reisio?02:54
after_rI have this problem where sometimes my mouse wheel scroll event is ignored for the first "click" ... like when switch from app to another app, and switch back to app, the first mouse wheel click is ignored??02:55
sacarlsonafter_r: I don't use that center mouse wheel botton so never missed it02:55
SchrodingersScatcould the first wheel click be giving the window focus?02:56
sacarlsonafter_r: oh the scrool,  well then I just keep spinning it until it moves02:56
SchrodingersScatnot on my machine02:56
after_r:/02:56
Avicsomething was wrong somehow, i restarted ans now its funcional :-D love lxde... :_DDD02:59
Avicgn02:59
dale_hi, how do I use clamTk to scan folders in folders as well as files in folders?03:00
SchrodingersScatdale_: check the manual, -r should be recursive, ie directories of directories03:00
sacarlsondale_: I would think that would be the default recursive03:01
dale_thanks03:01
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sacarlsonSchrodingersScat: darn you beet me ha ha03:01
SchrodingersScatsacarlson: also, that doesn't seem to be default03:03
igoryonya_hello, why, when I do sudo ifup p6p1, I get: Ignoring unknown interface p6p1=p6p1.03:03
fantumcoidexhey anyone know of  a way to get feagrouter to install03:04
Ben64igoryonya_: what are you trying to do03:04
sacarlsonSchrodingersScat: see bad info from me AGAIN.  lucky I said I would think, but I didn't think03:04
igoryonya_Bend64, bring up the interface p6p1 and bring it down, when I need it, using ifdown03:05
SchrodingersScatsacarlson: you can test, I made a /tmp/test and then populated it with empty files, including directories with empty files.  clamscan seems to go at least one directory deep if you glob with *03:06
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Ben64igoryonya_: well it seems you don't have a p6p1 interface03:08
sacarlsonSchrodingersScat: I am confident and trust you are correct03:08
Michael_It's me again, thank you for your help, I've managed to set up console networking with wicd-curses, it's awesome ! :)03:08
sacarlsonigoryonya_: what did they do change your ifconfig's03:09
igoryonya_Ben64, but it shows up in 'lshw' in network section, also in 'ifconfig -a' and in 'ip addr'03:09
sacarlsonMichael_ I didn't even know there was a wicd-curses  sounds cool03:10
sacarlsonMichael_ does it save after reboot?03:10
Michael_sacarlson: saved me debugging at least :)03:10
sacarlsonMichael_ well lucky you didn't listen to me then it would have taken longer03:10
Michael_sacarlson: yes, I checked that. Just it is necessary to service network-manager down. And you have to configure your wireless and save the password in this program, otherwise it won't run.03:11
igoryonya_sacarlson, because, since, in ubuntu 14.04, (service or /etc/init.d/) networking (stop|start|restart) stopped working, I have to resort to using ifdown -a; ifup -a, but p6p1 shows that error, when I try to bring it up.03:11
sacarlsonMichael_ this is what my plan was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136  would have been way more complicated03:11
Michael_(by configuring your wireless I mean that you just have to press C - which is key for configuration in wicd, and then you type the password in the appropriate field, at least it worked for me).03:12
Mightcould3hello everyone, offtopic channel seems dead :(03:13
Michael_sacarlson: I once tried that and it worked on Slackware but it didn't want to work on Ubuntu. I don't know why. Perhaps I was doing something wrong.03:13
sacarlsonigoryonya_: oh does sudo ifconfig p6p1 up ; bring it up then?03:13
sacarlsonMichael_ I have used that method with success but later just setup scripts to do it so I didn't have to make permanent changes to my system as wifi was always changing03:14
sacarlsonMichael_ but next time I need it I will look at your wicd method as I've always liked there wicd gui03:15
Michael_sacarlson: do you have a link to this script? I like reading such things, so if you're willing to share...03:15
igoryonya_sacarlson, it does, so, but then is there a way to do a it by a wildcard to restart all interfaces, similar to ifdown -a; ifup -a, I don't want to restart a server every time I change some network config.03:15
sacarlsonMichael_ I think it's in my older mini-isp files on github if you want to take a look at them03:16
Michael_sacarlson: thanks03:16
sacarlsonigoryonya_: I don't know,  I've never done it that way,  again I just wrote scripts to bring all the nics up and set them as needed03:17
sacarlsonigoryonya_: ifup and ifdown was developed after I learned stuf.  I did try ifup ifdown but it conflicted with my old ways so held back on using them03:18
ubuntuaddictedtest03:18
kahtahs_fdisk -l /dev/sda shows three partitions. even tho i only configured 2 in ubiquity. unknown new partition is the same size swap and positioned just before swap but id 5 not 8203:19
kahtahs_s/same size swap/same size as swap03:19
igoryonya_maybe anyone knows,  why ifup doesn't work for that interface, it works for others.03:19
sacarlsonigoryonya_: I think it's best to work on using ifup ifdown correctly if you don't have conflicts like me03:19
morsingHey guys, so - my system hangs on login and I am now forced to use "tty"? to do anything. I am pretty sure the problem is that I installed the ati-graphics thing from the software center, can anybody help me fix this? I am on 14.1003:19
lagboxyou installed the fglrx drivers ?03:20
ubuntuaddictedim trying to join another channel but it says can't join i need to be idetified by services03:20
morsing@lagbox Yeah03:20
lagboxubuntuaddicted, you need to register your nickname more than likely03:20
ubuntuaddictedlagbox, my nickname has been registered for forever03:20
ubuntuaddictedlagbox, how do i register again? guess i'll try again03:21
lagbox /m nickserv help03:21
lagboxsays it isn't registered03:21
sacarlsonigoryonya_: there is also this newer method to bring up devices ip link set dev eth0 up03:22
lagboxthey do get released if you dont identify for awhile03:22
sacarlsonigoryonya_: oh it could also be some need to edit preup scripts03:22
morsingI am thinking I can just remove the package, but i am a bit hindered when only using tty to do stuff. (googling is a bit difficult)03:22
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lagboxill see if i can get you the packages you need to reinstall03:24
igoryonya_sacarlson, I need a wildcard method, that will bring up or down all cards at once, without listing all interfaces individually, like ifup -a or ifdown -a does or mount -a for disks, for example.03:24
morsingI might also have forgot to remove the old ones, which I assume probably caused some problems too. But thanks!03:25
igoryonya_as it does while starting the computer03:25
lagboxmorsing, seems like a common issue03:25
sacarlsonigoryonya_: yes and those should work if /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart  is setup correctly03:25
morsingoh okay.03:26
lagboxyou can try purging fglrx and reinstalling it ... but i imagine you want to go to the open source drivers ?03:26
editionis there a stable graphics driver for the AMD/ATI cards?03:27
sacarlsonigoryonya_: maybe the scripts aren't setup to support that strange name of your device.  you will have to look at both scripts for up and down03:27
lagboxedition, depending upon the card and what features you need there are open source drivers and proprietary drivers03:27
morsingYeah, that will be fine now. I just couldn't get "direct rendering" when try to play games, so I wanted to try another driver.03:27
morsingI am on HD489003:27
lagboxmorsing, so you had a desktop before with fglrx working ?03:28
editionlagbox, OpenGL applications like flightgear have serious problems. The 'generic' driver isn't suitable for gaming.03:28
igoryonya_sacarlson, so ifup looks in /etc/network/if-up.d/ folder for bringing up interfaces?03:28
editionlagox: Would the non-free drivers be a better option?03:28
morsingI upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 using the built in thing, but suddenly steam complained about direct rendering.03:28
sacarlsonigoryonya_: yes and the script looks at all process that need to use nets when it does connect03:29
lagboxhonestly i can't stand fglrx03:30
lagboxi think its a pile of crap03:30
lagboxbut besides that ... you may need to use them depending upon the card03:30
lagboxand will probably have better results than me03:30
morsingHow do i purge it? dpkg? - but the oss drivers worked fine before, so I will just go back to those.03:30
lagboxmorsing, you can purge fglrx then you would have to reinstall xorg stuff and libmesa and that stuff03:31
igoryonya_lagbox, edition, opensource drivers for ati cards are to slow yet, they are still playing catch up to be feature complete as the proprietary drivers, so no time for speed optimization yet. so, for now, have to use proprietary drivers, if looking for performance.03:31
editionthanks03:31
igoryonya_edition, on amd.com site, you can download the ati drivers for linux.03:31
lagboxi have always had better results with the open source drivers03:31
lagboxbut then again i dont play games03:31
editionwell its more to do with graphics performance.03:32
editionbut gaming is important.03:32
igoryonya_lagbox, even gnome/unity and video players lag, when I tried to use opensource03:32
lagboxnot for me03:32
lagboxits the opposite03:32
lagboxfglrx is laggy03:32
lagboxopen source drivers were smooth as silk03:33
morsing@lagbox, i am pretty sure the mesa drivers are still there. Which might be the cause of my problems, unless fglrx uninstalled them. But they might have conflicted and now it is all fucked?03:33
lagboxmorsing, its possible03:34
igoryonya_sacarlson, thank you, I will look inside those files.03:34
sacarlsonigoryonya_: ok good luck and have fun03:35
morsingI think i will just try removing the fglrx drivers and see what happen, can't be worse than tty. Can you help me with the command?03:35
lagboxmorsing, yea i will find it ... just recovering from a graphical glitch that likes to lock up unity / compiz / chrome with these drivers03:36
morsing@lagbox Alright, thanks a lot.03:36
igoryonya_morsing, you might also have some nvidia drivers installed that conflict with ati drivers, I've had that problem before. Checked and uninstalled nvidia drivers and it started working. The reason, because I had an nvidia card before, the drivers left over.03:37
lagboxmorsing, did you see a message like this   Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0  ?03:38
morsingCan't remember, but it said some errors.03:38
morsingCan i find them again somewhere?03:39
sergio-br2Is this updated ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb203:39
sergio-br2"Default Build Options for Lucid"03:39
bray90820Is there a version of ubuntu for the raspberry pi03:41
daftykinsbray90820: no03:41
bray90820:(03:41
bray90820Any sort of debian for it03:42
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daftykinsbray90820: this is not #debian03:42
daftykinsbut yes i believe it's called raspbian03:42
bray90820Cool03:43
bray90820Thanks03:43
xanguabray90820: there are several PC on stick that comes with ubuntu if that is what you are looking for03:43
igoryonya_bray90820, I think you can install ubuntu on rasberry pi, if you install wayland instead of xorg., I might be wrong.03:43
bray90820I was actually gonna turn my raspberry pi into a tablet03:44
somsipigoryonya_: there is no version of ubuntu that runs on a pi. It's to do with the instruction set supported by the pi (arm6) and that required by arm ports of ubuntu (arm7) IIRC03:48
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igoryonya_somsip, what about the phone version of ubuntu?03:54
[Saint_]somsip: that's plainly untrue03:55
[Saint_]If you go back far enough, of course you can run Ubuntu on a pi.03:56
[Saint_]FWIW, I'm taking issue with the "no version" statement.03:56
[Saint_]As that is demonstrably untrue.03:56
[Saint_]No /current/ version, sure. I'll accept that.03:57
[Saint_]No version /period/, is quite wrong.03:57
somsip[Saint_]: give me one link03:57
somsipigoryonya_: it's a phone version, not a pi version03:58
[Saint_]somsip: jaunty and karmic will run on a pi.03:58
[Saint_]In theory.03:59
[Saint_]Ubuntu /did/ support ARM not so long ago.03:59
[Saint_]Ubuntu pissed and moaned about the raspberrypi and asked them to specifically stop staing it had compatibility.03:59
[Saint_]It was hilarious.03:59
somsip[Saint_]: so that's 9.1 which has been EOL for..how long? I disagree that is a solution.04:00
[Saint_]It still invalidates your claim, does it not?04:00
[Saint_]Saying otherwise is demonstrably untrue.04:00
somsip[Saint_]: but next time I say this to anyone here, I will add 'no current and supported version' - you're right on that04:00
minashokryhi everyone, after upgrading to 14.10 none of apps is able to use the laptop webcam, any clues where to start debugging or what to do?04:03
daftykins[Saint_]: i think you're failing to see the wood for the trees. the channel doesn't support EOL releases so your point is moot.04:03
sacarlsonyou can install ubuntu on rasbarry pi if you want to compile a system for arm6, and that can be done.  but easier to just port an app to debian and compile just your app if not already suported on debian04:03
[Saint_]daftykins: I think you're just being assinine, the point is valid.04:04
[Saint_]The statement "no version of Ubuntu for raspberrypi" is wrong. Period.04:05
daftykins[Saint_]: there's no need to get so personally attacking in here. this is a friendly channel meant to connect volunteers with people that have questions. rather than second guessing other volunteers, perhaps you could focus on actually helping people?04:06
sacarlson[Saint_]: I think there are just no supported binarry repository at this time, but you can compile it and we will support a none EOL compiled on rasberry pi04:06
[Saint_]So, correcting misinformation isn't helping people?04:07
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[Saint_]OP now knows it is indeed possible.04:07
[Saint_]If that's not a positive....04:07
daftykins*sigh*04:08
[Saint_]Yeah, you do that.04:08
daftykinsyou're not helping :) good night.04:08
editionthe acpi thermal sensor is reporting 91 Degrees!04:09
edition*my04:09
[Saint_]And your nitpicking is incredibly productive and doesn't make you seem like a jerk at all.04:09
[Saint_]Nope.04:09
sacarlsonwell hury up ask me your last questions as It's almost time to go fly my Phantom II quad copter with it's new fpv video tx and fatshark googles04:09
edition!op | [Saint_]04:09
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cfhowlett[Saint_], drop the attitude please.  no attacks needed and such behavior violates community standards04:10
editionhow can I cool down the CPU?04:10
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reisioedition: what for04:10
sacarlsonedition: put a fan on it04:10
lagboxclock it down04:10
cfhowlettedition, clean it04:10
editionyep. the fans going flat out.04:10
lagboxlaptop ?04:11
editionyes04:11
cfhowlettedition, don't let children/smokers/animals near it and clean your vents.04:11
sacarlsonedition: opps BIGGER fan04:11
lagboxamd/ati ?04:11
reisioas long as it isn't powering off, it's probably fine04:11
editionyes.04:11
lagboxhaha04:11
editionthat was a dangerous temperature.04:11
editionit was 93 degrees for a short time.04:12
lagboxyea that is a little high04:12
lagbox93 degC04:12
cfhowlettedition, C or F04:12
editionC04:12
lagboxC04:12
cfhowlettedition, smokin!04:12
lagboxthat is shutdown time04:12
cfhowlettedition, I would have expected it to shutdown long before it got that hot ...04:12
editioncan I check for damage?04:13
lickalottgents, for some reason I can't map my wifes laptop to any of my NFS shares and I can't figure out what it is that's preventing it.04:13
[Saint_]~100C is a usual thermal shutdown temp for modern CPUs.04:13
lickalottmy account works like a champ.04:13
[Saint_]~95C thermal limiting kicks in.04:13
cfhowlettedition, smell of smoke?04:13
lickalottshe's coming from a windows machine btw04:13
lagboxedition, honestly i would shut it down04:13
editionnot really, unusually :/04:13
sacarlsonedition: that thermocopler can't be correct.  we didn't even make military stuf run at 93C  55C max maybe 60C04:13
lagboxsacarlson, mine registers those temps as well04:13
minashokryhi everyone, after upgrading to 14.10 none of apps is able to use the laptop webcam, any clues where to start debugging or what to do?04:14
editionits dropped to 58 degrees04:14
sacarlsonlagbox: what's the command to see it?04:14
lagboxmine is 51 C at the moment04:14
editionanyway. How can i assess the damage?04:14
lagboxif i run it full with full graphics it will hit 90C04:14
edition(to my laptop cpu)04:14
lagboxprobably not really easily04:15
[Saint_]edition: assuming the reported temperature is correct, its largely capable of looking after itself. Unless you've diabled thermal limiting/shutdown at a BIOS level.04:15
lagboxto me its more about heat damage over time at that rate04:15
[Saint_]It'll take care of itself if it thinks its in danger.04:15
lagboxplus there are really fun things with ATI and these drivers and fans04:16
editionbut can I check if all the flags/features are still working?04:16
lagboxedition, i suppose you can check the cpu in proc04:16
editionthanks04:16
sacarlsonlickalott: paistbin /etc/exports   to start and what is being used on the client side?  fstab ?04:16
sacarlsonlickalott: and I assume the needed packages are installed04:16
editionis it possible to run the fan at a constant high speed?04:17
lagboxif you really wanted to04:17
editionhow04:17
lagboxthere are all kinds of odd flags you can pass at boot to the kernel depending upon which drivers you are using04:17
lagboxand there are some known issues with fans and having to set boot settings04:18
editionwhat sort of odd flags?04:18
lagboxyou would have to google it04:18
[Saint_]lm-sensors and fancontrol can do it.04:18
lagboxyou have to be careful04:18
[Saint_]it'll be _loud_ though.04:18
lagboxdont just play around04:18
edition:)04:18
lagboxsome of those will disable the fan04:18
edition\o/04:18
editionfire hazard.04:18
lagboxif there is software that will control that i would use that before playing with boot params04:19
[Saint_]install lm-sensors and run 'sensors' to get a wider view of what's ahppening with fan speed, C|GPU temp, chassis temp, disk temp, etc.04:19
[Saint_]its also your freind, and required, for fancontrol.04:20
[Saint_]But there's a great many ways to do this.04:20
lickalottsacarlson, yes.  My account works fine (from anywhere)04:20
lagboxplus the computer should be able to regulate the fan itself04:21
lagboxmore than likely you probably need to blow out the vents and make sure the laptop isn't directly on a surface04:21
[Saint_]Placement of the box can make a huge difference as well.04:22
[Saint_]If its just sucking the hot air its blowing out back in, you're gonna have a bad time.04:22
lagboxplus there is actually a different between notebooks and laptops04:22
lagboxdifference04:22
lickalottsacarlson, http://paste2.org/GPy6sMEF04:22
editionI blame HP.04:22
lickalottyou want FSTAB also?04:23
lickalottbtw:  thanks for taking the time04:23
[Saint_]Really? I thought notbook/laptop was largely interchangeable, and netbook was the one that should be differentiated against?04:23
[Saint_]But I suppose the usage varies by locality.04:23
JordanJ2Hi all, All my menu's text seemed to have turned black, can I reset this to white text?04:23
lagboxsome are not made to be directly put on surfaces that they can't easily vent04:24
cfhowlettJordanJ2, settings > appearance04:24
reisiothe only netbooks anyone sells anymore are chromebooks, and they don't call them netbooks04:24
reisioall some kind of laptop04:24
lagboxnot netbook04:24
editionok. Thanks for the help everyone. I'll have to shutdown the system for a while...04:25
lagboxi would recommend blowing out the vents04:25
editionlagbox: continue this conversation at #ubuntu-chat?04:26
JordanJ2cfhowlett: Where in there?04:26
[Saint_]Clean her out, sure. But its largely capable of looking after itself if you've not specifically disabled thermal limiting.04:26
lagboxsure04:26
cfhowlettJordanJ2, should be a selection of themes which = appearance.  experiement04:26
cfhowlett*experiment*04:26
JordanJ2cfhowlett: Don't see that..04:27
cfhowlettJordanJ2, might be a xubuntu thing ... I've never used unity ubuntu so I *could* be in error.  but you should have an appearance reset button somewhere.04:28
JordanJ2I have "Reset behavioural settings"04:28
JordanJ2But doesn't touch that04:29
SchrodingersScatJordanJ2: appearance settings refuses to always on top, but I'm in xubuntu 14.04 if that helps you at all.04:30
JordanJ2SchrodingersScat: Fixed04:31
sacarlsonlickalott: yes the fstab might help also,  I don't see anything outstandingly wrong in exports but it's been some time since I've played with nfs04:31
cfhowlettSchrodingersScat, as am I.  he said his colors reversed so I thought it must be "appearance": ...04:31
SchrodingersScatoops, i reversed that somehow04:31
lickalottk.  wait 1 sacarlson04:31
sacarlsonlickalott: also I'm already getting ready to go fly and go cook and eat breakfast so don't have much time but with that added info there should be others here that can also help04:32
lickalotthttp://paste2.org/ndzphtbn04:32
lickalotti ensured that the NFS client package was installed for windows.04:33
sacarlsonlickalott: more on the client side is needed fstab on the client or the method used to connect to nfs from client04:34
lickalottsorry...04:34
lickalottmount -o <IP>:/media/wolverine  (for example)04:34
sacarlsonlickalott: oh clients on windows,  can you test a client from a linux system?  I have no knoledge of windows setup for nfs04:35
lickalottit makes the connection fine.  Shows up under my computer, but when I double click on it from her computer it says permission denied04:35
lickalottyes sacarlson.  All my other clients work fine: With my account.04:35
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sacarlsonlickalott: other clients being on linux?04:35
lickalottboth flavors (*nix and winblows)04:35
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sacarlsonlickalott: then the problem is on the windows client side so I can't help you04:36
lickalottok.  thanks anyway!04:36
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lickalotthave a good flight04:36
sacarlsonlickalott: thanks and a good one to you04:37
[Saint_]lickalott: its UID based, do the client names on both sides match?04:38
lickalottyes04:38
[Saint_](recalling from hitting this issue myself a few moons ago)04:38
lickalottand same password04:38
[Saint_]Ah - well, that's my extremely short list of ideas exhausted. Sorry bud.04:38
lickalottthanks thought04:39
lickalott*though04:39
lickalotti'll keep mashing on the keys til it works.  :P04:39
* [Saint_] recently discovered what a hilariously bad idea UID based external storage for multi-user machines is04:40
[Saint_]I managed to go the better part of a decade without hitting an issue, because I'm very predictable, and use largely identical setups across my machines.04:40
[Saint_]I shook that up a bit, and changed the users around, and _everything_ fell over.04:40
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[Saint_]Easy to fix. But, annoying.04:41
marnihi04:42
marniAnyone there ?04:42
marnihey04:42
reisiohi04:42
marnican you help me04:43
marniive been stuck on this simple thing all day :(04:43
[Saint_]No one can help you until you tell them what's wrong. :)04:43
kalyanihello when i am xchat it is showing there was an error loading keybinding.confg message is coming and it is not loading previous messages04:43
marniI've done a whole days work of researching how to install a program on ubuntu.. so first I downloaded python.. unpackaged it from .tar.xz now its just python-3.4.2 then I navigated to the dir in terminal.. then ran the ./configure make make test sudo make install commands which took like 10 minutes on my ultra fast broadband .. scanning all the files etc.. now thats all finished how do I open python? it seems like nothing has changed ?04:43
kalyanisorry when i am opening xchat*04:44
reisiomarni: what program?04:44
marnipython04:44
somsipmarni: you want to install a non-standard version of python? Try the deadsnakes PPA04:44
marniive downloaded like 4 things and done the same thing .. but i dont know how to open any of them ?04:44
[Saint_]'python'04:44
marnii just need to know how to open a program on ubuntu haha04:44
reisiomarni: what version of ubuntu?04:44
marni14.0  i think04:44
marnithe latest one04:45
lagbox14.10 ?04:45
[Saint_]marni: open a terminal, and type 'python'04:45
marniokk04:45
[Saint_]Press Enter.04:45
marnihaha that was easy04:45
[Saint_]Yep. :)04:45
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[Saint_]Easy to miss, though.04:45
marnibut how do i create a new python IDLE?04:45
marniyeh haha ive been looking for an answer all day04:45
lagboxide ?04:46
lkthomasguys, is there have a way to force chmod 777 on any new directory created on specific folder ?04:46
lagboxsticky04:46
marniLike how do i create a new text editor for python04:47
marniso i can make my own script yknow /04:47
lkthomaslagbox: example ?04:47
kalyaniPlease help me.....when i am opening xchat it is showing error loading keybinding.confg and also when i am connecting to apertium it is not loading my previous messages04:47
reisiomarni: a GUI editor?04:47
marniyehh04:47
reisiomarni: gedit04:47
lagboxyou can download one04:47
marnigedit?04:47
lagboxgedit is a text editor04:47
marnifor python ?04:48
lagboxim sure you can get idle04:48
marnihttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Idle_gui.png04:48
marnilike that04:48
marnii want that04:48
ObrienDavekalyani, install hexchat. xchat is not maintained04:48
marnibut all i have is python in terminal -_-04:48
lkthomaslagbox: is it like chmod 1777 test ?04:48
[Saint_]marni: from the terminal 'idle python_project_name.py"04:49
[Saint_]where python_project_name is something you're supplying.04:49
lagboxidle is in the repo04:49
marniso i just enter idle python_project_name.py into terminal ?04:49
marnisays syntaxerror: invalid syntax04:49
marniwhats repo ? hahah04:50
marnijust got ubuntu confused shitless04:50
lagboxare you in a virtual terminal or do you have a desktop at the moment ?04:51
marniim in terminal04:51
[Saint_]Hmmmm...as far as I'm aware, that /should/ work. It works here. But my setup may be slightly different.04:51
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marniwhy cant i just double click an exe for python ?04:51
[Saint_]"idle project_name.py" will either launch project_name, or create it if it doesn't exist.04:51
marniis it like this for everything i download ?04:51
SASDOEcould someone highlight me please?04:52
ObrienDavemarni, exe are for windows. this is not windows04:52
lagboxwhich idle04:52
[Saint_]No. There's almost certainly a way to do this via a GUI, I just don't use any form of GUI, so I can't answer that.04:52
lagboxsorry ... command      which idle04:52
marniyeh i know so i have to do all this command shit for every program ?04:52
lagboxno04:52
[Saint_]No.04:52
marni:O04:52
marniim using this to learn btw04:52
marniim interested04:53
marnibut i just dont get it yet04:53
lagboxis idle even installed04:53
[Saint_]What I'm saying is it almost certainly is possible, I'm just not aware of it, as I don't use a desktop environment.04:53
marnishould be04:53
lagboxtype        which idle04:53
marniooh i was running script in python .. hold on04:53
[Saint_]heh.04:53
marniwhat do i type for idle again04:53
[Saint_]'idle name_of_the_project_you_want_to_open.py"04:53
[Saint_]It'll be created if it doesn't exist.04:54
marnithe program idle is not currently installed lol04:54
marniill sudo install hold up04:54
lagboxwhich version of python04:54
marni3.4.204:54
kalyaniok obriendave thank you04:55
[Saint_]You could also try pressing the Winkey to open the HUD and then search "IDLE"04:55
lagboxsudo apt-get install idle-python3        and hit tab to complete it04:55
marnioooh haha idle name_of_the_project_you_want_to_open.py" is just a variable04:55
marniok thanks it worked04:55
marniidle opened04:55
marniso ubuntu is all command based?04:56
[Saint_]No.04:56
lkthomaslagbox: sticky bit 2777 will cause all new subfolder as 777 permission ?04:56
lagboxgood old sticky bits04:56
marnibut the only way to open something is in terminal right ?04:56
[Saint_]No.04:56
ObrienDavemarni, there are 1000's of gui programs and 1000's of cli programs available04:57
marnii dont want them id rather use terminal04:57
marniso to open python every time i have to type into terminal right ?04:57
[Saint_]No. You can create a .desktop link for it if you desire.04:57
marnihow ?04:58
lagboxsorry im fighting my system locking up because of these pos fglrx drivers04:58
[Saint_]marni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles04:58
marnihow do i download gedit ??04:59
[Saint_]It is already installed.04:59
marnioo04:59
eronides"Adobe Flash Player Settings" dialog does not respond to mouse clicks04:59
[Saint_]Open the HUD and type 'gedit'04:59
marniso when it says this04:59
marniOpen your favourite text editor, like Gedit or nano, and type in (copy and paste):  [Desktop Entry] Version=x.y Name=ProgramName Comment=This is my comment Exec=/home/alex/Documents/exec.sh Icon=/home/alex/Pictures/icon.png Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility;Application;04:59
marnido i just open terminal ?05:00
marnioh right i see05:00
marnigedit is just a text editor05:00
lagboxeronides, common issue05:00
