[00:00] <gac> i'm assuming there's a driver as that BT chipset is included in several certified laptops - potentially an rfkill issue, or something to do with the hardware switch. that'd be my guess, but it's just a guess
[00:00] <[Saint_]> ditched grub2 for grub, grub2 install errors out. Reboot required, wish me luck.
[00:00] <lagbox> the results i am seeing seem to imply you need to build the driver
[00:00] <Guest28273> Curious I am wondering what is the oldest version of linux that has a firefox browser that supports the current website technology I am using this old lucid version 10 ish and this computer is 512 MB  , AMD Athlon XP 1500+ processor , with 80 GB HD
[00:01] <lagbox> Guest28273, well you would have to look into firefox and find when they implemented html5
[00:01] <lonewulf85> lagbox, any ideas or sites that I can use as a reference?
[00:01] <Guest28273> The browser I am trying to get to work with the newest web sites the only way to do this is install a new version of ubuntu but I don''t want to install a to new version that would run to slow for this slow computer already
[00:02] <Guest28273> No , I just want to know what ubuntus repo support what firefox versions quickly without have to look it up
[00:02] <lagbox> lonewulf i just googled "ubuntu Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth"
[00:02] <bazhang> !info firefox
[00:02] <gac> Guest28273: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:02] <bazhang> Guest28273, ^
[00:02] <lonewulf85> lagbox, I did and got an ubuntu forms site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2115570.html should that work?
[00:02] <OerHeks> Guest28273, the bottleneck is your videocard, ram and cpu, not an older firefox
[00:03] <OerHeks> Guest28273, get Xubuntu for such ancient hardware
[00:03] <kojakzito> k1l: ok now I removed everything and was able to move forward. Now im getting this (After sudo apt-get install ... apache2-prefork-dev):
[00:03] <kojakzito> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  apache2-prefork-dev : Depends: libaprutil1-dev but it is not going to be installed
[00:03] <lagbox> idk i suppose its worth a try
[00:04] <gac> kojakzito: try installing the lib manually - it could be that the 12.04 version can't be installed because it conflicts with the 13.10 software you've probably got on your system now due to your sources.list mishap
[00:04] <Ben64> kojakzito: yeah, looks like a broken system to me. you should remember this for future reference, and install 14.04
[00:04] <gac> kojakzito: at this point, if you need this box to be reliable, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to just rebuild it
[00:07] <[Saint_]> Just wanted to come back and say thank you to those who attempted to assist me through this
[00:07] <Guest28273> forget it normally I have to figure it out anyway
[00:07] <[Saint_]> I have it "fixed"
[00:07] <[Saint_]> Swapping out grub2 for grub "Just Worked(TM)"
[00:08] <kojakzito> yeah
[00:09] <kojakzito> ill just go ahead and reinstall the system
[00:09] <kojakzito> brb!
[00:12] <lagbox> lol
[00:12] <lonewulf85> lagbox, I tried to make the drive and still no luck
[00:12] <lagbox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/324115/ralink-bluetooth-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-04   that is the one i was reading
[00:13] <lagbox> i would imagine that there may be a driver already and that driver needs to be blacklisted
[00:13] <lonewulf85> lagbox, I will give that a shot
[00:13] <lagbox> but im just kinda guessing my friend
[00:13] <lagbox> i haven't had a need for my bluetooth so i haven't tried to enable it yet
[00:14] <dj> i am having problems setting up OpenVPN on my system. I have downloaded the pkg and ran command   dpkg -i openvpn-as-2.0.10-Ubuntu14.i386.deb and it gives me   dpkg: error processing archive openvpn-as-2.0.10-Ubuntu14.i386.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory.   How do I install the package
[00:14] <Ben64> dj: why are you using the deb
[00:14] <BlackDalek> Is there any way to get the people in the #libreoffice channel to become active? They are always asleep ;)
[00:15] <dj> Ben64: I downloaded it from the openvpn website. I was trying to follow their instructions
[00:15] <lonewulf85> lagbox, I want to transfer files from my pc to my tablet with out the usb cable.
[00:15] <Ben64> dj: it is in the ubuntu repositories, use that. Ubuntu Software Center or open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install openvpn"
[00:15] <lagbox> well that is a good use for it :)
[00:15] <lonewulf85> lagbox. lol yeah i thought so
[00:15] <lagbox> actually my bluetooth used to be enabled .. atm in 14.10 it isn't even accesible
[00:16] <lonewulf85> lagbox, nice
[00:16] <BlackDalek> Does anyone in here know anything about working with video clips in Libreoffice Impress?
[00:17] <Buzhang> !ops | bazhang
[00:17] <dj> Ben64: Thank you. I got it from the repository now, but how do I access it? i am fairly new to Linux
[00:17] <lonewulf85> BlackDalek, I have not even tried but thumbs up why not use dalekcon
[00:18] <lagbox> okie dokie then
[00:18] <Ben64> dj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[00:18] <dj> Ben64:  Thank you for your help
[00:20] <BlackDalek> I have a problem with Impress where I inserted a video clip into a slide, but then I needed to edit the video clip, and when I re-inserted the NEW video clip, the old (I assume cached) version of the clip is inserted instead. It just refuses to update to the current version of the video clip. :(
[00:20] <Guest28273> firefox build 33.0 for ubuntu 14 ish and precises 12 ish has the same version of firefox about  , lucid update has say firefox 20.0 so I big leap I would say either uses 13 or 14  don't know how much performance hinderness is between 13 to 14 but not sure I even care to look it up
[00:21] <BlackDalek> I am hoping someone knows how to or if it is possible to delete Libreoffice Impress' cache for video files (if such a thing exists).
[00:24] <Ben64> Guest28273: 13.04 and 13.10 are both out of support
[00:24] <FilthyMacNasty> then I guess I should do something about my dapper mail server
[00:25] <[Saint_]> Sooooo - the path back to sanity was kinda weird.
[00:25] <Ben64> Guest28273: you should install either 12.04 or 14.04, 12.04 is supported until 2017, which hopefully you can get a better computer by then, or if not, 14.04 is supported until 2019 :D
[00:26] <[Saint_]> uninstall grub; purge the excess kernels; reinstall grub; update grub; install grub2, update grub
[00:26] <[Saint_]> Now to see if I can replicate that success on a real machine.
[00:26] <Ben64> [Saint_]: got grub and grub2 installed? doesn't sound like a good idea
[00:26] <[Saint_]> Ben64: no...that's impossible.
[00:26] <Ben64> that is what you said
[00:27] <[Saint_]> It is, but one should know that grub2 will remove grub.
[00:27] <Ben64> who knows man, you could get around that
[00:27] <Guest28273> O wait firefox and html5 not even sure they implemented the complete standards for it but most of it so I guess the equation is the browser that will last the longest for new site in the future so I don't have to upgrade .... hmmm maybe just uses/try ubuntu 14 and forget everything else it is for another computer guy but he only really uses the browser sometimes so I could go with a new distro but why complicate things
[00:28] <[Saint_]> You actually can't...but, whatever.
[00:28] <lagbox> no single version of a browser will be current
[00:28] <lagbox> they are constantly updating
[00:28] <Ben64> Guest28273: you should really use the whole version. there is no "ubuntu 14" there is 14.04 and 14.10
[00:28] <[Saint_]> grub(2) has quite some protection from stupidity, for exactly this reason.
[00:28] <kojakzito> just re-installed the box, 12.04 LTS
[00:28] <[Saint_]> Its not possible to have both installed unless you do some _extreme_ manual fuckery.
[00:29] <Ben64> kojakzito: why not 14.04?
[00:29] <Ben64> [Saint_]: watch the language here
[00:29] <Guest28273> well I would like an operating system of linux that supports the 99.999% of websites without having to reinstall another OS in a couple of years or do updates every 3 to 6 months
[00:29] <kojakzito> Ben64: I'm forced to use this one.
[00:29] <kojakzito> i' d choose 14.04 no questions
[00:29] <lagbox> you can't
[00:29] <lagbox> as websites are built using newer technologies that 99% number will become impossible
[00:30] <Ben64> Guest28273: i've explained this already. 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 until 2019. pick one
[00:30] <jayar> anyone use/recommend Artillery?
[00:31] <Guest28273> Plus I need new internet capablities on a limited hardware old machine so if not ubuntu what other linux one would you recommend that would run fast and not be like tinylinux or some other archic hard to uses linux for the nonlinux user... for me i don't have any problem with any version ... not for me and tell me something I don't know
[00:31] <[Saint_]> With the slow and broken adoption of HTTP2 draft, it'll be impossible to obtain that 99.999% number for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
[00:31] <[Saint_]> The Internet is always, constantly, being broken.
[00:31] <lagbox> i would imagine there is some backporting going on in those versions
[00:31] <daftykins> Guest28273: i'm a little lost as to why you believe an OS is holding back websites
[00:31] <[Saint_]> Always has been, always will be.
[00:32] <OerHeks> jayar that would be more a backtrack or kali question
[00:32] <Ben64> Guest28273: this is an ubuntu support channel, this is not the place to get distro recommendations
[00:32] <Guest28273> Ok for the major sites like yahoo , google , sports fantasy football ,...etc sites
[00:32] <lagbox> hehe
[00:32] <lagbox> google is the site that uses bleeding edge
[00:32] <[Saint_]> I was just going to say.
[00:32] <lagbox> atleast for parts of it
[00:32] <Ben64> Guest28273: for the 42nd time, 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 is supported until 2019. pick one of them, or pick another distro. stop asking the same question over and over
[00:33] <[Saint_]> Google is _constantly_ failing to correctly apply SSL2/TLS
[00:33] <[Saint_]> As is Mozilla, rather hilariously.
[00:33] <lagbox> even facebook is a super heavy demand on your browser
[00:33] <Guest28273> because the OS only can have certain versions of firefox install only updates so high until it get ridiculous to install stuff plugins break and all kind of other shit that would be a waste of time for me to even try to figure out how to fix
[00:33] <Ben64> Guest28273: for the 42nd time, 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 is supported until 2019. pick one of them, or pick another distro. stop asking the same question over and over
[00:33] <[Saint_]> lagbox: that's mainly because its trying to suck your history out of every other site you've got an active session cookie for. ;p
[00:34] <lagbox> hehe
[00:34] <lagbox> i would imagine the older versions are getting some backporting
[00:34] <[Saint_]> said user seems to be missing the point of what LTS means entirely.
[00:34] <[Saint_]> And/or inventing reality
[00:35] <Guest28273> If I uses 14 will it run or be to slow on an AMD Athlon XP 1500+ . memory 512 MB
[00:35] <OerHeks> Guest28273, get Xubuntu for such ancient hardware
[00:35] <lagbox> dont use unity
[00:35] <lagbox> and dont use a 3d desktop
[00:35] <[Saint_]> Anything'll run slow on such hardware, really.
[00:35] <Guest28273> if not will 12 do anything significantly better ... I mean 10 lucid seems to be medium speed already
[00:35] <[Saint_]> You'd have to have some form of VERY minimal setup for that to not run like a bag of crap.
[00:35] <lagbox> there are ways to gain performance on older systems but that is a process
[00:35] <[Saint_]> LXDE+openbox, or even perhaps solely openbox.
[00:35] <lagbox> lots of tweaking
[00:36] <[Saint_]> Even LXDE is probably too heavy for 512MB RAM
[00:36] <lagbox> window maker :)
[00:36] <Guest28273> Well of course I will turn off monitor features to speedup things but other then that I cann\t manipulate much more even if I in large swap space it is not going to speed anything up :)
[00:36] <[Saint_]> On a system with that little CPU and RAM, I wouldn't even consider trying to run a GUI.
[00:36] <lagbox> yea you will hit a limit
[00:36] <Guest28273> will the monitor toning it down be enough
[00:37] <lagbox> make sure it has a decent graphics card if your worried about video
[00:37] <lagbox> that processor wont handle software decompression very well i would imagine
[00:37] <[Saint_]> With an Athlon XP 1500+ and 512MB RAM, I sincerely doubt it has decent graphics capabilities.
[00:37] <lagbox> i mean video decoding
[00:37] <[Saint_]> Likely some embedded chipset cruft.
[00:37] <lagbox> i have boxes that have those specs but they are headless
[00:38] <Guest28273> fuck this old hardware shit I have had enough mucking with and fixing this shit to the point of ridiculousness I still have more then 10 year old computers running fine but laptops suck my dick
[00:38] <lagbox> laptops can be a pain because they are already slower
[00:38] <Guest28273> right
[00:38] <Ben64> Guest28273:  hey, that language is not appreciated in this channel
[00:38] <Guest28273> well I am going to give it a try at least
[00:38] <lagbox> i literally bought a refurb 2 years ago this time for $300 that is a beast of a laptop
[00:39] <[Saint_]> If you buy a crap laptop...it'll be a crap laptop.
[00:39] <[Saint_]> A craptop.
[00:39] <lagbox> when i mean beast i mean good
[00:39] <[Saint_]> There are, however, laptops that vastly excede most consuer desktops of the day.
[00:39] <[Saint_]> You get what you pay for.
[00:40] <Guest28273> At the vary least I can at least download the newest tar of firefox and uses that with out the plugin features most of the other features will work just not video/flash things
[00:40] <[Saint_]> *consumer
[00:40] <lagbox> exactly
[00:40] <lagbox> Guest28273, hopefully
[00:40] <lagbox> i guess it cant hurt to try
[00:40] <lagbox> turn off all services you dont need, etc
[00:40] <[Saint_]> Guest28273: is the expense prohibitive, or...what?
[00:41] <Guest28273> You get what you pay for well how about i get access to all the companies and make everything from scratch with a few people helping here and there don't need much just access and time to thing
[00:41] <[Saint_]> There's very little good reason to be running hardware that is a decade old in this day and age.
[00:41] <lagbox> Guest28273, would be nice
[00:42] <[Saint_]> Well...there's nothing stopping you from doing that. One can buy generic laptop cases the same as they can PC cases.
[00:42] <[Saint_]> I've built all my laptops based on requirement.
[00:42] <[Saint_]> You can too.
[00:42] <lagbox> yes you can build your own .... it just doesn't seem to be cheaper
[00:42] <Guest28273> I still don't get how people define a persons worth by money smarts strength "NATURAL" will I have to say pound for pound nobody comes closes
[00:42] <[Saint_]> Oh, no, certainly not.
[00:42] <Guest28273> well except maybe a few
[00:42]  * [Saint_] fails to parse that
[00:42] <[Saint_]> It was just a random jumble of words
[00:42] <lagbox> Guest28273, yes we have a crazy society where our self worth is skewd
[00:43] <lagbox> but back to ubuntu
[00:43] <gac> i don't think anyone here is defining you based on money - we're just curious why you're persevering with such old hardware which is already frustrating you right now, and is only going to get worse
[00:43] <Guest28273> ya if I had access to everything then maybe people would see that I can do there work just as good as them
[00:43] <lagbox> Guest28273, and i would like to see you have that oppurtunity
[00:43] <[Saint_]> gac: well said
[00:43] <gac> if computing is important to you, as it seems to be, it's worth investing a little in
[00:44] <[Saint_]> no one is defining you as anything, Guest28273.
[00:44] <[Saint_]> We're just wondering why you're keeping decade old hardware alive for seemingly no reason.
[00:44] <gac> i wish I could run the same computer I had 10 years ago - if I want a good experience then I can't, and I have to deal with that with occasional upgrades
[00:44] <[Saint_]> Which is a valid question.
[00:44] <gac> "such is life"
[00:44] <lagbox> im not better because i have a newer laptop, that would be silly and immoral
[00:44] <FilthyMacNasty> I got a cloud of old crap computers people dropped off at ny computer shop
[00:44] <Ben64> can you move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <[Saint_]> ...a please would be nice.