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[Saint_]You will obviously need to edit the example .desktop file to suit your personal requirements05:01
marniUnder program name what do i right ?05:01
marnijust Python05:01
[Saint_]If you simply copy and paste the content as is, it will not work.05:01
marnii know i changed the names to my user05:02
marniand i changed program name to Python05:02
marninow do i just save ?05:02
[Saint_]The page describes the function of each entry.05:02
lagboxeronides, theres all kinds of fun issues with flash in linux05:02
lagboxi cant wait for the day flash finally just dies and gets it over with05:03
lagboxive been waiting since the day it was released05:03
[Saint_]Slow adoption of HTML5 makes it unlikely to happen in the near future.05:03
lagboxi know05:04
lagboxit stinks05:04
[Saint_]The thing I'm really waiting for widespread adoption of is the celt/opus variable codec.05:04
[Saint_]But that's even more of a joke than HTML5 is.05:04
[Saint_]Its sad.05:04
marnipath is just to the python folder ?05:04
[Saint_]The amount of network throughput that would be saved by widespread adoption of opus and HTML5 is phenominal05:05
[Saint_]You'd think carriers, ISPs, and telcos, would be jumping at the opportunity to adopt opus and HTML505:06
[Saint_]But...nope.05:06
[Saint_]Its weird.05:06
marni[Desktop Entry] Version=3.4.2 Name=Python Comment=Scripting..for noobs Exec=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2 Icon=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2/Pc/pycon.ico Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility;Application;05:07
marniis this right05:07
[Saint_]That almost certainly isn't the executable directory of the python binary05:07
[Saint_]"which python3.4.2"05:08
[Saint_]That should give you the exact path to the executable05:08
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lagboxnah they dont mind ... it lets them claim they need to raise their prices05:08
marnioh what is the executable directory, thanks05:09
[Saint_]see above.05:09
[Saint_]I already answered that for you.05:09
eronideslagbox, how?05:11
lagboxhow what my friend ?05:12
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marniExec=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2/python05:13
marnidone thanks  saint !!05:13
marnicya everyone05:13
lagboxgood luck05:13
[Saint_]o/05:13
lagboxeronides, what version of ubuntu ?05:14
lagboxand besides there may or may not be a solution to that problem05:15
eronideslagbox, ubuntu 14.0405:15
lagboxi will have to load my browser up again and see if i have that issue as well05:15
it_anyone here05:15
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lagboxit_ nope05:16
it_m new to ubuntu.. using it live.. i wanted to know how could i customize it..05:16
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sacarlsonit_: there are tools to make custom iso files for ubuntu to add presinstalled packages or remove unneeded ones.  I'm not sure that's a good step for a beginner05:20
sacarlsonpeople must think I'm a speed typist or something??05:21
l0rdn1xeh?05:21
l0rdn1xsacarlson: use 'remastersys'05:22
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sacarlsonl0rdn1x: ya but it_ already left the room 20 secounds after asking the question not awaiting the answer05:23
sacarlsonl0rdn1x: don't you hate that?05:23
l0rdn1xsacarlson: yes05:24
SachiruQuery: For some reason, sudo apt-fast autoremove does NOT remove old kernel headers from my machine. Why is this?05:24
l0rdn1xsacarlson: they are worse in #elementaryos05:24
l0rdn1xsacarlson: they will stick around maybe 25 35 seconds05:24
SachiruAdd to that my inode count was 99%. Manually removing old headers and rebooting made that go down to 37%. What gives?05:25
sacarlsonl0rdn1x: they think we are computers like google that return requests in 1.2 secounds05:25
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l0rdn1xsacarlson: yeah I know what you mean lol05:26
ObrienDaveand remastersys has gone bye bye afaik05:29
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l0rdn1xObrienDave: I still have remastersys05:30
l0rdn1xI will have it forever ;)05:30
ObrienDaveyea, but the author quit developing it05:30
l0rdn1xYeah I know he kept getting trolled05:31
siloxidhow do I prevent "System Problem detected.  Do you want to report this problem now?" dialogs from popping up?  I get three every time I log in05:31
lagboxsiloxid, well you could fix the problem, that is one way05:31
lagboxbut i have a feeling as updates roll out that issue might get resolved05:32
* l0rdn1x has a sneaking suspicions that siloxid is using the unicorn lol j/k05:33
siloxidthey have been popping up for six months now.  I just want the dialog to go away.05:33
lagboxlook at the details and find out what is causing the problem05:33
siloxidthe system isn't doing anything horrid so I don't really see a point in the nagware-style dialogs05:34
lagboxbecause there was a problem05:34
siloxidreminds me of the early nineties shareware trend05:34
lagboxif we dont report software problems how do the developers know there is an issue ?05:34
siloxidyou report them silently without a stupid dialog popping up three times on login05:34
lagboxhow about you find the problem and fix it05:35
lagboxthen it will stop popping up05:35
l0rdn1xsiloxid: they have to let you know when your sending a bug report or it's a privacy violation.05:35
lagboxor do something crazy like remove apport or something05:35
siloxidl0rdn1x: yes.. you have a dialog that says "report system problems" with a yes or no button.  not rocket science05:36
lagboxthat is what we have05:36
ObrienDaveso, send the reports. not rocket science either05:36
l0rdn1xsiloxid: you have to be notified 'every' time they send data or it's a privacy violation.05:36
lagboxmaybe if you sent the damn report they may have fixed it by now ???05:37
siloxidno.  you have three dialogs that pop up saying "system problem detected".  if you click on "report problem" it takes you on a wild goose chase.  not nearly the same thing05:37
siloxidl0rdn1x: no, it isn't.  take a look at how iOS handles the same thing.  and chrome. and everything else05:37
lagboxthen use a mac05:38
ObrienDave*no feeding trolls*05:38
l0rdn1xsiloxid: just remove apport then05:38
siloxidlagbox: use a mac? are you serious?05:40
lagboxno im not .. im just done arguing with you05:41
siloxidlagbox: well that's good.  you weren't contributing anything to the conversation05:41
l0rdn1xsiloxid: we told you the solutions, you can try and fix the error by looking at the details, or you can remove apport05:41
fidelityhello05:43
l0rdn1xhi05:44
editionI have a camera that requires the SE401 driver. Is the module still part of the linux kernel?05:58
Ben64probably05:59
editionwhere?05:59
editionI couldn't find the SE401 module.06:00
Ben64i see a se401.h06:00
ShunyaHello06:02
ObrienDaveGreetings & Welcome06:02
ShunyaThanks06:02
editionBen64: where did you find the header file?06:02
ShunyaIn ubuntu can do like that... means... I select all my video files and can see how long it's...06:03
Ben64edition: /usr/src/...06:03
editionthanks06:03
l0rdn1xShunya: huh?06:03
Shunyal0rdn1x, I mean i select some video file and can see it's video time length06:04
ObrienDavethey want to know if there's a length column in file manager a-la windows06:04
Shunyayup06:04
Shunyai think duration is right word i mistaken06:05
l0rdn1xoh06:05
lagboxselect them all ... go to properties and maybe in the additional info ?06:05
ObrienDaveShunya, length or duration is fine :)06:05
editionse401.h is empty.06:05
editionbut anyway, there is no se401 library in the kernel.06:06
edition*system.06:06
Shunyathanks lagbox and ObrienDave06:06
Shunyafirst i need to restart my machine :)06:07
lagboxhehe i dont think properties will give that06:07
l0rdn1xnope it wont06:07
l0rdn1xlol06:07
lagboxah was worth a shot06:07
lagboxprobably need to put them all in some media gallery and have it do it06:07
l0rdn1xyep I think VLC will do it06:08
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ObrienDaveVLC will once it reads the file06:08
l0rdn1xWell now I am curious to find a command that does that so I probably will tomorrow lol06:08
lagboxi know my avis have audio/video tab in properties06:09
lagboxl0rdn1x, really now i want to know as well06:09
* ObrienDave = 3 LOL06:10
l0rdn1xlol06:10
lagboxfirst world computer problems06:11
mavenhello06:12
lagboxhi06:12
mavenany Ubuntu expert? need help06:12
lagboxask away06:12
kelvinellahello, can I create a windows7 bootable USB with this command? dd if=~/xxx.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ??06:13
mavenI am planning to install Ubuntu in over 150 systems in our office. We only use VLC for videos and local network(browser and network file) which distro would you recommend?06:14
lagboxreally06:14
mavenYes06:14
kelvinellaDo I need sudo dd if=~/xxx.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ??06:14
lagboxhehe i guess you mean like what flavor of ubuntu ?06:14
wallypyes06:14
Ben64maven: whichever you prefer06:14
l0rdn1xI found this guys, http://gentoovps.net/video-length-from-command-line/  then we just make a script that does that recursive for all file names in your folder wham06:14
l0rdn1xlol06:14
lagboxnice06:15
mavenYes :) i asked couple of my friends and they said Lubuntu would be good?06:15
l0rdn1xkelvinella: no06:16
sqwawmaven: you'd probably want something like ubuntu desktop and a kickstart file. you could completely customize the packages that come pre-instaled and tweak as needed06:16
sqwawhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu06:16
l0rdn1xkelvinella: you can try it though, for fun ;)06:18
mavensqwaw: I checked the link, that is actually good. I was checking SuseStudio, is that any good?06:18
editionbasically, I want VLC to stream from the SE401 camera.06:19
l0rdn1xWell youtube-dl is broken ;(06:25
lagboxoh no06:26
l0rdn1xyeah check it out http://sprunge.us/ZVea06:26
sqwawmaven: no idea06:26
UttorentHi i'm trying to download uttorent can someone help ?06:28
Ben64!torrent | Uttorent06:30
ubottuUttorent: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P06:30
Uttorenthuh06:30
Ben64try one of those06:30
Uttorenti just want to know how to download06:30
Uttorentcan someone do on teamviewr for me06:30
Ben64nope06:30
Ben64open the ubuntu software center and pick the one you like the most06:31
Ben64i use deluge, but i'm sure there are other good ones06:31
l0rdn1xwhy oh why does youtube-dl have to be broken? ugh06:31
mgedminl0rdn1x, http://www.jwz.org/hacks/youtubedown works06:35
mgedmin(and is constantly updated to keep up with youtube changes)06:35
editionIs there a way of adding the SE401 camera device as /dev/video1.06:35
l0rdn1xCan someone else confirm youtube-dl is broken so I can report a bug to the developer.06:37
siloxidwhat is youtube-dl?06:38
l0rdn1xsiloxid: a script to download youtube videos06:38
siloxidon what version of ubuntu?06:40
l0rdn1x12.04 precise06:40
siloxidI don't have a machine with that version unfortunately06:40
l0rdn1xyeah im checking now to see if it's just the version in the repository06:41
l0rdn1xgonna compile it from the source site06:41
mgedminl0rdn1x, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1318363 looks like the bug you're about to file?06:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1318363 in youtube-dl (Ubuntu) "can't download this youtube video" [Undecided,New]06:41
l0rdn1xI was getting a different error but let me try this other version that is not from the repository and see if it works.06:42
Uttorentcp: cannot stat 'uttorent server .. etc..etc' no such file or directory ???06:43
Uttorentwhat do i do06:43
Ben64Uttorent: what are you trying to do06:43
lagboxedition, why does it need to be video106:44
Uttorentdownload uttorent06:44
Uttorenti get how to do it06:44
Ben64Uttorent: i already gave you a list of bittorrent clients, pick one of them06:44
Uttorentim using uttorent ?06:44
Ben64no06:44
Uttorentwhy not06:44
editionlagbox: for vlc, and testing purposes.06:44
Ben64because its not in ubuntu06:44
lagboxwhat video device is it listed as atm ?06:44
Uttorentoh sorry could i have that list again06:45
editionnone.06:45
lagboxi haven't played with that stuff in awhile06:45
Ben64!torrent | Uttorent06:45
ubottuUttorent: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P06:45
lagboxbut i remember being able to move them around some how based on when the drivers loaded them06:45
Uttorentokay ill go with kttorent ?06:45
Uttorentwhere do i download06:45
lagboxtransmission baby06:45
Ben64Uttorent: i've already told you that too, ubuntu software center06:46
Uttorentoh ok06:46
Uttorentthanks06:46
Uttorentso i wont be needing terminal06:46
lagboxnope, just click the ubuntu software center06:47
miandonmenmianI have installed a software, but it is not showing up on my installed software right after the installation. Is there any command to update the software information without rebooting the computer?06:48
akaWolfsomeone here used tightvncviewer?06:49
lagboxmiandonmenmian, where are you seeing this listed of installed software ?06:49
siloxidok, my machine finally finished processing files.  I rebooted to make it bring up the "report problem" dialogs and submitted the problem.  one admin password and five dialogs later it submitted the bug.  I'm not seeing any more dialogs now when I log in. awesome!06:49
lagboxsweet only 6 months in the making06:49
miandonmenmianlagbox: not actually seeing, just installed an updated version of a software, and when i call it on the terminal it still shows the old one. But i've had similar issues before. I believe i heard there is a command that refreshes this06:50
siloxidlagbox: the last time I tried to report the problem it went into an infinite loop of dialogs and I gave up06:50
editionlagbox: I need to find a way to get this SE401 camera to work as video1. My laptop webcam by default is video0.06:50
lagboxsiloxid, ah ... yea that would be very very annoying06:51
lagboxunderstandable06:51
lagboxedition, what ever software you are using should be able to see all the devices so you can pick which one06:51
editionI need to install the driver first.06:52
editionsomehow.06:52
lagboxmiandonmenmian, for fun type     which your-command-here06:52
lagboxedition, it is entirely possible that after you get the driver and reboot that that device may become video106:52
editionyes. But I need to install the driver first. Any suggestions?06:53
lagboxusb webcam ?06:53
akaWolfsomeone here used tightvncviewer?06:54
miandonmenmianlagbox: more explicitly I'm talking about cmake. which cmake : /usr/local/bin/cmake  then the installer says: -- Installing: /usr/local/bin/cmake06:54
Ben64akaWolf: ask your actual question06:54
miandonmenmiancmake version says its the old one.06:54
lagboxmiandonmenmian, your not installing it from the repo ?06:54
miandonmenmianno06:55
lagboxedition, is it aox, philips, or kensington06:55
Ben64miandonmenmian: what version of ubuntu do you have, and which version of cmake do y9ou have06:55
lagboxmiandonmenmian, do you know where the correct version is located atm ?06:55
miandonmenmianwell, i tried with #updatedb and looks like got something06:55
miandonmenmiannah06:56
editionlagbox, according to the hardware description: "Endpoints, Inc. SE401 Webcam", so probably AOX.06:56
editionor not.06:56
lagboxisn't it an external webcam ?06:56
miandonmenmiantried on a new terminal, cmake --help shows the new version. old terminal shows the old version :S06:56
editionyes, its an external webcam.06:57
Ben64miandonmenmian: ok so close the old terminal?06:57
lagboxah i guess it has no identifiers on it06:57
editionit was bought more than several years ago; I doubt it.06:57
miandonmenmianBen64: yeah, well. I tried with #reset before, i was hoping to find a command that refreshes this. but i suppose close the old terminal does the trick06:58
lagboxit could be endpoint06:58
lagboxthey make the se40206:58
akaWolfI can't grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer.06:58
akaWolfBen64:06:58
editionyes, thats the endpoint, but definitely the correct driver.06:58
l0rdn1xlol, it said to run sudo youtube-dl -U ,  then to run it again and here is what I get when trying to run it the second time.. /usr/bin/youtube-dl: 1: /usr/bin/youtube-dl: Not: not found06:59
DJJeffpulseaudio plays just fine with VLC media player for flash and netflix it says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]" there is alot of stuttering and when I put in full screen it just crashes06:59
lagboxyour kernel might have a se401 driver07:00
DJJeffrunning 14.04.1 LTS07:00
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lagboxgspca_se401 ?07:00
lagboxmaybe modprobe that bad boy07:02
editionok07:02
vickyhello07:02
vickyanyone is there07:02
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Guest70897hello07:03
Guest70897hi crash07:03
editionlagbox: so modprobe gspca_se401?07:04
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hariomI have a server running 10.04 LTS. I am trying to update its apt repository but it is not able to resolve. What could be the problem?07:04
akaWolfhow to grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer?07:05
lagboxsure why not07:05
Guest70897anyone here who can help on andorid07:05
OERIASis there a way to have dash shortcut on an IBM Model M/07:05
OERIAS?07:05
Ben64Guest70897: this channel is ubuntu only07:06
edition"modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'gspca_se401': Operation not permitted"07:06
Ben64edition: needs sudo07:06
ObrienDaveGuest70897 try #android07:06
editionthat wont cause any issues?07:06
akaWolfhow to grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer?07:06
l0rdn1xOk guys this right here will make you want to just freak out..lol http://sprunge.us/HDef07:06
OERIASGuest70897, try #android or #android-os07:06
Ben64!patience | akaWolf07:06
ubottuakaWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:06
OERIASis there a way to have dash shortcut on an IBM Model M/07:06
akaWolfBen64: hehe07:07
lagboxdoes the model m not have a meta key ?07:07
OERIASlagbox, not my model07:07
OERIASit is from 199307:07
lagboxis this a computer ?07:08
OERIASway before microscheisse made the windows key07:08
OERIASlagbox, no07:08
ObrienDavetoaster ;P07:08
OERIASit is a keyboard07:08
lagboxwhat keys would you like to use07:08
OERIASa clickyboard07:08
OERIASon windoze it is ctrl+esc07:09
OERIASbut on ubuntu it is a different story07:09
lagboxyou can change the bindings if you would like07:09
OERIAShow lagbox ?07:09
lagboxdoes this bot have a quick ref for keyboard bindings ?07:10
lagboxwell i guess you need super really07:11
lagboxxmodmap ?07:14
hariomSound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"07:19
theruehey is there an irc client in linux that allows you to show multiple channel windows at the same time? like how you can with mirc for windows by choosing tile-horizontal?07:20
lagboxim going to assume there is07:21
lagboxmaybe something from the kde family07:21
lagboxlooks like quassel can split the screen07:25
lagboxnot sure about mosaic07:25
l0rdn1xwell I just purged youtube-dl it's busted07:26
l0rdn1xIt says to do a youtube-dl -U then it say it updated then it say command not found I give up it's just making me very angry07:26
lagboxhehe ... save that battle for another day07:27
l0rdn1xyep lol07:27
lagboxits to late for that07:27
hariomSound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"07:27
mgedminbash has a cache of command locations07:27
hariomHow to fix this sound issue?07:27
mgedminthis sometimes results in fun unintuitive errors07:27
lagboxpaths ?07:28
OERIAStherue, xchat07:29
l0rdn1xlagbox I fixed it lmao I just couldn't take it anymore07:33
lagboxhaha07:33
theruedoes anyone run cinnamon on ubuntu?07:34
lagboxsounds like the life of a developer07:34
l0rdn1xYeah I would of lost sleep over it, tossing and turning lol,  now I can sleep with comfort tonight knowing I can youtube-dl till my heart is content tomorrow07:35
lagboxthat is how i am except i wouldn't sleep i would just stay up for ever07:35
l0rdn1xhahahaha yeah07:35
lagboxand 2 days later i would be in a coma07:36
mmizgierdid anyone tried updating 12.04 to 14.04.1 on Dell XP13 Developer Edition (this one has got distro signed by Dell, doesn't know if there are any differences)?07:36
lagboxi would imagine if the drivers exist for all the hardware it shouldn't be to difficult07:37
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mmizgieri hope so, still i'm a bit afraid that something might go wrong, so asked if anyone owns this as i do07:38
mmizgiernot that i recommend buying one, as after 6 months my sound card is broken07:39
l0rdn1xeveryone I know that has had a dell had a horrible crash07:39
lagboxits not one of those crazy ones with a programmable keyboard is it ?07:39
mmizgierlagbox: its not07:40
dolhi guys. does anybody know if I can play HDCP protected content on ubuntu?07:40
mmizgierbut had to buy external sound card07:40
lagboxdo all the features work on it in 12.04 ?07:41
mmizgieryep07:41
lagboxwell thats a big plus07:41
icloudcan someone help me understand what startx does? the reason is that i want to remove lightdm.   i was looking at xinitrc it defers to Xsession, and xsession source all the "sessionfiles" in the $syssessiondir07:41
icloudhowever, i have no idea what the $syssessiondir is pointing too07:41
hariomSound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"07:41
hariomHow to fix this sound issue?07:41
icloudseems like its gone after booting07:42
l0rdn1xdol: http://forums.hexus.net/consumer-electronics/191909-so-hdcp-has-finally-been-cracked.html07:42
icloudand hello lagbox again : )07:42
lagboxhello07:42
lagboxagain :)07:42
doll0rdn1x, I have read that already but it doesn't say anything if I can play or not. I don't want an illegal thing and I have no aim to pirate things.07:43
after_rI would really love the "Ubuntu Mono" font in a light-weight variant... is that possible to make at all or to get?07:44
l0rdn1xdol: I don't know if it's officially supported or not without loss of some type.07:46
after_rbut I really like how the Ubuntu fonts look.. especially Ubuntu Light.. bravo07:46
lagboxmaybe something on font.ubuntu.com07:46
doll0rdn1x, do you have experience with HDCP?07:46
after_rmany thanks07:46
opahpermisi07:46
opahslm untuk semua07:47
l0rdn1xdol: no07:47
doll0rdn1x, it is very very hard to find a person who knows HDCP. That's make me sick.07:48
lagboxi never heard of it till you mentioned it07:48
l0rdn1xhaha just another one of those cryptic codecs to try and prevent people from watching free movies lol07:49
l0rdn1xdoesn't do anything special07:50
lagboxjust another copy protection ?07:50
l0rdn1xyep07:50
lagboxyay another one07:50
l0rdn1xits been cracked already hahaha07:50
lagboxyou think they are going to realize eventually they can't do anything to stop it07:51
l0rdn1xNah they'll keep making more and more07:51
monkwitdafunkhi. does anybody have an opinion which nvidia proprietary drivers should be in the repository? i think nvidia certified drivers is the way to go07:52
l0rdn1xI think adobe should be boycotted,  They need to support Linux, or people need to stop using Flash on their websites lol07:56
lagboxi have all flash blocked07:57
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streulmahello, my computer rans constantly out of memory. I have 4GB ram and want to run virtual machines.08:00
lagboxi hear ya08:01
l0rdn1xstreulma: install more ram, perhaps 8GB ?08:01
lagboxi have 6gb and i run out08:01
lagboxno vms08:01
donniezazen_Long time ago ia32-libs used to be go to requirements for Android SDK. It no longer exist. I see blogs don't mention any package requirements for Android SDK except Java. Is there no 32 bit package requirement for Android SDK on Ubuntu 14.04?08:02
streulmal0rdn1x: it's soldered, Macbook Air08:02
mobyduckI just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a VM. I can't for the life of me locate the settings for keyboard layout08:02
l0rdn1x8GB does me some good so far, but I would love to have 16gb just so I don't have to worry about it.08:02
mobyduckI want the OS in English, but I'm using a Swedish keyboard and want that layout08:02
lagboxfor me chromium is the biggest offender :)08:02
streulmal0rdn1x should I buy a new notebook ?08:04
l0rdn1xstreulma: yeah and send me the old macbook air I could put that thing to some good use08:04
l0rdn1xlol'08:04
mobyduckit should say EN somewhere in the upper bar, near the volume control and bluetooth and clock, shouldn't it?08:04
mobyduckor there should at least be a choice for keyboard layout in the "Keyboard" entry in the settings, but there isn't08:05
mobyduckwtf?08:05
instigatorhello.whats the reason for using both tar and gzip together? Why not just use gzip to compress a folder containing files into a compressed file, without needing to use tar?08:05
streulma????????????????????08:05
streulmano, for real08:05
l0rdn1xstreulma: for real if your going to buy a brand new notebook, send me your Macbook if your gonna toss it lol08:06
l0rdn1xinstigator: It makes for better compression.08:07
streulmanooooooooooo08:07
l0rdn1xGoodnight all08:07
streulmaI sell it08:07
mobyduckno takers on my keyboard layout problem... I guess I'll try again later08:07
instigatorl0rdn1x: from what I read tar does not compress files, only archives a number of files into one file, while gzip and compress a number of files in one file. So I dont see the point of using tar with gzip, since tar does not further compress the file08:08
instigator*while gzip can compress08:08
instigatorsorry for typo08:09
nick___hey08:09
nick___KTorrent 9 kibs/s wtf.. when my speed test shows 100mbps download speed08:09
andreasssHi need some help, i need mailutils without postfix.08:09
ViaNocturna85instigator, you are quite right. Tar is just an archiver, whilst gzip and bzip would be better for your needs08:09
andreasssor use the command mail i need08:10
nick___anyone suggest a better torrent ?08:10
mobyducknvm. Solved it.08:10
blaaainstigator: you use gzip to compress and tar to archive08:12
lagboxgzip is normally used to compress single files, tar to take multiple files and create an archive   tar.gz   .tgz    tarball08:12
WizardGedanything i should know before spinning up the plasma 5 tech preview up in a vm08:13
lagboxi have no idea but it sounds cool08:14
WizardGedhmm it will not start up in virtualbox by default or with nomodset enabled08:21
andreashello, just installed Geany. it used to work with the 'debugger' (red sign on the line number when fault in code), but it stopped, how do I turn it on again? Coding in PHP, I know next to nothing ye.t08:21
WizardGedhave you saved the file as a .php file yet :)08:21
andreasyes08:22
andreasI am running it in xamp, I have syntax highlighting and all08:22
WizardGedok have to start somewhere that's all08:22
andreashttp://bildr.no/view/VnA2dXA108:23
andreasscreenshot of my geany08:23
WizardGedandreas: wait you want php debugging in geany08:28
WizardGedandreas: that's not possible at the moment08:28
WizardGedandreas: you can use xdebug in eclipse though08:29
WizardGedandreas: just don't download eclipse through your package manager it's outdated and mangled in the default repositories08:30
SohamGHow do i change my resolution to 1920x1080 in ubuntu studio?08:31
andreasWizardGed: not full debugging, just red flags when I forget things like ;. It used to work08:32
andreasbut it stopped, I probably broke something, tried purging it to no effect08:33
andreasssOh,,t hanks.08:35
andreasssthanks.08:35
andreasssthe only thing i want is to use the mail command but with ssmtp insteed08:35
WizardGedwell all the stuff that has to do with syntax highlighting is in View menu > Highlight Mode > Scripts > PHP08:36
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lvlephI have been digging and digging, but I can't seem to find out what is being run to get multimedia keys working in Unity, but not in lightdm. Any one know what happens during the start of Unity which gets the multimedia keys working?08:38
WizardGedandreas: did you get that?08:43
emanuel_vogloio skype08:45
luzifer1hai08:45
luzifer1hai08:46
lvlephWhile in lightdm my multimedia keys don't work, however once I have logged into Unity they work. If I log into another wm say i3 the multimedia keys aren't working. What is being run to get the multimedia keys working? Apparently this use to be handled by gnome-setting-daemon (now unity-settings-daemon), but I am not sure this explains why it doesn't show up in lightdm when it use to.08:50
tasslehoffIn 14.04, how can I switch between network connections without nm-applet?08:58
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athithi09:07
athithelp me pls09:07
ViaNocturna85athit, instead of just saying help, just ask the question, if anyone can help, they will09:08
enzo2quacuna da ROma?09:10
enzo2*roma09:12
enzo2#roma09:12
dolis HDCP supported in ubuntu?09:14
enzo2ciao ragazze09:16
bcvery1!it enzo209:23
bcvery1!it | enzo209:23
ubottuenzo2: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:23
ItachiHi, can anyone help me with read/write permissions09:26
Itachifor cd/dvds09:26
Itachihello could someone help me with a problem im having09:30
vineet_how to install gparted09:33
k1l_Itachi: i bet someone could help if he knew what your issue is09:33
vineet_gparted09:33
k1l_vineet_: "sudo apt-get install gparted"09:33
Itachii dont think anyone could but ok09:33
Itachihaving problems with read/write permissions on cd /dvds09:33
Itachitrying to copy an iso to a disc09:33
k1l_Itachi: how do you try that?09:34
Itachii've tried copy paste and just right clicking the iso09:34