[00:45] <lagbox> i know this has been answered im sure ... is it possible to test out mir yet on 14.10 ?
[00:45] <Guest28273> well working when I am at my best not when I am pissed off or using 10/20% ish of my ability
[00:46] <lagbox> or are we still that far off
[00:46] <[Saint_]> lagbox: its been possible for roughly a year
[00:46] <[Saint_]> longer, I think.
[00:47] <Guest28273> the whole point of this question is irrelevent I had the means to figure it out if I really wanted to hell I have computers that are like 13 years old running fine I don't think I would have to much problems figuring this out problem is it gets as boreing here with nothing to do
[00:47] <lagbox> gotcha
[00:47] <FilthyMacNasty> don't feel bad, my mail server still runs dapper drake
[00:47] <Guest28273> so I like getting the people going lol
[00:48] <gac> 6.06; that seems...brave
[00:48] <lagbox> noice
[00:48] <FilthyMacNasty> it's never been blacklisted for getting pwned
[00:48] <OerHeks> lagbox, the closest thing you can get to even trying the Mir/Unity 8 combination is a special ISO build called Ubuntu Desktop Next. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/is-mir-and-convergent-desktop-hampering-the-development-of-ubuntu/
[00:48] <lagbox> OerHeks, thanks
[00:49] <lagbox> and i love that title
[00:49] <[Saint_]> errr, that's not even remotely true.
[00:49] <[Saint_]> We've been able to run a Mir preview you an age.
[00:49] <[Saint_]> bah. damn autocomplete
[00:49] <OerHeks> it is pointing to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ and should seek support in #ubuntu+1
[00:50] <[Saint_]> see: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html
[00:50] <[Saint_]> that's been a possibility since...jeez, 13.04?
[00:51] <lagbox> i would rather them have had mir ready for desktop instead of worrying about mobile
[00:52] <[Saint_]> lagbox: makes more sense for them to work out the kinks on the smaller platform
[00:52] <[Saint_]> it'll get there.
[00:52] <[Saint_]> slowly.
[00:52] <[Saint_]> As most things Ubuntu do.
[00:53] <FilthyMacNasty> it will either work or die
[00:53] <[Saint_]> Many would argue it is dead already but Ubuntu is just overly persistent with flogging a dead horse.
[00:53]  * [Saint_] shrugs
[00:53] <lagbox> indeed
[00:53] <lagbox> thanks for the info
[00:54] <FilthyMacNasty> they dumped that ubuntu one idea like a hot rock
[00:54] <lagbox> now back to playing with drivers to get off of fglrx
[00:55] <[Saint_]> Well, in all seriousness, Ubuntu One was largely irrelevant.
[00:56] <[Saint_]> No reason to concentrate on a cloud storage platform when many other players are vastly better at it than you are.
[00:56] <[Saint_]> One of the few times Ubuntu seems to have admitted an irrelevancy instead of forcing it and beating it into the ground.
[00:57] <reisio> I thought that was all Canonical did
[00:57] <Ben64> !ot
[00:57] <FilthyMacNasty> I built a 4tb owncloud and it does my shop fine
[00:58] <reisio> FilthyMacNasty: how does owncloud abstract the hardwre?
[00:58] <reisio> hardware*
[01:00] <FilthyMacNasty> sorry to sound silly but abstract the hardware? it runs on 14.04 like a dream
[01:01] <reisio> the only theoretically quantifiable aspect of 'cloud' is abstracted hardwre, the rest is 100% marketing nonsense :p
[01:01] <elegant> anybody?
[01:01] <reisio> hardware*
[01:01] <reisio> elegant: ?
[01:01] <Ben64> elegant: anybody what
[01:01] <elegant> can we speak chinese?
[01:02] <GanjaR> Has anyone here used TCHunt before?????
[01:02] <FilthyMacNasty> nah, we americans arranged it in world war 2 that you dont speak japanese
[01:02] <Ben64> elegant: this channel is English only, but you can join #ubuntu-cn
[01:03] <elegant> got
[01:03] <reisio> elegant: /msg alis list *ubunt*zh
[01:03] <reisio> elegant: /msg alis list *ubunt*cn
[01:04] <elegant> ok  thank you
[01:06] <elegant> all people in this channel all use ubuntu ?
[01:06] <Guest28273> so why does the new ubuntu 14 have the same issues of not being to install a flash plugin or html5 plugin/extension to work with youtube cann';t play anything on youtube with firefox
[01:06] <reisio> elegant: no, just a majority
[01:06] <reisio> Guest28273: I don't believe it has
[01:06] <Guest28273> that is for firefox
[01:06] <reisio> Guest28273: what is for?
[01:06] <reisio> Guest28273: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[01:07] <OerHeks> Guest28273, what videocard?
[01:07] <Guest28273> so firefox now cann't listen to music or play flash based website what kind of fucking shit is this
[01:07] <OerHeks> single core and flash is a pain yes
[01:09] <Guest28273> intel second generation core processor family integration graphics controller
[01:10] <gjo> hi, i need help with unity after upgrade to 14.10
[01:10] <BlackDalek> How do I stop cached version of video clip being inserted into Impress slide?
[01:11] <daftykins> Guest28273: 1) keep the language family friendly in here place 2) the above is pasted/typed out of context
[01:11] <Guest28273> there is no flash for firefox to uses on this  no plugin because of the video being not supported or something for the graphics card ? well is there at least away to get the audio on youtube work or is the audio card to slow to
[01:12] <EriC^^> gjo: what's the problem?
[01:12] <gjo> icons do not appear after logon.
[01:12] <gjo> see System program problem detected window
[01:13] <daftykins> Guest28273: i believe you can install chrome's pepperflash
[01:13] <Guest28273> firefox and youtube/flash plugins/extension newest browser runs fine on new os on old hard ware but plugins aren't there and
[01:13] <gjo> i can click the report problem button
[01:14] <gjo> then what?
[01:14] <EriC^^> gjo: there is a show details button
[01:14] <EriC^^> gjo: try to reset compiz dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[01:15] <EriC^^> gjo: then type setsid unity
[01:15] <Guest28273> my ass not in the main repo why does this have to be difficult because people like to fuck with me thats there hole purpose cann't ever go easy
[01:15] <gjo> i do not see show details button
[01:15] <xangua> !language | Guest28273
[01:15] <gjo> all windows are gone
[01:15] <gac> Guest28273: no one is doing anything with you but yourself. you're using an unsupported OS, on a computer which really should be retired
[01:15] <gac> there's nothign anyone in this channel can do about that
[01:16] <gjo> i tried to reset compiz but that did not work
[01:16] <EriC^^> gjo: try to login using the guest account
[01:16] <Triple1Truth> hello
[01:17] <gjo> logging in with guest session now
[01:17] <gjo> i see background
[01:17] <reisio> Triple1Truth: hi
[01:19] <EriC^^> gjo: so it's the same?
[01:19] <gjo> yes
[01:19] <gjo> control-alt-t does not start  terminal window
[01:20] <Triple1Truth> #dingux
[01:20] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, are you using unity?
[01:20] <gjo> control-alt-f1 works but get msg about DISPLAY not set
[01:20] <gjo> yes, trying to use unity
[01:20] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <gjo> apt-get running now
[01:21] <Michael_> Hi. I'm working on manually starting the network on Ubuntu 12.04 (getting rid of NetworkManager). If somebody already knows how to do that and is willing to share his knowledge, then I'd be grateful for help.
[01:22] <gjo> setting up ubuntu-desktop ... complete
[01:22] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, try to login
[01:22] <zykotick9> Michael_: /etc/network/interfaces is your friend
[01:22] <Michael_> zykotick9: but it's not sufficient.
[01:23] <daftykins> Michael_: how do you figure?
[01:24] <nownot> looking for something to run on my server that will allow me to stream porn to my ipad using live video live bitrate streaming converstion stuff.
[01:24] <FilthyMacNasty> videowhisper and red5
[01:24] <nownot> plex works good but i can hide folders
[01:25] <sacarlson> Michael_ also to shutdown network-manager has been tricky at times  with service network-manager -stop ;
[01:25] <Michael_> daftykins: Once I tried that with help of people in this forum. I can't exclude that something was done wrong. For the time being I am killing the processes in order to see which are actually responsible for networking. Perhaps I will examine the source codes later.
[01:25] <Michael_> sacarlson: I want to have networking starting automatically without NetworkManager, that's the whole point.
[01:25] <Michael_> automatically at boot, of course.
[01:25] <daftykins> Michael_: may i suggest that it'd make a lot more sense to share the config file with us so we can see if it was made wrong? also you don't volunteer any info as to why it went wrong?
[01:26] <sacarlson> Michael_ you don't need network-manager to autostart  networks  that can still be done in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:27] <Michael_> I have DHCP/NAT. I will share this configuration, where's this page where I should paste the links?
[01:27] <Michael_> As to why it went wrong, I don't exactly remember.
[01:27] <sacarlson> Michael_ to override auto you can use ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 ;   or setup scripts to change things after boot
[01:29] <daftykins> !paste | Michael_
[01:29] <gjo> restarted pc ... logged on ... System program problem discovered
[01:29] <Michael_> aha, but why it went wrong, the point is that I need authorization, but I don't want to have X-es running, I want to start networking in purely console environment, I didn't know how to do that, I tried to call NetworkManager applets from fluxbox to be nearer the approach, but it was of no use
[01:29] <sacarlson> Michael_ if you want a full example you can look at my software that is published https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage  that set everything with no network-manager
[01:30] <EriC^^> gjo: do the icons appear?
[01:30] <gjo> appears to be same issue.  no icons or windows
[01:30] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, type lspci -v | grep VGA
[01:30] <sacarlson> Michael_ my software is also fully tested in ubuntu-server edition
[01:30] <Michael_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740277/
[01:31] <gjo> VGA compatible controller   AMD/ATI  turks radeon hd 6670
[01:32] <gjo> (prog-if 00
[01:32] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, type sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[01:32] <Triple1Truth> Will a geforce gt 640 hold up in ubuntu? im a gamer, but i will upgrade the gpu later i just want to know if it will really be compatible
[01:33] <daftykins> MichaelC: yes that's a terrible and incomplete config
[01:33] <Triple1Truth> the amd radeon hd 7660d cant run half the xubuntu wine games due to compatiblity
[01:33] <gjo> driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
[01:34] <Michael_> accidentally killed quassel
[01:34] <daftykins> MichaelC: sorry bad highlight
[01:34] <EriC^^> gjo: try to install the open source driver
[01:34] <TheRoaringGirl> hello
[01:34] <daftykins> Michael_: bad config, incomplete too. here's my suggestion - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740291/
[01:35] <EriC^^> !find fglrx
[01:35] <gjo> ok, how?
[01:35] <Michael_> daftykins: this config's been made with Ubuntu. And it works.
[01:35] <TheRoaringGirl> I need som help with setting up the audio
[01:35] <EriC^^> gjo: remove the fglrx one first
[01:35] <daftykins> Michael_: this'll still be lacking DNS too, so you would need resolvconf removed and to hardcode DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:35] <EriC^^> gjo: type dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[01:35] <Michael_> daftykins: will the "static" configuration work?  My IP's assigned by DHCP
[01:36] <gjo> i see several lines after that
[01:36] <daftykins> Michael_: you would not be online with what's in that file, there's not enough there. so something else weird must be going on with your config. i think network manager is still working in your seutp
[01:36] <EriC^^> gjo: anything that stands out? do they all start with fglrx?
[01:36] <Triple1Truth> If someone named Atrius ever joins any server, stay away from him
[01:37] <Michael_> daftykins: Of course it's working, I said that I'm working on disabling it, not that I'm done with this work.
[01:37] <gjo> fglrx fglrx-amdcccle -core -updates -updates-core
[01:37] <daftykins> Michael_: no that is not a complete config :)
[01:37] <gjo> 5 lines
[01:38] <Michael_> daftykins: I don't understand you. I don't know if it's complete or not. The config's just like that and networking works (with NetworkManager).
[01:38] <Michael_> daftykins: and I didn't create it.
[01:38] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[01:38] <sacarlson> michael_ first error:  you didn't add auto eth0:0  to autostart network
[01:38] <daftykins> Michael_: yeah i'm not quite following you either. can you pastebin "ifconfig -a" ?
[01:39] <sacarlson> Michael_ next I'm not sure why you are using eth0:0 as a device as that's virtual but I guess that's optional but I think you still need to bring up the real one before a virtual can be added.
[01:39] <Michael_> Hey. *I didn't change the configuration yet*.
[01:40] <Michael_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8740316/
[01:40] <Michael_> brb
[01:40] <gjo> ok, removing fglrx code now
[01:40] <sacarlson> Michael_ next: you don't have a gateway setting in your network. unless you don't plan to  have wan access and you have no other subnets, you will need one.  see here for an example http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[01:41] <daftykins> sacarlson: please don't jump in on something i'm already working on. you'll just confuse the user.
[01:41] <daftykins> pay more attention to the channel's flow.
[01:41] <gjo> time to reboot?
[01:41] <gjo> saw update-initramfs...
[01:42] <sacarlson> daftykins: normaly when I see facts that come from two sources and they somewhat match that is a plus not a minus
[01:42] <daftykins> sacarlson: you're treading on my toes.
[01:43] <EriC^^> gjo: ok
[01:45] <toan__> lasdfq
[01:45] <sacarlson> daftykins: also if you see me put out data that is incorrect I will be glad to researh it and verify if I am right or wrong as that's how I learn
[01:45] <daftykins> Michael_: so eth0 isn't even your active interface
[01:46] <gac> sacarlson: i think you'd be better researching it on your own system instead of giving the instructions to someone else and potentially breaking their box ;)
[01:46] <noark> hello evryone
[01:47] <[Saint_]> sacarlson: I got similar treatment earlier - its best to just go with it.
[01:47] <[Saint_]> Smile and nod politely.
[01:47] <noark> i ask
[01:47] <[Saint_]> Let them have their fun.
[01:47] <daftykins> gac +1
[01:49] <EriC^^> gjo: type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[01:49] <[Saint_]> This channel should operate on a ticket system then. Take a number when you enter, then when your number is call3ed, precisely ONE person can assist you. No more, no less. Else the entire world breaks.
[01:50] <[Saint_]> If that seems ridiculous...its because it is.
[01:50] <gjo> reboot/ logged on/ no icons/ window "sorry ubuntu 14.10 as experienced an internal error"
[01:51] <gjo> oh, did i reboot too soon?
[01:51] <EriC^^> gjo: did you install xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[01:51] <gjo> i do see show details button now.
[01:51] <gjo> no, not yet
[01:52] <Michael_> daftykins, sacarlson: I'm not really following two of you. As far as I know NetworkManager calls wpa_supplicant and it's where the problem must be resolved. I'm gonna be careful cause once I uninstalled NetoworkManager and there was no way to have it back and running. For the time being I'm gonna kill almost all pids , see which ones relate to networking, then examining their source code and see what's actually going there. I will be then
[01:52] <Michael_> able to start it by hand. You're speaking something about my configuration being incomplete, but I didn't even touch it, can you explain what you exactly mean?
[01:53] <BlackDalek> How do I stop cached version of video clip being inserted into Impress slide?
[01:53] <gjo> installed xserver-xorg-video-ati ... xserver-xorg-video-ati is already at newest version
[01:53] <Ben64> Michael_: this is a wireless network you're trying to connect to without a network manager?
[01:53] <daftykins> Michael_: never mind, never asked if it was wireless.
[01:53] <Michael_> yes, it's wireless.
[01:54] <EriC^^> gjo: ok, what does the error say btw?
[01:54] <daftykins> Michael_: so if you want to use a static IP, use network manager to specify it, it'll be hair-tearing-out-painful to try and use the interfaces file
[01:54] <Ben64> Michael_: you should have lead with that information. wireless is not trivial to get working from cli only
[01:54] <gjo> exec path xorg
[01:55] <gjo> willing to do additional debugging work?
[01:55] <gjo> yes?
[01:55] <EriC^^> ok
[01:55] <Michael_> sorry, I got so used to it that for a moment I even forgot that there're other ways. OK, I think that for the time being I'll be better to do the job on my own. I'll share the results with you if I'm successful.
[01:56] <gjo> path  /ussr/bin/Xorg
[01:56] <gjo> Package xserver-xorg.core
[01:56] <zykotick9> Michael_: while it _is_ possible to use wireless with interfaces, personally i use wicd-curses...
[01:56] <gjo> prob type: crash
[01:56] <Michael_> I don't care if it's with interfaces or not. I wanna have it running, that's all.
[01:57] <gjo> there is much more ... not sure what is helpful
[01:57] <Ben64> Michael_: why do you want to not use network manager
[01:57] <Michael_> Ben64: because I don't know how to have it running without X-es
[01:58] <Ben64> what is X-es
[01:58] <daftykins> Michael_: you're better off booting in, let NM configure it, then drop to TTY and stop X if you must
[01:58] <EriC^^> !find xserver-xorg-core
[01:58] <Michael_> daftykins: why??
[01:58] <EriC^^> !info xserver-xorg-core
[01:59] <daftykins> Michael_: because of how bad it is to configure wireless interfaces by hand
[01:59] <daftykins> or via the interfaces file.
[01:59] <[Saint_]> Michael_: because apparently being different scares people
[01:59] <daftykins> !fud | [Saint_]
[01:59] <EriC^^> gjo: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core
[01:59] <jon1223> Would anyone be willing to help me with a 14.04 SLI issue?  I just reinstalled ubuntu, but my issue is persisting.  Every time I try to log in, I get a brief black screen, and then I get kicked back to the login page.
[02:00] <Michael_> daftykins: it must be possible. If it's possible to start it in GUI, then it must be possible to do it with cli. And the only thing which we need is the ability to read the source code, which is, thankfully, open, and I have this.
[02:00] <gjo> xserver-xorg-core 2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1
[02:00] <sacarlson> Michael_ daftykins:  oh wpa_supplicant  I have set that up without network-manager before in both scripts and in /etc/network  I'll show you the needed links to set something like that up
[02:00] <gac> FWIW, I've never used the -curses variant, but I've had good experience with the gui version of wicd
[02:00] <gac> it's not the only way, but it's almost certainly the easiest
[02:00] <gac> so if you only care about the end result...
[02:00] <daftykins> Michael_: at no point did i say it was impossible, i said it was awkward.
[02:01] <[Saint_]> Which is FUD in itself
[02:01] <[Saint_]> ...but hey.
[02:01] <sacarlson> daftykins: it's easy
[02:01] <daftykins> [Saint_]: your comments are not welcome here. take it elsewhere.
[02:01] <Michael_> sacarlson: https://github.com/sacarlson/mini-isp.debpackage ?
[02:01] <[Saint_]> Right. Because trying to railroad someone into your way of thinking is /so/ much better.
[02:01] <[Saint_]> Jesus.
[02:02] <daftykins> sacarlson: stop highlighting me please
[02:02] <Ben64> [Saint_]: stop with the nonsense comments in this channel
[02:02] <daftykins> [Saint_]: i don't see you helping so keep it to yourself thanks.
[02:03] <gjo> 1 reinstalled
[02:03] <EriC^^> gjo: try to logout and log back in
[02:04] <gjo> logging in again
[02:05] <gjo> no icons
[02:05] <gjo> can see background image now
[02:05] <gjo> able to right click on background now
[02:06] <gjo> logout ... i need to control-alt-backspace for that
[02:06] <sacarlson> michael_  mini-isp is just an example setup of a network setup that doesn't use network-manager  that can run on a server or full desktop.  but your complications with wifi don't apply to that
[02:08] <jon1223> Wait, i'm a moron, nevermind about my question.  pebkac.
[02:08] <[Saint_]> sacarlson: He bailed.
[02:08] <sacarlson> [Saint_]: yes noted thanks
[02:09] <EriC^^> gjo: does the system error still appear?
[02:09] <gjo> restarted ... system error not seen ... rebooting now
[02:10] <gjo> did not see any icons, either
[02:10] <EriC^^> gjo: try the guest account
[02:11] <jwash> hi everyone i'm trying to make a script to configure my system after i boot from a cd. changing the audio output is one of my tasks. i can do it via the pulseaudio gui, but i want to do it via command line. here is a before and after of my 'pactl list short sinks' http://apaste.info/4pF . how do i write the command correctly, this command generates an error saying failed to set sink to port ... 'pacmd set-sink-port 2 hdmi-stereo'
[02:11] <gjo> sigh... time for new graphics card?  waiting for reboot to complete
[02:12] <FilthyMacNasty> what is the last thing it says before it hangs on reboot?
[02:13] <EriC^^> gjo: i think it's a software issue
[02:13] <gjo> reboot spontaneously restarted ....
[02:13] <FilthyMacNasty> could add acpi=off to grub
[02:15] <gjo> logging on now
[02:16] <EriC^^> gjo: ok
[02:16] <gjo> logged on ... no icons ... no sys error msgs
[02:23] <gjo> brb
[02:26] <Allure_Love>  /msg NickServ identify asd!@#$ zz1253649236@gmail.com
[02:27] <sarthor> using ubuntu, how to enable "sendto" option in right click menu? HELP. nautilus sendto pakage installed but no "sendto" option.
[02:27] <sarthor>  
[02:27] <Ben64> Allure_Love: you should change your password now
[02:27] <Allure_Love> thank you i submit wrong
[02:28] <think> Split log off now
[02:36] <Velocd> Anyone here using blackbuntu?
[02:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[02:37] <Ben64> Velocd: probably not, and it isn't supported here
[02:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> what is the best bandwith-consious way to mount a directory on a remote computer to some folder?
[02:38] <Velocd> Just checking
[02:39] <Ben64> MDTech-us_MAN: whichever you like, nfs, sshfs, samba
[02:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> is there a "preffered" way?
[02:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am mainly worried about bandwith here
[02:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> so it would be nice if it compresses stuff before sending
[02:41] <daftykins> i think you mean throughput, not bandwidth
[02:41] <daftykins> and why does it matter so?
[02:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> one of the VPS that will have a bandwidth limit
[02:41] <kahtahs_> does Ubiquity in trusty put the bootloader automatically in the mbr when one manual partitions or should one explicitly leave space unallocated in the beginning?
[02:41] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: sorry I've never really compared bandwidth much.  I've used ssh and samba that seem to be about the same
[02:41] <daftykins> get a better allowance on that VPS
[02:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am planning to move away from that VPS company entirely
[02:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> they are too expencive
[02:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> and they have service interruptions
[02:42] <Ben64> MDTech-us_MAN: if you want stuff compressed you can do that over a compressed ssh session
[02:43] <Ben64> not going to have much of an effect on most files though
[02:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> why?
[02:43] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: I just prefer ssh as it provides easy access to any point of a system
[02:43] <Ben64> most stuff is already about as small as it can get
[02:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> hmm ok
[02:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> is there a guide or someother literature where I can learn about mounting a directory over compressed SSh
[02:44] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: ya like ben64 states most is already compressed like video is compressed
[02:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> text can be compressed
[02:45] <Ben64> it really isn't going to be worth the trouble and cpu time to do that
[02:45] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: ya but text is normaly already small compared to bw
[02:45] <linus_s> Hello
[02:45] <linus_s> Who here is using ubuntu in a windows VM box?
[02:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> true.....
[02:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> me!
[02:45] <linus_s> Nice
[02:45] <linus_s> are you using VMware?
[02:46] <MDTech-us_MAN> on some of my pcs yes
[02:46] <sacarlson> linus_s: sorry I use it the other way windows in vm box on linux host
[02:46] <MDTech-us_MAN> the rest have vbox
[02:46] <linus_s> do u know how I can succesfully and easily access my windows drive partitions?
[02:46] <linus_s> for example I want to try out some linux photo management software
[02:46] <Avic> hello, i have installed lxde in ubuntu  that is in a server, if great, but i noticed that i can't copy/paste from the window of the server to my pc and from the lxde to my pc :-((( isthere a way to make this happen ...
[02:46] <Ben64> linus_s: are you using vmware
[02:46] <linus_s> I need it to detect my other drives
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> first install the tools
[02:47] <linus_s> yes I am on VMware workstation
[02:47] <Ben64> linus_s: then you'll need to check the vmware documentation
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> I know
[02:47] <linus_s> ok I'll check out the tools
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> the tools will help alot with all stuff
[02:48] <sacarlson> linus_s: oh vmware I never tried but on virtual box it's cool with the added guest extra package you can share bettween host any directory and cut and paist is integrated
[02:48] <Avic> all the work customizing the desktop unviornment... and cant copy paste...
[02:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> they sacarlson, its the same for vmware
[02:48] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: cool but virtualbox is free and vmware is $$
[02:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> true
[02:49] <sacarlson> I be pooe boy
[02:49] <Ben64> Avic: get a remote desktop client that supports that
[02:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> I bout ESX
[02:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> *bought
[02:49] <linus_s> MDTech-us_Man just to clarify
[02:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> yes
[02:49] <linus_s> do you remember if it was tools installed INSIDE of the linux VM or outside in my windows OS?
[02:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> tools are ofcourse installed on the guest OS
[02:49] <linus_s> ok just checking
[02:49] <linus_s> thanks again
[02:50] <Avic> vnc viewer... dont suport it...
[02:50] <after_r> I have this problem where sometimes my mouse wheel scroll event is ignored for the first "click" ... like when switch from firefox to another app, and switch back to firefox, the first mouse wheel click is ignored??
[02:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> no problemo
[02:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> he left...
[02:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> back to my question
[02:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> what is the best and easiest way and most efficient resource wise
[02:51] <Ben64> rsync
[02:51] <daftykins> i think you should just get a decent VPS
[02:52] <after_r> it seems the problem is not only with firefox but with other apps like nautilious
[02:52] <sacarlson> MDTech-us_MAN: oh yes rsync that would be best if  you have parts already on the other side
[02:52] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: tar -cJf foo.tar, then copy it over
[02:52] <reisio> well, foo.tar.xz :p
[02:52] <reisio> or tar -czf foo.tar.gz for not quite so nightmareish a time compressing
[02:54] <after_r> anyone? i will just post in the forums
[02:54] <reisio> ?
[02:55] <after_r> I have this problem where sometimes my mouse wheel scroll event is ignored for the first "click" ... like when switch from app to another app, and switch back to app, the first mouse wheel click is ignored??
[02:55] <sacarlson> after_r: I don't use that center mouse wheel botton so never missed it
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> could the first wheel click be giving the window focus?
[02:56] <sacarlson> after_r: oh the scrool,  well then I just keep spinning it until it moves
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> not on my machine
[02:56] <after_r> :/
[02:59] <Avic> something was wrong somehow, i restarted ans now its funcional :-D love lxde... :_DDD
[02:59] <Avic> gn
[03:00] <dale_> hi, how do I use clamTk to scan folders in folders as well as files in folders?
[03:00] <SchrodingersScat> dale_: check the manual, -r should be recursive, ie directories of directories
[03:01] <sacarlson> dale_: I would think that would be the default recursive
[03:01] <dale_> thanks
[03:01] <sacarlson> SchrodingersScat: darn you beet me ha ha
[03:03] <SchrodingersScat> sacarlson: also, that doesn't seem to be default
[03:03] <igoryonya_> hello, why, when I do sudo ifup p6p1, I get: Ignoring unknown interface p6p1=p6p1.
[03:04] <fantumcoidex> hey anyone know of  a way to get feagrouter to install
[03:04] <Ben64> igoryonya_: what are you trying to do
[03:04] <sacarlson> SchrodingersScat: see bad info from me AGAIN.  lucky I said I would think, but I didn't think
[03:05] <igoryonya_> Bend64, bring up the interface p6p1 and bring it down, when I need it, using ifdown
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> sacarlson: you can test, I made a /tmp/test and then populated it with empty files, including directories with empty files.  clamscan seems to go at least one directory deep if you glob with *
[03:08] <Ben64> igoryonya_: well it seems you don't have a p6p1 interface
[03:08] <sacarlson> SchrodingersScat: I am confident and trust you are correct
[03:08] <Michael_> It's me again, thank you for your help, I've managed to set up console networking with wicd-curses, it's awesome ! :)
[03:09] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: what did they do change your ifconfig's
[03:09] <igoryonya_> Ben64, but it shows up in 'lshw' in network section, also in 'ifconfig -a' and in 'ip addr'
[03:10] <sacarlson> Michael_ I didn't even know there was a wicd-curses  sounds cool
[03:10] <sacarlson> Michael_ does it save after reboot?
[03:10] <Michael_> sacarlson: saved me debugging at least :)
[03:10] <sacarlson> Michael_ well lucky you didn't listen to me then it would have taken longer
[03:11] <Michael_> sacarlson: yes, I checked that. Just it is necessary to service network-manager down. And you have to configure your wireless and save the password in this program, otherwise it won't run.
[03:11] <igoryonya_> sacarlson, because, since, in ubuntu 14.04, (service or /etc/init.d/) networking (stop|start|restart) stopped working, I have to resort to using ifdown -a; ifup -a, but p6p1 shows that error, when I try to bring it up.
[03:11] <sacarlson> Michael_ this is what my plan was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136  would have been way more complicated
[03:12] <Michael_> (by configuring your wireless I mean that you just have to press C - which is key for configuration in wicd, and then you type the password in the appropriate field, at least it worked for me).
[03:13] <Mightcould3> hello everyone, offtopic channel seems dead :(
[03:13] <Michael_> sacarlson: I once tried that and it worked on Slackware but it didn't want to work on Ubuntu. I don't know why. Perhaps I was doing something wrong.
[03:13] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: oh does sudo ifconfig p6p1 up ; bring it up then?
[03:14] <sacarlson> Michael_ I have used that method with success but later just setup scripts to do it so I didn't have to make permanent changes to my system as wifi was always changing
[03:15] <sacarlson> Michael_ but next time I need it I will look at your wicd method as I've always liked there wicd gui
[03:15] <Michael_> sacarlson: do you have a link to this script? I like reading such things, so if you're willing to share...
[03:15] <igoryonya_> sacarlson, it does, so, but then is there a way to do a it by a wildcard to restart all interfaces, similar to ifdown -a; ifup -a, I don't want to restart a server every time I change some network config.
[03:16] <sacarlson> Michael_ I think it's in my older mini-isp files on github if you want to take a look at them
[03:16] <Michael_> sacarlson: thanks
[03:17] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: I don't know,  I've never done it that way,  again I just wrote scripts to bring all the nics up and set them as needed
[03:18] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: ifup and ifdown was developed after I learned stuf.  I did try ifup ifdown but it conflicted with my old ways so held back on using them
[03:18] <ubuntuaddicted> test
[03:19] <kahtahs_> fdisk -l /dev/sda shows three partitions. even tho i only configured 2 in ubiquity. unknown new partition is the same size swap and positioned just before swap but id 5 not 82
[03:19] <kahtahs_> s/same size swap/same size as swap
[03:19] <igoryonya_> maybe anyone knows,  why ifup doesn't work for that interface, it works for others.