Itachiand going write to disc09:34
Itachiwhen i copy past09:34
Itachior move09:35
Itachiit says09:35
Itachithe destination is read only09:35
k1l_is it a RW cd/dvd?09:35
Itachiill check09:36
Itachiive tried 3 different cs09:36
Itachiones a cdr09:36
Itachiones a dvd r09:36
Itachitried both09:36
Itachithey have files from a windows computer09:36
k1l_what ubuntu is that exactly? which program do you use(the filemanager?)?09:37
Itachitold you its such a difficult problem :/09:38
Itachikinda puts me off ubuntu09:38
Ben64can you explain what you want fully in as much detail as possible09:38
Itachiyup09:39
ItachiOkay so i have an iso09:39
Itachithat i downloaded09:39
Itachii want to put it on a disc09:39
Itachibut the disc says read only09:39
Ben64if you explain it on one line it will really help people read it09:39
k1l_i cant crosscheck since i dont have a cd/dvd device anymore. but last time i tried on a differen device it worked as expected. so please put more details in your question (best in one line)09:39
Itachiive tried 3 differen t discs and searched the problem09:39
k1l_Itachi: <k1l_> what ubuntu is that exactly? which program do you use(the filemanager?)?09:40
Itachiubuntu 14.009:40
Itachifilemanger ummm09:40
Itachihow do you find out that09:40
k1l_14.04? "lsb_release -d" give the full number09:40
Itachipretty new to ubuntu only got today09:40
Itachi14.04 yeh09:40
Ben64Itachi: do you want to write the iso to the disc as an image? or as a file on the disc? normally you'd write it as an image so you can use whatever it is supposed to be09:40
k1l_Itachi: yes which program do you use for that task?09:41
guest-GpmPndh09:41
Itachiits an operating system so an image09:41
k1l_is it the filemanager or something else?09:41
Itachi14.04 lts09:41
Ben64Itachi: ok so open up your favorite burning software (mine is k3b) and write it as an image to a blank disc09:41
k1l_Itachi: can you start the program "brasero" its like nero burning on windows09:41
Itachiok09:41
Itachicreate a new project09:42
crypto_guyhello, how i can disable the LAN input like "blacklist uvcvideo" disable the webcam ?09:42
Itachiseems to not want to do the iso09:42
Itachiit says please replace the disc with a supported cd or dvd..09:43
k1l_Itachi: is it a proper image?09:43
Ben64if you're in brasero, choose "Burn image"09:43
Itachiyeh09:43
Itachifriend used jsut before09:43
Ben64is the disc completely empty?09:43
Itachino09:43
Ben64then you can't burn an image to it09:43
Itachibut it has space09:43
Itachii think09:43
Itachihow can i delete stuff off it ?09:43
Itachicause i only have a mac09:43
k1l_Itachi: no. a iso needs to use the whole disc.09:44
Ben64so? an image is a full disc image of a disc, and it has to be written fully09:44
Itachiohh09:44
Itachiis there any way of fomating the disc09:44
Ben64not if it isn't a cdrw/dvdrw09:44
Itachioh okay i think i have some cdrws upstairs09:45
Itachiif i grab one will i be able to re write it on ubuntu09:45
Ben64or you can get a blank cdr09:45
Itachimight not be one09:45
Itachiill see09:45
Itachiback09:48
ppfhi09:48
Itachihopefuly not scratched found some cdrws09:48
Itachihi09:48
ppfi made some modifications to the ubuntu kernel09:49
mcphailItachi: a cd will be too small for the standard Ubuntu image, I think09:49
Itachinot im trying to put windows 809:49
Itachiits 3.6 gb i think09:49
ppfhow can i prevent apt from "upgrading" the packages i generate and install when building my kernel?09:49
Ben64Itachi: yeah, a cd is 0.7GB so that won't work09:49
Itachireally09:49
Itachiit says 4.7gb09:49
Ben64then that is a dvd09:49
Itachiyeh it is09:50
Itachidvd rw09:50
Itachidvd and rw09:50
Itachiill insert now09:50
brainwash!pinning | ppf09:50
ubottuppf: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto09:50
Ben64cool, have fun09:50
Itachino wait09:50
Itachiit says this09:50
Itachiyou have just inserted a blank dvd choose what to do09:50
Itachinvm ill see if it works09:50
ppfbrainwash: so whenever i build and install a new version of my kernel i should pin it in dpkg/apt?09:51
Itachisweet looks like its working :)09:51
k1l_Itachi: its the same task as if you want to burn a iso to a dvd on windows or mac. it may be have other program names or other colors but the task is the same. just dont let you distract because its a linux.09:51
k1l_Itachi: good.09:51
Itachiyeh i understand now09:52
Itachionly had ubuntu for few hours getting the hang of it now09:52
brainwashppf: I guess you could pin the ubuntu linux packages by setting the priority to a low value, maybe even 0 or -109:52
Itachidoes anyone know how much space ubuntu OS takes up ?09:52
Itachi\09:52
mcphailppf: you can simply remove the linux-image-generic package and things won't get updated (I think that's the package name...)09:53
k1l_Itachi: like minimal install? or on a full desktop isntall?09:53
Itachifull desktop install09:53
ppfwhy does apt try to update my custombuilt packages anyways? is it because of the name and version?09:53
Itachiare you using apt update ?09:54
ppfmcphail: i did that already, and that successfully prevents major version updates, nontheless it still tries to upgrade the individual packages if there is a change within a version09:54
brainwashppf: take a look at "apt-cache policy <package>"09:54
k1l_Itachi: i would say 7-15 GB for / (system. depends on what amount of software you want to install) and then /home as much of you need for your files like media, hotos etc.09:54
mcphailppf: how are you building and installing your kernel? The simple way or are you making a .deb?09:54
Itachioh okay do you know if you can partion ubuntu whilest running win8 ?09:55
Itachibecause i remember when i installed it there was a partion option but thats when i had no OS09:55
hariomHey guys, any body expert on ubuntu sound issues? I am facing problem: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F09:55
k1l_ppf: apt will install any version that is newer than the one installed, when it finds one in the active repos.09:55
ppfi use the git sources at kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-trusty.git, and i build it using the debian/rules script09:55
Ben64Itachi: you can't really do anything with ubuntu partitions in windows09:55
ppfand that generates .debs09:55
Itachio okay09:55
mcphailppf: Aah. I find it much easier to do a simple make install. I don't like to use the package manager for kernels09:56
k1l_Itachi: of course you can manually change partitions in the installer. or in the live-ubuntu09:56
Itachiyeh09:56
ItachiI want to learn some more about ubuntu before i move back to windows do you have any suggestions ?09:56
Itachii know some simple terminal commands09:56
ppfmcphail: that doesn't sound like the worst idea, i think i can give that a shot09:57
mcphailppf: if you make a deb, it will be updated by the package manager unless you do pinning as above09:57
k1l_Itachi: just start using it.09:57
Itachiyeh i have but i'm still a bit confused with the installing stuff offline thing09:57
ppfmcphail: or could i somehow make it generate packages with a different name?09:57
k1l_ppf: use apt pinning to prevent updates09:57
mcphailppf: probably but I don't know how ;)09:58
bazhang!manual | Itachi09:58
ubottuItachi: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/09:58
k1l_ppf: but be aware of the updates you need to do manually then09:58
Itachiokay thanks :)09:58
bazhang!rute | Itachi and this09:58
ubottuItachi and this: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com09:58
ppfyes, i understand that09:58
Itachiwhat do the names in red mean btw?09:58
mcphailppf: the only problem I've had with "make install" is the nvidia driver tends to get into a muddle. I always run "apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-whateverversion" afterwards09:59
k1l_Itachi: its called "highlight". when somebody names your nick09:59
ppffirst i'll try to find out how to change the -generic to something more distinguishing, maybe that'll throw apt off it's course!09:59
mcphailppf: Ha! subterfuge will win!10:00
ppfI hope!10:00
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megalodenHey guys, anyone here using any dock bar?10:08
hariomHey guys, any body expert on ubuntu sound issues? I am facing problem: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F10:14
EkaterinCan Ubuntu autodetect your keyboard layout?  I have a user with a US keyboard but Ubuntu thinks it is UK.10:14
k1l_megaloden: unity already ships one :)10:15
Itachito many sys messages10:17
Itachilol10:17
Itachihas anyone made an ubuntu server here?10:17
syfhello EKATERIN, you can change your keyboard layout setting in system settings10:17
k1l_Itachi: what is your actual issue? please describe that with more details in one line (i thought we were past that stage)10:18
syfthe Keyboard option10:18
Itachii have no issues10:18
Itachiis this purely for issues ? sorry haha10:18
Itachii didn't realise10:18
Ben64Itachi: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for everything else10:19
Itachihow do i get there10:19
Ben64/join #ubuntu-offtopic10:19
Ekaterinsyf: thanks, I just wondered if there was some script that could be run at boot time to autodetect what keyboard has been plugged in.10:20
syfoh10:20
Ben64Ekaterin: normally people don't change keyboard layouts very often10:20
kappriguys i want to install utorrent in xbuntu using wine/playonelinux can someone help me10:20
Itachiofftopic link again10:21
Itachiplease10:21
Ben64kappri: why not use one of the many native torrent clients10:21
Ben64Itachi: #ubuntu-offtopic10:21
syfI use ubuntu studio, and while installing there's a guide about Keyboard layout setting10:21
k1l_kappri: why do you insist of the windows client?10:21
kapprii want to download in both windows 8 and xubuntu. so which ever os i use i can continue to download10:22
k1l_kappri: so the first step is to get a client that works on ubuntu and windows?10:23
Ben64kappri: any torrent client can continue a file10:23
hateballSeems like someone is unaware of how torrents and hashes work10:23
k1l_kappri: but torrent clients should work with the same files anyway10:23
kapprii tried but it didn't work10:24
Ben64kappri: i guarantee you that it does work10:24
kapprii tried it with utorrent sever10:25
Ben64try deluge10:26
kappri@BEn64 which software r u using?10:26
Ben64deluge...10:26
kapprithanks10:27
projCan anyone help me? How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf10:33
projCan anyone help me? How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf10:34
hateballproj: most likely by installing libboost-dev by the looks of it10:34
hateballit's probably noted in the readme10:35
Kartagishttp://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Using_gFTP_with_ssh_sftp.html <--- I'm trying to follow this, but there's no SSH2 stuff on my SSH tab. any ideas?10:36
projhateball:I've installed libboost-dev but the same error occurs. Does it matter which directory I am in when I install libboost? "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev"10:37
pernixhot_do you know what the 4th row of /etc/group means ? the adm thing10:37
pernixhot_how is it different from the sudoer10:37
hateballproj: nope. I suggest you read the readme or the build-script to see what it expects. it's not really an ubuntu issue10:39
[devil-boy]yoooooo*10:43
[devil-boy]what's the mdadm command for extended volume?10:43
joelmohow can I enable user units, I put one in ~/.config/systemd/user/ with ExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'echo afdasf > /home/joelmo/sysdworking' but its not running10:44
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elmaestrohi guys, am looking to find a download resource for XAMPP, the sourceforge site stalls download midstream, any ideas?10:55
projCan someone pls help me? :S10:55
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k1l_elmaestro: use the packages ubuntu ships10:56
k1l_!lamp | elmaestro10:56
ubottuelmaestro: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.10:56
k1l_proj: what do you want to do at all?10:57
projk1l_: How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same.10:58
elmaestro<kil> how then do i install lamp from packages?10:58
k1l_elmaestro: seee the bots message10:58
hariomI am facing issue in playing a sound file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745543/10:58
k1l_proj: what is the goal at all?10:59
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elmaestro<kil> if i use lamp instead of Xampp, will my site be viewable on most browsers in any OS?11:00
k1l_elmaestro: if you use the crappy xampp it will be a security nightmare. so you need to use lamp11:00
projk1l_: I'm trying to run TCHunt but it's asking me to enter a binary name so it can compile/build tchunt. When I enter the binary name I get the error that occurred in the provided screenshot. Just wondering how I can eliminate these errors so it can actually run.11:00
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Ben64proj: doesn't look like a well designed installer/program, might not work11:01
k1l_proj: see the answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/470508/how-do-i-find-all-the-truecrypt-encrypted-container-files-through-terminal11:01
projk1l_: I have already executed that.11:01
k1l_you need some more depencies for this. normally they should be shipping a readme describing what to do and what you need11:02
k1l_proj: i doubt that. since your error message tells exactly what is missing and my link tells exactly to install that11:02
projk1l_: I'll try it again11:03
k1l_proj: so please go and read again11:03
projk1l_:http://gyazo.com/03ed74cc13c7717ba58fc1e0129df403 after executing: g++ -Os  `fltk-config --cxxflags` TCHunt.cpp `fltk-config --ldstaticflags` -lboost_system -lboost_filesystem -otchunt (in the TCHunt dir).11:04
k1l_proj: did you run the command before that, too? or are you again just picking random commands and entering them into the terminal?11:05
k1l_*commands before that11:05
projk1l_: I ran the previous cmnds as well.11:05
k1l_seems like tchunt is not a good program at all11:08
SohamGhow do i make the resolution on ubuntu studio 1920x1080??11:10
cfhowlettSohamG, install the proper video card drivers???11:12
SohamGcfhowlett : Ok..il do that and see if it works..thanks :)11:12
k1l_proj: "It's a bit of a pain to build because it needs so many dependencies " for a project that has not seen any update since 2011. even the authors website is offline. i would try to use another program11:13
SohamGcfhowlett : How do i run the .exe setup file(i am new)...i cant find WinE11:16
k1l_SohamG: stop11:17
cfhowlettSohamG, you don't.  exe is for windows.  you need the linux driver.  what is your card?11:17
k1l_you dont install windows video drivers on ubuntu. use the ubuntu ones. what video card do you use?11:17
SohamGcfhowlett : nvidia gtx 750ti(galaxy)11:17
cfhowlett!nvidia | SohamG11:17
ubottuSohamG: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:17
k1l_SohamG: so open a terminal and go "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"11:18
SohamGthanks..but in general whats the way to run a .exe?11:18
k1l_SohamG: please dont even think of doing that with the windows drivers.11:18
pasociao11:19
cfhowlettSohamG, in general you DO NOT run .exe!  that's a WINDOWS format!  linux ain't windows!11:19
cfhowlett:)11:19
SohamGk1l_ : but if i have a game then....?11:20
cfhowlett!wine | SohamG,11:20
ubottuSohamG,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:20
SohamGok11:20
k1l_SohamG: wine program-that-doesnt-exist-for-ubuntu.exe11:20
BluesKajHey folks11:20
SohamGok thanks man :)11:20
cfhowlettSohamG, valve makes linux native games available on steam.11:21
SohamGok...and for the command k1l_ gave me, is 'current' supposed to mean anything? cause that command dint work...11:22
k1l_SohamG: show the error in a pastebin11:22
VladimirI have a software on windows which needs the private ssh key to my ubuntu server (for monitoring), I'm not sure which key to take, is it the /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ?11:22
k1l_and the command11:22
SohamGk1l_ its simply 'Unable to locate package' and the command is sudo apt-get install nvidia-current11:23
k1l_!paste | SohamG11:23
ubottuSohamG: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:23
k1l_SohamG: ok, please put "lsb_release -a" in there too11:23
Vladimirthere's like 8 different keys in the /etc/ssh/ folder11:23
nea1hi, can someone tell me if /usr/bin/python2 exists in every still suppored Ubuntu version?11:26
SohamGk1l_ : saying that 'option -a is unknown'11:26
k1l_SohamG: ok, so you dont use a ubuntu at all?11:26
SohamGk1l_ : just installed it a few hours ago after my windows 7 failed me...so yeah..11:27
k1l_SohamG: show a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin11:27
k1l_!paste | SohamG11:27
SohamGk1l_ : you mean show the error?11:28
k1l_yes11:28
Ben64show whatever it says11:28
k1l_show all including the command11:28
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joelmoI asked a question on askubuntu, if someone knows how to enable systemd user units in 14.10: http://askubuntu.com/questions/543563/how-to-enable-systemd-user-units-in-14-1011:33
SohamGk1l_ : here http://pastebin.com/Lc2siPeL and sorry for taking forever....my internets too bad11:34
Ben64SohamG: that is not what was asked for at all11:34
k1l_SohamG: i did ask for "lsb_release -a"11:34
SohamGk1l_ : please excuse my stupidity :P http://pastebin.com/xDhinsiB11:35
k1l_SohamG: so now run" sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"  when its finished (with or without error) put all into pastbin again11:36
SohamGyup will do11:40
alexi5hello11:42
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alexi5do any of you guys know a windows tool that can copy the iso installation to a usb flash drive ?11:43
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jnhghy_hi, I've repartitionated my ssd and now I get "unable to mount /home" when the os is starting, if I skip this step everything works correctly ... how can I correct this? I've understand that I need to reread/recheck the ssd with the kernel ... I didn't understood exactly what I have to do ... at this point I'm booted using a 12.04 live cd can anybody help?11:44
k1l_alexi5: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows11:44
hateballjnhghy_: did you resize partitions or recreate them?11:47
hateballjnhghy_: if your partitions UUID have changed, you need to adjust in /etc/fstab accordingly11:48
jnhghy_hateball: I've deleted some partitions and then resized the 1st partition11:48
joaofHi! Does anyone know of a good way to configure switchable graphics on Ubuntu? I updated to 14.10 recently, and I can't get anything to work. I had made modifications from tutorials so I could switch off the AMD gpu (it was draining my battery), now when I turn the pc on I get "running on low graphics mode" and can't get to the desktop.11:49
hateballjnhghy_: use "blkid" to see your current UUIDs and adjust to that11:49
karab44hello11:51
alexi5thanks k1l_11:51
karab44can I plugin the disk with i.e. ubuntu 14.04 to absolutely new architecture? I am about to change my PC.11:51
borisetoFor some reason, unity on 12.04 doesn't always load the applications. My guess was that it had something to do with the zeitgeist service, but I'm unsure of it. Can anybody point me to a quick fix for loading times?11:52
hateballkarab44: if you change GPU you will have some issues, but it can be solved with rescue shell most likely11:52
Kartagishttp://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Using_gFTP_with_ssh_sftp.html <--- I'm trying to follow this, but there's no SSH2 stuff on my SSH tab. any ideas?11:53
karab44hateball: yeah, I am experienced with that last times heheh ;)11:53
karab44hateball: but I want to add 1 more GPU with the same architecture but I go with other things as well . What about CPU? I go from i7 4 to 8 cores and z68 to x9911:54
leeyaahello11:54
leeyaado you guys know if there is an ubuntu package for Text::CSV_Multiline11:54
leeyaaits a perl module11:54
karab44can I just simply plugin my OS to new hardware and wait it updates?11:54
hateballkarab44: it *should* load the relevant modules on boot, by magic11:55
hateballkarab44: exception being things like proprietary drivers, if you switch between ati/nvidia for instance11:55
karab44hateball: that's what's really cool about this system :)11:57
yellabs-r2hello all12:02
yellabs-r2what does the selinux file stand for ?12:03
yellabs-r2in the linux file herachy12:03
Labanyellabs-r2: Security Enhanced Linux12:04
yellabs-r2how would i describe it, whats it for ? for example the role of /sbin directory is for system binaries , whats the role of selinux directory ?12:05
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somsipyellabs-r2: homework?12:07
Labanyellabs-r2: Don't know, sorrt. If I would guess, I'd say SELinux-policy files.12:07
yellabs-r2yeah - linux course edx , lol12:08
somsipyellabs-r2: not here then. This is for support only. You could try #ubuntu-offtopic12:08
yellabs-r2okey i think its policy files12:08
yellabs-r2thanks any way , ps : on my ubuntu system the file is empty , so its a ubuntu related question12:09
yellabs-r2knowledge = power :)12:09
somsipyellabs-r2: asking other people = weak12:09
LabanPfft12:09
danielhello12:09
LabanAsking others = one way of learning12:10
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Guest12468pls anyone with help on how to convert pdf files to word on ubuntu12:10
somsipLaban: you saw how he did it. Enough anyway - OT12:10
Guest12468hey anybody home12:13
cristian_cHello12:14
Guest12468hello12:16
williangliaohello world12:16
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elmaestroanyone with idea how to setup a virtual host after installing Apache?12:25
giuseppe_!list12:26
ubottugiuseppe_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:26
jpdselmaestro: Shove it in /etc/apache2/sites-available ?12:26
projHow can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same.12:26
elmaestro<jpds> thanks, but what exactly do u mean?12:26
Guido1by the xubuntu realease nots iut is writen "Upgraders from Trusty will not see the new xfce4-power-manager panel plugin by default, but instead stick to indicator-power. This can easily be resolved by uninstalling indicator-power and adding the “Power Manager Plugin” to the panel." how do i do that?12:27
jpdselmaestro: Place a file with the vhost configuration in there.12:27
PaulVernI just paired my Wii U Pro controller to my laptop running Xubuntu.  It works great in games, but the left joystick also moves the mouse cursor12:28
PaulVernvery distracting12:28
PaulVernany way to avoid this?12:28
TLoFPhi I have a ubuntu machine that my router is trying to serve a static IP, however, once it received a dynamic IP it won't let go of it12:29
elmaestro<jpds> ok, but what if i want to point to a new directory or i can only stick with /etc/apache2/sites-available12:34
lasersPaulVern: iirc uninstall xf86-input-joystick (something)12:34
novisthow can i make it so unity switches to workspace which window belongs when that window is activated from sidebar?12:35
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landgaohow can i master ubnutu12:42
lultrontake meth12:42
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lultronOR Iif you want it to work correctly use it in VMware under windows because every piece of technology you own is owned by a fascist corporation anywyay, why not have your software and hardware work correctly12:43
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QuentinkerYolo !12:46
suneeneed help..my pc takes too much time to start up.how to fix it ?12:46
lultronI want to set everyone that told me not to use linux in a vm when using a pc made for windows.12:47
waressearcher2I tryed to mount nfs partition from other system that is older and it says "mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported", how to fix it and mount remote partition ?12:47
lultronI want to set everyone that told me not to use linuxon fire n a vm when using a pc made for windows.12:47
LabanI don't get your reasoning lultron... Torching people aside... PC made for windows? Usuaully runs *nix just fine.12:48
cfhowlett!topic | lultron,12:49
ubottulultron,: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic12:49
Fyrguys! could you recommend a diary program that has encryption on it?12:50
Protaghmmmm I have a directory on my ubuntu installation called "chriss_old_harddrive?sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive" which is obviously an error. how do I change it's name to just "hdd"?12:54
Protagobviously I "mv" it, but whenever I do it's saying the folder doesn't exist- because it has a quetion mark or spaces in it I suppose12:54
Fyruse slashes "\ ", "\?"12:54
wzi7369Protag: mv ./chriss<TAB> hdd12:55
Fyrmv hdd\ drive12:55
cfhowlettProtag, directory name with spaces?  no.  perhaps 'name here' or name_here12:55
Protagyeah I obviously botched the naming of it at some point12:55
Protagbut when i try to do tab completion I get two files listed: chriss_old_harddrive             sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive12:56
wzi7369Protag: maybe it looks like two names, could it be one name with spaces?12:57
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Protagwell that's where I'm puzzled. when i "ls" it's just one big file called "chriss_old_harddrive?sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive"12:59
wzi7369Protag: is it the only entry in the directory beginning with "chriss_old"?13:01
Protagyup13:01
wzi7369Protag: then you may try  mv chriss_old* hdd13:01
blaaaProtag: can you pipe the ls output into some program which allows you to look at the bits?13:01
Protagoh of course! ok let me see13:02
lubuntu_swap:(13:02
Protagthat worked! thank yoU!13:02
wzi7369Protag: yw13:02
lubuntu_swapHi I've a weird problem: Trying to start my lubuntu machine as every morning, got stuck at booting "/dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-swap_1 not ready". Already waiting half an hour but nothing happens. What happened to my system? Everything worked yesterday evening.13:03
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DJJeffseveral years later and alsa+pulseaudio still fucking suck13:08
Fyralsa or pulseaudio?13:09
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dharmitlubuntu_swap: Maybe you could comment out the line from /etc/fstab which enables mounting swap at boot. Booting into rescue mode could help do this. Later, when system boots properly, you can manually try to mount swap.13:09
DJJeffnot sure13:09
DJJeffvlc media player plays sound just fine13:09
DJJeffwhere as firefox + flash it stutters like shit13:10
DJJeffand steam for ubuntu has sound issues as well13:10
lubuntu_swapdharmit: so comment out every swap partition in fstab right?13:10
DJJeffI did apt-get purge of both alsa and pulseaudio rebooted reinstalled and still have issues13:10
dharmitlubuntu_swap: Every swap partition? I never heard of more than one swap partition.13:11
shakuevвсем привет13:11
lubuntu_swapdharmit: but there is vg-swap_1 and cryptswap in there, so i gues sboth?13:11
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DJJeffit could be how flash player works with alsa that is the problem13:13
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DJJeff# rm -rf /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so13:13
DJJeffit falls back to html5 for youtube13:13
DJJeffand sound is fine13:13
DJJeffreinstall flashplugin-installer13:13
DJJeffand sound is yet again garbage13:14
dharmitlubuntu_swap: I am more of a fedora guy. Never heard of cryptswap so can't comment on it.13:14
lubuntu_swapdharmit: haha so better switch then :D13:14
dharmitlubuntu_swap: Hopefully soon. :D13:14
elmaestroguys, am stuck and frustrated, creating a virtual host after installing apache 2 but am not getting any luck, ideas?13:18
hateballelmaestro: maybe in #httpd13:18
elmaestro<hateball>what do u mean?13:19
SirLagzelmaestro: he meant maybe ask that question in #httpd13:19
elmaestro<sirlagz> can i access that chatroom without logging out of this one?13:20
SirLagzelmaestro: yes, /j #httpd13:20
White_Catis there an easy(er) way to setup a local smtp server13:25
HFSPLUS!ops13:26
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang13:26
pbxWhite_Cat, easier than what? what have you tried?13:26
fridaynextcan drives spin down to standby mode if I'm connected via SMB (not reading/writing, though)?13:27
moldyof course13:27
jnhghyhow do I disable mouse movement in when hover over terminal? (I can work with mouse disabled all together in terminal window)13:28
White_Catpbx no I havent tried anything13:28
White_Catall it needs to do is send emails not recieve it13:28
White_Catand it only needs to work on localhost13:28
White_Catis there something basic for that?13:28
fridaynextmoldy: so how can i research what's keeping the drives spinning after five minutes (my spindown time)?13:29
lumia900how to add my ubuntu to workgroup ?13:30
spiritsackHas anyone else experienced issued where Eclipse says ports 80 and 443 are in use by something else, but when I do netsat -pan nothing are using those ports?13:32
mertheyy13:32
mertwhere you frm13:32
cfhowlettmert, this is ubuntu support.  not socializing.  ask your support questions13:32
ilhamilol13:32
spiritsackPlease correct me if this is not the right place to ask.13:33
fridaynextAh, I just read that my WD Red drives don't support APM, so they won't spin down with the hdparm settings I've enabled.13:33
cfhowlettspiritsack, right place to ask.  patience.  maybe someone knows.13:34
spiritsackthanks13:34
pbxlumia900, give more context.13:34
swattii have a lenovo y510p(SLI nv 755m) notebook and install ubuntu 14.04, next install nvidia driver, but restart and black screen pulse cursor13:35
cfhowlett!nomodeset | swatti13:35
ubottuswatti: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:35
swattiok ty13:35
spiritsackI have just started participating on a java webapp where I work. To get it working I have to set tomcat to use 443 instead of 8443. But when I try to run the project I get an error saying the port is in use by something else13:36
DJonesswatti: Which nvidia driver did you install, I've got a y510p, with 14.04 I used nvidia-prime and it worked straight off without issue13:36
m00nk1nswatti: if previous comments doesnt' help - check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/239707/ideapad-z580-wont-boot-kernels-above-3-2-0-32/353999#35399913:37
spiritsack8080 and 8433 doesnt give an error though, but the webapp doesnt work13:37
m00nk1nswatti: i have similar problem on several lenovo notebooks13:37
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sagatbom dia13:37
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sagatalguem ai sabe me dizer oque fazer para o meu ubuntu 14.10 ficar mais rapido13:38
sagata maquina que eu uso é muito boa13:38
cfhowlett!es | sagat13:38
ubottusagat: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:38
sagatquad core13:38
DJones!pt | sagat13:38
ubottusagat: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.13:38
pbxgood catch DJones13:39
zymmso I'm banging my head against the wall with jack. any can help?13:39
cfhowlettDJones, impessive13:39
cfhowlett*impressive*13:39
DJonescfhowlett: So's google translate :)13:39
cfhowlettzymm, jack has that effect.  ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians13:39
zymmthankx.13:40
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swattiDJones m00nk1n ty13:41
m00nk1nswatti: and if that doesn't help and your notebook will delays on boot - use rpm-based distro13:42
OHMYBUDDHAtesting13:42
OerHeksm00nk1n, rpm based distro ?13:42
OerHekslolz13:42
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SohamGIn the 'software and updates' tool of ubuntu studio 14, i have enabled every source still my additional drivers is empty and the nvidia drivers i am looking for are not there. How do i fix this?13:45
OerHeksSohamG, what videocard do you have? open terminal: lspci | grep VGA # and paste that line(s) here13:46
SohamGI have the gtx 750ti (galaxy) : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)13:47
SohamGOerHeks, ^13:47
velenohello. i’ve this issue strange issue: i’ve deleted a directory, but somehow the files seems to stil take disk space: https://gist.github.com/vschiavoni/b69a429ee4da1220ec9d13:48
velenoin the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root13:48
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cfhowlettveleno, empty the .trash13:50
OerHeksSohamG, you need the nvidia 343 driver, add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:50
velenocfhowlett: from command line ?13:50
OerHeksSohamG, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/469377/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-shows-black-screen-gtx-750-ti13:50
SohamGthanks OerHeks ill do that13:51
SamuraicatTrying to assist my mother with her laptop (I'm not there so makes it difficult)13:51
cfhowlettveleno, yep.  sudo rm -rf trash:///          I THINK13:51
SamuraicatShe was installing an update the other day and the update froze13:52
SamuraicatShe restarted the laptop and freezes at ubuntu splash screen13:52
lumia900pbx as am tring to make my ubuntu as file server in office .. so office on WORKGROUP13:52
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SamuraicatAnything we can do? She can pull up the terminal window.13:52
lumia900so with out adding a additional host all my workstation need to access the ubuntu server13:53
cfhowlett!server | lumia900,13:53
ubottulumia900,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server13:53
lumia900whats the possible place i need to make the WORKGROUP = XXXXXX13:53
OerHeksSamuraicat, try this in  in terminal:  sudo dpkg --configure -a13:53
swattiadd nomodeset ... but nothing :D13:55
lumia900ubuntu adding to WORKGROUP13:55
lumia900help!13:55
AlexPortableUbuntu 10.04 had the ability to press alt+printscreen+k to log out if something froze13:55
AlexPortablewhats the equivalent on 14.04?13:56
cfhowlett!patience | lumia90013:56
ubottulumia900: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:56
SohamGOerHeks : still nothing showing up....13:56
lumia900lol13:56
OerHeksSohamG, just run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-34313:58
OerHeksand reboot i guess13:58
SamuraicatOerHeks : she did that and it said "processing halted, there was too many errors"13:58
SohamGOerHeks : it says unable to locate package13:58
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cfhowlettSamuraicat, not good.  reinstall may be the only cure.13:59
aneksHey guys, does anyone know how I can fix this? http://pastebin.com/ZssgSkrh14:00
gthankDoes logrotate make any guarantees about whether a log can be rotated in the middle of a line?14:00
Samuraicatcfhowlett: Thanks. That's what I'm trying to avoid!14:00
Samuraicatcfhowlett: but if that what it take's, oh well.14:00
SohamGOerHeks14:01
hateballaneks: is it a removable media with NTFS filesystem14:01
SohamGthats not working14:01
cfhowlettSamuraicat, I know.  on the upside: she's already got partitions.  resinstalling *might* not be overly complicated if you are very patient ...and have a good skype/phone line ...14:01
hateballaneks: and what are you trying to acheive/solve14:01
anekshateball: it's a hard drive that I use for data14:01
anekshateball: I'm trying to change permissions on it, but for some reason root is the owner and it shouldn't be14:02
hateballaneks: Well is it an ext* filesystem?14:02
tony_psyHey guys, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and when I log in as root and "ls" it doesnt show a home folder. When I adduser it also doesnt show a home folder like my ubuntu desktop. Am I doing something wrong?14:02
anekshateball: it's an ntfs file system14:02
cfhowlett!server | tony_psy14:02
ubottutony_psy: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server14:02
SamuraicatThanks all!14:03
hateballaneks: Yes, and you cant change perms on ntfs with chown. As you can see it is mounted with 777 so everyone can alter it. Still not sure what problem you are trying to solve14:03
anekshateball: how can I change permissions on it or change user and group owner from root to my own username?14:04
Surendilchgrp14:05
hateballaneks: you can mount it with options that set it to your user. it is already 777 so anyone can edit stuff on it anyhow14:05
hateballaneks: if you want to apply linux permissions, you need a linux native filesystem14:06
anekshateball: the reason being is that my torrents download into a folder on that drive and they won't save, saying permission denied. If it's 777 should be able to work14:06
ThePendulumSo, uh... My desktop environment is gone, probably due a faulty python removal last night14:07
ThePendulumUbuntu 14.04 with Unity14:07
revanselam14:07
ThePendulumIs there any way to get it back properly or would a complete reinstall probably be the most effortless at this point?14:08
Surendilaneks: as hateball said, you can mount the drive with wr options, if you want to change permissions chgrp user.user -R /mountpoint14:08
SurendilThePendulum: if you have /home on other partition, yes14:09
BSzalaihi14:09
ThePendulumSurendil: I don't, but there's nothing interesting in /home for me14:09
BSzalaianyone can help why my Krusader file manager runs only in root mode? in normal mode it hangs out14:09
ThePendulumIn fact, I could back up if there is any14:09
Surendilsorry, misread the question..14:10
ThePendulumIt's just the GUI and a ton of applications that are gone14:10
SurendilThePendulum: try apt-get install -f14:10
aneksSurendil: I know how to change group ownership but chgrp igor -R doesn't fix it, it's still owned by root14:10
Surendilmight do the trick, if not, reinstall is your bests option14:10
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ThePendulumSurendil: Says there's nothing to change14:10
Surendilaneks: chgrp igor.igor14:10
ThePendulumNo command to have Ubuntu check its own integrity and see if there's anything fundamental missing?14:11
aneksSurendil: chgrp only changes the group ownership, chgrp igor.igor isn't a valid command14:11
cfhowlettThePendulum, check the .iso you download, check the USB you make the .iso14:11
AlexPortableAny way I can disable the animation when minimizing a window?14:11
SurendilAlexPortable: compiz settings usually14:12
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goffauxbonjour14:12
ThePendulumcfhowlett: I mean to have an installed Ubuntu compare itself to a fresh iso and install what's missing. Basically a partial fresh install without removing what's already on there14:12
Surendilaneks: then check your /etc/groups file and use the right one14:12
cfhowlettThePendulum, if you mean verify installation of programs only, sure.  a script to run dpkg -l and compare against the .iso manifest ...14:13
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ThePendulumcfhowlett: Hmpf, I'll boot into Windows and make myself a fresh flash with Ubuntu, probably the safest.14:14
ThePendulumAnd a huge post-it on my screen to -never- remove something from python14:15
cfhowlett!md5sum | ThePendulum, yep.  but do the check the .iso and usb ... for sanity14:15
ubottuThePendulum, yep.  but do the check the .iso and usb ... for sanity: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:15
AlexPortableSurendil: yes but where in compiz settings, can't find it14:15
Surendilgnome, kde or xfce?14:16
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AlexPortableunity14:18
AlexPortableI meant the animation the left bar14:18
kubuntu89fuxAlexPortable: try ubuntutweak14:18
AlexPortablekubuntu89fux: can't find it there either14:22
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  what do you want to do14:23
AlexPortablewhen i minimize a window, i get an animation poping up in the unity left bar14:24
AlexPortablebut this distracts me14:24
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/138622/how-to-disable-all-unity-animations#16963414:30
AlexPortable"I assume you are talking about the naimations where the launcher blurs"14:30
AlexPortableno14:30
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Qadri  14:45
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AlexPortableAny way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?14:49
Andres2helo i have 1 o mor problems.14:51
Andres21 need repair grub but required a live-usb14:51
Andres22 the usb live say failed to load com32 file menu.c32 (search in google and say " copy file in to root usb" but don work)14:51
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/386651/how-can-i-turn-off-animations-in-ubuntu-13-10 also for 14.04/14.10 , install unity-tweak14:51
OerHeksAlexPortable, ^^14:51
Andres2unetbin dont write,download files ...14:52
AlexPortableOerHeks: nope, still shows the animation14:52
OerHeksAlexPortable, maybe you need to logout/login to make it work14:53
AlexPortablei did14:53
OerHeksworks here14:53
AlexPortablestill shows the minimize animation in the unity bar14:53
AlexPortableAlso in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\14:57
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  sunny weather in Sillicon Valley, i guess14:58
AlexPortable?14:58
squintyAndres2:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/1190256  seems there is some current info there15:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1190256 in UNetbootin "USB drive is created successfully, but fails to boot" [Undecided,New]15:00
Andres2i say ... copy files and don work15:01
White_CatI can't ping google.com (unknown host). But I can ping IP addresses.15:02
White_Catwhy could this be?15:02
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  that's a adns issue15:02
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  that's a a dns issue15:02
White_Catwell, how can i fix it15:03
White_Cathow can I specify fns?15:03
White_Cat*dns15:03
tuannvps01907a15:03
White_CatI can just configure it to 8.8.8.8 but I dont know how15:03
daftykinsWhite_Cat: does this problem persist after a reboot?15:04
White_Catyes15:04
daftykinsWhite_Cat: what type of computer is this? how do you connect to the internet?15:05
fa7ad#ajenti15:06
squintyAndres2:  then use the dd method or check out pendrivelinux.com for alternate methods/software.15:06
White_Catdaedeloth its a hyper-v machine15:06
White_Catit connects through lan15:06
White_Catthere is internet on the lan and the computer can connect to ips15:06
fa7adsomebody walk me through on how to get openvpn to work with ajenti please15:06
squintyfa7ad:  there is #openvpn channel here on freenode15:09
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daftykinsWhite_Cat: ok you can resolve DNS by first removing the package resolvconf, then rebooting, then put the line "nameserver 8.8.8.8" into /etc/resolv.conf15:10
acerspyroAs a follow-up to the question I asked yesterday, I can't alt tab out of fullscreen GLX or SDL applications. Blender uses GLX, and pretty much all games use SDL.15:12
acerspyroBut I have no idea what causes some apps to display in the wrong position when maximized.15:13
AlexPortableAlso in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\15:13
AlexPortableAny way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?15:13
acerspyroAlexPortable: Compiz settings15:14
acerspyroYou need to install an application for that tho15:14
AlexPortablewhere in compiz settings?15:14
acerspyroNowhere, you need to install it15:15
acerspyroBecause, who knows, somebody didn't want users to figure out how to change advanced settings without a Google...15:15
AlexPortableI've spent a couple of hours googling15:16
AlexPortableTried several tools15:16
acerspyroI spent two minutes, but that's just me, because I knew what Compiz was.15:16
AlexPortableyou mean ccsm?15:17
acerspyrocompizconfig15:17
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acerspyrosudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager15:17
acerspyroI wonder why the sudo command isn't implied when you run apt-get...15:18
AlexPortableand then launch compizconfig?15:18
White_Catdaftykins how can I remove the package? sudo apt-get uninstall resolvconf ?15:18
acerspyroUh, type "compiz" and press tab15:18
daftykinsapt-get remove resolvconf15:18
daftykinsWhite_Cat: ^15:18
White_Catah remove15:18
daftykinsWhite_Cat: why is it a hyper-V host, are you in education?15:19
AlexPortableacerspyro: compiz or compiz-decorator ?15:19
acerspyroAlexPortable: Did you install it%15:19
acerspyro?*15:19
AlexPortableyes15:19
AlexPortablesudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager15:19
White_Catdaftykins because I am testing something15:19
acerspyrocompizconfig15:19
White_Catlive server will come later15:19
AlexPortablecompizconfig: command not found15:19
White_Catin the meanwhile I dont want to spend all my time next to the water cooler looking like an idiot :)15:20
acerspyrohttp://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2756/ubuntu_install_compiz_config_settings_manager_configure_desktop_effects/15:20
daftykinsWhite_Cat: water cooler 0o15:20
AlexPortableok found it15:20
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AlexPortableit was in the start menu15:20
White_Catit cools water :p15:20
acerspyro>Start menu15:20
acerspyroWhat's a start menu?15:20
AlexPortablethe button you press to start applications15:20
White_Catits the button that existed since the 90s15:20
AlexPortableleft top corner15:21
acerspyroYou can'T access your computer when it's turned off, how could you have a menu to start it? :P15:21
White_Catit exists in windows and ubuntu desktop15:21
AlexPortableit doesn't starts hardware15:21
AlexPortableit starts software15:21
AlexPortablehow can you access a menu when your computer is turned off?15:21
White_Catacerspyro 'd appreciate if you dont confuse people asking for help more :p15:21
acerspyroWhite_Cat: It's not a start button15:21
AlexPortablewhat is it then?15:21
acerspyroIt's the Unity button15:21
AlexPortablea shutdown button?15:21
AlexPortableand in windows 8 it's the metro / modern ui button15:22
AlexPortableand on windows 7 it was the start button15:22
acerspyroYeah whatevs15:22
AlexPortableand on mac os it's finder button15:22
AlexPortablew/e15:22
White_Catacerspyro, and your seat cussion cant be used as a flotation device either but you do not see me complaining15:22
acerspyroUnity button.15:22
AlexPortableanyway15:22
MonkeyDustit'sz called HUD in Unity15:22
AlexPortablehow do I disable the unity minimize animation?15:22
AlexPortablei clicked unity in compizconfig15:23
White_Catthere is a module for that IIRC but I never used it15:23
acerspyroAlso, title bars disappear during animation, is this normal?15:23
White_Catrather I always use ubuntu-server15:23
White_Catno UI :/15:23
webb1wdhello guys.I have a problem which i think is small for you.I installed a new hdd on my ubuntu pc.I changed the sata ports of the hdd,on the motherboard.The first time i power on the pc i got stuck on the listing pci devices screen(its an old cpc)15:24
daftykins*GUI not UI ;)15:24
daftykinswebb1wd: change them back15:24
webb1wdthen i went to bios and changed order to boot from and it worked allright15:24
AlexPortablealso i don't mean window animation15:24
AlexPortablei mean animation poping up in the left bar15:24
webb1wdthanks daftykins for your answer,i have already slolved this problem and i thought i might be important for the upcoming problem.15:25
webb1wdnow i get to ubuntu to startup and i get "Gave up waiting for root device error"15:26
daftykinswebb1wd: ok, i shall wait for the actual question15:26
msingh_#zinc15:26
daftykinswebb1wd: so did you have adisk with an old install, then you plugged in the new one and installed a clean ubuntu to that new disk?15:26
acerspyromsingh_: nup, u phail, try again.15:26
daftykinsacerspyro: don't make useless comments15:27
acerspyroD: you guys have no sense of humor.15:27
webb1wddaftykins i just added a new disk,it says smthng about uuid.15:27
acerspyro>This is not a channel for humor15:27
daftykinswebb1wd: so the new disk is storage only?15:27
acerspyroThen it's lifeless15:27
AlexPortableAlso in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\15:28
webb1wddaftykins yes,untouched15:28
daftykinsacerspyro: we do, but the place for stupid chatter is in #ubuntu-offtopic - this channel is for support only. so please buck up15:28
webb1wddaftykins maybe tell it to see for another uuid ?15:28
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  in windows everything is more sharp, why is this?15:28
acerspyroHrm. That channel is the toughest channel I've seen on Freenode. So seriopus it's inhuman, but w/e15:28
daftykinswebb1wd: did the SATA cable juggling involve moving the OS disk away from being in a more primary port number?15:28
AlexPortableMonkeyDust: thanks for rephrasing my question15:29
acerspyroAlexPortable: What do you mean it's "more sharp"?15:29
acerspyroIt happens faster?15:29
AlexPortableno15:29
AlexPortableon ubuntu it's like someone put something on my screen15:29
webb1wddaftykins im not sure mate.15:29
daftykinssounds like it's not running at your screen's native resolution15:29
acerspyro?15:29
AlexPortableit is15:30
AlexPortable1366x76815:30
acerspyroAlexPortable: Are you sure?15:30
AlexPortableyes15:30
acerspyroIt looks sharp here, pixel for pixel15:30
webb1wd<daftykins i did so i could get the cables better organised.15:30
daftykinswebb1wd: if you boot a live session you can check your UUIDs versus what's in your /etc/fstab file to see if they need updating15:30
daftykinswebb1wd: there's no reason they should have changed though15:30
acerspyrowebb1wd: Please start typing the username, and then press tab instead of copy-pasting their name.15:30
webb1wdacerspyro: ok15:31
AlexPortablewindows is just more crisp15:31
webb1wddaftykins: thanks i will now burn a dvd.15:31
acerspyroAlexPortable: imho, it's ugly.15:31
AlexPortableso?15:31
daftykinswebb1wd: ISO on a flash drive would be nicer if you have any :)15:32
acerspyroAnd that's how Windows is. Crisp.15:32
daftykinsAlexPortable: maybe you can take pictures, i don't understand what you mean at all, nor does anyone else it seems15:32
acerspyroIt's an art style. So is Ubuntu's fade effects.15:32
webb1wddaftykins: my computer is too old for that :S.i have tried it im not sure why it doesnt boot it,its a 2005 pc.15:32
daftykinswebb1wd: ah - do you remember which ubuntu version you have on there?15:33
AlexPortablehmm i need something i can compare15:33
webb1wddaftykins: yes 14.0415:33
daftykinswebb1wd: good stuff.15:33
daftykinswebb1wd: i'll be back shortly, if you're ready in the meantime just ask the channel that you want to compare UUIDs to /etc/fstab if you need more assistance :)15:34
squintywebb1wd:  fwiw, if your unit won't boot from usb then you might consider burning a "plop" cd which when booted first will allow the computer to boot from usb.  http://www.plop.at/en/home.html15:34
Pinkie_Pylonhi guys, having problems with sama15:35
Pinkie_Pylonsamba*15:35
webb1wdsquinty: wow!thanks very much i never knew about that ill certainly try it.15:36
SchrodingersScatmy problem with samba is normally windows15:36
Pinkie_Pyloni think it's ubuntu in this case actually15:36
Pinkie_Pyloni have a share set up using the built-in nautilus local network share tool on my LAN15:36
acerspyroPinkie_Pylon: Ask a real question, not an affirmation15:36
AlexPortabledaftykins: http://img.nl.eu.org/EiYUpW.png15:37
Pinkie_Pylonwell, can I link my askubuntu question?15:37
AlexPortableleft = ubuntu, right = windows15:37
AlexPortablethere is some blur over ubuntu15:37
acerspyroAlexPortable: Emulator?15:37
acerspyroYou could have said it, that's why, it's in no way Ubuntu'S fault.15:37
ansivirusAlexPortable, not gonna lie, I don't really see blur..15:38
acerspyroNeither do I15:38
AlexPortablewhat do you mean emulator?15:38
daftykinsAlexPortable: it's a different level of sub pixel rendering, look into whether you can tweak it. i have no idea15:38
AlexPortablethe left it's not sharp15:38
acerspyroIf you like, you can change the antialiasing style for the font15:38
AlexPortablewhile the text on the right is15:38
acerspyroDepends on your monitor.15:39
bahaxhi, is there a way to make apt-get tell me from which source it's going to install a specific package?15:39
AlexPortableacerspyro: well, i made a screenshot on windows, and one on ubuntu, and then moved them to the same machine15:39
Pinkie_Pylonhere is my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/543634/problems-with-folder-permissions-using-samba15:39
AlexPortableso how does that depends on my monitor or system?15:39
OerHeksi guess that window is buzy, AlexPortable, just be patient15:39
AlexPortablebuzy?15:39
acerspyroAlexPortable: Ok, still, all you have to do is change your font antialiasing style15:39
daftykinsAlexPortable: myself and acerspyro have already told you what's up.15:40
AlexPortableacerspyro:  how?15:40
* acerspyro googles for someone else again15:40
acerspyroAlexPortable: http://superuser.com/questions/819535/what-exactly-is-the-difference-between-grayscale-and-rgba-font-anti-aliasing15:41
acerspyrolook at that GUI, it's in the Compiz settings menu15:41
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: did you create this other user prior to creating an smb password for it?15:41
P-NuTAnyone getting this? http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=780115:42
Pinkie_Pylonshouldn't have to on 14.04 IIRC but yes, it's a unix user with the same password as the smb user15:42
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: and none of these systems are in homegroups on Windows? those break things15:42
OerHeksP-NuT, CentOS is not supported here.15:42
Pinkie_Pylonchecking the logs for the second user I'm getting permission denied when they tried to access the folder, which is hosted in /media/james/shared15:43
Pinkie_Pylonwhat command can I use to give everyone read and write access to that folder?15:43
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: you've added both users to a group, chown'd that path to the group and allowed relevant permissions yes?15:43
AlexPortableacerspyro:  greyscale / rgb doesn't really matters15:44
acerspyroAlexPortable: try other options15:44
acerspyro*checks what Windows is using*15:44
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, i'm a bit crap with unix so bear with me. the unix user is in the group sambashare15:44
Pinkie_Pyloni'm just wondering if there is a unix command I can give to allow everyone access to the /shared folder15:44
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: pastebin the output of "ls -al /path/shared"15:45
Pinkie_Pylonthis is on a home LAN anyway so not much risk15:45
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Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, will do15:45
lotuspsychjeis there a GUI for upstart system services?15:45
squintyPinkie_Pylon:  might want to consider installing and checking out   system-config-samba15:45
geirhaPinkie_Pylon: add all users you consider "everyone" to that group. Do NOT make it world writable15:45
daftykinsfirst off stop saying unix :P, second - it'd be samba that can share as guest only, not permissions15:45
rashkovAnyone know what purpose dnsmasq serves in Ubuntu? It seems like it could be used as a DHCP server or for DNS caching. However DHCP isn't configured and its DNS cache is turned off. It seems to have something to do with NetworkManager but I don't know what purpose it would serve there.15:45
White_CatMail delivery failed via SMTP server 'localhost'.15:45
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: ^15:45
White_Catis this normal?15:45
White_CatI am using sudo apt-get install postfix15:46
Pinkie_Pylonhttp://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM15:47
AlexPortableacerspyro: which other options?15:47
acerspyroidk not on my computer right now15:47
acerspyro:D15:47
AlexPortableah15:48
acerspyroAlexPortable: Go explore and figure it out?15:48
AlexPortableok15:48
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, http://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM15:48
AlexPortablewhen installing ubuntu, do i have to choose UEFI or BIOS?15:48
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: yeah so you've got a permission and group mess there15:48
acerspyroAlexPortable: Depends on your BIOS type15:48
Pinkie_Pylonthought as much, resulted from failed attempts to grant access15:49
acerspyroNewer computers usually use UEFI15:49
acerspyroif you don't pick the right one, it usually won't boot15:49
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, thought so. is there a command that will soft it out?15:49
averagehttp://i.imgur.com/o9hbYA9.jpg15:49
acerspyroOh, another question, is it possible to do BIOS upgrades under Linux?15:49
averagethat's really probably the worst photo I've seen15:49
acerspyroaverage: lol15:49
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: add your two users to a group, chown the path with that group, then set the group permissions to allow read and write as appropriate15:49
OerHekswrong channel, average15:50
averageOerHeks: i won't insist on that picture..15:50
acerspyroaverage: Run, people be gettin' mad!15:50
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: first up "sudo chown -R user:group /media/james/shared" would bea good start15:50
AlexPortableacerspyro: well i have both15:50
acerspyroAlexPortable: ?15:50
averageacerspyro: i'm not running15:50
AlexPortablei can choose between uefi and bios boot15:50
averageacerspyro: so did you see the pic. did you like it ?15:50
lotuspsychje!ot | average15:51
ubottuaverage: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:51
OerHeks!ot > average15:51
daftykinsaverage: you're off topic, leave please.15:51
ubottuaverage, please see my private message15:51
acerspyrohaha15:51
acerspyroAlexPortable: in your BIOS, you mean?15:51
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, done15:51
averagewell, if you say it's so.. i guess i have to pack my bags and go15:51
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daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: you substituted 'user' and 'group' appropriately yeah?15:52
acerspyrojack: We clearly saw that15:52
AlexPortableacerspyro: in the multiboot selection menu15:52
acerspyroAlexPortable: In Ubuntu?15:52
AlexPortableno in my computer15:52
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Guest20817daftykins: did you see what i did there ? ^^15:52
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, i used the group sambashare and did the command both for myself and the other user that i'm using15:52
acerspyroAlexPortable: Very descriptive15:52
AlexPortablewhen i turn it on i can choose: UEFI: USBSTICK 4GB and BIOS: USBSTICK 4GB15:52
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Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, and then rebooted smbd and nmbd15:52
acerspyroOh, I thought you were wondering what kind of GRUB to install, mape yourself clear15:53
acerspyromake*15:53
acerspyropick whichever you want15:53
OerHeksAlexPortable, so what did you choose last time?15:53
acerspyroflip a coin15:53
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: command? you can't haha, you can't set two different users on the same path. the users must be *members* of the group15:53
AlexPortableOerHeks: last time i didn't had uefi15:53