[03:19] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: I think it's best to work on using ifup ifdown correctly if you don't have conflicts like me
[03:19] <morsing> Hey guys, so - my system hangs on login and I am now forced to use "tty"? to do anything. I am pretty sure the problem is that I installed the ati-graphics thing from the software center, can anybody help me fix this? I am on 14.10
[03:20] <lagbox> you installed the fglrx drivers ?
[03:20] <ubuntuaddicted> im trying to join another channel but it says can't join i need to be idetified by services
[03:20] <morsing> @lagbox Yeah
[03:20] <lagbox> ubuntuaddicted, you need to register your nickname more than likely
[03:20] <ubuntuaddicted> lagbox, my nickname has been registered for forever
[03:21] <ubuntuaddicted> lagbox, how do i register again? guess i'll try again
[03:21] <lagbox>  /m nickserv help
[03:21] <lagbox> says it isn't registered
[03:22] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: there is also this newer method to bring up devices ip link set dev eth0 up
[03:22] <lagbox> they do get released if you dont identify for awhile
[03:22] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: oh it could also be some need to edit preup scripts
[03:22] <morsing> I am thinking I can just remove the package, but i am a bit hindered when only using tty to do stuff. (googling is a bit difficult)
[03:24] <lagbox> ill see if i can get you the packages you need to reinstall
[03:24] <igoryonya_> sacarlson, I need a wildcard method, that will bring up or down all cards at once, without listing all interfaces individually, like ifup -a or ifdown -a does or mount -a for disks, for example.
[03:25] <morsing> I might also have forgot to remove the old ones, which I assume probably caused some problems too. But thanks!
[03:25] <igoryonya_> as it does while starting the computer
[03:25] <lagbox> morsing, seems like a common issue
[03:25] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: yes and those should work if /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart  is setup correctly
[03:26] <morsing> oh okay.
[03:26] <lagbox> you can try purging fglrx and reinstalling it ... but i imagine you want to go to the open source drivers ?
[03:27] <edition> is there a stable graphics driver for the AMD/ATI cards?
[03:27] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: maybe the scripts aren't setup to support that strange name of your device.  you will have to look at both scripts for up and down
[03:27] <lagbox> edition, depending upon the card and what features you need there are open source drivers and proprietary drivers
[03:27] <morsing> Yeah, that will be fine now. I just couldn't get "direct rendering" when try to play games, so I wanted to try another driver.
[03:27] <morsing> I am on HD4890
[03:28] <lagbox> morsing, so you had a desktop before with fglrx working ?
[03:28] <edition> lagbox, OpenGL applications like flightgear have serious problems. The 'generic' driver isn't suitable for gaming.
[03:28] <igoryonya_> sacarlson, so ifup looks in /etc/network/if-up.d/ folder for bringing up interfaces?
[03:28] <edition> lagox: Would the non-free drivers be a better option?
[03:28] <morsing> I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 using the built in thing, but suddenly steam complained about direct rendering.
[03:29] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: yes and the script looks at all process that need to use nets when it does connect
[03:30] <lagbox> honestly i can't stand fglrx
[03:30] <lagbox> i think its a pile of crap
[03:30] <lagbox> but besides that ... you may need to use them depending upon the card
[03:30] <lagbox> and will probably have better results than me
[03:30] <morsing> How do i purge it? dpkg? - but the oss drivers worked fine before, so I will just go back to those.
[03:31] <lagbox> morsing, you can purge fglrx then you would have to reinstall xorg stuff and libmesa and that stuff
[03:31] <igoryonya_> lagbox, edition, opensource drivers for ati cards are to slow yet, they are still playing catch up to be feature complete as the proprietary drivers, so no time for speed optimization yet. so, for now, have to use proprietary drivers, if looking for performance.
[03:31] <edition> thanks
[03:31] <igoryonya_> edition, on amd.com site, you can download the ati drivers for linux.
[03:31] <lagbox> i have always had better results with the open source drivers
[03:31] <lagbox> but then again i dont play games
[03:32] <edition> well its more to do with graphics performance.
[03:32] <edition> but gaming is important.
[03:32] <igoryonya_> lagbox, even gnome/unity and video players lag, when I tried to use opensource
[03:32] <lagbox> not for me
[03:32] <lagbox> its the opposite
[03:32] <lagbox> fglrx is laggy
[03:33] <lagbox> open source drivers were smooth as silk
[03:33] <morsing> @lagbox, i am pretty sure the mesa drivers are still there. Which might be the cause of my problems, unless fglrx uninstalled them. But they might have conflicted and now it is all fucked?
[03:34] <lagbox> morsing, its possible
[03:34] <igoryonya_> sacarlson, thank you, I will look inside those files.
[03:35] <sacarlson> igoryonya_: ok good luck and have fun
[03:35] <morsing> I think i will just try removing the fglrx drivers and see what happen, can't be worse than tty. Can you help me with the command?
[03:36] <lagbox> morsing, yea i will find it ... just recovering from a graphical glitch that likes to lock up unity / compiz / chrome with these drivers
[03:36] <morsing> @lagbox Alright, thanks a lot.
[03:37] <igoryonya_> morsing, you might also have some nvidia drivers installed that conflict with ati drivers, I've had that problem before. Checked and uninstalled nvidia drivers and it started working. The reason, because I had an nvidia card before, the drivers left over.
[03:38] <lagbox> morsing, did you see a message like this   Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0  ?
[03:38] <morsing> Can't remember, but it said some errors.
[03:39] <morsing> Can i find them again somewhere?
[03:39] <sergio-br2> Is this updated ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2
[03:39] <sergio-br2> "Default Build Options for Lucid"
[03:41] <bray90820> Is there a version of ubuntu for the raspberry pi
[03:41] <daftykins> bray90820: no
[03:41] <bray90820> :(
[03:42] <bray90820> Any sort of debian for it
[03:42] <daftykins> bray90820: this is not #debian
[03:42] <daftykins> but yes i believe it's called raspbian
[03:43] <bray90820> Cool
[03:43] <bray90820> Thanks
[03:43] <xangua> bray90820: there are several PC on stick that comes with ubuntu if that is what you are looking for
[03:43] <igoryonya_> bray90820, I think you can install ubuntu on rasberry pi, if you install wayland instead of xorg., I might be wrong.
[03:44] <bray90820> I was actually gonna turn my raspberry pi into a tablet
[03:48] <somsip> igoryonya_: there is no version of ubuntu that runs on a pi. It's to do with the instruction set supported by the pi (arm6) and that required by arm ports of ubuntu (arm7) IIRC
[03:54] <igoryonya_> somsip, what about the phone version of ubuntu?
[03:55] <[Saint_]> somsip: that's plainly untrue
[03:56] <[Saint_]> If you go back far enough, of course you can run Ubuntu on a pi.
[03:56] <[Saint_]> FWIW, I'm taking issue with the "no version" statement.
[03:56] <[Saint_]> As that is demonstrably untrue.
[03:57] <[Saint_]> No /current/ version, sure. I'll accept that.
[03:57] <[Saint_]> No version /period/, is quite wrong.
[03:57] <somsip> [Saint_]: give me one link
[03:58] <somsip> igoryonya_: it's a phone version, not a pi version
[03:58] <[Saint_]> somsip: jaunty and karmic will run on a pi.
[03:59] <[Saint_]> In theory.
[03:59] <[Saint_]> Ubuntu /did/ support ARM not so long ago.
[03:59] <[Saint_]> Ubuntu pissed and moaned about the raspberrypi and asked them to specifically stop staing it had compatibility.
[03:59] <[Saint_]> It was hilarious.
[04:00] <somsip> [Saint_]: so that's 9.1 which has been EOL for..how long? I disagree that is a solution.
[04:00] <[Saint_]> It still invalidates your claim, does it not?
[04:00] <[Saint_]> Saying otherwise is demonstrably untrue.
[04:00] <somsip> [Saint_]: but next time I say this to anyone here, I will add 'no current and supported version' - you're right on that
[04:03] <minashokry> hi everyone, after upgrading to 14.10 none of apps is able to use the laptop webcam, any clues where to start debugging or what to do?
[04:03] <daftykins> [Saint_]: i think you're failing to see the wood for the trees. the channel doesn't support EOL releases so your point is moot.
[04:03] <sacarlson> you can install ubuntu on rasbarry pi if you want to compile a system for arm6, and that can be done.  but easier to just port an app to debian and compile just your app if not already suported on debian
[04:04] <[Saint_]> daftykins: I think you're just being assinine, the point is valid.
[04:05] <[Saint_]> The statement "no version of Ubuntu for raspberrypi" is wrong. Period.
[04:06] <daftykins> [Saint_]: there's no need to get so personally attacking in here. this is a friendly channel meant to connect volunteers with people that have questions. rather than second guessing other volunteers, perhaps you could focus on actually helping people?
[04:06] <sacarlson> [Saint_]: I think there are just no supported binarry repository at this time, but you can compile it and we will support a none EOL compiled on rasberry pi
[04:07] <[Saint_]> So, correcting misinformation isn't helping people?
[04:07] <[Saint_]> OP now knows it is indeed possible.
[04:07] <[Saint_]> If that's not a positive....
[04:08] <daftykins> *sigh*
[04:08] <[Saint_]> Yeah, you do that.
[04:08] <daftykins> you're not helping :) good night.
[04:09] <edition> the acpi thermal sensor is reporting 91 Degrees!
[04:09] <edition> *my
[04:09] <[Saint_]> And your nitpicking is incredibly productive and doesn't make you seem like a jerk at all.
[04:09] <[Saint_]> Nope.
[04:09] <sacarlson> well hury up ask me your last questions as It's almost time to go fly my Phantom II quad copter with it's new fpv video tx and fatshark googles
[04:09] <edition> !op | [Saint_]
[04:10] <cfhowlett> [Saint_], drop the attitude please.  no attacks needed and such behavior violates community standards
[04:10] <edition> how can I cool down the CPU?
[04:10] <reisio> edition: what for
[04:10] <sacarlson> edition: put a fan on it
[04:10] <lagbox> clock it down
[04:10] <cfhowlett> edition, clean it
[04:10] <edition> yep. the fans going flat out.
[04:11] <lagbox> laptop ?
[04:11] <edition> yes
[04:11] <cfhowlett> edition, don't let children/smokers/animals near it and clean your vents.
[04:11] <sacarlson> edition: opps BIGGER fan
[04:11] <lagbox> amd/ati ?
[04:11] <reisio> as long as it isn't powering off, it's probably fine
[04:11] <edition> yes.
[04:11] <lagbox> haha
[04:11] <edition> that was a dangerous temperature.
[04:12] <edition> it was 93 degrees for a short time.
[04:12] <lagbox> yea that is a little high
[04:12] <lagbox> 93 degC
[04:12] <cfhowlett> edition, C or F
[04:12] <edition> C
[04:12] <lagbox> C
[04:12] <cfhowlett> edition, smokin!
[04:12] <lagbox> that is shutdown time
[04:12] <cfhowlett> edition, I would have expected it to shutdown long before it got that hot ...
[04:13] <edition> can I check for damage?
[04:13] <lickalott> gents, for some reason I can't map my wifes laptop to any of my NFS shares and I can't figure out what it is that's preventing it.
[04:13] <[Saint_]> ~100C is a usual thermal shutdown temp for modern CPUs.
[04:13] <lickalott> my account works like a champ.
[04:13] <[Saint_]> ~95C thermal limiting kicks in.
[04:13] <cfhowlett> edition, smell of smoke?
[04:13] <lickalott> she's coming from a windows machine btw
[04:13] <lagbox> edition, honestly i would shut it down
[04:13] <edition> not really, unusually :/
[04:13] <sacarlson> edition: that thermocopler can't be correct.  we didn't even make military stuf run at 93C  55C max maybe 60C
[04:13] <lagbox> sacarlson, mine registers those temps as well
[04:14] <minashokry> hi everyone, after upgrading to 14.10 none of apps is able to use the laptop webcam, any clues where to start debugging or what to do?
[04:14] <edition> its dropped to 58 degrees
[04:14] <sacarlson> lagbox: what's the command to see it?
[04:14] <lagbox> mine is 51 C at the moment
[04:14] <edition> anyway. How can i assess the damage?
[04:14] <lagbox> if i run it full with full graphics it will hit 90C
[04:14] <edition> (to my laptop cpu)
[04:15] <lagbox> probably not really easily
[04:15] <[Saint_]> edition: assuming the reported temperature is correct, its largely capable of looking after itself. Unless you've diabled thermal limiting/shutdown at a BIOS level.
[04:15] <lagbox> to me its more about heat damage over time at that rate
[04:15] <[Saint_]> It'll take care of itself if it thinks its in danger.
[04:16] <lagbox> plus there are really fun things with ATI and these drivers and fans
[04:16] <edition> but can I check if all the flags/features are still working?
[04:16] <lagbox> edition, i suppose you can check the cpu in proc
[04:16] <edition> thanks
[04:16] <sacarlson> lickalott: paistbin /etc/exports   to start and what is being used on the client side?  fstab ?
[04:16] <sacarlson> lickalott: and I assume the needed packages are installed
[04:17] <edition> is it possible to run the fan at a constant high speed?
[04:17] <lagbox> if you really wanted to
[04:17] <edition> how
[04:17] <lagbox> there are all kinds of odd flags you can pass at boot to the kernel depending upon which drivers you are using
[04:18] <lagbox> and there are some known issues with fans and having to set boot settings
[04:18] <edition> what sort of odd flags?
[04:18] <lagbox> you would have to google it
[04:18] <[Saint_]> lm-sensors and fancontrol can do it.
[04:18] <lagbox> you have to be careful
[04:18] <[Saint_]> it'll be _loud_ though.
[04:18] <lagbox> dont just play around
[04:18] <edition> :)
[04:18] <lagbox> some of those will disable the fan
[04:18] <edition> \o/
[04:18] <edition> fire hazard.
[04:19] <lagbox> if there is software that will control that i would use that before playing with boot params
[04:19] <[Saint_]> install lm-sensors and run 'sensors' to get a wider view of what's ahppening with fan speed, C|GPU temp, chassis temp, disk temp, etc.
[04:20] <[Saint_]> its also your freind, and required, for fancontrol.
[04:20] <[Saint_]> But there's a great many ways to do this.
[04:20] <lickalott> sacarlson, yes.  My account works fine (from anywhere)
[04:21] <lagbox> plus the computer should be able to regulate the fan itself
[04:21] <lagbox> more than likely you probably need to blow out the vents and make sure the laptop isn't directly on a surface
[04:22] <[Saint_]> Placement of the box can make a huge difference as well.
[04:22] <[Saint_]> If its just sucking the hot air its blowing out back in, you're gonna have a bad time.
[04:22] <lagbox> plus there is actually a different between notebooks and laptops
[04:22] <lagbox> difference
[04:22] <lickalott> sacarlson, http://paste2.org/GPy6sMEF
[04:22] <edition> I blame HP.
[04:23] <lickalott> you want FSTAB also?
[04:23] <lickalott> btw:  thanks for taking the time
[04:23] <[Saint_]> Really? I thought notbook/laptop was largely interchangeable, and netbook was the one that should be differentiated against?
[04:23] <[Saint_]> But I suppose the usage varies by locality.
[04:23] <JordanJ2> Hi all, All my menu's text seemed to have turned black, can I reset this to white text?
[04:24] <lagbox> some are not made to be directly put on surfaces that they can't easily vent
[04:24] <cfhowlett> JordanJ2, settings > appearance
[04:24] <reisio> the only netbooks anyone sells anymore are chromebooks, and they don't call them netbooks
[04:24] <reisio> all some kind of laptop
[04:24] <lagbox> not netbook
[04:25] <edition> ok. Thanks for the help everyone. I'll have to shutdown the system for a while...