AlexPortableOerHeks: also on my other laptop with uefi it went wrong15:53
OerHeks!uefi15:53
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:53
OerHeksread that manual first i guess15:53
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, what should I do if I have two users that want to have the same permissions for the same folder then?15:53
acerspyroOerHeks: ty15:54
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: what i just said above.15:54
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, so do I leave the user blank? just do sudo chown -R :sambashare /path15:54
acerspyroI would love to fix my maximized window problem someday...15:54
Pinkie_Pylonboth users are members of the group15:55
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: just see if you can get in your test folder now. my battery's going so i'll be back shortly15:55
AlexPortable" If the BIOS is set up to boot the CD in EFI mode, then you will see the screen below: "15:56
AlexPortablei have that15:56
AlexPortablehttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png15:56
daftykinsAlexPortable: you've been in here for weeks, surely you have an install already15:57
AlexPortabledaftykins: yes, surely on an old pc15:57
Guest93716Hello All! Is there anyway I can have a different background for each of my monitors in ubuntu??15:57
AlexPortablewhere i don't have to deal with UEFI crap15:57
acerspyroGuest93716: I think so15:58
lotuspsychjeAlexPortable: make your life easy and install ubuntu on single hd15:58
AlexPortablelotuspsychje: well then how can i run battlefield 3?15:58
acerspyroGuest93716: or not? Display settings?15:58
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lotuspsychjeAlexPortable: make another box for gaming only15:59
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, still no joy i'm afraid15:59
AlexPortablelotuspsychje: give me the money for it15:59
AlexPortablealso i't s annoying to move 2 laptops along to school15:59
dreamercountryhi16:00
daftykinsPinkie_Pylon: ok collect logs together and pastebin relevant sections and i'll bbl16:00
whoppaz13acerspyro: I looked into display settings and it only lets me have 1 background for all my monitors =/16:00
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, gotcha16:00
acerspyrowhoppaz13: Hm. I know it's possible on KDE, but on GNOME...16:00
dreamercountryHow about the chatroom ?16:00
whoppaz13acerspyro:  you think there might be a package or somehting out there?? I'm using Unity16:01
acerspyrowhoppaz13: I found Nitrogen with a quick google16:01
acerspyrohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/390367/using-different-wallpapers-on-multiple-monitors-gnome-2-compiz16:01
whoppaz13acerspyro: ok cool I'll try that out then.  Thanks =)16:02
acerspyronp16:02
AlexPortable"This computer currently has no detected operating system. What would you like to do?"16:03
acerspyro"find one"16:03
AlexPortableacerspyro: how do i tell it that?16:04
acerspyroYou don't, it's a joke16:04
AlexPortable...16:04
Pinkie_Pylondaftykins, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv16:04
nicolaciao16:05
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entrerihello, I would like to use Ubuntu but with TWM windows manager. How to disable the main current desktop environment and the login screen ?16:06
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AlexPortableso how can I install ubuntu without removing windows 8?16:10
liolinhow to change the password...16:10
P_O_I_S_O_Nubuntu is not bootup . just blank screen im seeing ? how to trouble shoot it16:10
AlexPortableliolin: sudo passwd username16:10
FleetflameAlexPortable: do you have a DVD with the ubuntu .iso?16:11
AlexPortablelive usb16:12
jee1mrAlexPortable: Dual boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot16:12
AlexPortable"Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". "16:13
AlexPortablei dont have this16:13
jee1mrAlexPortable: Did you create a partition ?16:13
AlexPortableno16:13
AlexPortablethe problem is that im stuck with this uefi crap16:14
jee1mrAlexPortable: Go to windows. Create an empty partition of at least 10gb. Boot your usb. Then select the option "do something else"16:14
AlexPortablecan't I create the partition in ubuntu?16:14
A1ReconWhen I go to All Settings>Network>Options.... The options menu does not open up. Also the ethernet/network icon does not show up near the date. I am running ubuntu 14.04. I think the problem might be that I put in a command like "sudo apt-get uninstall *<dont-remember-name>" and this removed more than half of the stuff on my system.16:15
jee1mrYou're going to install ubuntu in this partition.16:15
AlexPortableyes16:15
A1ReconHow do i get them back??16:15
AlexPortablebut can't i create the partition from inside ubuntu live usb16:15
frodopwnsare there any passable ways to get exchange mail to work with ubuntu 14.04?16:16
jee1mrAlexPortable: No, I guess. I am not sure. Just check.16:16
MonkeyDustfrodopwns  isnt that windows? if yes, try !wine, or a linux native program16:17
nopffrodopwns: you want to read and write mails from/to an exchange server?16:17
MonkeyDustif that doesnt work*16:17
frodopwnsnopf: i want to be able to accept meeting requests and have them added to a calendar like in osx and windows16:18
squintyAlexPortable:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  see what applies to you unit.  gparted is included with the live dvd.  you can prepartition with it before starting the livedvd installation proceedure16:19
frodopwnshmm, use wine to run outlook?16:19
jee1mrAlexPortable: You can.16:19
AlexPortableis it bad to partition inside the instlalation ?16:19
AlexPortableand should i use gparted or doesn't it really matters?16:19
guzzi_jonesparititioning in the installation is prefered16:19
guzzi_jonespretty robust partitioner16:20
AlexPortablei don't have to make antoher uefi partition right?16:20
MonkeyDustfrodopwns  orage calendar can do that16:20
suneeneed help.my pc takes to much time start up.how to fix it?16:20
guzzi_jonesi do not know what uefi is16:21
AlexPortableguzzi_jones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI16:21
MonkeyDustsunee  what ubuntu release? what is "too much time"?16:21
frodopwnsMonkeyDust: cool i will check it out16:21
guzzi_jonesalexportable, it seems like an interface to the disk instead of bios16:22
AlexPortableyes16:22
frodopwnsMonkeyDust: can that run in unity? says its for xfce16:22
guzzi_jonesno you should be able to partition inside a uefi container i would think16:22
entreri`/join #xubuntu16:22
MonkeyDustfrodopwns  yes, i have it, together with orage world clock16:22
guzzi_jonesit should not be an issue or have any negative affects.16:23
nopffrodopwns: "I think this is one of the most prominent unsolved problems in IT" ...  more at http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/98/calendar-application-for-linux-that-plays-well-with-outlook-and-exchange16:23
frodopwnsi decided to switch to a linux laptop at work but email is an issue :-(16:23
MonkeyDustfrodopwns  nopf 's solution looks better than mine16:24
MonkeyDustsunee  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/16:25
sacarlsonfrodopwns: google has cool email, why would you need more than what they provide16:26
frodopwnssacarlson: I do use gmail but i need to get my work email to function within google for that to work16:27
giov!list16:27
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frodopwnswarez lol, havent seen that word in a while16:28
lotuspsychjefrodopwns: yes they still exist :p16:29
lancelot_ofhi there16:29
sacarlsonwow I don't know what I did but sudenly all my keystrokes come out as thai letters accept for this pidgin app.  what combo of keystroke might have done that16:29
AlexPortableWell when in stalling ubuntu on uefi system16:29
AlexPortablewhat is mount point?16:30
lancelot_ofi've a laptop without a middle button touchpad, how do i paste teerminal selection into other apps, such as thunderbird of firefox? Shift+Insert does not work for these applications. Ubuntu 14.0416:30
sacarlsonwow I found it, so small I couldn't see it the en th at the bottom of the screen16:31
jee1mrAlexPortable: "/"16:32
AlexPortablejee1mr: not /dev/sda2 ?16:32
AlexPortablebecause that's where efi partition from windows is16:32
sacarlsonfrodopwns: what does your work use for email protocol?  like pop3?  that can also be read with gmail google mail16:33
guzzi_jonesalexportable, you will need to first create a partition using gparted in order to install16:33
guzzi_jonesyou cannot repartition your current machine using the installer16:33
frodopwnssacarlson: exchange16:33
AlexPortablei already did guzzi_jones16:33
AlexPortablerepartition using installer16:34
AlexPortablemade my windows partition 130 gb smaller16:34
AlexPortablenow putting an partition on the free space16:34
guzzi_jonesok.. didn't know you could do that.16:34
guzzi_jonesok so what is your question16:34
jee1mrAlexPortable: Oh cool. Now click on + button below16:34
AlexPortableyes16:34
AlexPortablebut it asks me for mount point16:34
lancelot_ofno suggestions for me?16:34
jee1mrAlexPortable: Select the type as swap. And give it as 2-4 fb16:34
AlexPortablewhy only 4 gb?16:35
jee1mrAlexPortable: It's swap.16:35
AlexPortableI have 8 gb internal ram16:35
jee1mrOk.. Then select 8gb. It doesn't matter, I guess.16:36
sacarlsonfrodopwns: microsoft exchange can be imported into gmail, ms exchange uses standard imap or pop3 format that gmail can handle16:37
jee1mrAlexPortable: After swap is done, create a new parition with filesystem type ext4 and mount point as "/"16:37
sacarlsonfrodopwns: https://support.google.com/a/answer/57920?hl=en16:37
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sacarlsonfrodopwns: but linux has other apps that can also read imap and pop3,  gmail is just my personal preference16:38
julianofischerAlexPortable jeelmr it is interesting swap having at minimum the RAM size16:39
frodopwnssacarlson: i lso need to be able to accept meeting invitations via mail16:39
AlexPortable8 gb ram <-> 8 gb swap16:39
AlexPortablewhich device for boot loader installation ?16:39
julianofischerAlexPortable jeelmr in order to hibernate the computer successfully16:39
AlexPortablecomputer stores hibernate on swap partition?16:40
Pinkie_Pylonanyone here good with samba and permissions?16:40
jee1mrjulianofischer: Oh Alright16:40
AlexPortableso i should have 16 gb swap?16:40
julianofischeryes16:40
AlexPortableok16:40
AlexPortableand which device for boot loader installation?16:40
sacarlsonfrodopwns: oh maybe you have some meeting deal integrated into exchange like google has the google calender but I'm not sure if import for that is suported16:40
julianofischerI think something higher than RAM its better16:40
whoppaz13Nitrogen doesn't seem to work for the seperate backgrounds in ubuntu 14.04 and unity.  Would this work beter with either KDE or Gnome?16:40
MonkeyDustwhoppaz13  try it to find out16:42
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: samba is not my best subject but I can take a wack at it16:42
alevosiahey there16:42
Pinkie_Pyloni'm getting issues with file permissions16:42
Pinkie_Pylonsacarlson, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv16:42
Pinkie_Pylonthere is logs and stuff there16:42
alevosiadoes anyone know the command to copy the same file to all folders in the system with a certain name?16:42
alevosiamaybe creating first a file with each path to all of those folders (grep?) and then using as an input to the cp command?16:45
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: seems I see the permisions of what is insided shares but not what the directory it self is set to16:45
MonkeyDustalevosia  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #bash16:45
alevosiaook, thankx16:45
Pinkie_Pylonsacarlson, /hsared is set to drwxrwxrwx 6 james sambashare 409616:46
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: ok16:46
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: and no user can see it from samba?16:47
Pinkie_Pylonsacarlson, one user can see the shared folder and access it and write to it etc16:47
Pinkie_Pylonthe other one can only see it and can't access it through windows without getting permission denied16:47
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: I'm not sure.  makes more sense if windows could read it but not write it, but it an view directory but can't read or write files16:50
Pinkie_Pylonno16:50
Pinkie_Pylonit can't view the directory either16:50
Pinkie_Pylonit can see it in Network>\\SERVER in windows explorer16:50
Pinkie_Pylonthere's a folder in there called "shared"16:50
Pinkie_Pylonand I can access and have full perms from one account on one machine16:51
Pinkie_Pylonand i can still see it, but can't open it or write to it on the other machine using the other user account16:51
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: ok16:51
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OerHeksPinkie_Pylon, likely an windows issue https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/fb269dda-2cc6-40c0-8449-3c3d4c697a33/windows-7-cannot-access-samba-shares?forum=w7itpronetworking16:52
Pinkie_PylonOerHeks, how come a win8 machine can access it then?16:53
sacarlsonPinkie_Pylon: nope it's too late and had too many beers.  I personly prefer file sharing with ssh as it's never givin me the problems I've had with samba16:53
Pinkie_PylonOerHeks, i'm getting chdir permission denied in the samba logs16:53
sacarlsonOerHeks: from what user name?16:53
OerHeksPinkie_Pylon, so it is a windows7 issue16:54
sacarlsonOerHeks: back in the days I recall I had to set samba config to force the windows box to be a certain user as they don' t have user names like linux16:54
OerHeksmaybe workgroup ?16:54
Pinkie_PylonOerHeks, i will try the marked answer in that thread brb16:54
entrerihey there, how to disable a service with upstart ???16:55
entreriI want to disable the desktop environment from booting16:55
entreriwhy is it so obscure ?16:56
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lotuspsychjeentreri: i found a handy package to enable/disable services, but not all system services16:57
SarumanPuissantUbuntu is bloated with malware, it has just been proved. Please act.16:57
lotuspsychje!info jobs-admin | entreri16:57
ubottuentreri: jobs-admin (source: jobs-admin): system job management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 14 kB, installed size 137 kB16:57
lotuspsychjeSarumanPuissant: proved by whom?16:57
imbezolentreri: it seems like they're half way through switching from initv to systemd so half the stuff is in one spot half in the other16:57
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SarumanPuissantlotuspsychje: Bruce Schneier16:58
imbezolentreri: and the tools that were used to config startup services have mostly been made obsolete16:58
lotuspsychjeSarumanPuissant: url?16:58
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MonkeyDustSarumanPuissant  please bring your sources and proof to #ubuntu-offtopic16:58
lotuspsychjeimbezol: do you know any GUI for upstart?16:58
SarumanPuissantI will as soon as OP upload the content16:58
sacarlsonentreri: it's best you tell us what app you want to disable as there is two basic upstart methods now ,  the old and the new.  so depening on the age of some apps it could be setup with /etc/init or etc/init.d methods16:59
Pinkie_PylonOerHeks, no change, do those things need a reboot to work?16:59
lotuspsychjesacarlson: i also interested in this issue and found no way to disable CUPS yet16:59
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harovalihi, I've installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit in a 2gb of ram machine. However, the 'free' command acknowledges 1.5gb. I thought I 'd have these sort of problems with a 32 bit version, but not with a 64 bit. Any hint is welcome17:00
lotuspsychjesacarlson: i already tryed remove from update-rc.d but no luck, still shows running in pstree17:00
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: did you try echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override17:00
daftykinsharovali: "cat /proc/meminfo" would be more relevant there17:01
entrerisacarlson: I just wanted to disable the Desktop environment, xfce for me right now17:01
SarumanPuissantramène toi nW44b !!17:01
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lotuspsychjesacarlson: just did the command, ill check next boot17:01
sacarlsonentreri: oh ok so you want it to run like a linux server in text mode?17:01
imbezollotuspsychje: did you reboot or stop the service after? i don't think telling it not to start by default will actually stop the running service17:01
lotuspsychjeimbezol: yes i rebooted after17:02
Guest53052Is Ubuntu-Gnome known to be broken? I have terrible issues with getting X to display anything but a black screen.17:02
lotuspsychjeimbezol: but i did the 'remove' command from update-rc.d, not the upstart manual trick17:02
entrerisacarlson: I want to get rid of the desktop environment and the login screen and replace it with manually starting up Xorg with a lightweight window manager17:03
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lotuspsychjeimbezol: i was looking for something easy GUI to disable services17:03
sacarlsonentreri: you might try update-rc.d -f xdm remove  see if that does the trick17:03
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sacarlsonentreri: oh wait don't do what I just said then17:04
lotuspsychjeentreri: why not just install your wanted Wm and start grub with 'quiet splash' off17:04
imbezollotuspsychje: well i'd like to hear the official answer on how to control services from someone at ubuntu too. my experience is that it's currently very disjointed and truthfully a mess.. but then i may not be looking in the right spot17:04
squintytext17:05
sweebHey entreri you could add [[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx17:05
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ubottuHFSPLUS, please see my private message17:05
ubottuHFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang17:05
imbezollotuspsychje: i miss /etc/init.d/ and /etc/inittab17:05
sweebto your bashrc or zshrc17:05
sacarlsonentreri: I'm not sure what this lightweight window manager  is,  so you want to replace xfe not just stop it then17:05
lotuspsychjeimbezol: i think the newest way for ubuntu is the upstart way..but looks complex to me17:05
lotuspsychjeimbezol: i found most services in jobs-admin package17:06
imbezolhttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/17:06
lotuspsychjeimbezol: yes also seen that one, but very complex to understand17:06
imbezolhttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/17:07
lotuspsychjeimbezol: if you find a nice package to easy disable/enable lemme know :p17:07
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: there is basicly only two upstart like methods unless it's a network related process then it might be a bit different17:07
entrerisacarlson: I would like to boot in command line, and startx myself with a proper .xinitrc (where I can put my startup commands in for X server)17:08
Guest53052I'd love it if I could get some help to fix my Xorg. I think specifically I might need a way to reconfigure Xorg from a tty, since that's all I have. But I'm really not sure.17:08
sacarlsonentreri: oh ok if thats the case then my method above should work to get you to pre X server mode at boot17:08
lotuspsychjesacarlson: i just wanted to tweak my system for unwanted services at boot, as this is a netbook i dont need cups printing17:09
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: ya there should be some gui that also can take care of a bunch of those unneeded processes.  I just don't recall the gui packages name17:10
lotuspsychje!info jobs-admin | sacarlson17:10
ubottusacarlson: jobs-admin (source: jobs-admin): system job management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 14 kB, installed size 137 kB17:10
lotuspsychjesacarlson: unfortunatly cups does not show enabled on there17:10
EnginAis there a recommended document to make ubuntu least memory intensive? I have 2g of memory on this laptop and all I want is to use it as a set top box (like kiosk). Any recommended guidelines? (the doc i found for less memory usage was from 2005)17:10
EnginAI want to launch an app upon reboot and that's all17:11
lotuspsychje!swap | EnginA17:11
ubottuEnginA: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info17:11
MonkeyDustEnginA  try a light DE like xfce or lxde17:11
lotuspsychje!info preload | EnginA17:11
ubottuEnginA: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (utopic), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB17:11
lotuspsychjeEnginA: also look into swappiness tweak17:11
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: so I guess cups moved to the new upstart method that this app hasn't grown into yet maybe17:11
lotuspsychjesacarlson: i think thats the logic indeed17:12
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sacarlsonlotuspsychje: I just installed your jobs app and I'm checking it out now17:12
lotuspsychjesacarlson: maybe ubuntu philosophy is any pc will need at least printing?17:12
MonkeyDustEnginA  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/17:12
Guest53052My situation in case anyone might care: I bought a GTX970. It needed a new driver to function. I installed the Nvidia one. After that, I could no longer get Xorg to show anything but a black screen. Tried lots of things. Gave up. Upgraded to 14.10. Installed latest Nvidia driver right away. Good for one boot, worked as it should. Shut down, started up, black screen. I took the card out and tried to use the onboard, still black screen.17:12
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: ha ha no I don't need it eather so I'll try disable it also17:13
lotuspsychjesacarlson: tnx for checking17:13
fux8989hi everyone :)17:13
Guest53052But I'm not sure if Xorg even knows it's supposed to use the onboard graphics. I don't know how to tell it to do that. I tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure it does anything. Changing the driver to intel or vesa does nothing it seems.17:13
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sacarlsonlotuspsychje: from a glance it looks to only support the /etc/init.d group of upstart (the old method) do apps you see in /etc/init  will probly not be supported with that17:14
lotuspsychjesacarlson: makes sense17:14
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: yes and I also note that the cups app is seen in /etc/init  the new upstart method17:15
lotuspsychjesacarlson: so we need a gui for /etc/init, lets google that stuff :p17:16
lotuspsychjesacarlson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services17:17
Guest53052Well, maybe someone could at least tell if if it's supposed to be possible to remove a GPU and start using the onboard one without any mucking around. Just a yes or no.17:17
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: ya a more advanced gui that supports both the old and the new17:17
lotuspsychjesacarlson: ls /etc/init/*.conf to lis them17:18
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: I just performed the terminal method to disalbe cups but it also required sudo su; echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override ; to do it17:19
lotuspsychjesacarlson: also just did that one, lets check next boot17:19
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: yes I already looked in that directory. so now find a gui to do it instead of the text method17:19
lotuspsychjesacarlson: would be interesting17:20
squintyGuest53052:  rename the xorg.conf file to get it out of the way.  try using the nomodeset parameter in the grub bootup screen. see if you can get to a desktop17:20
haidorahey there i am new for linux but i know how to use kali linux but now i am taking ubuntu instead of windows 8.1 any advices?17:20
Jeeves_Mossdoes anyone have the correct setting for AWStats in their apache config files? I can't get the icons directory to work correctly.17:20
squinty!nomodeset > squinty17:20
ubottusquinty, please see my private message17:20
Guest53052squinty, should Xorg work without xorg.conf?17:21
lotuspsychje!info sysv-rc-conf | sacarlson that seems also the old method17:21
ubottusacarlson that seems also the old method: sysv-rc-conf (source: sysv-rc-conf): SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-7 (utopic), package size 22 kB, installed size 83 kB17:21
pubhi there.. can anyone help me to set a permanent user name and password in irc17:21
squinty!nomodeset | Guest5305217:22
ubottuGuest53052: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:22
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sacarlsonentreri: did you try update-rc.d -f xdm  to disable your X desktop?17:22
haidorawhat is the best software centre for ubuntu?????17:22
squintyGuest53052:  for most cases, afaik, these days xorg.conf is not usually needed17:22
Guest53052squinty, thing is, it worked for one boot. But only one. Now I'm on the Intel onboard which works "out of the box" on this live USB stick, but only gives black screen when trying to boot from disk.17:22
squintyhaidora:  you desktop software center17:22
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: so you tried sysv-rc-conf already to verify it's also the old stuf?17:23
lotuspsychjesacarlson: yep, cups shows disabled there also17:23
squintyGuest53052:  not into playing the "the thing is game..." you asked a question and I responded. try the suggestion or not...up to you17:23
Guest53052squinty, sorry for questioning you. It's just that I have to leave the chat if I'm going to try anything.17:23
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haidorai need a software centre than can download more than one thing at the same time and in high speed17:24
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: oh but I didn't see cups in that gui that I installed, only stuf I saw in /etc/init.d was visable at all17:24
Guest53052All righty then...17:24
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: if you see cups in it then it must be the new upstart method gui17:25
lotuspsychjesacarlson: think you can choose 'hidden services' also17:25
M0thrahaidora: the software center can queue up things that will download17:25
lotuspsychjesacarlson: im not sure, because it shows disabled, and pstree shows it running17:26
entrerisacarlson: I will try it tonight at home, I'm at work : P17:26
Ryu_Fitzgeraldif in my /boot folder, I see grub instead of grub2.  Does that mean I installed the wrong one when I tried to do a boot repair17:26
sacarlsonentreri: ok17:26
lotuspsychje!info rcconf | sacarlson17:27
ubottusacarlson: rcconf (source: rcconf): Debian Runlevel configuration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 21 kB, installed size 110 kB17:27
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: no I don't see it here in jobs-admin any place.  I'll take a look at your sysv-rc-conf since you say you can see cups17:27
lotuspsychjesacarlson: that1 also shows cups disabled17:27
Ryu_Fitzgeralddoes anyone know this?17:28
imbezollotuspsychje: so after a tonne of reading it seems this is the official way17:30
imbezollotuspsychje: echo "manual" >> /etc/init/cups.override17:30
lotuspsychjeimbezol: tnx and that will work for the whole list of /etc/init?17:31
Loshki!grub217:31
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:31
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: well this rcconf is showing cups and also mysql but both are shown as disabled and I know mysql is active so something is wrong with this one17:31
imbezollotuspsychje: i believe so.. you're basically telling it that the service with /etc/init/cups.conf should also read the override file, and set the the startup method to manual only17:32
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lotuspsychjesacarlson: lets stick with imbezol and maybe no GUI method out yet...17:32
imbezollotuspsychje: initctl status cups17:32
lotuspsychjeimbezol: lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ initctl status cups17:32
lotuspsychjeinitctl: Unknown job: cups17:32
imbezollotuspsychje: initctl stop cups17:33
imbezollotuspsychje: hmm.. that's interesting17:33
lotuspsychjelol17:33
imbezollotuspsychje: ps fauxw | grep cups17:33
imbezolis it running?17:33
sacarlsonimbezol: lotuspsychje well if nothing works then I should write one as it should not be hard to do17:33
sacarlsonor at least fix some of these that should work17:33
lotuspsychjeimbezol: pstree shows cups and cups-browsed running17:34
lotuspsychjeimbezol: fauxw shows whole list17:34
lotuspsychjecups/notifier17:34
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imbezollotuspsychje: what do you get if you do "ls -ld /etc/init/cups*"17:36
lotuspsychjeimbezol: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  525 apr  8  2014 /etc/init/cups-browsed.conf17:37
lotuspsychje-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1815 apr 10  2014 /etc/init/cups.conf17:37
lotuspsychje-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    7 okt 30 18:01 /etc/init/cups.override17:37
DraginHow do I give myself permission to open and write to a file?17:37
lotuspsychjeimbezol, sacarlson try service --status-all17:39
lotuspsychjeimbezol: cups + cups-browsed running both +17:39
squintyDragin:  sudo nano <name of file>   or  gksu gedit <name of file>   latter is for gui apps  is one way17:40
Draginthanks17:40
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: mysql in service --status-all shows mysql as ?  so it doesn't know?17:40
lotuspsychjesacarlson: not sure what the ? is :p but + will be running for sure17:41
lotuspsychjesacarlson: maybe waiting ?17:41
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: just tried sudo sysv-rc-conf and it's the same with mysql shows as disabled, so not correct17:41
lotuspsychjesacarlson: indeed17:42
webb1wdhello guys.I booted with the live cd of ubuntu.I tried mounting /dev/sda/ with -t auto but it wouldnt mount then i tried with ext4,but nothing it wouldnt mount then i tried lsblk and at the fstype collum it didnt list anything only at the sdb1 which i succesfully mounted,after.Then i tried gdisk -l and it did list the 5 partitions on /dev/sda.What should i do to mount the disk?It also said the gpt table is damaged on /dev/sda but it w17:42
NokiabotAre drivers available foq gma 3600 ?17:42
webb1wd...that i can give it a file type.17:42
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: I think it might be because of something I did to networking that has messed it up.  it might be my custom mods make it not work17:43
dominik_hello guys, i have a question. Can u tell me how to use data from --inpputbox?17:43
dominik_--inputbox*17:43
NokiabotPowervr such a pain on linux17:43
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Way more details needed, including what is all there and end goal.17:43
lotuspsychjesacarlson, imbezol i think imbezol is right about this: https://scottlinux.com/2013/10/30/starting-and-stopping-services-at-boot-on-ubuntu-with-upstart/17:44
sacarlsonlotuspsychje: yes I'm confident that the term method works.  I just thought it strange in this day in age that we would have to resort to it without a gui at hand.  I think the gui also works in most cases17:46
webb1wdbubbasaures: ok i will give more details,my end goal is to mount the sda so i can see my fstab file.That is because i get "gave up waiting for root device"  when i boot ubuntu,it was saying something about uuid so i thought beacuase i installed new hdd maybe uuid changed.17:46
webb1wdbubbasaures: i didnt give more details,just end goal17:46
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bubbasaureswebb1wd, sda is the HD you want o mount the partition it is in.17:46
bubbasauresto*17:47
imbezollotuspsychje: strange that initctl status cups shows nothing for you17:47
lotuspsychjeimbezol: i tryed the 'remove' way from update-rc.d few days ago, maybe thats why?17:47
imbezollotuspsychje: what version of ubuntu are you running?17:47
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Easier to change in the booted ubuntu, is it not booting?17:47
lotuspsychjeimbezol: 14.04 64bit17:48
webb1wdbubbasaures: it has 5 partitions sda1,2,3,4,5....i want to mount sda2 when i try to mount  with mount it says it doesnt exist.17:48
squintywebb1wd:  maybe bring up Disks and see if it will mount from there17:48
bubbasaureswebb1wd, From a live if still there it should show in it's home, you would have to chroot to it, or root the fstab mount to change, easier done on a booted OS, does it boot?17:49
webb1wdbubbasaures: it is booting but then im getting something that http://i.stack.imgur.com/hTLuo.jpg except that dev/mapper/... isnt there on my it says something with uuid which is the hdd id.17:49
webb1wdsquinty: i will try that thanks!17:50
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lotuspsychje!info systemd-gui17:53
ubottusystemd-gui (source: systemd-ui (3-2)): transitional package for systemd-ui. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3-2 (utopic), package size 1 kB, installed size 26 kB17:53
haidorawhat is best apps for ubuntu?17:53
lotuspsychjehaidora: what do you need?17:53
vjlooking for a free dnla server on ubuntu. Any gud choices that support transcoding?17:54
haidoraia m new to ubuntu and replaced windows with it17:54
haidorai need some useful apps like xchat17:54
bubbasaureshaidora, look in the ubuntu software center for apps.17:55
haidoracan i download more than one app at the same time in ubuntu software centre??17:55
bubbasaureshaidora, In general any app in linux or most have other versions, E.G video media players.17:55
webb1wdbubbasaures: sorry mate but i cant understand what you mean by "in its home".:S17:56
bubbasaureshaidora, I would learn apt-get for installing you install as much as you want at one time.17:57
haidoraok thanks17:57
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Home is in the left panel, a file structure not rooted, has a left side panel that should show the internal hard drives partitions17:58
vjHi, I am new to ubuntu and looking for a dnla compliant media server on ubuntu17:58
vji am running ubuntu 14.04 desktop17:59
bubbasaureshaidora, An example would be two things installed  sudo apt-get install xchat vlc17:59
l0rdn1xvj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1755/what-dlna-server-to-choose17:59
webb1wdbubbasaures: ok i will look it.18:00
haidorais it necessary to update my ubuntu 13.10 to latest version???????????????18:01
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Do you have what ever is there backed up, prepared for any failure?18:01
vj10rdn1x: Thanks, media-tomb looks good to me18:01
RaMcHiP-Mobilehello all18:01
bubbasaureshaidora, Yeah 13.10 is eol.18:01
bubbasaures!eol | haidora look at eol upgrade18:01
ubottuhaidora look at eol upgrade: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:01
RaMcHiP-MobileI am attempting to rotate my CLI 90' because I have a monitor that I turn on its side18:01
RaMcHiP-Mobilehow would I do that?18:01
haidorais there a better program than photoshop??????for editing images??18:03
bubbasauresRaMcHiP-Mobile, My first thought was xrandr try this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95812/how-can-i-rotate-my-display-in-the-most-easy-way18:03
digisus3okfn18:04
bubbasauresjust guessing however18:04
webb1wdbubbasaures: well i dont i wasnt expecting that i would get this error, i have a new hdd, i will try to back things up.Do you have any recommendations for software?clonezilla?18:04
RaMcHiP-Mobilebubbasaures, Thanks will check this out18:04
sacarlsonhaidora: I'm not sure it's better but very similar call gimp,  but also inkscape is cool with features that photoshop doesn't even have18:04
haidorahow to connect to wifi network using wps in ubuntu?18:05
bubbasaureswebb1wd, For an mirror clone I use clonezilla, and in ubuntu rsync to keep home up to date, all on externals. Lots of imaging options however.18:05
sacarlsonhaidora: nework-manager supports it18:05
haidorathanks this is the most useful message since i have installed xchat18:06
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Your issue is a bit hard to understand exactly, you mention a gpt table somewhere, and the exact chain of events is not clear.18:07
webb1wdbubbasaures: yes i know,i came here earlier and i had said things better.18:08
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Not the easiest place to do all that. ;)18:09
haidorahow to run network-manager from terminal???18:10
daftykinshaidora: for what purpose?18:11
bubbasaureshaidora, Is this a wireless issue, do you reach the net plugged in?18:11
webb1wdbubbasaures:  ok18:11
haidoramy wierless is working fine but i want to know how to connect to a wifi using wps pin18:12
bubbasaureswebb1wd, I would include a pastebin of the setup with sudo parted -l in your inquiry, I would like to see it if possible.18:12
webb1wdbubbasaures: ok i will now go boot with live cd,im on another pc.18:13
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bynariewud up18:14
bubbasaureswebb1wd, Can you be on the channel from that live, that in general is best.18:14
bubbasauresor at least have access quickly18:15
ki7mthello all, I'm at remote locate trying to fix a dualboot laptop Debian 7 / Ubuntu 14.04 Debian boots ok, but the Ubuntu image keeps dumping into a low graphics error screen. Whenever I try to update grub ( I suspect the UUID is hosed up in fstab), fsck just hangs up. Theres also an error on the boot splash stating the UUID is not mounted yet. Any Ideas how to resolve this?18:15
haidorahelp how to launch network-manager from terminal?18:16
bubbasaureski7mt, Updating grub wont change the graphics.18:16
webb1wdbubbasaures: i will have quick access the other pc is slow with mozilla cause it live cd.18:17
ki7mtbubbasaures, Yes, I know, but I can't get into a r/w partition as the fsck keeps hangin up, so I thought updateing grub may fix that, but wasn't sure.18:17
daftykinski7mt: are you fsck'ing from a live session?18:17
daftykinski7mt: have you checked the disk is ok from its' SMART info?18:18
ki7mtdaftykins, No, I dont have access to a CD here.18:18
daftykinski7mt: ok i would not try and fsck via this means. you need bootable media18:18
daftykinsor do it from debian18:18
ki7mtdaftykins, ok, well I can boot int the Debian side just fine if that helps.18:19
daftykinski7mt: ok, it'd be nice to confirm the disk is healthy before proceeding with the fsck.18:19
Filthyif you are going to fsck with debian wear a jiffy18:20
ki7mtdaftykins, Ok, how to proceed ? /dev/sda1 is Debian, sev/sda3 is ubuntu  and /dev/sda5 is swap18:20
daftykinsthat's not helpful, Filthy.18:20
ki7mt.. /dev/sda3 ..18:20
webb1ndbubbasaures: hi18:20
daftykinski7mt: get smartmontools installed under debian and run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" to check the SMART output is fine18:20
givelloHey there, I was around the previous two day for a freeze at boot. I have new information and could use some advice18:20
webb1ndbubbasaures: im talking from the ubuntu machine.18:20
givelloI finally found a way to get the system to output the errors encountered during boot18:21
AlexPortableWhy isn't screencloud in the repos anymore?18:21
givelloWhich necessitated a removal of $vthandoff and adding text --verbose nomodeset nosplash in the boot line18:21
givelloAnd the result is that it stops right after printing loading initial ramdisk18:22
ki7mtdaftykins, Ok, installing18:22
givelloAny advice?18:22
sananпривет18:22
webb1ndbubbasaures: here is my parted -l paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8749968/18:22
RaMcHiP-Mobilebubbasaures, Thanks that worked18:24
RaMcHiP-Mobilethat threw my touch 90' off now ;)18:24
ki7mtdaftykins, Only thing of interest, it spit back power on lifetime message.18:24
bubbasauresRaMcHiP-Mobile, Cool, no problem.18:25
daftykinski7mt: i'm afraid i can't follow that sentence at all. if you could pastebin the smartctl output that would be helpful18:25
bubbasaureswebb1nd, So I see one HD, 1 TB, any others?18:26
ki7mtdaftykins, Sri, the only Error Message presented was Error 81, at disk power-on lifetime: 31136 hours (1297 days + 18 houts )18:26
ki7mtdaftykins, the rest looked ok18:26
bubbasauresRaMcHiP-Mobile, Ah, not sure on the touch part, heh.18:26
webb1ndbubbasaures: that is sdb,sda it says "Error: Invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/sda "18:26
webb1ndbubbasaures: and i also have a new one unplugged now.18:27
daftykinski7mt: can you not pastebin it anyway? not sure if debian has the package 'pastebinit'18:27
ki7mtdaftykins, I'll check18:27
bubbasaureswebb1nd, I would see what sda looks like in gparted on the live.18:27
bubbasauresthe sda HD18:28
webb1ndbubbasaures: so to burn gparted on cd and then boot from it?18:28
haidoracan u name me the best kali group?????18:28
linus_how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work18:28
bubbasaureswebb1nd, gparted is on the live.18:28
ki7mtdaftykins, Im going to long into IRC from the Debian box, make this easier. It has pastebinit.18:29
webb1ndbubbasaures:i understand now okay.18:29
bubbasaureswebb1nd, I just wonder if that HD shows anything, what was on there exactly?18:29
HaaPut"Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing18:29
ki7mtdaftykins, http://paste.debian.net/129467/18:30
webb1ndbubbasaures: there was /home and /18:30
webb1ndbubbasaures: also swap18:30
linus_webb1nd: can you help me sir18:30
bubbasaureswebb1nd, Any windows, ntfs...etc?18:30
bubbasaureslinus_, Wait for help, don't ask randomly.18:31
daftykinski7mt: that disk is toast, see lines 61 and 7218:31
daftykinski7mt: copy the data off onto another drive from all OSs and replace it18:31
webb1ndwebb1nd: no,i was using it right before i installed the new hdd.I booted it up yesterday.18:31
RaMcHiP-MobileYa, I have to do some research now.  This will be my first touch screen project and I need to do it 90' rotated ;)18:31
lvlephWhen trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?18:31
linus_bubbasaures: how do I get in line?18:31
webb1ndwebb1nd: and sure it didnt have any ntfs partitions18:31
bubbasaureslinus_, No line, it is just you state your issue, and any one who wants to and knows the answers talks with you is all.18:32
ki7mtdaftykins, Is this due to age or something or just a general failure ?18:32
daftykinski7mt: could be both, bad sectors can be due to a laptop that's dropped, general failure of heads coming in contact with platters, many things really18:33
linus_how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work18:33
linus_how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work18:33
linus_how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work18:33
HaaPut"Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing18:33
ki7mtdaftykins, Ok, I guess the the section that the Debian is on must be ok, as that's what Im on now.18:33
bubbasaureswebb1nd, sda was a gpt setup as well? This a former windows uefi bios?18:33
HaaPutanybody got any ideas what may be the reason18:34
ansiviruslinus_, what version of Ubuntu. (and no need to flood the question multiple times)18:34
squintylinus_:  read!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:34
linus_Ubuntu 12.04 :ansivirus18:34
daftykinski7mt: it may be, but this issue may very well get worse, so you need to consider this disk dead and backup immediately18:34
ki7mtdaftykins, Yup understand. The only thing of value on the Ubuntu partition is the GPG keys.18:35
ansiviruslinus_, what are you trying to set it to?18:35
linus_ansivirus: I have this in /etc/default/locale : LANG=en_US.utf818:36
webb1ndbubbasaures: I had moved it from a windows pc to this pc.:S the sda.Also it is gpt system.18:36
ki7mtdaftykins, I've already backed up most of user directory. Just wondering if I can get keys off it before scrapping it.18:36
haidorahow to make a linux app??18:37
daftykinski7mt: yeah, just mount the volumes read-only and perform small tasks one at a time - so you don't lose too much if it freezes up18:37
webb1ndbubbasaures: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750150/18:37
ansiviruslinus_, in /etc/default/local put LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE="en_US:en"   then in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local put en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8  then issue command locale-gen and init 6 to reboot18:37
OerHekshaidora, make a program, compile it18:38
haidorai want to know how to make a program?18:39
OerHekshaidora, choose the programming language first, then do it18:39
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bubbasaureswebb1nd, I would take your setup to someone who knows this stuff. It is not beyond help here, or on forums but needs a clear outline. I don't see that happening here is all.18:40
haidoradid you try to make one?18:40
webb1ndbubbasaures: ok bubbasaures im glad for helping me out.Do you suggest posting on forums?18:42
squintyhaidora: google for articles similar to the following  http://www.opensourceforu.com/2010/05/write-your-next-program-on-linux/18:42
bubbasaureswebb1nd, Do you have any friends who know this area well?18:43
webb1ndbubbasaures: no i dont.18:43
Marasgeongreetings everyone18:44
linus_ansivirus: when I run "locale" I get "LANG=", so it doesn't work18:44
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HaaPutanyone any clue why my tracker-extract keeps crashing18:45
MarasgeonI have an internal card reader on my laptop, it can read SD cards but not SDHC, can I make it work somehow?18:45
bubbasaureswebb1nd, Ah, I can't help is all, here might be best than, live help that can get the needed info from you.18:45
bubbasauresHaaPut, Have you looked at the man18:46
bubbasaureshttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/tracker-extract.1.html18:47
OerHeksMarasgeon, see the specs of your vendor, max capacity readable etc etc18:47
linus_ansivirus: I did everything you said it didn't work help me out please18:48
Gl-l0SThi18:48
HaaPutyeah but what does man page have to do with it crashing repeatedly bubbasaures18:49
OerHekslinus_, systemsettings > languagesupport > regional settings18:50
linus_OerHeks: I run server version, on command line18:50
webb1ndbubbasaures:I cant understand you mate.18:50
Soul-Singnou en?18:50
OerHekslinus_, did you logout/login to let the changes take effect?18:51
bubbasauresHaaPut, I just noticed a time on it's running, not familiar with it so wondering.18:51
linus_OerHeks: yes I did everything perfectly18:51
kasunbghi, i recently upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04.. The upgrade reported a failure halfway through, and then asked me to continue `dpkg --configure -a`.  I have not restarted the machine yet.. Can I have some help locating the error log, so you I can show it to you please?18:51
MarasgeonOarHeks: What you mean vendor?18:51
MarasgeonOerHeks: What you mean vendor?18:52
OerHeksMarasgeon, the maker of your machine18:52
MarasgeonOerHeks: so there is no command or program that can made my reader recognize the SDHC cards?18:52
bubbasaureswebb1nd, Just keep trying here, someone eventually will get more help for you.18:53
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OerHeksMarasgeon, it is a harware limit, not software, or does that cardreader work well with SDHC cards in windows ?18:53
ScorpppBonsoir18:53
webb1ndbubbasaures: ok18:53
MarasgeonOerHeks, yes it does18:54
kasunbgthe upgraded was from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04. First step happened flawlessly.. but the 2nd reported failures..18:54
belgianguyhello, sometimes my browser (Chrome) is able to defeat the login screen after the screen dims18:54
belgianguyI'm on 14.1018:54
belgianguybut it's done it before18:54
belgianguyI wonder how that is possible18:55
OerHeksMarasgeon, does ubuntu read sd cards well?18:55
Marasgeonyes18:55
linus_how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu 12.04 server version, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work18:55
OerHeksMarasgeon, then i have no clue18:55
belgianguyIt usually happens when playing full screen flash video18:55
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale18:55
bubbasaureskasunbg, After running 'dpkg --configure -a' what happened?18:56
linus_OerHeks: I followed those instructions but this happened https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni18:56
HaaPutbubbasaures it takes input from stdin so I guess it will wait for 30 seconds for input before quitting18:56
kasunbgbubbasaures, that went fine.. at the end it warned the upgrade didn't happen properly, so the system might be unstable.18:57
kasunbgbubbasaures, i'm yet to restart the machine.. Everything else seem to work fine. Suspend, and waking up also works fine18:58
bubbasaureskasunbg, Ah, were or are you backed up off the drive, or somewhere?18:58
kasunbgbubbasaures, nope.. but i have a separate root partition..18:59
bubbasaureskasunbg, I would use a the sudo apt-get -f install command if needed at any failure point to see if any installs need finishing.18:59
lvlephWhen trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?19:00
OerHekslinus_, if i follow the good manual, sudo locale-gen && sudo locale-gen en_US.utf8 #and reboot19:00
bubbasaureskasunbg, Kinda a foolish upgrade really, okay if your backed up, with a separate home you could have just installed 14.0419:01
linus_OerHeks: I already did that, it doesn't work, it says up-to-date anyway19:01
kasunbgbubbasaures, hmm.. yea.. but i wanted to keep the configuration files of apache2 etc.19:02
linus_OerHeks: how do I see if it works I run locale and see LANG=en_US right, but I see LANG= ...19:02
OerHekslinus_, just type 'locale'19:03
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kasunbgbubbasaures, would apt-get -f install have any bad side-effects.. i once removed ubuntu-desktop while trying to remove some qt libs <<banging-the-head>>.. so, wanted to know there won't be mishaps like that19:03
linus_OerHeks: it outputs LANG= . So i guess it doesn't work right19:03
bubbasaureskasunbg, -f install is just to finish stopped package installs. Did you use eol upgrade here?19:04
kasunbgbubbasaures, i had a fresh 13.04. Last month i upgraded the EOLed 13.04 to 13.10. Then, upgraded to 14.04 y'day19:06
bubbasaures!eol | kasunbg Did you follow the eol upgrade sources.list change from eolupgrade here19:07
ubottukasunbg Did you follow the eol upgrade sources.list change from eolupgrade here: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:07
bourne_exit19:07
kasunbg bubbasaures, yes.. that i had in my sources.list for 13.04. But not for 13.10 since the saucy repo is not moved to old-releases yet.19:09
kasunbgbubbasaures, i just ran the said command. it didn't do anything.19:10
kasunbgbubbasaures, I reported that I have dozens of packages automatically installed that are no longer required19:10
kasunbg*it19:10
AlexPortableHow can I disable someone shutting down my system?19:11
bekksAlexPortable: Who is that "someone"?19:11
AlexPortableI don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked19:12
AlexPortablebekks: someone near my pc19:12
bubbasaureskasunbg, That response "packages automatically installed that are no longer required" is part of an upgrade at the end.19:12
SeveasAlexPortable: physical access means you're screwed anyway. They can just unplug it.19:12
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bekksAlexPortable: Tell him/her not to do it.19:12
AlexPortablebekks: "I didn't do anything"19:12
AlexPortableSeveas: what do you mean unplug?19:13
AlexPortableah unplug from power19:13
AlexPortablewell I won't leave my laptop unattended for 5 hours19:13
AlexPortableso that's not a problem19:13
zymmEllo Ubuntu. Anyone got any time to help me with wineasio?19:13
Seveasthey can take the battery out, or press the power button19:13
nuke1989anyone familiar with cssh ? Or generally with operating many VMs with different passwords?19:14
bekksnuke1989: Whats the problem with that?19:14
Seveasnuke1989: try salt instead of ssh19:14
kasunbgbubbasaures, ok.. i probably don't have to do `apt-get autoremove`.. since it asks to remove some packages i love dearly.19:15
nuke1989well i am controlling around 18 VMs and i loging 3 times each day typing the exact commands. Problem is every VM has different password. And it takes time....19:15
nuke1989i will check salt19:16
bekksnopf: Use key based auth then.19:16
pdcmoreirahello19:16
AlexPortableSeveas: battery can't be taken out. power button does nothing19:16
nuke1989bekks, i cant....Big story...19:16
bekksnuke1989: So you have to type in the passwords.19:17
nuke1989i wonder if cssh or something similar can take passwords from a file19:17
bubbasaureskasunbg, Sometimes they are removed, if 3rd party...etc,  problem here is that really you have not provided enough detail to really help. Had you come on here before, mots would say fresh install.19:17
OerHekszymm, for wine issues you better join #winehq19:17
nuke1989bekks, yes19:17
bubbasauresmost*19:17
bekksnuke1989: Taking the password from a files is "key based auth".19:17
kasunbgbubbasaures, yea.. i don't which error log i shud point u to.. the /var/log/dpkg.log doesn't seems to be useful :(19:18
nuke1989bekks, doesnt key based auth need changes on the VMs ?19:18
nopfbekks: yes, that's best in most cases :)19:18
bekksnuke1989: you need to tell each VM to accept your specific key, yes.19:18
bubbasaureskasunbg, I can't really sieve out the truth here on your issues, ;) maybe others can.19:19
kasunbgbubbasaures, i will probably try a restart tomorrow, and do a fresh install if it giving me trouble at the cost all my configurations19:19
nuke1989bekks, problem is that the VMs reset every day...19:19
kasunbgbubbasaures, sure thing.. thanks anyway..19:19
bekksnuke1989: So change the template where those vms are recreated from.19:19
pacho__hi everybody19:20
daftykinsgreetings!19:20
nuke1989bekks, thats interesting. I will try and see if i have permission to do  that. In any case you dont think there is an automatic way for any client to take the passwords?19:20
AlexPortableHow can I disable someone shutting down my system? I don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked19:20
pacho__There are some women for questioning regarding their experiences in FLOSS19:22
lvlephWhen trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?19:22
zzecoolAnyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action19:26
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herokuubuntu 12.04 server support sucks: how do I set locale, /etc/default/locale doesn't work!!!19:27
zzecoolSame problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"19:28
nopfnuke1989: i have a script that loop-mounts the vm image/filesys and checks if my public key already is in .ssh/authorized_keys ... if not, it appends it to that file19:28
pbxheroku, say more about what you did , what you expected, what happened instead.   share a shell transcript if practical19:28
bekksheroku: No need for that language. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale19:29
linus_pbx: see what I did here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni, bekks: I tried that!19:30
nuke1989nopf, i see. Well i will try something like that or i will try to make a script with plain old ssh command...19:30
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bekkslinus_: Better use that link from the official documentation.19:30
linus_bekks: I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" as described in the official documentation, but it doesn't work, that's what I am asking here19:31
nopfnuke1989: btw what is the image format? if it's 2cow (from qemu) maybe i could paste you the few lines19:32
bekkslinus_: You have to update the locales after setting that.19:32
zzecoolAnyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action Same problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"19:32
linus_bekks: I ran locale-gen , and it's already up-to-date, I tried that19:33
ohadHi, If I want to apt-miror both amd64 and i386 repos, I need to write in the configuration just deb? or deb+deb-amd64+deb-i386?19:33
AlexPortableWhat is better, install Nvidia 740M drivers, or keep it this way?19:34
bekkslinus_: Did you run: sudo update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8"19:34
AlexPortableI have nvidia 740m and hd40019:34
AlexPortablehd4000*19:34
nabblethi, someone botched an ubuntu install - where's that website that tells you how to recover (your windows and ubuntu)? I can't find it ... my google-foo is weak I guess :P19:34
nabbletwindows was installed first, after that ubunt. then the person toyed with the partitions in windows.19:35
linus_bekks: yes I have, and I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in my /etc/default/locale, I have done everything perfectly as described in official documentation and I reboot with sudo init 6 still It doesn't work19:35
bekksnabblet: "botched an install" - what exactly happens when doing what?19:35
marcus_list!19:35
jptnedAnyone active here?19:36
marcus_list/19:36
bekkslinus_: Can you pastebin /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment pleasE?19:36
nabbletbekks: when he tries to boot he get's grub's recovery mode. I think he messed up the partition table with windows so now grub can't find the bootloaders19:36
bubbasauresmarcus_, No lists here19:36
bekksnabblet: So its time to restore your backups.19:36
marcus_ok19:36
nabbletbekks: the "secondary" ones that actually boot-strap the OS's19:36
jptnedAnyone with knowledge about Postfix? I'm trying to build a mail server, but it won't work. :(19:36
nabbletbekks: did that. So a grub install will rediscover the partitions (and the boot loaders on it), right?19:36
bekksnabblet: Yeah.19:37
nabbletbekks: cheers :)19:37
K4kI get an error "found usr.sbin.sssd in /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain, forcing complain mode" at boot. I've configured sssd on this system with the same puppet profile as all the other systems on my network but none of them complain to my knowledge. Sssd fails to function as expected on this machine, thinking that this might be the reason. Any suggestions?19:38
herokubekks: here's my pastebin for /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment http://pastebin.com/hhE9fxpX19:39
lvlephWhen trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?19:40
K4khm, I take that back. Reading the docs on complain mode makes it sound like "permissive mode" on SELinux, that's probably not causing the issue, then.19:41
OerHeksheroku, drop the "19:41
gorillazAnybody help how to install graphics driver for RV770 (Radeon HD 4870)19:43
linus_OerHeks: I dropped quotes now it looks like this , I run locale-gen, and sudo init 6, still it didn't work .. http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k19:44
agliodbsso, Levono Carbon vs. Asus Zenbook.  Opinions?19:45
OerHeksupdate-locale19:48
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deckard__hello. what does a base update usually include ?19:48
linus_OerHeks: I did update-locale it has no effect19:49
Sander^lapEvery time my hosts router restarts.. I loose network access at my guests.19:50