[04:25] <lagbox> i would recommend blowing out the vents
[04:26] <edition> lagbox: continue this conversation at #ubuntu-chat?
[04:26] <JordanJ2> cfhowlett: Where in there?
[04:26] <[Saint_]> Clean her out, sure. But its largely capable of looking after itself if you've not specifically disabled thermal limiting.
[04:26] <lagbox> sure
[04:26] <cfhowlett> JordanJ2, should be a selection of themes which = appearance.  experiement
[04:26] <cfhowlett> *experiment*
[04:27] <JordanJ2> cfhowlett: Don't see that..
[04:28] <cfhowlett> JordanJ2, might be a xubuntu thing ... I've never used unity ubuntu so I *could* be in error.  but you should have an appearance reset button somewhere.
[04:28] <JordanJ2> I have "Reset behavioural settings"
[04:29] <JordanJ2> But doesn't touch that
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> JordanJ2: appearance settings refuses to always on top, but I'm in xubuntu 14.04 if that helps you at all.
[04:31] <JordanJ2> SchrodingersScat: Fixed
[04:31] <sacarlson> lickalott: yes the fstab might help also,  I don't see anything outstandingly wrong in exports but it's been some time since I've played with nfs
[04:31] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, as am I.  he said his colors reversed so I thought it must be "appearance": ...
[04:31] <SchrodingersScat> oops, i reversed that somehow
[04:31] <lickalott> k.  wait 1 sacarlson
[04:32] <sacarlson> lickalott: also I'm already getting ready to go fly and go cook and eat breakfast so don't have much time but with that added info there should be others here that can also help
[04:32] <lickalott> http://paste2.org/ndzphtbn
[04:33] <lickalott> i ensured that the NFS client package was installed for windows.
[04:34] <sacarlson> lickalott: more on the client side is needed fstab on the client or the method used to connect to nfs from client
[04:34] <lickalott> sorry...
[04:34] <lickalott> mount -o <IP>:/media/wolverine  (for example)
[04:35] <sacarlson> lickalott: oh clients on windows,  can you test a client from a linux system?  I have no knoledge of windows setup for nfs
[04:35] <lickalott> it makes the connection fine.  Shows up under my computer, but when I double click on it from her computer it says permission denied
[04:35] <lickalott> yes sacarlson.  All my other clients work fine: With my account.
[04:35] <sacarlson> lickalott: other clients being on linux?
[04:35] <lickalott> both flavors (*nix and winblows)
[04:36] <sacarlson> lickalott: then the problem is on the windows client side so I can't help you
[04:36] <lickalott> ok.  thanks anyway!
[04:36] <lickalott> have a good flight
[04:37] <sacarlson> lickalott: thanks and a good one to you
[04:38] <[Saint_]> lickalott: its UID based, do the client names on both sides match?
[04:38] <lickalott> yes
[04:38] <[Saint_]> (recalling from hitting this issue myself a few moons ago)
[04:38] <lickalott> and same password
[04:38] <[Saint_]> Ah - well, that's my extremely short list of ideas exhausted. Sorry bud.
[04:39] <lickalott> thanks thought
[04:39] <lickalott> *though
[04:39] <lickalott> i'll keep mashing on the keys til it works.  :P
[04:40]  * [Saint_] recently discovered what a hilariously bad idea UID based external storage for multi-user machines is
[04:40] <[Saint_]> I managed to go the better part of a decade without hitting an issue, because I'm very predictable, and use largely identical setups across my machines.
[04:40] <[Saint_]> I shook that up a bit, and changed the users around, and _everything_ fell over.
[04:41] <[Saint_]> Easy to fix. But, annoying.
[04:42] <marni> hi
[04:42] <marni> Anyone there ?
[04:42] <marni> hey
[04:42] <reisio> hi
[04:43] <marni> can you help me
[04:43] <marni> ive been stuck on this simple thing all day :(
[04:43] <[Saint_]> No one can help you until you tell them what's wrong. :)
[04:43] <kalyani> hello when i am xchat it is showing there was an error loading keybinding.confg message is coming and it is not loading previous messages
[04:43] <marni> I've done a whole days work of researching how to install a program on ubuntu.. so first I downloaded python.. unpackaged it from .tar.xz now its just python-3.4.2 then I navigated to the dir in terminal.. then ran the ./configure make make test sudo make install commands which took like 10 minutes on my ultra fast broadband .. scanning all the files etc.. now thats all finished how do I open python? it seems like nothing has changed ?
[04:44] <kalyani> sorry when i am opening xchat*
[04:44] <reisio> marni: what program?
[04:44] <marni> python
[04:44] <somsip> marni: you want to install a non-standard version of python? Try the deadsnakes PPA
[04:44] <marni> ive downloaded like 4 things and done the same thing .. but i dont know how to open any of them ?
[04:44] <[Saint_]> 'python'
[04:44] <marni> i just need to know how to open a program on ubuntu haha
[04:44] <reisio> marni: what version of ubuntu?
[04:44] <marni> 14.0  i think
[04:45] <marni> the latest one
[04:45] <lagbox> 14.10 ?
[04:45] <[Saint_]> marni: open a terminal, and type 'python'
[04:45] <marni> okk
[04:45] <[Saint_]> Press Enter.
[04:45] <marni> haha that was easy
[04:45] <[Saint_]> Yep. :)
[04:45] <[Saint_]> Easy to miss, though.
[04:45] <marni> but how do i create a new python IDLE?
[04:45] <marni> yeh haha ive been looking for an answer all day
[04:46] <lagbox> ide ?
[04:46] <lkthomas> guys, is there have a way to force chmod 777 on any new directory created on specific folder ?
[04:46] <lagbox> sticky
[04:47] <marni> Like how do i create a new text editor for python
[04:47] <marni> so i can make my own script yknow /
[04:47] <lkthomas> lagbox: example ?
[04:47] <kalyani> Please help me.....when i am opening xchat it is showing error loading keybinding.confg and also when i am connecting to apertium it is not loading my previous messages
[04:47] <reisio> marni: a GUI editor?
[04:47] <marni> yehh
[04:47] <reisio> marni: gedit
[04:47] <lagbox> you can download one
[04:47] <marni> gedit?
[04:47] <lagbox> gedit is a text editor
[04:48] <marni> for python ?
[04:48] <lagbox> im sure you can get idle
[04:48] <marni> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Idle_gui.png
[04:48] <marni> like that
[04:48] <marni> i want that
[04:48] <ObrienDave> kalyani, install hexchat. xchat is not maintained
[04:48] <marni> but all i have is python in terminal -_-
[04:48] <lkthomas> lagbox: is it like chmod 1777 test ?
[04:49] <[Saint_]> marni: from the terminal 'idle python_project_name.py"
[04:49] <[Saint_]> where python_project_name is something you're supplying.
[04:49] <lagbox> idle is in the repo
[04:49] <marni> so i just enter idle python_project_name.py into terminal ?
[04:49] <marni> says syntaxerror: invalid syntax
[04:50] <marni> whats repo ? hahah
[04:50] <marni> just got ubuntu confused shitless
[04:51] <lagbox> are you in a virtual terminal or do you have a desktop at the moment ?
[04:51] <marni> im in terminal
[04:51] <[Saint_]> Hmmmm...as far as I'm aware, that /should/ work. It works here. But my setup may be slightly different.
[04:51] <marni> why cant i just double click an exe for python ?
[04:51] <[Saint_]> "idle project_name.py" will either launch project_name, or create it if it doesn't exist.
[04:51] <marni> is it like this for everything i download ?
[04:52] <SASDOE> could someone highlight me please?
[04:52] <ObrienDave> marni, exe are for windows. this is not windows
[04:52] <lagbox> which idle
[04:52] <[Saint_]> No. There's almost certainly a way to do this via a GUI, I just don't use any form of GUI, so I can't answer that.
[04:52] <lagbox> sorry ... command      which idle
[04:52] <marni> yeh i know so i have to do all this command shit for every program ?
[04:52] <lagbox> no
[04:52] <[Saint_]> No.
[04:52] <marni> :O
[04:52] <marni> im using this to learn btw
[04:53] <marni> im interested
[04:53] <marni> but i just dont get it yet
[04:53] <lagbox> is idle even installed
[04:53] <[Saint_]> What I'm saying is it almost certainly is possible, I'm just not aware of it, as I don't use a desktop environment.
[04:53] <marni> should be
[04:53] <lagbox> type        which idle
[04:53] <marni> ooh i was running script in python .. hold on
[04:53] <[Saint_]> heh.
[04:53] <marni> what do i type for idle again
[04:53] <[Saint_]> 'idle name_of_the_project_you_want_to_open.py"
[04:54] <[Saint_]> It'll be created if it doesn't exist.
[04:54] <marni> the program idle is not currently installed lol
[04:54] <marni> ill sudo install hold up
[04:54] <lagbox> which version of python
[04:54] <marni> 3.4.2
[04:55] <kalyani> ok obriendave thank you
[04:55] <[Saint_]> You could also try pressing the Winkey to open the HUD and then search "IDLE"
[04:55] <lagbox> sudo apt-get install idle-python3        and hit tab to complete it
[04:55] <marni> oooh haha idle name_of_the_project_you_want_to_open.py" is just a variable
[04:55] <marni> ok thanks it worked
[04:55] <marni> idle opened
[04:56] <marni> so ubuntu is all command based?
[04:56] <[Saint_]> No.
[04:56] <lkthomas> lagbox: sticky bit 2777 will cause all new subfolder as 777 permission ?
[04:56] <lagbox> good old sticky bits
[04:56] <marni> but the only way to open something is in terminal right ?
[04:56] <[Saint_]> No.
[04:57] <ObrienDave> marni, there are 1000's of gui programs and 1000's of cli programs available
[04:57] <marni> i dont want them id rather use terminal
[04:57] <marni> so to open python every time i have to type into terminal right ?
[04:57] <[Saint_]> No. You can create a .desktop link for it if you desire.
[04:58] <marni> how ?
[04:58] <lagbox> sorry im fighting my system locking up because of these pos fglrx drivers
[04:58] <[Saint_]> marni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[04:59] <marni> how do i download gedit ??
[04:59] <[Saint_]> It is already installed.
[04:59] <marni> oo
[04:59] <eronides> "Adobe Flash Player Settings" dialog does not respond to mouse clicks
[04:59] <[Saint_]> Open the HUD and type 'gedit'
[04:59] <marni> so when it says this
[04:59] <marni> Open your favourite text editor, like Gedit or nano, and type in (copy and paste):  [Desktop Entry] Version=x.y Name=ProgramName Comment=This is my comment Exec=/home/alex/Documents/exec.sh Icon=/home/alex/Pictures/icon.png Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility;Application;
[05:00] <marni> do i just open terminal ?
[05:00] <marni> oh right i see
[05:00] <marni> gedit is just a text editor
[05:00] <lagbox> eronides, common issue
[05:01] <[Saint_]> You will obviously need to edit the example .desktop file to suit your personal requirements
[05:01] <marni> Under program name what do i right ?
[05:01] <marni> just Python
[05:01] <[Saint_]> If you simply copy and paste the content as is, it will not work.
[05:02] <marni> i know i changed the names to my user
[05:02] <marni> and i changed program name to Python
[05:02] <marni> now do i just save ?
[05:02] <[Saint_]> The page describes the function of each entry.
[05:02] <lagbox> eronides, theres all kinds of fun issues with flash in linux
[05:03] <lagbox> i cant wait for the day flash finally just dies and gets it over with
[05:03] <lagbox> ive been waiting since the day it was released
[05:03] <[Saint_]> Slow adoption of HTML5 makes it unlikely to happen in the near future.
[05:04] <lagbox> i know
[05:04] <lagbox> it stinks
[05:04] <[Saint_]> The thing I'm really waiting for widespread adoption of is the celt/opus variable codec.
[05:04] <[Saint_]> But that's even more of a joke than HTML5 is.
[05:04] <[Saint_]> Its sad.
[05:04] <marni> path is just to the python folder ?
[05:05] <[Saint_]> The amount of network throughput that would be saved by widespread adoption of opus and HTML5 is phenominal
[05:06] <[Saint_]> You'd think carriers, ISPs, and telcos, would be jumping at the opportunity to adopt opus and HTML5
[05:06] <[Saint_]> But...nope.
[05:06] <[Saint_]> Its weird.
[05:07] <marni> [Desktop Entry] Version=3.4.2 Name=Python Comment=Scripting..for noobs Exec=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2 Icon=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2/Pc/pycon.ico Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility;Application;
[05:07] <marni> is this right
[05:07] <[Saint_]> That almost certainly isn't the executable directory of the python binary
[05:08] <[Saint_]> "which python3.4.2"
[05:08] <[Saint_]> That should give you the exact path to the executable
[05:08] <lagbox> nah they dont mind ... it lets them claim they need to raise their prices
[05:09] <marni> oh what is the executable directory, thanks
[05:09] <[Saint_]> see above.
[05:09] <[Saint_]> I already answered that for you.
[05:11] <eronides> lagbox, how?
[05:12] <lagbox> how what my friend ?
[05:13] <marni> Exec=/home/marni/Downloads/Python-3.4.2/python
[05:13] <marni> done thanks  saint !!
[05:13] <marni> cya everyone
[05:13] <lagbox> good luck
[05:13] <[Saint_]> o/
[05:14] <lagbox> eronides, what version of ubuntu ?
[05:15] <lagbox> and besides there may or may not be a solution to that problem
[05:15] <eronides> lagbox, ubuntu 14.04
[05:15] <lagbox> i will have to load my browser up again and see if i have that issue as well
[05:15] <it_> anyone here
[05:16] <lagbox> it_ nope
[05:16] <it_> m new to ubuntu.. using it live.. i wanted to know how could i customize it..
[05:20] <sacarlson> it_: there are tools to make custom iso files for ubuntu to add presinstalled packages or remove unneeded ones.  I'm not sure that's a good step for a beginner
[05:21] <sacarlson> people must think I'm a speed typist or something??
[05:21] <l0rdn1x> eh?
[05:22] <l0rdn1x> sacarlson: use 'remastersys'
[05:23] <sacarlson> l0rdn1x: ya but it_ already left the room 20 secounds after asking the question not awaiting the answer
[05:23] <sacarlson> l0rdn1x: don't you hate that?
[05:24] <l0rdn1x> sacarlson: yes
[05:24] <Sachiru> Query: For some reason, sudo apt-fast autoremove does NOT remove old kernel headers from my machine. Why is this?
[05:24] <l0rdn1x> sacarlson: they are worse in #elementaryos
[05:24] <l0rdn1x> sacarlson: they will stick around maybe 25 35 seconds
[05:25] <Sachiru> Add to that my inode count was 99%. Manually removing old headers and rebooting made that go down to 37%. What gives?
[05:25] <sacarlson> l0rdn1x: they think we are computers like google that return requests in 1.2 secounds
[05:26] <l0rdn1x> sacarlson: yeah I know what you mean lol
[05:29] <ObrienDave> and remastersys has gone bye bye afaik
[05:30] <l0rdn1x> ObrienDave: I still have remastersys
[05:30] <l0rdn1x> I will have it forever ;)
[05:30] <ObrienDave> yea, but the author quit developing it
[05:31] <l0rdn1x> Yeah I know he kept getting trolled
[05:31] <siloxid> how do I prevent "System Problem detected.  Do you want to report this problem now?" dialogs from popping up?  I get three every time I log in
[05:31] <lagbox> siloxid, well you could fix the problem, that is one way
[05:32] <lagbox> but i have a feeling as updates roll out that issue might get resolved
[05:33]  * l0rdn1x  has a sneaking suspicions that siloxid is using the unicorn lol j/k
[05:33] <siloxid> they have been popping up for six months now.  I just want the dialog to go away.
[05:33] <lagbox> look at the details and find out what is causing the problem
[05:34] <siloxid> the system isn't doing anything horrid so I don't really see a point in the nagware-style dialogs
[05:34] <lagbox> because there was a problem
[05:34] <siloxid> reminds me of the early nineties shareware trend
[05:34] <lagbox> if we dont report software problems how do the developers know there is an issue ?
[05:34] <siloxid> you report them silently without a stupid dialog popping up three times on login
[05:35] <lagbox> how about you find the problem and fix it
[05:35] <lagbox> then it will stop popping up
[05:35] <l0rdn1x> siloxid: they have to let you know when your sending a bug report or it's a privacy violation.
[05:35] <lagbox> or do something crazy like remove apport or something
[05:36] <siloxid> l0rdn1x: yes.. you have a dialog that says "report system problems" with a yes or no button.  not rocket science
[05:36] <lagbox> that is what we have
[05:36] <ObrienDave> so, send the reports. not rocket science either
[05:36] <l0rdn1x> siloxid: you have to be notified 'every' time they send data or it's a privacy violation.
[05:37] <lagbox> maybe if you sent the damn report they may have fixed it by now ???
[05:37] <siloxid> no.  you have three dialogs that pop up saying "system problem detected".  if you click on "report problem" it takes you on a wild goose chase.  not nearly the same thing
[05:37] <siloxid> l0rdn1x: no, it isn't.  take a look at how iOS handles the same thing.  and chrome. and everything else
[05:38] <lagbox> then use a mac
[05:38] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[05:38] <l0rdn1x> siloxid: just remove apport then
[05:40] <siloxid> lagbox: use a mac? are you serious?
[05:41] <lagbox> no im not .. im just done arguing with you
[05:41] <siloxid> lagbox: well that's good.  you weren't contributing anything to the conversation
[05:41] <l0rdn1x> siloxid: we told you the solutions, you can try and fix the error by looking at the details, or you can remove apport
[05:43] <fidelity> hello
[05:44] <l0rdn1x> hi
[05:58] <edition> I have a camera that requires the SE401 driver. Is the module still part of the linux kernel?
[05:59] <Ben64> probably
[05:59] <edition> where?
[06:00] <edition> I couldn't find the SE401 module.
[06:00] <Ben64> i see a se401.h
[06:02] <Shunya> Hello
[06:02] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[06:02] <Shunya> Thanks
[06:02] <edition> Ben64: where did you find the header file?
[06:03] <Shunya> In ubuntu can do like that... means... I select all my video files and can see how long it's...
[06:03] <Ben64> edition: /usr/src/...
[06:03] <edition> thanks
[06:03] <l0rdn1x> Shunya: huh?
[06:04] <Shunya> l0rdn1x, I mean i select some video file and can see it's video time length
[06:04] <ObrienDave> they want to know if there's a length column in file manager a-la windows
[06:04] <Shunya> yup
[06:05] <Shunya> i think duration is right word i mistaken
[06:05] <l0rdn1x> oh
[06:05] <lagbox> select them all ... go to properties and maybe in the additional info ?
[06:05] <ObrienDave> Shunya, length or duration is fine :)
[06:05] <edition> se401.h is empty.
[06:06] <edition> but anyway, there is no se401 library in the kernel.
[06:06] <edition> *system.
[06:06] <Shunya> thanks lagbox and ObrienDave
[06:07] <Shunya> first i need to restart my machine :)
[06:07] <lagbox> hehe i dont think properties will give that
[06:07] <l0rdn1x> nope it wont
[06:07] <l0rdn1x> lol
[06:07] <lagbox> ah was worth a shot
[06:07] <lagbox> probably need to put them all in some media gallery and have it do it
[06:08] <l0rdn1x> yep I think VLC will do it
[06:08] <ObrienDave> VLC will once it reads the file
[06:08] <l0rdn1x> Well now I am curious to find a command that does that so I probably will tomorrow lol
[06:09] <lagbox> i know my avis have audio/video tab in properties
[06:09] <lagbox> l0rdn1x, really now i want to know as well
[06:10]  * ObrienDave = 3 LOL
[06:10] <l0rdn1x> lol
[06:11] <lagbox> first world computer problems
[06:12] <maven> hello
[06:12] <lagbox> hi
[06:12] <maven> any Ubuntu expert? need help
[06:12] <lagbox> ask away
[06:13] <kelvinella> hello, can I create a windows7 bootable USB with this command? dd if=~/xxx.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ??
[06:14] <maven> I am planning to install Ubuntu in over 150 systems in our office. We only use VLC for videos and local network(browser and network file) which distro would you recommend?
[06:14] <lagbox> really
[06:14] <maven> Yes
[06:14] <kelvinella> Do I need sudo dd if=~/xxx.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ??
[06:14] <lagbox> hehe i guess you mean like what flavor of ubuntu ?
[06:14] <wallyp> yes
[06:14] <Ben64> maven: whichever you prefer
[06:14] <l0rdn1x> I found this guys, http://gentoovps.net/video-length-from-command-line/  then we just make a script that does that recursive for all file names in your folder wham
[06:14] <l0rdn1x> lol
[06:15] <lagbox> nice
[06:15] <maven> Yes :) i asked couple of my friends and they said Lubuntu would be good?
[06:16] <l0rdn1x> kelvinella: no
[06:16] <sqwaw> maven: you'd probably want something like ubuntu desktop and a kickstart file. you could completely customize the packages that come pre-instaled and tweak as needed
[06:16] <sqwaw> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[06:18] <l0rdn1x> kelvinella: you can try it though, for fun ;)
[06:18] <maven> sqwaw: I checked the link, that is actually good. I was checking SuseStudio, is that any good?
[06:19] <edition> basically, I want VLC to stream from the SE401 camera.
[06:25] <l0rdn1x> Well youtube-dl is broken ;(
[06:26] <lagbox> oh no
[06:26] <l0rdn1x> yeah check it out http://sprunge.us/ZVea
[06:26] <sqwaw> maven: no idea
[06:28] <Uttorent> Hi i'm trying to download uttorent can someone help ?
[06:30] <Ben64> !torrent | Uttorent
[06:30] <Uttorent> huh
[06:30] <Ben64> try one of those
[06:30] <Uttorent> i just want to know how to download
[06:30] <Uttorent> can someone do on teamviewr for me
[06:30] <Ben64> nope
[06:31] <Ben64> open the ubuntu software center and pick the one you like the most
[06:31] <Ben64> i use deluge, but i'm sure there are other good ones
[06:31] <l0rdn1x> why oh why does youtube-dl have to be broken? ugh
[06:35] <mgedmin> l0rdn1x, http://www.jwz.org/hacks/youtubedown works
[06:35] <mgedmin> (and is constantly updated to keep up with youtube changes)
[06:35] <edition> Is there a way of adding the SE401 camera device as /dev/video1.
[06:37] <l0rdn1x> Can someone else confirm youtube-dl is broken so I can report a bug to the developer.
[06:38] <siloxid> what is youtube-dl?
[06:38] <l0rdn1x> siloxid: a script to download youtube videos
[06:40] <siloxid> on what version of ubuntu?
[06:40] <l0rdn1x> 12.04 precise
[06:40] <siloxid> I don't have a machine with that version unfortunately
[06:41] <l0rdn1x> yeah im checking now to see if it's just the version in the repository
[06:41] <l0rdn1x> gonna compile it from the source site
[06:41] <mgedmin> l0rdn1x, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/youtube-dl/+bug/1318363 looks like the bug you're about to file?
[06:42] <l0rdn1x> I was getting a different error but let me try this other version that is not from the repository and see if it works.
[06:43] <Uttorent> cp: cannot stat 'uttorent server .. etc..etc' no such file or directory ???
[06:43] <Uttorent> what do i do
[06:43] <Ben64> Uttorent: what are you trying to do
[06:44] <lagbox> edition, why does it need to be video1
[06:44] <Uttorent> download uttorent
[06:44] <Uttorent> i get how to do it
[06:44] <Ben64> Uttorent: i already gave you a list of bittorrent clients, pick one of them
[06:44] <Uttorent> im using uttorent ?
[06:44] <Ben64> no
[06:44] <Uttorent> why not
[06:44] <edition> lagbox: for vlc, and testing purposes.
[06:44] <Ben64> because its not in ubuntu
[06:44] <lagbox> what video device is it listed as atm ?
[06:45] <Uttorent> oh sorry could i have that list again
[06:45] <edition> none.
[06:45] <lagbox> i haven't played with that stuff in awhile
[06:45] <Ben64> !torrent | Uttorent
[06:45] <lagbox> but i remember being able to move them around some how based on when the drivers loaded them
[06:45] <Uttorent> okay ill go with kttorent ?
[06:45] <Uttorent> where do i download
[06:45] <lagbox> transmission baby
[06:46] <Ben64> Uttorent: i've already told you that too, ubuntu software center
[06:46] <Uttorent> oh ok
[06:46] <Uttorent> thanks
[06:46] <Uttorent> so i wont be needing terminal
[06:47] <lagbox> nope, just click the ubuntu software center
[06:48] <miandonmenmian> I have installed a software, but it is not showing up on my installed software right after the installation. Is there any command to update the software information without rebooting the computer?
[06:49] <akaWolf> someone here used tightvncviewer?
[06:49] <lagbox> miandonmenmian, where are you seeing this listed of installed software ?
[06:49] <siloxid> ok, my machine finally finished processing files.  I rebooted to make it bring up the "report problem" dialogs and submitted the problem.  one admin password and five dialogs later it submitted the bug.  I'm not seeing any more dialogs now when I log in. awesome!
[06:49] <lagbox> sweet only 6 months in the making
[06:50] <miandonmenmian> lagbox: not actually seeing, just installed an updated version of a software, and when i call it on the terminal it still shows the old one. But i've had similar issues before. I believe i heard there is a command that refreshes this
[06:50] <siloxid> lagbox: the last time I tried to report the problem it went into an infinite loop of dialogs and I gave up
[06:50] <edition> lagbox: I need to find a way to get this SE401 camera to work as video1. My laptop webcam by default is video0.
[06:51] <lagbox> siloxid, ah ... yea that would be very very annoying
[06:51] <lagbox> understandable
[06:51] <lagbox> edition, what ever software you are using should be able to see all the devices so you can pick which one
[06:52] <edition> I need to install the driver first.
[06:52] <edition> somehow.
[06:52] <lagbox> miandonmenmian, for fun type     which your-command-here
[06:52] <lagbox> edition, it is entirely possible that after you get the driver and reboot that that device may become video1
[06:53] <edition> yes. But I need to install the driver first. Any suggestions?
[06:53] <lagbox> usb webcam ?
[06:54] <akaWolf> someone here used tightvncviewer?
[06:54] <miandonmenmian> lagbox: more explicitly I'm talking about cmake. which cmake : /usr/local/bin/cmake  then the installer says: -- Installing: /usr/local/bin/cmake
[06:54] <Ben64> akaWolf: ask your actual question
[06:54] <miandonmenmian> cmake version says its the old one.
[06:54] <lagbox> miandonmenmian, your not installing it from the repo ?
[06:55] <miandonmenmian> no
[06:55] <lagbox> edition, is it aox, philips, or kensington
[06:55] <Ben64> miandonmenmian: what version of ubuntu do you have, and which version of cmake do y9ou have
[06:55] <lagbox> miandonmenmian, do you know where the correct version is located atm ?
[06:55] <miandonmenmian> well, i tried with #updatedb and looks like got something
[06:56] <miandonmenmian> nah
[06:56] <edition> lagbox, according to the hardware description: "Endpoints, Inc. SE401 Webcam", so probably AOX.
[06:56] <edition> or not.
[06:56] <lagbox> isn't it an external webcam ?
[06:56] <miandonmenmian> tried on a new terminal, cmake --help shows the new version. old terminal shows the old version :S
[06:57] <edition> yes, its an external webcam.
[06:57] <Ben64> miandonmenmian: ok so close the old terminal?
[06:57] <lagbox> ah i guess it has no identifiers on it
[06:57] <edition> it was bought more than several years ago; I doubt it.
[06:58] <miandonmenmian> Ben64: yeah, well. I tried with #reset before, i was hoping to find a command that refreshes this. but i suppose close the old terminal does the trick
[06:58] <lagbox> it could be endpoint
[06:58] <lagbox> they make the se402
[06:58] <akaWolf> I can't grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer.
[06:58] <akaWolf> Ben64:
[06:58] <edition> yes, thats the endpoint, but definitely the correct driver.
[06:59] <l0rdn1x> lol, it said to run sudo youtube-dl -U ,  then to run it again and here is what I get when trying to run it the second time.. /usr/bin/youtube-dl: 1: /usr/bin/youtube-dl: Not: not found
[06:59] <DJJeff> pulseaudio plays just fine with VLC media player for flash and netflix it says "ALSA plug-in [plugin-container]" there is alot of stuttering and when I put in full screen it just crashes
[07:00] <lagbox> your kernel might have a se401 driver
[07:00] <DJJeff> running 14.04.1 LTS
[07:00] <lagbox> gspca_se401 ?
[07:02] <lagbox> maybe modprobe that bad boy
[07:02] <edition> ok
[07:02] <vicky> hello
[07:02] <vicky> anyone is there
[07:03] <Guest70897> hello
[07:03] <Guest70897> hi crash
[07:04] <edition> lagbox: so modprobe gspca_se401?
[07:04] <hariom> I have a server running 10.04 LTS. I am trying to update its apt repository but it is not able to resolve. What could be the problem?
[07:05] <akaWolf> how to grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer?
[07:05] <lagbox> sure why not
[07:05] <Guest70897> anyone here who can help on andorid
[07:05] <OERIAS> is there a way to have dash shortcut on an IBM Model M/
[07:05] <OERIAS> ?
[07:06] <Ben64> Guest70897: this channel is ubuntu only
[07:06] <edition> "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'gspca_se401': Operation not permitted"
[07:06] <Ben64> edition: needs sudo
[07:06] <ObrienDave> Guest70897 try #android
[07:06] <edition> that wont cause any issues?
[07:06] <akaWolf> how to grab all keyboard events in the fullscreen mode in tight vnc viewer?
[07:06] <l0rdn1x> Ok guys this right here will make you want to just freak out..lol http://sprunge.us/HDef
[07:06] <OERIAS> Guest70897, try #android or #android-os
[07:06] <Ben64> !patience | akaWolf
[07:06] <OERIAS> is there a way to have dash shortcut on an IBM Model M/
[07:07] <akaWolf> Ben64: hehe
[07:07] <lagbox> does the model m not have a meta key ?
[07:07] <OERIAS> lagbox, not my model
[07:07] <OERIAS> it is from 1993
[07:08] <lagbox> is this a computer ?
[07:08] <OERIAS> way before microscheisse made the windows key
[07:08] <OERIAS> lagbox, no
[07:08] <ObrienDave> toaster ;P
[07:08] <OERIAS> it is a keyboard
[07:08] <lagbox> what keys would you like to use
[07:08] <OERIAS> a clickyboard
[07:09] <OERIAS> on windoze it is ctrl+esc
[07:09] <OERIAS> but on ubuntu it is a different story
[07:09] <lagbox> you can change the bindings if you would like
[07:09] <OERIAS> how lagbox ?
[07:10] <lagbox> does this bot have a quick ref for keyboard bindings ?
[07:11] <lagbox> well i guess you need super really
[07:14] <lagbox> xmodmap ?