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Sander^lapDo anyone know how I some how restarts virtualbox.. so the network is reset?19:51
BluesKajgorillaz, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon in the terminal19:51
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gorillazBluesKaj open source driver?19:52
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ecolanirkoukkousubunty <201419:56
ansiviruslinus_, are you connecting via SSH to this box that you're seeing LANG=19:56
linus_ansivirus: yes ssh19:57
linus_I also use screen19:57
ansivirusin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config make sure you have UsePAM yes19:57
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BluesKajgorillaz, yes , from the repos19:58
gorillazseems installed 0 changes19:58
ansiviruslinus_, also in ~/.pam_environment make sure you have LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US20:00
BluesKajgorillaz, then you already gave it installed20:01
BluesKajhave20:01
Mightcould3an application wants access to the keyring 'Default', but its locked. it wants a password but my password doesnt work?20:02
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Gl-l0STn the network list , i got an email in junk... verify your user name..20:03
Gl-l0STsorry20:03
gorillazBluesKaj huh well then its pretty bad, cuz my temps are 90 C right now20:03
gorillazon iddle20:03
gorillazIn Windows its 4520:03
Mightcould390c omg shut it off20:04
BluesKajgorillaz, whoa! definitely something not right there20:04
Mightcould3you can fry an egg on that20:04
gorillazI can hear it pretty bad but i hope its hardware indicator sensors false info lol20:05
gorillaz>DF20:05
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noobieneedshelphi20:05
noobieneedshelpI need some help with my Ubuntu live usb20:05
BluesKajgorillaz, desktop or :20:06
BluesKaj?20:06
gorillazdesktop20:06
noobieneedshelpbasically, I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed on a USB (it has to be 8.10 because of some old drivers)20:06
noobieneedshelpI installed it onto my hard drive20:06
noobieneedshelpI set 1GB of persistent storage when I made the usb20:06
BluesKajgorillaz, do you have mesa-utils installed20:06
linus_ansivirus: see my updated pastebin, I followed your instructions, http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k, now LANGUAGE is set, but LANG is still empty, is that allright?20:07
noobieneedshelpis there a way to move everything saved on my usb's filesystem to my hard drive?20:07
noobieneedshelpdrivers etc20:07
gorillazBluesKaj mesa-utils: command not found20:07
noobieneedshelpbecause the .deb I downloaded yesterday is no longer available20:07
nabbletbekks: everything worked out nicely :) Thanks20:07
noobieneedshelpIs there a way to move drivers from my Live USB to my installed Ubuntu system?20:08
noobieneedshelpDrivers that I have installed on my live USB20:08
BluesKajgorillaz, sudo apt- get install mesa-utils20:08
gorillazBluesKaj installed20:09
gorillazreboot?20:09
bekksgorillaz: No.20:09
noobieneedshelpCan someone help me with my issue?20:10
bekksnoobieneedshelp: 8.10 is end of live for a long time now. Just move your personal data and reinstall a new 14.0420:10
noobieneedshelpBekks20:10
noobieneedshelpI need to use 8.1020:10
noobieneedshelpI don't want anything else20:10
bekksnoobieneedshelp: It is unsupported.20:11
noobieneedshelpI just want to move the drivers from my live usb to my system20:11
noobieneedshelphow can I do that?20:11
noobieneedshelpwhich folders?20:11
SheepolutionHey there. I screwed up my Ubuntu quite a lot and stuff isn't working that I want to work. And reinstalling is probably the easiest and fastest way to fix all this.20:11
DJonesnoobieneedshelp: That won;t happen, 8.01 isn't supported for about 2-3 years20:12
SheepolutionNow the reinstallation page says: it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu without losing the content of the /home folder20:12
noobieneedshelpffs20:12
bekksSheepolution: Only if /home is on a separate filesystem.20:12
noobieneedshelpIf I wanted to move drivers from my live usb to my system in 14.0420:12
noobieneedshelphow would I do that?20:12
noobieneedshelpwould I move a folder?20:12
noobieneedshelpis there an application for it?20:12
bekksnoobieneedshelp: You dont have 14.04. And you cant "move drivers" that way.20:12
bekksnoobieneedshelp: You have to install a supported release.20:13
noobieneedshelpwhy?20:13
Sheepolutionbekks: Oh? The page doesn't say that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation20:13
bekksnoobieneedshelp: Because 8.10 is unsupported.20:13
noobieneedshelpI have to use 8.10 because the drivers have not been updated for a supported release20:13
noobieneedshelpthere is no other option20:13
OerHeksdrivers for what?20:13
noobieneedshelpmy 56k modem20:13
noobieneedshelpthe last supported kernel was 2.6.27-720:14
SheepolutionBut it's a bit vague for me what files I keep and not.20:14
DJonesnoobieneedshelp: You'll nedd to contact your modem supplier20:14
noobieneedshelpdoesn't exist anymore20:14
SheepolutionAnd I'm afraid that I will keep files that might be the ones causing the problems.20:14
noobieneedshelpthey merged with another company20:14
noobieneedshelpand no longer offer support20:14
noobieneedshelpthe driver works on my live usb20:14
noobieneedshelpI just want to move it20:14
bekksnoobieneedshelp: Thats too bad, but it doesnt make your 8.10 being supported.20:14
cubby_does ubuntu server have a mail server built in, or do I need to install that?20:15
cubby_I'm a noob.20:15
bekkscubby_: you need to install it.20:15
noobieneedshelpbekks: seriously. this isn't about the version, it's about moving my drivers20:15
cubby_Thanks, bekks20:15
noobieneedshelpbekks: is there no way to move my drivers?20:15
bekksnoobieneedshelp: Seriously, 8.10 is out of support.20:15
bekksnoobieneedshelp: No, there is no way to just "move" drivers.20:15
noobieneedshelpbekks: that's all you had to tell me. ty.20:16
bekksnoobieneedshelp: I did, two times already.20:16
OerHekswhat modem exactly?20:16
gorillazBluesKaj no other workaounds?20:17
alo21hi all20:18
alo21I can't start transmission due to a bug when I added a specific .torrent file20:19
alo21how can start a new session of transmission?20:19
alo21or delete al .torrent files that are downloading in transmission?20:20
K4kOK! I give up, why can't I restart the networking service? I've added a static IP definition in /etc/network/interfaces but it won't let me restart the network daemon and the old static IP is still set on reboot20:21
K4kthe static IP that it keeps setting was set during install20:22
K4kif that helps20:22
gorillazK4k have you tried from the wingpanel?20:22
netlarWhich Wacom tablets are fully compatible with Ubuntu?20:22
K4kgorillaz: what's the wingpanel?20:22
gorillazi mean from the dropmenu Enable Networking20:22
gorillaztaskbar20:22
K4kThis is a headless server, no gui20:22
OerHeksalo21, remove /home/<user>/.config/transmission/settings.json and restart transmission?20:23
gorillazi m out20:23
noobieneedshelpOerHeks: it's an Agere 11c1104020:23
gorillazlol20:23
K4k;)20:23
noobieneedshelpI found a driver for my kernel but the download is not working20:23
* K4k pops his head in to #ubuntu-server20:23
noobieneedshelpany ideas where I might be able to find a mirror for a download?20:23
alo21OerHeks: I still have torrent in downloading20:24
br1ckdanyone know why apt is downloading at 5-75 KB/s when I can download an ISO from the same mirror at 1.5+ MB/s? Using HTTP for apt and the iso...20:24
daftykinsbr1ckd: just try running the auto select mirror or pick another one manually20:25
OerHeksalo21, remove them from  config/transmission/torrents/  and /resume/  ?20:26
noobieneedshelphey guys - would a 56k dial up connection using my pc as a server be stable in a Live USB?20:27
noobieneedshelpWould the connection be stable and fast enough?20:27
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erkulesahoi I read ubuntu 14.10 claims to do be able to do something like coreos. As a fact I didn't find out by what means? Is there docker integration for juju? Is there something else?20:28
Mightcould3noobieneedshelp, 56k dial up? im not sure if that still exist. if it does... dude seriously?20:29
noobieneedshelpit's not for internet browsing20:29
noobieneedshelpit's for my dreamcast lol20:29
Parameziushello,  i'd like to try ubuntu touch with the ubuntu emulator20:29
noobieneedshelpso it can play games online using my pc as a server20:29
Mightcould3my phone gets 20mbps. i didnt know a company would still offer 56k. what would you do on it?20:30
Parameziusdo you recomend me the ubuntu emulator included in the repositories of 14.04 or the phablet ppa?20:30
noobieneedshelphttp://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/#step320:30
noobieneedshelpthis explains it20:30
Parameziusarm or i386 image?20:30
noobieneedshelpbasically, instead of a dial-up ISP you use a computer as a router of sorts to play online20:31
Mightcould3yeah pretty sure 56k wont do any games. when i used to run a multiplayer KSP server most clients avr'd at 100 kbps.20:31
noobieneedshelpmightcould3: this isn't for po games20:31
noobieneedshelpread the link20:31
noobieneedshelpit's designed for 56k20:31
noobieneedshelppc*20:31
SheepolutionI probably know the answer, but just to be sure: If I installed Ubuntu on Drive A and have files on Drive B, and I reinstall Ubuntu completely, Drive B will be unharmed right?20:31
SheepolutionI'm paranoid20:32
noobieneedshelpyes SHeep20:32
noobieneedshelpDrive B will be fine20:32
Mightcould3well isnt that cute. good luck with it. dreamcast was one of my fav consoles :D20:32
noobieneedshelpyeah it's great20:32
noobieneedshelpIs there a way to 'merge' my Live USB filesystem with a hard disk-installed Ubuntu's filesystem?20:34
popeyParamezius: the ppa, definitely20:34
noobieneedshelpLike, move the all the files on my live usb filesystem to the hdd one?20:34
Parameziuspopey, do you mean the phablet ppa?20:35
popeythe ubuntu sdk ppa, yes20:35
popeyfor all of the sdk, what release you on?20:35
jose__hello20:38
benzhninjasomeone change their name to skylake20:41
the_drow_Is it worthwhile to install Mir on my laptop (ubuntu 14.10)?20:42
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benzhninjaif you change your name to skylake20:42
the_drow_How much things will break? Can I switch back to xorg?20:42
Parameziuspopey, i'm on 14.0420:43
the_drow_benzhninja: and that's the dev of Mir?20:43
benzhninjaplease20:43
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alo21OerHeks: it works thanks :)20:43
OerHeksalo21, have fun20:44
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RaMcHiP-MobileAnyone here good with touch screens?  I installed ubuntu 14.04 and use xrandr to rotate the screen -90'.  Now when I do xinput_calibrator it pops the calibration screen up but it only shows the right hand side of the sccreen20:44
RaMcHiP-Mobileis there any way to get my touch to rotate as well?20:45
popeyParamezius: so yes, definitely use the ppa20:45
alo21How can I enable my trash in Ubuntu?20:45
hayer_What user runs the "nfs auto mount"-thingy?20:47
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brainwashthe_drow_: do you plan to test unity8?20:49
Parameziuspopey, thanks a lot. One more thing. do you recomend me the arm or the i386 image?20:49
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popeyParamezius: the i386 one is way faster20:50
Parameziusthanks a lot popey  :)20:51
brainwashthe_drow_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/mir-devel/2014-October/000908.html20:51
Squidwardhow do i use ntfs as root fs20:52
brainwashyou don't20:52
Squidwardwhy not20:52
popeyParamezius: no problem, #ubuntu-app-devel is where other like minded devs hang out20:52
the_drow_brainwash: hahahaha20:52
hayer_how can I add a user to a group? "sudo adduser username groupname"?20:53
popeySquidward: ntfs doesn't support some of the things we need (like symlinks)20:53
Squidwardoh20:53
solarshi, does anyone know how to get more than 30hz with 2560x1440 over HDMI with an intel graphics hd 4400?20:54
popeysolars: dont you need dual dvi for that?20:54
solarspopey, well I got 30hz working20:54
solarspopey, but I have no clue and it's a laptop with only hdmi20:54
popeysolars: pretty sure it needs dual dvi to get higher bandwidth.. i may be wrong20:55
popeysolars: from googling it looks like that video card doesn't support it20:55
popeysolars: e.g. https://communities.intel.com/thread/3036020:55
solarspopey, I found this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/2560x1440-or-2560x1600-via-HDMI.92840.0.html20:56
popey"Intel graphics does not support dual-link, therefore 1920x1200 is the maximum for DVI and HDMI, 2560x1440 is only possible with a displayport port"20:56
solarswell I currently run 2560x1440@30hz20:56
popeyright, which is as high as you can get20:56
Xaphod2hi. i just updated 14.04 -> 14.10, and my kernel version is 3.14.x. How can I get to 3.16.x? I need the HW support. thx20:57
solarspopey, there is also the option with 50 as written in the link I posted20:57
solarsbut I'm not sure if that's only for the hd 400020:57
popeyXaphod2: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic20:57
Xaphod2thanks will try that20:57
popeynp20:57
popeyXaphod2: the upgrade _should_ have updated to that20:58
popeyXaphod2: you may want to also run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" to see if there's anything else missing (assumiung you use unity based ubuntu and not kubuntu/xubuntu etc)20:58
Xaphod2I think i might have uninstalled the generic, in favor for a specific 3.14.x, because there was some 3.14.x update that didn’t work for me20:58
popeyXaphod2: note that hat ^20:58
popeythat might have done it, yes20:59
Xaphod2thanks ok will check that. What does the carat mean?20:59
popeyre-install the task, which will pull in any missing bits that should be there20:59
hayer_"mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd." -- what do? I don't want local locks(bad when multiple users from different machines using the same storage?). "sudo service statd" -> running. Help?!20:59
solarspopey, did you see the statement about 50hz?20:59
popeysolars: i did. dunno what to say.21:00
popeysolars: pretty sure you've hit the max HDMI can do21:00
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solars:/21:00
solarswell for working 30hz is okay21:00
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solarsI use the laptop only for work21:01
Faultierhey guys, i'm new to ubuntu and i would like to know if there is a channel for specific questions if there are any problems21:02
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daftykinsFaultier: this is the support channel21:03
Faultierokay thanks21:03
brainwash!ask21:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:04
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popeyFaultier: yeah, you found it, welcome! :D21:05
Logicwrathim confushed about hostnames, should i use ubuntu or ubuntu.domain.net when i am asked during installation, i plan on having it resolve from an A record21:05
popeyyou can use either and modify it later21:05
popeyits not crucial to set the hostname in stone during install21:05
Faultieri'm just wondering why ubuntu hasn´t xchat pre-installed like Mint21:06
popeyFaultier: most users dont use irc21:06
bekksLogicwrath: the hostname is "yourhostname" and the full qualified domain name is "yourhostname.domain.tld"21:06
popey(strange though that seems)21:06
Logicwrathto be clear, during installation it is requesting hostname and not fqdn21:06
Logicwrathso i should skip the fqdn during install?21:07
popeyLogicwrath: i generally just put hostname, and modify after.21:07
popeyLogicwrath: you can, yes.21:07
bekksLogicwrath: Actually it is just requesting a hostname.21:07
popeyit will work fine, you can modify it after21:07
compdocis it better to define a fqdn during install?21:07
popeyit doesnt matter21:07
bekkscompdoc: It doesnt matter :)21:07
FaultierPopey What do you mean most users dont use irc in ubuntu, what do they use instead?21:07
popeytakes 2 mins to change later21:07
popeyFaultier: most Ubuntu users don't use IRC at all21:07
Faultierso how do they get help if they need it?21:08
Filthyhow do they wind up here??21:08
bekksFilthy: Using forumns, e.g.21:08
kjelle.o/21:08
popeyFaultier: depends, people may have technical friends, or family21:08
Faultieri dont rly like forums and familiar things21:08
popeyor they might use forums, askubuntu or mailing lists21:08
popeywe have a _lot_ of support options, irc is just one21:09
bekksFaultier: you dont have to, but others do.21:09
Faultieri know ^21:09
kjelleIm trying to use libpam-ldap libnss-ldap but for some reason the AD account must also exist locally for SSH to work.. Anyone have any idea why that is? pretty basic and plain config.21:09
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popeythere's 1800 people here, which represents 0.003% or so of the ubuntu userbase ☻21:09
CoC_towliehas anyone got Xchat to work with tor inside a VM?21:09
bekksCoC_towlie: People did, yes.21:09
Faultiersee, in my enviremont i am the only one using linux and i'm thinking about to replace my win 7 with ubuntu21:10
CoC_towliei followed this guide verbatim but xchat can not connect21:10
CoC_towlielilith-lela.bogspot.com/2012/01/xchat-with-tor-for-freenode-on.html21:11
bekksNice try. Spam link. Ignore set.21:12
SchrodingersScatI also only get spam in that link.21:13
SchrodingersScathopefully links2 doesn't help out much21:14
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larsmwSchrodingers Cat,  Are you there??21:15
RaMcHiP-MobileOK, fixed the xinput_calibration problem, had to disable a 2nd screen.  Now when I do the calibration is seems to accept it but doesnt stick.21:17
dialupnewbHi21:17
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: run it from a terminal21:18
RaMcHiP-MobileI am21:18
RaMcHiP-MobileI ran xinput_calibration from terminal21:18
RaMcHiP-Mobileshoudl I do it before the desktop starts?21:18
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: doesn't it tell you exactly what to do to make the calibration permanent?21:18
dialupnewbI have an Ubuntu live usb. If I were to use it as a dialup server on my computer, would the connection be stable/fast enough (for a 56k connection)?21:18
RaMcHiP-MobileLet me double check, not that I could see21:19
dialupnewbI'm talking about a PC-Dreamcast dial-up connection btw21:19
bekksdialupnewb: a 56k connection is not fast enough for almost anything nowadays.21:19
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: it gave me a text. something like take this snippet and put it in usr/shareblabla21:19
dialupnewbbekks: it's the correct speed for the dreamcast modem21:19
dialupnewblook it up21:19
dialupnewbit's a dialup connection21:19
daftykinsdialupnewb: my understanding is all functionality got turned off for the DC anyway.21:20
SchrodingersScatdialupnewb: I'd put a bet on it probably would work, maybe little laggy, but once it's up it should be good?21:20
RaMcHiP-Mobileis there a way to make it show my real time touches??21:20
dialupnewbdaftykins: the servers were turned off. however, it's pretty easy to use a pc as one with linux21:20
RaMcHiP-Mobileso I can where its registering relative to my touches?21:20
dialupnewbSchrodingersScat: I'll try it as soon as I get an RJ11 cable online. Thanks.21:21
daftykinsdialupnewb: a PC as one what?21:21
dialupnewbA dialup server21:21
daftykinsdialupnewb: right but what does getting it online allow you to do?21:21
dialupnewbhttp://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/21:21
dialupnewbPlay games online, download free DLC for Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure, etc21:21
dialupnewbbrowse the internet with a browser21:21
dialupnewbit's mainly for the free DLC and the online multiplayer like Phantasy Star Online V2\21:22
daftykinswell, good luck then21:22
dialupnewbty21:22
jimmy51v_!info libgcrypt21:22
ubottuPackage libgcrypt does not exist in utopic21:22
jimmy51v_!info libgcrypt1121:22
ubottulibgcrypt11 (source: libgcrypt11): LGPL Crypto library - runtime library. In component main, is required. Version 1.5.4-2ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 251 kB, installed size 648 kB21:22
cognitiaclaevesI've broken grub.  How do I get it to boot again?21:22
cognitiaclaeves*grub221:22
dialupnewbSchrodingersScat: would the connection be any different in terms of stability to a hard-disk installed Ubuntu?21:22
dialupnewbbecause I do have Ubuntu on my HDD, it's just that the drivers for my modem are on the USB and I can't figure out how to move them :(21:23
SchrodingersScatdialupnewb: while i had a dreamcast, and played some PSO, I don't know how I could estimate that :/21:23
dialupnewbyou sold the DC?21:23
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Depends on what got broke where, maybe as simple as (re-)installing grub from a liveDVD. Is this a EFI based system ?21:24
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, I don't think it is.  I disabled it from BIOS and it still seems to boot.21:24
Squidwardvote charlie baker ma 201421:24
sregistercognitiaclaeves: I would go Bashing-om21:24
sregisterroute of fixing21:25
Squidwardvote charlie baker ma 201421:25
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, Does it need to be installed from a liveDVD?  I booted into Ubuntu using supergrub 2.21:25
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Let's look, and make sure of what we are working with : sudo parted -l | pastebinit .21:25
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Nopoe, IF you can boot into the install .. just figure out weather it is a EFI partition involved. and try to (re)-install grub, see what happens.21:27
cognitiaclaeveshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8751896/21:27
SemajnadWhere's the best place to save general files in Linux that can be accessed by all users. For example, on Windows you might create C:/NewFolder to share files across all users.21:27
cognitiaclaevesThere's no /boot/efi ... that makes it non-efi, right?21:27
Cr4zy12517805883964160521:28
Cr4zy12CVV: 15021:28
Cr4zy12EXP: 04/16First Name: Torin M21:28
Cr4zy12Last Name: Lee21:28
Cr4zy12DoB: N/A21:28
Cr4zy12email: torin_lee@yahoo.com21:28
Cr4zy12Phone: 7036256107Country:Refunded USA21:28
unopasteCr4zy12 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted21:28
dialupnewbIs there a way to make a .squashfs filesystem a normal directory?21:28
dialupnewbIf possible, I'd like to merge the drivers from my live usb with those on my hdd (same version of Ubuntu)21:29
SemajnadWhat's the best way to remotely connect to a ubuntu-desktop session so it asks for the users login and more then one user can be logged in at once. Stuff like RealVNC and Teamviewer obviously connect directly to the server and are not session based.21:29
del_Semajnad: Do you have more than one user?21:29
quitteSemajnad: /tmp ;). who do you want to be the owner of the shared files?21:29
ikoniadialupnewb: they are already the same21:29
Semajnadquitte: del_: we havae 3 users and want some files shared between them all21:29
Semajnadquitte: But they are not Temp files?21:30
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, do I reinstall grub with grub-install ?21:30
dialupnewbikonia: I installed some drivers on the usb (persistent storage of 1GB)21:30
quitteSemajnad: you can have permissions such that parts of your home are accessible by others21:30
ikoniadialupnewb: which ones ?21:30
dialupnewbikonia: I'd like to access those drivers as I can't download them anymore21:30
del_Semajnad: It really doesn't matter. Just the current user's directory would be fine.  Just create  direcory /home/Semajnad/Share21:30
Semajnadquitte: If we are running game servers, what's the best way to do it. User per game server, or individual users for admins who can all aaccess the game server files?21:30
dialupnewbikonia: here's the driver download, lol:http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/agrsm-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.14_i386.deb21:30
quitteSemajnad I guess you could create a fourth users where everyone can create files in his home directory and then he owns them21:30
Semajnadquitte:  Nice idea :)21:31
dialupnewbikonia: it isn't working for me21:31
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Sorry, but I must run away from this one, as I know nothing about encryption. I do not know how grub works with encrypted partitions.21:31
ikoniadialupnewb: define "not working for you"21:31
dialupnewbikonia: it won't download21:31
del_Semajnad: Have it owned by a group that You're user and the oters also belong to.21:31
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, /boot ( sda5 ) is not encrypted.21:31
quitteSemajnad: well that sounds like the admin is the owner. then it goes in /usr/local/21:31
dialupnewbikonia: network timeout. I think it's down21:31
ikoniadialupnewb: what version of ubuntu are you using21:32
Semajnadquitte: We have 3 admins who manage them. So I don't want any of them owning the files inidividually. So I created a group called server-admin and made the 3 users owners of that group. My plan was to use a shared place to store the files, make the group own the files, then let the individuaal users manage them that waya.21:32
dialupnewbikonia: outdated but that isn't really relevant. 8.1021:32
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Thgink'n .21:32
ikoniait is relevant21:32
dialupnewbikonia: and no I can't nor do I want to upgrade21:32
Semajnadusers of that group sorry*21:32
Bashing-omthink'n*21:32
quitteSemajnad: so make a directory group writable in /home ?21:32
ikoniadialupnewb: ok, then support ends21:32
dialupnewbikonia: ikr21:33
Semajnadquitte: Okay thanks, I'll do that then. Just create /home/server-files21:33
ikoniathis channel only supports in support release, so good luck, find the module in the kernel tree and move it across to your other system21:33
ikoniagood luck21:33
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cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, just tell me how it would work without encryption...21:34
quitteSemajnad: look into the set group id bit21:34
Semajnadquitte: How do I create a directory in /home when a normal aadministrator account does not have access? Should you enable root to do this or is there a preferred way.21:34
quitteSemajnad: http://xkcd.com/149/21:35
ikoniahow is that helpful ?21:36
Semajnadquitte: Oh damn ye21:36
Semajnadquitte: Thanks21:36
Semajnad*And the penny drops*21:36
lultronself validating : http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj21:37
ikonialultron: ?21:37
lultrontopic validated in 372 lines21:37
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, I think I found my answer here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2_from_a_Working_System21:37
ikonialultron: it's nothing to do with this channel, or any of the other channels your posting it in21:38
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Again I am not at all sure, but maybe try: -> sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda <- from the ubuntu install. see if sda5 /boot is picked up.21:38
ikonialultron: please stick to ubuntu discussion in this channel21:38
SheepolutionThe reinstall page says that I must use the same username and password, but that's only when doing a soft reinstall right?21:38
jimmy51v_can't get VPN to connect. http://pastebin.ca/2866453 <-- anything in there stand out as an obvious issue?21:38
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, Yes I got that but the config does not work21:38
lultronikonia it is discussed in the article how best to use ubuntu21:38
lultronso i find you incorrect21:38
SheepolutionWhere I don't reset the homefolder21:38
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, it tells me to make a script that runs at startup21:38
del_Semajnad: groupadd -g 211 wheel && usemod -a -G wheel Semajnad   #And add other users to it in the same way.  And then have the directory owned by the group. mkdir /home/Semajnad/Share && sudo chown Semajnad:wheel /home/Semajnad/Share21:38
lultronyou didn't read it21:38
lultronrtfm and stfu tx21:38
ikonialultron: again - nothing to do with this channel21:38
lultronhttp://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj you decide21:39
Ben64del_: ubuntu doesn't use wheel21:39
Semajnaddel_: I don't get it :/ I was just going to do chown on the /home/shared-files folder to the group?21:39
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, but it does not work in the first place :(.  It appears that is KNOWS what is wrong and that it needs to reverse the axis as well so I am a little confused21:39
del_Ben64: ubuntu uses any group you want it to.21:39
cognitiaclaevesBashing-om, hmm ... hadn't heard of --recheck21:39
Ben64del_: ok well, wheel has no effect21:39
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Semajnaddel_: Oh thaat's just adding Semaajnaad to the group wheel (sorry for the aaaa's btw, my keyboard is screwed atm)21:40
del_Ben64: wheel is just a name21:40
Ben64del_: Semajnad already has a group name, why change it? and why change it to wheel21:40
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: --recheck does just that .. if files are missing will create them.21:41
del_Ben64: It is the name of a group21:41
cognitiaclaevesThanks, Bashing-om .  I'm going to give it a shot now.21:41
SemajnadBen64: del_ I've changed the users daniel, felix and nathan to the group server-admin, then going to make server-admin own /home/shared-files21:41
Ben64Semajnad: yep21:41
SemajnadBen64: Nice.21:41
Semajnaddel_: Thanks21:41
del_Ben64: A user can be member of as many groups as you want.21:42
Ben64del_: you're not understanding21:42
SemajnadLast question, what's the best waay to remote connect to ubuntu-desktop. I tried VNC servers but they don't connect using sessions, they just connect directly. I want it so when I connect it asaks for the users login / password :/21:42
SemajnadI tried XRDP but people said it wont work with ubuntu-desktop21:42
del_Ben64: *You* are not understanding.  groupadd creates a *new* group.  (I just use the name wheel as an example. You can use any group name you want, but wheel will work just fine.)21:43
Ben64del_: but he already has a group! why add another! why wheel! wheel is used in other distros for something very particular!21:43
Nothing_MuchHaving MAJOR problem with 750 Ti crashing Unity/Compiz21:43
Nothing_MuchUbuntu 14.1021:43
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: I have the same problem, I think21:44
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: bay trail tablet per chance?21:44
lvlephWhen trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?21:44
del_Ben64: Do we care that other distro's use the same group name?  Or user name for that matter?  If another PC has a gourp or user name that is the same as the one you are on now, do you care?21:44
Nothing_MuchUbuntu 14.10, having MAJOR problems with 750 Ti crashing Compiz/Unity, errors in the Xorg.0.log show ^@^@^@^@^@21:44
Ben64del_: it could confuse other users, but you're missing the main point, which is that HE ALREADY HAS MADE A GROUP21:44
Nothing_MuchI am using the latest stable 340 drivers, btw21:45
cognitiaclaevesThanks, Bashing-om .  That did the trick!21:45
Bashing-omcognitiaclaeves: Great ! I had my fingers crossed .21:45
cognitiaclaeves:)21:45
del_Ben64: So he can use the group he just made then.  That is ok.  I was just showing the complete operation.  Again it does *not* matter what the name of the goup is.  It can be pineapple if you want.21:46
Ben64del_: i'm glad you figured that out after so many lines of pointless argument21:46
quitteNothing_Much: is your PSU plenty beefy enough?21:46
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, No I am using a chinese IR touch screen overlay on 42" TV21:47
RaMcHiP-MobileI can tell for sure that its getting an input21:47
RaMcHiP-Mobileand the coordinates are right21:47
del_Ben64: Maybe it is pointless argument but maybe you learned a little from it :)21:47
RaMcHiP-Mobileits even recognizing that it should invert axiw21:47
Ben64del_: there was nothing to learn from you21:47
RaMcHiP-Mobilebut its acting like its taking its own advice ;)21:47
RaMcHiP-Mobilelike its NOT taking its own advice21:48
needhelpHi21:48
needhelpI need some help with this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113588/install-from-persistent-liveusb-including-files-changes-on-casper-rw21:48
Semajnaddel_: I've put them in a group called server-admins, then chmod 774 /home/shared-files, but they still can not create directories inside shared-files. Should server-admins be those users primary group?21:48
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: how do you do the testing? here i see that it reacts to touch but i have no idea if the coordinates match anything21:48
SemajnadIf I do chmod 777 they can, so to me that seems like they are not part of the group?21:49
needhelpI can't figure out how to move my persistent usb's files onto a new install21:49
quittei think iut even got worse after putting the snippet in the config file21:49
Nothing_Muchquitte: Yes, it's 430 watts21:49
del_Semajnad: Uesers will need to log out and back in again for changes to be effective.21:49
Semajnaddel_: Thank you.21:49
quitteNothing_Much: that's not plenty21:49
Nothing_Muchquitte: The minimum requirements for the 750 Ti is 400 watts21:50
Semajnaddel_: Do you know a good RDP client that works with ubuntu-desktop?21:50
Semajnadserver*21:50
quitteNothing_Much: that's about just enough21:50
Nothing_MuchI am 30 watts over21:50
Nothing_MuchRight21:50
quittesee. it's probably the psu21:50
Nothing_MuchAnd that would cause Compiz to crash?21:50
Nothing_MuchWhat?21:50
Nothing_MuchAre you joking?21:50
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, I can just tell by the coordinates that it puts out21:50
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, the script it tells me to make looks absolutely proper21:50
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, it just doesnt seem to be taking its own advice21:50
a4hi guys, I've started aptitude and I saw 40 security updates. I would like to perform only security update, but after I press u, the amount of security updates keeps the same. What I'm doing wrong21:50
a4?21:50
blaaaa4: you need to install them21:51
quitteNothing_Much: the psu powers more than just the gpu. and the wattage is combined of all rails. so unless you have plenty...21:51
OerHeksit does what you want, security update only, so install those 4021:51
a4I know, and I also trying. but somehow I do something wrong. I press u, but that doesn't help21:52
RaMcHiP-MobileIf I do xorg it tells me to add to xorg.conf.d but there is none in etc/X1121:52
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, If I do xorg it tells me to add to xorg.conf.d but there is none in etc/X1121:52
del_Semajnad: krdc21:52
del_!krdc | Semajnad21:53
Semajnaddel_: Thank you21:53
quitteRaMcHiP-Mobile: there is one in usr/share. at least in debian. it tells you about that,too21:53
del_!info krdc | Semajnad21:53
ubottuSemajnad: krdc (source: krdc): Remote Desktop Connection client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.1-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 474 kB, installed size 1170 kB21:53
jcgsa4: press + on the updates you want to install, then press g to confirm21:53
quitteNothing_Much: try setting the power saving governor to energy saving in the nvidia control center21:54
del_a4: You should use apt-get21:54
jcgsa4: pressing u just updates the list of packages21:54
jcgsdel_: aptitude's not so bad...it's a bit easier to see what's available, especially when x breaks >.<21:55
Nothing_Muchquitte: I have a 45W APU21:55
del_!aptitude21:55
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.21:55
Nothing_MuchAnd apparently the recommended 400 W on the box was based on a Core i721:56
Nothing_MuchSo I can assume either 65W or 120W21:56
jcgsdel_: yeah but that was 12.04 :P21:56
quitteNothing_Much: if someone tells you that you need "at least this" it means any less and you're screwed21:56
Nothing_MuchThat the Core i7 would take up21:56
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del_jcgs: I see....21:56
RaMcHiP-Mobilequitte, thanks trying that now21:57
Nothing_Muchquitte: The ranked wattage for the 750 Ti it 65 W itself21:57
Semajnaddel_: Does KRDC have server software then?22:00
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Semajnaddel_: KRDC just seems to connect to the server, doesn't actually let you login with multiple sessions or does it?22:01
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del_Semajnad: You may just want vnc (session based?)  If so you can use tightvnc and/or x11vnc22:02
Semajnaddel_: I thought VNC wasn't session based? It just connects to whatever the server is on at the time of connecting?22:03
RaMcHiP-MobileGrrrr22:03
RaMcHiP-Mobileall I need to do is swap axis on this and its perfect22:03
Semajnaddel_: I want it so when you login, it asks for your ubuntu login details and then creates a session for you?22:03
Semajnaddel_: So more then one person can be logged in at once.22:03
RaMcHiP-Mobilewhen I touch middle of screen its dead on but goes exact oppisite of whatever direction I go so its 180' out of phase22:03
jcgsanyway...I just upgraded to 14.10 and now my sound doesn't work. I can't run alsamixer because I get the error message "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory22:04
jcgs"22:04
del_!info xtightvncviewer | Semajnad22:04
ubottuSemajnad: xtightvncviewer (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.10-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 52 kB, installed size 180 kB22:04
RaMcHiP-MobileSorry, 90' out of phase22:04
del_Semajnad: tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software  And there is also x11vnc  (server side)22:05
omosojhey all, when i try to ssh into something i get an error message asking for a keyring password22:05
del_omosoj: We hope you remember it.22:06
Semajnaddel_: So will x11vnc let users connecting have their own sessions, and ask for linux login details?22:06
del_Semajnad: Or not...22:06
omosojdel_, never set one22:06
del_Semajnad: default for x11vnc is no password, but you set it up as you see fit.22:06
Semajnaddel_: But doesn't VNC just haave a general VNC password, or can you set it up so it asks for a ubuntu username and password?22:07
del_Semajnad: Choice is yours22:07
jcgsomosoj: what is the error message?22:07
del_omosoj: Password recovery is not something we can help you with.22:08
Oxymorehello there, i have an issue when updating some php packages, here is my dpkg output https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0c93ada6ecc3d4086b88 , does anyone have a clue22:09
Nothing_MuchI really need help with my gpu22:10
omosojunlock private key. enter password to unlock private key. an application wants access to the private key '<email address>' but it is locked.22:10
omosojjcgs ^22:10
jcgsomosoj: what were you expecting? just to be asked the plain text password for the user account?22:10
del_Semajnad: x11vmc will let anyone connect. (So it is best to only turn it on when you need it, and yes, it is best to set a password, but if there are no untrusted users on your network, just leave it open.  Again, the choice is yours.22:11
omosojjcgs, not sure what i was expecting. i'm not an expert... i was trying to clone a repo from bitbucket... created a key etc, then got this error. (never have a problem with github)22:12
Semajnaddel_: I think I'm not explaining myself well. I want a way to connect to the Ubuntu GUI, so multiple users can be connected to the server at once. I want it so when you connect, it asks for your Ubuntu Login, not a general password. It will then load the user into their account.22:12
popeyNothing_Much: you need to be more specific22:12
del_Semajnad: You can ssh in and run it for one session, connect and after that it goes away.  x11vnc by itself is for only one session, x11vnc -forever is for continued use.22:12
omosojjcgs, but instead of downloading into the terminal, a window pops up with that message22:12
Semajnaddel_: But will it ask you for your ubuntu login, or just a general password. And can more then one person be connected to x11vnc at once?>22:12
Semajnaddel_: Doing different things?22:13
omosojthere are lot of people on google who have the problem, but haven't found a solution22:13
del_Semajnad: Linux Terminal Server may be more like what you are looking for.22:13
Oxymoreomosoj it's because your key is password protected, when you created it you must have set a password and forgot it22:14
Semajnaddel_: I'll look that up thanks.22:14
Semajnaddel_: So that would be like virtualisation?22:14
del_Semajnad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP22:14
Oxymoreomosoj if you don't use your key for anything else that github, just remove it and create a new one, if you set a passphrase don't forget it :)22:15
del_!ltsp22:15
ubottuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project22:15
omosojOxymore, are you sure?22:15
Oxymore99.5%22:15
omosojheh. i was going to say i was 99% sure i didn't put a password22:16
del_omosoj: That is because there is no solution.22:16
Oxymoreosomoj save your old key somewhere, and generate a new one, pay attention if ssh-keygen ask you to set a passphrase22:17
jcgsomosoj: this gnome-keyring thing sounds like a pain in the butt (pardon my french)...here is a suggestion grabbed from internet forum: sudo gconftool-2 --set -t bool /apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh false22:17
del_omosoj: If you use keyring and set a password and do not remember it there is not much we can do about it.  (Nor you for that matter.)22:17
omosojjcgs, what's that do?22:17
Oxymoreanyway, does anybody can help me with that crazy apt-get who won't upgrade my packages? :(22:17
jcgsomosoj: look here...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008797 but i haven't tested it22:17
del_Oxymore: sudo apt-get -f install22:18
Oxymoredel_ already tried, same problem22:18
omosojdel_, thank you for your help but i'm skeptical of you and your dour attitude.22:18
del_Oxymore: Pastebinit22:19
cristian_cHello22:19
Oxymoredel_ https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0c93ada6ecc3d4086b8822:19
cristian_cI've got a multimedia keyboard22:19
cristian_ceither /lib/udev/findkeyboards and sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX commands, pressing multimedia keys does nothing22:19
Oxymorethat's a dpkg output, but it's the same as the apt-get one22:19
cristian_csame situation with sudo evtest22:19
cristian_cAny ideas?22:19
jcgsOxymore: can you try just configuring php-cli on it's own as that is the one which is failing...are you even interested in that package?22:20
jcgsOxymore: correction there are three that are failing22:20
omosojjcgs, didn't work :/22:21
jcgsOxymore: unfortunately, all the log says is that a subprocess exited with status 1. That could mean absolutely anything... to find out what's actually wrong you'll need some more detail22:21
Oxymorejcgs indeed, but I can't put my finger on why they are failing, I even purged them, no difference22:21
Oxymorejcgs yeah, that's kind of the issue, I can't find any logs anywhere22:22
Oxymorei know it's in the postinst scripts, but no idea what's actually crashing22:22
del_Oxymore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libapache2-mod-php22:23
del_Oxymore: (in other words, try doing them individually...)22:24
Oxymoredel_ i'll try that22:25
del_Oxymore: I left off the 5 (libapache2-mod-php5)22:26
jcgsOxymore: apparently the script lives in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.postinst22:27
jcgsOxymore: you can run it manually from there and see what it says22:27
jcgsOxymore: in theory all postinst scripts are required to be written in a way which means that runnning them multiple times is not harmful, but it might be worth trying to undertand what it is attempting to do first by reading it22:28
Oxymorejcgs I already tried that, but I've some dpkg related error poping up when I do22:29
OxymoreI fully purged php5 packages again and I'm trying to install from a ppa, maybe that'll do it22:29
jcgsOxymore: anything helpful? did the script exit with status 1 (the status can be checked by running echo $? after the script in bash)22:30
jcgsOxymore: you will have to run <script> configure btw22:31
Oxymorejcgs sorry i went dark, full purge + reinstall from ppa:ondrej/php5 fixed the problem22:36
omosojOxymore, if i want to remove and create a new key, i should just delete the files in .ssh and redo the process?22:36
omosojssh-keygen etc...22:36
obounaimIs there a good tool to manage updates for multiple Ubuntu/debian serveurs?22:36
obounaimthanks22:36
Oxymoreomosoj yes, but don't hard delete the old one, save it somewhere, just in case22:37
omosojk, thanks22:37
jcgsOxymore: no worries22:38
jcgsmy sound has magically fixed itself somehow so I'm all set :)22:38
jcgsbye chaps22:38
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omosojthanks everyone for the help22:53
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new_nerdNOTICE new_nerd :_VERSION Telnet version 1.0b_22:56
new_nerdprivmsg #ubuntu : qualcuno mi potrebbe rispondere? non capisco nulla22:57
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ubottunew_nerd: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)22:58
new_nerdprivmsg #ubuntu : sorry for my italian in my previous message. I am a new user just discovered this... can someone help me in discovernif commands and structures?22:59
newASonlineem.. help?22:59
bisuhello?23:00
new_nerdhello?23:00
new_nerdbisu?23:00
bisuhello23:00
k1l!ask23:00
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:00
bisui have a problem when i want enter dates in mysql with php23:01
new_nerdI have a problem because I don't know any command yet aahahahh23:01
bisuyou can ask in google23:01
bisuhe have all comands23:01
k1lnew_nerd: please dont spoil the channel. its for technical ubuntu support23:01
bisuin linux23:01
newASonlineem.. graphic card fail after update?23:02
k1lnewASonline: which ubuntu exactly and which video card?23:02
k1lbisu: dont tell others to google. especially when you need support yourself, that doesnt look good.23:02
newASonlineem...12.04 lts (i think)..23:02
newASonline12.04.423:02
k1lnewASonline: "lsb_release -d"23:03
new_nerdsorry didnt ment to spoil the channel.. my apologies. where should I go to learn some commands and not to disturb?23:03
newASonlineem.. translate for dumb asses?23:03
bisuoh i asked google but no have information23:03
k1lnewASonline: "lsb_release -d" in a terminal will tell you the exact version23:04
bisubut what is the problem why i'm can't enter datas in mysql with php23:04
k1lnew_nerd: which commands? ubuntu terminal commands?23:04
newASonlineow.. ok, ok23:04
new_nerdk1l how can I send you pvt not to spoil the general chat?23:04
bisugoogle say nothing23:04
k1lnew_nerd: if its ubuntu support ask in here23:05
Bashing-omnewASonline: For help about freenode -> " /join #freenode , for help with irssi -> /join #irssi .23:05
newASonlinelsb_release -d --- >Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS23:05
k1lnewASonline: ok, which video card and which driver do you run?23:05
newASonlineem..  no idea.. generic for now.. it ask's me to install amd graphic ..  ?23:06
Bashing-omnew_nerd: my apologies newASonline, new_nerd ^^ above.23:07
Airbanderguys any expret in linux i have some questions23:07
MarasgeonI have a problem with a specific SD card, ubuntu see the card it says unknown format23:07
newASonlinegraphic card is known to me under  name "AN3450/DI/512MD2/(LP)23:07
new_nerdquit23:07
k1lnewASonline: ok please pastbin the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3"23:07
SchrodingersScat!ask | Airbander23:07
ubottuAirbander: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:07
newASonlineem.. why are u apologizeing again? :-D23:07
bisuanyone have idea the why i can't enter dates in mysql whith php23:08
ikoniatry asking in ##php23:08
ikoniathat will support php programming23:08
Airbanderi love to know what is the best distro for a beginner like me23:08
ikoniaubuntu is a good starting point23:09
ikoniatry it,23:09
ikoniaif you don't like it, try a different one23:09
newASonline01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]23:09
k1lAirbander: since you ask in a ubuntu channel. ubuntu :)23:09
newASonline01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]23:09
Airbanderi have right now xubuntu 6423:09
newASonline RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450 AGP] [1002:95c6]23:09
k1l!paste | newASonline23:09
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ubottunewASonline: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:09
ikoniagood starting point, see how you get one23:09
ikoniaon23:09
newASonlineow.. soeey23:09
bisusay nothing no have idea i write all sintaxis that i show in a bocks and tutorial23:09
newASonlinesorry23:09
ikoniabisu: try the ##php chanel23:09
bisuoh oh oh23:09
ikoniabisu: that channel will support your php programming23:09
bisusorry23:09
bisuokay okay23:09
k1lnewASonline: that command should do more than that, please put all in the pastebin23:10
Airbanderthe problem i dont know to deal with problems23:10
Airbanderi need to ask every time i have a problem23:10
Airbanderthis make me feel like donky23:10
FilthyAirbander: google is your friend23:10
ikoniaAirbander: what do you want us to do about that ?23:10
k1lAirbander: start using it. if you got a problem you can ask here or search online if someone already got a solution23:10
newASonlinedamn.. my dvd player is pissed :-D i am running live version at the moment :-D23:10
Airbanderi want understand the whol system23:10
Airbanderany books ?23:11
Airbanderor videos23:11
ikoniaAirbander: not really23:11
ikoniaAirbander: https://help.ubuntu.com23:11
ikoniaAirbander: thats a good guide for an introduction and getting things done23:11
k1l!rute | Airbander23:11
ubottuAirbander: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com23:11
Marasgeonwhy gparted pops up libparted bug when I try to write partition table to a SD card?23:11
[N]eoAirbander: Go to the library. Pick on books on Linux. ??? Profit23:11
Airbanderthanks guys for helping me23:11
newASonlinegot it.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8752840/23:11
quitteAirbander: /usr/share/doc is a good place to look for specific packages23:12
newASonlineis  it ok?23:12
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solsTiCehi. Anyone knows why I have 2 entries called ubuntu in grub2 ? one is with a capital Ubuntu and boots windows (yeah !) and the other one ubuntu without capital boots ubuntu.23:12
k1lnewASonline: its a AGP card?23:12
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newASonlineyap23:12
ki7mtAirbander, Also: https://ubuntu-manual.org/23:12
k1lnewASonline: well, i think that old cards are not supported by amd anymore. so i suggest to use the free driver as you do now23:13
newASonlineyes.. that would be ok.. but.. than i may not restart :-S and use only live version from now on?23:14
newASonlineseriusly??23:14
k1lnewASonline: what?23:15
k1lwhy that?23:15
newASonlineexactly..23:15
newASonlinei use live version..23:15
k1lnewASonline: can you please describe the whole issue?23:15
newASonlineright now.. fresh install23:15
Bashing-omnewASonline: AMD has dropped support for that card, you are running the open source driver that does support that grahics card. Is there a specific problem now ?23:16
newASonlineafter update.. black screen.. i understand no more support for graphic's.. but.. is there a way to get update's, but to not update graphic's?23:16
AcIdBaThhey guys im trying to create a mac os usb with ubuntu 14.10.23:16
solsTiCe... and the windows entry does not boot windows. it gives an error !23:16
newASonlinerunning 12.04.4 lts.. live version - fresh installed23:17
newASonlinei fi reboot got black screen.. "updates"23:17
k1lAcIdBaTh: see mac support if they actually allow to be macOS run on usb.23:17
newASonlineif i*23:17
AcIdBaThyeah cause converting the .dmg to .img and using unetbooting dont work23:18
k1lnewASonline: so to sum that up: after installation you get a black screen while it works on live-system?23:18
newASonlineyap23:18
k1lAcIdBaTh: that is more a problem of the OS (mac OS) instead of ubuntu23:18
k1l!nomodeset | newASonline try that one.23:19
ubottunewASonline try that one.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:19
newASonlinebecause.. no more support for graphic's as i understand..23:19
AcIdBaThive been searching and cant find anything. The hdd messed up n the only other computer i have is on ubuntu23:19
k1lnewASonline: no more support for the propritary driver from ati/amd. but there should be support from the open-source community driver23:19
k1lnewASonline: so: fglrx=nono, radeon=yes23:19
k1lAcIdBaTh: sorry, but we cant help you with thet macOS issue.23:20
newASonlineem.. engleash?23:20
newASonlinek1l23:20
AcIdBaThthats cool. Thanx anyway.23:20
k1lnewASonline: you have 2 different drivers. fglrx is the amd one, radeon is the free community one. radeon sould work.23:21
newASonlineem.. ok? can u guide me to the process?23:22
newASonlineplease?23:22
newASonlinesorry, 4 being complete newb..23:22
newASonlineone question..23:22
k1li dont know amd cards. but i would suggest to try nomodeset as kernel parameter. which the bot told you23:23
newASonlinenevermind23:23
newASonlineso what exactly do i need to do?23:24
Mendax1what is the deal?23:24
Mendax1havent been on this channel in a long time23:25
BlasterAnyone here done VT-d with QEMU and KVM?23:25
ikoniaMendax1: it's exactly the same as it always is, ubuntu support discussion23:25
k1l!nomodeset | newASonline23:25
ubottunewASonline: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:25
Mendax1what do you think about ubunut over all?23:25
Mendax1i think that it maybe likened to spyware23:26
ikoniathen you are wrong23:26
ikoniaand if you think that don't use it23:26
manuelperrottahello everybody23:26
Mendax1why shouldnt i think that if i look at the OS objectively?23:27
ikoniayou can think that23:27
ikoniaand the best answer is to use a different OS23:27
k1lMendax1: do you have an actual support issue? for chatting we hav #ubuntu-offtopic23:27
ikonianot really anything to do with this channel,23:27
Mendax1why the millitancy>23:27
newASonlinek1l.. ? sorry, but what?  grub is boot, right?23:27
ikoniathere is no millitancy23:27
ikoniayou're miss-informed23:28
Mendax1ill-informed rather23:28
ikoniayou're welcome to change that opinion, however if you don't want to, the best answer is to use a different OS23:28
ikoniaok, you're ill-informed23:28
ikoniabut the situation is the same23:28
k1lMendax1: because you start with a lie? you have been here 3 days ago.23:28
FreeStyleHow can I change the icon size of notification area in gnome 3.4? I'm in a fallback session.23:28
Mendax1excuse me23:28
k1lMendax1: so dont spoil this channel. stick to the rules. keep it clear for ubuntu support. thanks23:28
Mendax1this is a valid point with reasons..23:29
ikoniaMendax1: there is no valid point23:29
ikoniaMendax1: you think it's spyware, thats your opinion, fine, don't use it,23:29
ikonianothing more to say on it23:29
k1lnewASonline: yes. see the bots message and the link in it. it describes that23:29
Mendax1this channel dose not give justice to IRC23:29
Mendax1for what it means23:29
ikoniaMendax1: what do you want from this channel ?23:29
manuelperrottayesss23:30
newASonlineso.. do i need to reboot to fix that issue?23:31
diegoaguilarI stopped it as soon as I could and the writing zeros count was on 0% when I stopped it how could I try recover the partition and some files?23:31
stikikkohello23:39
daftykinshi23:40
somsip!info mysql-server23:40
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.40-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 12 kB, installed size 123 kB23:40
stikikkonooooo23:41
daftykinsstikikko: do you have a question?23:42
xfyI want to run a simple web server to debug http GET requests. I need the entire GET header request but using "python SimpleHTTPServer" and the like type of solution is only outputting certain request headers. How do I deal/display them all?23:43
CCCFireif i load ubuntu on usb stick, will i still be able to use the other files on the stick?23:43
xfyI need the RAW packet23:43
daftykinsxfy: tcpdump23:44
k1lCCCFire: it will format that usb stick23:44
xfydaftykins, There is no verbose mode with any inbuilt httpd that I could display the raw packet? :P23:44
daftykinsmight be, but i'm just saying what i know for sure23:45
xfyI know. That is an ption hah23:45
CCCFireso will it still be usable as a flash drive?23:45
xfyI was just expecting to see the output23:46
k1lCCCFire: afterwards you can put files on it, too. yes23:46
CCCFireok.23:46
CCCFireis it possible to switch my OS back and forth?23:47
k1lCCCFire: what do you mean?23:48
PynoHi can someone help me I have made a python script saved it now when i click open it doesnt open with python.. i tried open with and python isnt on the list23:51
IoyriePyno: #python23:52
k1lPyno: is it permissions +x?23:53
Pynoyeh  i guess23:53
Pyno  gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/pdfedit.desktop i tried this ( but instead using python from app list)23:54
Pyno[Desktop Entry] Name=PDF Editor Comment=PDF Editor Exec=pdfedit Icon=/usr/share/pdfedit/icon/pdfedit_logo.png Type=Application StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Categories=TextTools;Viewer;Graphics;Qt;23:54
Pynothen that with python for exec etc..etc23:54
Pynothen saved it but what should i save it as23:54
ikoniaPyno: what's the "exec" it's running23:55
Pynobtw the python-unregistered isnt work23:55
Mightcould3yay chipotle23:55
Pynoing*23:55
PynoPython 3.423:55
ikoniaPyno: can you show me the exec line please.23:55
Pynothen i saved that to desktop but what should i save it as23:55
Pynohttp://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/ubuntu-fix-add-program-to-list-of-applications-in-open-with-when-right-clicking-files-in-nautilus/ i used these instructions23:55
ikoniaPyno: can you show me the exec line please.23:55
Pynookay23:55
Pynohow do i do that ?23:56
ikoniawhat is the actual command it's executing23:56
PynoDesktop Entry] Name=Python Comment=Python editor Exec=Python 3.4 %f Icon=/usr/share/pdfedit/icon/pdfedit_logo.png Type=Application StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Categories=TextTools;Viewer;Graphics;Qt;23:57
ikoniapython 3.4 isn't something you execute23:57
Pynothen how do i run IDLE scripts ive saved?23:57
ikoniaidle ?23:57
PynoIDLE is what you use to make the scripts23:58
Pynowhere can i find the python IDLE maybe i need to use that as exec line23:58
ikoniaI don't know what idle is, sorry23:58
k1ldo you mean IDE ?23:58
Pynono23:58
PynoIDLE is just the text editor for python23:58
Pynonvm ill look up where its located23:59
Ioyriebuild-compile23:59
k1lPyno: so to start from the beginning: does the script itself is set to +x to let it be executed at all?23:59

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