[07:19] <hariom> Sound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[07:20] <therue> hey is there an irc client in linux that allows you to show multiple channel windows at the same time? like how you can with mirc for windows by choosing tile-horizontal?
[07:21] <lagbox> im going to assume there is
[07:21] <lagbox> maybe something from the kde family
[07:25] <lagbox> looks like quassel can split the screen
[07:25] <lagbox> not sure about mosaic
[07:26] <l0rdn1x> well I just purged youtube-dl it's busted
[07:26] <l0rdn1x> It says to do a youtube-dl -U then it say it updated then it say command not found I give up it's just making me very angry
[07:27] <lagbox> hehe ... save that battle for another day
[07:27] <l0rdn1x> yep lol
[07:27] <lagbox> its to late for that
[07:27] <hariom> Sound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[07:27] <mgedmin> bash has a cache of command locations
[07:27] <hariom> How to fix this sound issue?
[07:27] <mgedmin> this sometimes results in fun unintuitive errors
[07:28] <lagbox> paths ?
[07:29] <OERIAS> therue, xchat
[07:33] <l0rdn1x> lagbox I fixed it lmao I just couldn't take it anymore
[07:33] <lagbox> haha
[07:34] <therue> does anyone run cinnamon on ubuntu?
[07:34] <lagbox> sounds like the life of a developer
[07:35] <l0rdn1x> Yeah I would of lost sleep over it, tossing and turning lol,  now I can sleep with comfort tonight knowing I can youtube-dl till my heart is content tomorrow
[07:35] <lagbox> that is how i am except i wouldn't sleep i would just stay up for ever
[07:35] <l0rdn1x> hahahaha yeah
[07:36] <lagbox> and 2 days later i would be in a coma
[07:36] <mmizgier> did anyone tried updating 12.04 to 14.04.1 on Dell XP13 Developer Edition (this one has got distro signed by Dell, doesn't know if there are any differences)?
[07:37] <lagbox> i would imagine if the drivers exist for all the hardware it shouldn't be to difficult
[07:38] <mmizgier> i hope so, still i'm a bit afraid that something might go wrong, so asked if anyone owns this as i do
[07:39] <mmizgier> not that i recommend buying one, as after 6 months my sound card is broken
[07:39] <l0rdn1x> everyone I know that has had a dell had a horrible crash
[07:39] <lagbox> its not one of those crazy ones with a programmable keyboard is it ?
[07:40] <mmizgier> lagbox: its not
[07:40] <dol> hi guys. does anybody know if I can play HDCP protected content on ubuntu?
[07:40] <mmizgier> but had to buy external sound card
[07:41] <lagbox> do all the features work on it in 12.04 ?
[07:41] <mmizgier> yep
[07:41] <lagbox> well thats a big plus
[07:41] <icloud> can someone help me understand what startx does? the reason is that i want to remove lightdm.   i was looking at xinitrc it defers to Xsession, and xsession source all the "sessionfiles" in the $syssessiondir
[07:41] <icloud> however, i have no idea what the $syssessiondir is pointing too
[07:41] <hariom> Sound doesn't seem to work on my 10.04 LTS: aplay -l aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...  But I have sound card present as I see in this output: lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[07:41] <hariom> How to fix this sound issue?
[07:42] <icloud> seems like its gone after booting
[07:42] <l0rdn1x> dol: http://forums.hexus.net/consumer-electronics/191909-so-hdcp-has-finally-been-cracked.html
[07:42] <icloud> and hello lagbox again : )
[07:42] <lagbox> hello
[07:42] <lagbox> again :)
[07:43] <dol> l0rdn1x, I have read that already but it doesn't say anything if I can play or not. I don't want an illegal thing and I have no aim to pirate things.
[07:44] <after_r> I would really love the "Ubuntu Mono" font in a light-weight variant... is that possible to make at all or to get?
[07:46] <l0rdn1x> dol: I don't know if it's officially supported or not without loss of some type.
[07:46] <after_r> but I really like how the Ubuntu fonts look.. especially Ubuntu Light.. bravo
[07:46] <lagbox> maybe something on font.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <dol> l0rdn1x, do you have experience with HDCP?
[07:46] <after_r> many thanks
[07:46] <opah> permisi
[07:47] <opah> slm untuk semua
[07:47] <l0rdn1x> dol: no
[07:48] <dol> l0rdn1x, it is very very hard to find a person who knows HDCP. That's make me sick.
[07:48] <lagbox> i never heard of it till you mentioned it
[07:49] <l0rdn1x> haha just another one of those cryptic codecs to try and prevent people from watching free movies lol
[07:50] <l0rdn1x> doesn't do anything special
[07:50] <lagbox> just another copy protection ?
[07:50] <l0rdn1x> yep
[07:50] <lagbox> yay another one
[07:50] <l0rdn1x> its been cracked already hahaha
[07:51] <lagbox> you think they are going to realize eventually they can't do anything to stop it
[07:51] <l0rdn1x> Nah they'll keep making more and more
[07:52] <monkwitdafunk> hi. does anybody have an opinion which nvidia proprietary drivers should be in the repository? i think nvidia certified drivers is the way to go
[07:56] <l0rdn1x> I think adobe should be boycotted,  They need to support Linux, or people need to stop using Flash on their websites lol
[07:57] <lagbox> i have all flash blocked
[08:00] <streulma> hello, my computer rans constantly out of memory. I have 4GB ram and want to run virtual machines.
[08:01] <lagbox> i hear ya
[08:01] <l0rdn1x> streulma: install more ram, perhaps 8GB ?
[08:01] <lagbox> i have 6gb and i run out
[08:01] <lagbox> no vms
[08:02] <donniezazen_> Long time ago ia32-libs used to be go to requirements for Android SDK. It no longer exist. I see blogs don't mention any package requirements for Android SDK except Java. Is there no 32 bit package requirement for Android SDK on Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:02] <streulma> l0rdn1x: it's soldered, Macbook Air
[08:02] <mobyduck> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a VM. I can't for the life of me locate the settings for keyboard layout
[08:02] <l0rdn1x> 8GB does me some good so far, but I would love to have 16gb just so I don't have to worry about it.
[08:02] <mobyduck> I want the OS in English, but I'm using a Swedish keyboard and want that layout
[08:02] <lagbox> for me chromium is the biggest offender :)
[08:04] <streulma> l0rdn1x should I buy a new notebook ?
[08:04] <l0rdn1x> streulma: yeah and send me the old macbook air I could put that thing to some good use
[08:04] <l0rdn1x> lol'
[08:04] <mobyduck> it should say EN somewhere in the upper bar, near the volume control and bluetooth and clock, shouldn't it?
[08:05] <mobyduck> or there should at least be a choice for keyboard layout in the "Keyboard" entry in the settings, but there isn't
[08:05] <mobyduck> wtf?
[08:05] <instigator> hello.whats the reason for using both tar and gzip together? Why not just use gzip to compress a folder containing files into a compressed file, without needing to use tar?
[08:05] <streulma> ????????????????????
[08:05] <streulma> no, for real
[08:06] <l0rdn1x> streulma: for real if your going to buy a brand new notebook, send me your Macbook if your gonna toss it lol
[08:07] <l0rdn1x> instigator: It makes for better compression.
[08:07] <streulma> nooooooooooo
[08:07] <l0rdn1x> Goodnight all
[08:07] <streulma> I sell it
[08:07] <mobyduck> no takers on my keyboard layout problem... I guess I'll try again later
[08:08] <instigator> l0rdn1x: from what I read tar does not compress files, only archives a number of files into one file, while gzip and compress a number of files in one file. So I dont see the point of using tar with gzip, since tar does not further compress the file
[08:08] <instigator> *while gzip can compress
[08:09] <instigator> sorry for typo
[08:09] <nick___> hey
[08:09] <nick___> KTorrent 9 kibs/s wtf.. when my speed test shows 100mbps download speed
[08:09] <andreasss> Hi need some help, i need mailutils without postfix.
[08:09] <ViaNocturna85> instigator, you are quite right. Tar is just an archiver, whilst gzip and bzip would be better for your needs
[08:10] <andreasss> or use the command mail i need
[08:10] <nick___> anyone suggest a better torrent ?
[08:10] <mobyduck> nvm. Solved it.
[08:12] <blaaa> instigator: you use gzip to compress and tar to archive
[08:12] <lagbox> gzip is normally used to compress single files, tar to take multiple files and create an archive   tar.gz   .tgz    tarball
[08:13] <WizardGed> anything i should know before spinning up the plasma 5 tech preview up in a vm
[08:14] <lagbox> i have no idea but it sounds cool
[08:21] <WizardGed> hmm it will not start up in virtualbox by default or with nomodset enabled
[08:21] <andreas> hello, just installed Geany. it used to work with the 'debugger' (red sign on the line number when fault in code), but it stopped, how do I turn it on again? Coding in PHP, I know next to nothing ye.t
[08:21] <WizardGed> have you saved the file as a .php file yet :)
[08:22] <andreas> yes
[08:22] <andreas> I am running it in xamp, I have syntax highlighting and all
[08:22] <WizardGed> ok have to start somewhere that's all
[08:23] <andreas> http://bildr.no/view/VnA2dXA1
[08:23] <andreas> screenshot of my geany
[08:28] <WizardGed> andreas: wait you want php debugging in geany
[08:28] <WizardGed> andreas: that's not possible at the moment
[08:29] <WizardGed> andreas: you can use xdebug in eclipse though
[08:30] <WizardGed> andreas: just don't download eclipse through your package manager it's outdated and mangled in the default repositories
[08:31] <SohamG> How do i change my resolution to 1920x1080 in ubuntu studio?
[08:32] <andreas> WizardGed: not full debugging, just red flags when I forget things like ;. It used to work
[08:33] <andreas> but it stopped, I probably broke something, tried purging it to no effect
[08:35] <andreasss> Oh,,t hanks.
[08:35] <andreasss> thanks.
[08:35] <andreasss> the only thing i want is to use the mail command but with ssmtp insteed
[08:36] <WizardGed> well all the stuff that has to do with syntax highlighting is in View menu > Highlight Mode > Scripts > PHP
[08:38] <lvleph> I have been digging and digging, but I can't seem to find out what is being run to get multimedia keys working in Unity, but not in lightdm. Any one know what happens during the start of Unity which gets the multimedia keys working?
[08:43] <WizardGed> andreas: did you get that?
[08:45] <emanuel_> vogloio skype
[08:45] <luzifer1> hai
[08:46] <luzifer1> hai
[08:50] <lvleph> While in lightdm my multimedia keys don't work, however once I have logged into Unity they work. If I log into another wm say i3 the multimedia keys aren't working. What is being run to get the multimedia keys working? Apparently this use to be handled by gnome-setting-daemon (now unity-settings-daemon), but I am not sure this explains why it doesn't show up in lightdm when it use to.
[08:58] <tasslehoff> In 14.04, how can I switch between network connections without nm-applet?
[09:07] <athit> hi
[09:07] <athit> help me pls
[09:08] <ViaNocturna85> athit, instead of just saying help, just ask the question, if anyone can help, they will
[09:10] <enzo2> quacuna da ROma?
[09:12] <enzo2> *roma
[09:12] <enzo2> #roma
[09:14] <dol> is HDCP supported in ubuntu?
[09:16] <enzo2> ciao ragazze
[09:23] <bcvery1> !it enzo2
[09:23] <bcvery1> !it | enzo2
[09:26] <Itachi> Hi, can anyone help me with read/write permissions
[09:26] <Itachi> for cd/dvds
[09:30] <Itachi> hello could someone help me with a problem im having
[09:33] <vineet_> how to install gparted
[09:33] <k1l_> Itachi: i bet someone could help if he knew what your issue is
[09:33] <vineet_> gparted
[09:33] <k1l_> vineet_: "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[09:33] <Itachi> i dont think anyone could but ok
[09:33] <Itachi> having problems with read/write permissions on cd /dvds
[09:33] <Itachi> trying to copy an iso to a disc
[09:34] <k1l_> Itachi: how do you try that?
[09:34] <Itachi> i've tried copy paste and just right clicking the iso
[09:34] <Itachi> and going write to disc
[09:34] <Itachi> when i copy past
[09:35] <Itachi> or move
[09:35] <Itachi> it says
[09:35] <Itachi> the destination is read only
[09:35] <k1l_> is it a RW cd/dvd?
[09:36] <Itachi> ill check
[09:36] <Itachi> ive tried 3 different cs
[09:36] <Itachi> ones a cdr
[09:36] <Itachi> ones a dvd r
[09:36] <Itachi> tried both
[09:36] <Itachi> they have files from a windows computer
[09:37] <k1l_> what ubuntu is that exactly? which program do you use(the filemanager?)?
[09:38] <Itachi> told you its such a difficult problem :/
[09:38] <Itachi> kinda puts me off ubuntu
[09:38] <Ben64> can you explain what you want fully in as much detail as possible
[09:39] <Itachi> yup
[09:39] <Itachi> Okay so i have an iso
[09:39] <Itachi> that i downloaded
[09:39] <Itachi> i want to put it on a disc
[09:39] <Itachi> but the disc says read only
[09:39] <Ben64> if you explain it on one line it will really help people read it
[09:39] <k1l_> i cant crosscheck since i dont have a cd/dvd device anymore. but last time i tried on a differen device it worked as expected. so please put more details in your question (best in one line)
[09:39] <Itachi> ive tried 3 differen t discs and searched the problem
[09:40] <k1l_> Itachi: <k1l_> what ubuntu is that exactly? which program do you use(the filemanager?)?
[09:40] <Itachi> ubuntu 14.0
[09:40] <Itachi> filemanger ummm
[09:40] <Itachi> how do you find out that
[09:40] <k1l_> 14.04? "lsb_release -d" give the full number
[09:40] <Itachi> pretty new to ubuntu only got today
[09:40] <Itachi> 14.04 yeh
[09:40] <Ben64> Itachi: do you want to write the iso to the disc as an image? or as a file on the disc? normally you'd write it as an image so you can use whatever it is supposed to be
[09:41] <k1l_> Itachi: yes which program do you use for that task?
[09:41] <guest-GpmPnd> h
[09:41] <Itachi> its an operating system so an image
[09:41] <k1l_> is it the filemanager or something else?
[09:41] <Itachi> 14.04 lts
[09:41] <Ben64> Itachi: ok so open up your favorite burning software (mine is k3b) and write it as an image to a blank disc
[09:41] <k1l_> Itachi: can you start the program "brasero" its like nero burning on windows
[09:41] <Itachi> ok
[09:42] <Itachi> create a new project
[09:42] <crypto_guy> hello, how i can disable the LAN input like "blacklist uvcvideo" disable the webcam ?
[09:42] <Itachi> seems to not want to do the iso
[09:43] <Itachi> it says please replace the disc with a supported cd or dvd..
[09:43] <k1l_> Itachi: is it a proper image?
[09:43] <Ben64> if you're in brasero, choose "Burn image"
[09:43] <Itachi> yeh
[09:43] <Itachi> friend used jsut before
[09:43] <Ben64> is the disc completely empty?
[09:43] <Itachi> no
[09:43] <Ben64> then you can't burn an image to it
[09:43] <Itachi> but it has space
[09:43] <Itachi> i think
[09:43] <Itachi> how can i delete stuff off it ?
[09:43] <Itachi> cause i only have a mac
[09:44] <k1l_> Itachi: no. a iso needs to use the whole disc.
[09:44] <Ben64> so? an image is a full disc image of a disc, and it has to be written fully
[09:44] <Itachi> ohh
[09:44] <Itachi> is there any way of fomating the disc
[09:44] <Ben64> not if it isn't a cdrw/dvdrw
[09:45] <Itachi> oh okay i think i have some cdrws upstairs
[09:45] <Itachi> if i grab one will i be able to re write it on ubuntu
[09:45] <Ben64> or you can get a blank cdr
[09:45] <Itachi> might not be one
[09:45] <Itachi> ill see
[09:48] <Itachi> back
[09:48] <ppf> hi
[09:48] <Itachi> hopefuly not scratched found some cdrws
[09:48] <Itachi> hi
[09:49] <ppf> i made some modifications to the ubuntu kernel
[09:49] <mcphail> Itachi: a cd will be too small for the standard Ubuntu image, I think
[09:49] <Itachi> not im trying to put windows 8
[09:49] <Itachi> its 3.6 gb i think
[09:49] <ppf> how can i prevent apt from "upgrading" the packages i generate and install when building my kernel?
[09:49] <Ben64> Itachi: yeah, a cd is 0.7GB so that won't work
[09:49] <Itachi> really
[09:49] <Itachi> it says 4.7gb
[09:49] <Ben64> then that is a dvd
[09:50] <Itachi> yeh it is
[09:50] <Itachi> dvd rw
[09:50] <Itachi> dvd and rw
[09:50] <Itachi> ill insert now
[09:50] <brainwash> !pinning | ppf
[09:50] <Ben64> cool, have fun
[09:50] <Itachi> no wait
[09:50] <Itachi> it says this
[09:50] <Itachi> you have just inserted a blank dvd choose what to do
[09:50] <Itachi> nvm ill see if it works
[09:51] <ppf> brainwash: so whenever i build and install a new version of my kernel i should pin it in dpkg/apt?
[09:51] <Itachi> sweet looks like its working :)
[09:51] <k1l_> Itachi: its the same task as if you want to burn a iso to a dvd on windows or mac. it may be have other program names or other colors but the task is the same. just dont let you distract because its a linux.
[09:51] <k1l_> Itachi: good.
[09:52] <Itachi> yeh i understand now
[09:52] <Itachi> only had ubuntu for few hours getting the hang of it now
[09:52] <brainwash> ppf: I guess you could pin the ubuntu linux packages by setting the priority to a low value, maybe even 0 or -1
[09:52] <Itachi> does anyone know how much space ubuntu OS takes up ?
[09:52] <Itachi> \
[09:53] <mcphail> ppf: you can simply remove the linux-image-generic package and things won't get updated (I think that's the package name...)
[09:53] <k1l_> Itachi: like minimal install? or on a full desktop isntall?
[09:53] <Itachi> full desktop install
[09:53] <ppf> why does apt try to update my custombuilt packages anyways? is it because of the name and version?
[09:54] <Itachi> are you using apt update ?
[09:54] <ppf> mcphail: i did that already, and that successfully prevents major version updates, nontheless it still tries to upgrade the individual packages if there is a change within a version
[09:54] <brainwash> ppf: take a look at "apt-cache policy <package>"
[09:54] <k1l_> Itachi: i would say 7-15 GB for / (system. depends on what amount of software you want to install) and then /home as much of you need for your files like media, hotos etc.
[09:54] <mcphail> ppf: how are you building and installing your kernel? The simple way or are you making a .deb?
[09:55] <Itachi> oh okay do you know if you can partion ubuntu whilest running win8 ?
[09:55] <Itachi> because i remember when i installed it there was a partion option but thats when i had no OS
[09:55] <hariom> Hey guys, any body expert on ubuntu sound issues? I am facing problem: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F
[09:55] <k1l_> ppf: apt will install any version that is newer than the one installed, when it finds one in the active repos.
[09:55] <ppf> i use the git sources at kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-trusty.git, and i build it using the debian/rules script
[09:55] <Ben64> Itachi: you can't really do anything with ubuntu partitions in windows
[09:55] <ppf> and that generates .debs
[09:55] <Itachi> o okay
[09:56] <mcphail> ppf: Aah. I find it much easier to do a simple make install. I don't like to use the package manager for kernels
[09:56] <k1l_> Itachi: of course you can manually change partitions in the installer. or in the live-ubuntu
[09:56] <Itachi> yeh
[09:56] <Itachi> I want to learn some more about ubuntu before i move back to windows do you have any suggestions ?
[09:56] <Itachi> i know some simple terminal commands
[09:57] <ppf> mcphail: that doesn't sound like the worst idea, i think i can give that a shot
[09:57] <mcphail> ppf: if you make a deb, it will be updated by the package manager unless you do pinning as above
[09:57] <k1l_> Itachi: just start using it.
[09:57] <Itachi> yeh i have but i'm still a bit confused with the installing stuff offline thing
[09:57] <ppf> mcphail: or could i somehow make it generate packages with a different name?
[09:57] <k1l_> ppf: use apt pinning to prevent updates
[09:58] <mcphail> ppf: probably but I don't know how ;)
[09:58] <bazhang> !manual | Itachi
[09:58] <k1l_> ppf: but be aware of the updates you need to do manually then
[09:58] <Itachi> okay thanks :)
[09:58] <bazhang> !rute | Itachi and this
[09:58] <ppf> yes, i understand that
[09:58] <Itachi> what do the names in red mean btw?
[09:59] <mcphail> ppf: the only problem I've had with "make install" is the nvidia driver tends to get into a muddle. I always run "apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-whateverversion" afterwards
[09:59] <k1l_> Itachi: its called "highlight". when somebody names your nick
[09:59] <ppf> first i'll try to find out how to change the -generic to something more distinguishing, maybe that'll throw apt off it's course!
[10:00] <mcphail> ppf: Ha! subterfuge will win!
[10:00] <ppf> I hope!
[10:08] <megaloden> Hey guys, anyone here using any dock bar?
[10:14] <hariom> Hey guys, any body expert on ubuntu sound issues? I am facing problem: http://pastebin.com/Et5mh77F
[10:14] <Ekaterin> Can Ubuntu autodetect your keyboard layout?  I have a user with a US keyboard but Ubuntu thinks it is UK.
[10:15] <k1l_> megaloden: unity already ships one :)
[10:17] <Itachi> to many sys messages
[10:17] <Itachi> lol
[10:17] <Itachi> has anyone made an ubuntu server here?
[10:17] <syf> hello EKATERIN， you can change your keyboard layout setting in system settings
[10:18] <k1l_> Itachi: what is your actual issue? please describe that with more details in one line (i thought we were past that stage)
[10:18] <syf> the Keyboard option
[10:18] <Itachi> i have no issues
[10:18] <Itachi> is this purely for issues ? sorry haha
[10:18] <Itachi> i didn't realise
[10:19] <Ben64> Itachi: there is #ubuntu-offtopic for everything else
[10:19] <Itachi> how do i get there
[10:19] <Ben64> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <Ekaterin> syf: thanks, I just wondered if there was some script that could be run at boot time to autodetect what keyboard has been plugged in.
[10:20] <syf> oh
[10:20] <Ben64> Ekaterin: normally people don't change keyboard layouts very often
[10:20] <kappri> guys i want to install utorrent in xbuntu using wine/playonelinux can someone help me
[10:21] <Itachi> offtopic link again
[10:21] <Itachi> please
[10:21] <Ben64> kappri: why not use one of the many native torrent clients
[10:21] <Ben64> Itachi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:21] <syf> I use ubuntu studio, and while installing there's a guide about Keyboard layout setting
[10:21] <k1l_> kappri: why do you insist of the windows client?
[10:22] <kappri> i want to download in both windows 8 and xubuntu. so which ever os i use i can continue to download
[10:23] <k1l_> kappri: so the first step is to get a client that works on ubuntu and windows?
[10:23] <Ben64> kappri: any torrent client can continue a file
[10:23] <hateball> Seems like someone is unaware of how torrents and hashes work
[10:23] <k1l_> kappri: but torrent clients should work with the same files anyway
[10:24] <kappri> i tried but it didn't work
[10:24] <Ben64> kappri: i guarantee you that it does work
[10:25] <kappri> i tried it with utorrent sever
[10:26] <Ben64> try deluge
[10:26] <kappri> @BEn64 which software r u using?
[10:26] <Ben64> deluge...
[10:27] <kappri> thanks
[10:33] <proj> Can anyone help me? How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf
[10:34] <proj> Can anyone help me? How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf
[10:34] <hateball> proj: most likely by installing libboost-dev by the looks of it
[10:35] <hateball> it's probably noted in the readme
[10:36] <Kartagis> http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Using_gFTP_with_ssh_sftp.html <--- I'm trying to follow this, but there's no SSH2 stuff on my SSH tab. any ideas?
[10:37] <proj> hateball:I've installed libboost-dev but the same error occurs. Does it matter which directory I am in when I install libboost? "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev"
[10:37] <pernixhot_> do you know what the 4th row of /etc/group means ? the adm thing
[10:37] <pernixhot_> how is it different from the sudoer
[10:39] <hateball> proj: nope. I suggest you read the readme or the build-script to see what it expects. it's not really an ubuntu issue
[10:43] <[devil-boy]> yoooooo*
[10:43] <[devil-boy]> what's the mdadm command for extended volume?
[10:44] <joelmo> how can I enable user units, I put one in ~/.config/systemd/user/ with ExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'echo afdasf > /home/joelmo/sysdworking' but its not running
[10:55] <elmaestro> hi guys, am looking to find a download resource for XAMPP, the sourceforge site stalls download midstream, any ideas?
[10:55] <proj> Can someone pls help me? :S
[10:56] <k1l_> elmaestro: use the packages ubuntu ships
[10:56] <k1l_> !lamp | elmaestro
[10:57] <k1l_> proj: what do you want to do at all?
[10:58] <proj> k1l_: How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same.
 how then do i install lamp from packages?
[10:58] <k1l_> elmaestro: seee the bots message
[10:58] <hariom> I am facing issue in playing a sound file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8745543/
[10:59] <k1l_> proj: what is the goal at all?
 if i use lamp instead of Xampp, will my site be viewable on most browsers in any OS?
[11:00] <k1l_> elmaestro: if you use the crappy xampp it will be a security nightmare. so you need to use lamp
[11:00] <proj> k1l_: I'm trying to run TCHunt but it's asking me to enter a binary name so it can compile/build tchunt. When I enter the binary name I get the error that occurred in the provided screenshot. Just wondering how I can eliminate these errors so it can actually run.
[11:01] <Ben64> proj: doesn't look like a well designed installer/program, might not work
[11:01] <k1l_> proj: see the answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/470508/how-do-i-find-all-the-truecrypt-encrypted-container-files-through-terminal
[11:01] <proj> k1l_: I have already executed that.
[11:02] <k1l_> you need some more depencies for this. normally they should be shipping a readme describing what to do and what you need
[11:02] <k1l_> proj: i doubt that. since your error message tells exactly what is missing and my link tells exactly to install that
[11:03] <proj> k1l_: I'll try it again
[11:03] <k1l_> proj: so please go and read again
[11:04] <proj> k1l_:http://gyazo.com/03ed74cc13c7717ba58fc1e0129df403 after executing: g++ -Os  `fltk-config --cxxflags` TCHunt.cpp `fltk-config --ldstaticflags` -lboost_system -lboost_filesystem -otchunt (in the TCHunt dir).
[11:05] <k1l_> proj: did you run the command before that, too? or are you again just picking random commands and entering them into the terminal?
[11:05] <k1l_> *commands before that
[11:05] <proj> k1l_: I ran the previous cmnds as well.
[11:08] <k1l_> seems like tchunt is not a good program at all
[11:10] <SohamG> how do i make the resolution on ubuntu studio 1920x1080??
[11:12] <cfhowlett> SohamG, install the proper video card drivers???
[11:12] <SohamG> cfhowlett : Ok..il do that and see if it works..thanks :)
[11:13] <k1l_> proj: "It's a bit of a pain to build because it needs so many dependencies " for a project that has not seen any update since 2011. even the authors website is offline. i would try to use another program
[11:16] <SohamG> cfhowlett : How do i run the .exe setup file(i am new)...i cant find WinE
[11:17] <k1l_> SohamG: stop
[11:17] <cfhowlett> SohamG, you don't.  exe is for windows.  you need the linux driver.  what is your card?
[11:17] <k1l_> you dont install windows video drivers on ubuntu. use the ubuntu ones. what video card do you use?
[11:17] <SohamG> cfhowlett : nvidia gtx 750ti(galaxy)
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | SohamG
[11:18] <k1l_> SohamG: so open a terminal and go "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[11:18] <SohamG> thanks..but in general whats the way to run a .exe?
[11:18] <k1l_> SohamG: please dont even think of doing that with the windows drivers.
[11:19] <paso> ciao
[11:19] <cfhowlett> SohamG, in general you DO NOT run .exe!  that's a WINDOWS format!  linux ain't windows!
[11:19] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:20] <SohamG> k1l_ : but if i have a game then....?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !wine | SohamG,
[11:20] <SohamG> ok
[11:20] <k1l_> SohamG: wine program-that-doesnt-exist-for-ubuntu.exe
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:20] <SohamG> ok thanks man :)
[11:21] <cfhowlett> SohamG, valve makes linux native games available on steam.
[11:22] <SohamG> ok...and for the command k1l_ gave me, is 'current' supposed to mean anything? cause that command dint work...
[11:22] <k1l_> SohamG: show the error in a pastebin
[11:22] <Vladimir> I have a software on windows which needs the private ssh key to my ubuntu server (for monitoring), I'm not sure which key to take, is it the /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ?
[11:22] <k1l_> and the command
[11:23] <SohamG> k1l_ its simply 'Unable to locate package' and the command is sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:23] <k1l_> !paste | SohamG
[11:23] <k1l_> SohamG: ok, please put "lsb_release -a" in there too
[11:23] <Vladimir> there's like 8 different keys in the /etc/ssh/ folder
[11:26] <nea1> hi, can someone tell me if /usr/bin/python2 exists in every still suppored Ubuntu version?
[11:26] <SohamG> k1l_ : saying that 'option -a is unknown'
[11:26] <k1l_> SohamG: ok, so you dont use a ubuntu at all?
[11:27] <SohamG> k1l_ : just installed it a few hours ago after my windows 7 failed me...so yeah..
[11:27] <k1l_> SohamG: show a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin
[11:27] <k1l_> !paste | SohamG
[11:28] <SohamG> k1l_ : you mean show the error?
[11:28] <k1l_> yes
[11:28] <Ben64> show whatever it says
[11:28] <k1l_> show all including the command
[11:33] <joelmo> I asked a question on askubuntu, if someone knows how to enable systemd user units in 14.10: http://askubuntu.com/questions/543563/how-to-enable-systemd-user-units-in-14-10
[11:34] <SohamG> k1l_ : here http://pastebin.com/Lc2siPeL and sorry for taking forever....my internets too bad
[11:34] <Ben64> SohamG: that is not what was asked for at all
[11:34] <k1l_> SohamG: i did ask for "lsb_release -a"
[11:35] <SohamG> k1l_ : please excuse my stupidity :P http://pastebin.com/xDhinsiB
[11:36] <k1l_> SohamG: so now run" sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"  when its finished (with or without error) put all into pastbin again
[11:40] <SohamG> yup will do
[11:42] <alexi5> hello
[11:43] <alexi5> do any of you guys know a windows tool that can copy the iso installation to a usb flash drive ?
[11:44] <jnhghy_> hi, I've repartitionated my ssd and now I get "unable to mount /home" when the os is starting, if I skip this step everything works correctly ... how can I correct this? I've understand that I need to reread/recheck the ssd with the kernel ... I didn't understood exactly what I have to do ... at this point I'm booted using a 12.04 live cd can anybody help?
[11:44] <k1l_> alexi5: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[11:47] <hateball> jnhghy_: did you resize partitions or recreate them?
[11:48] <hateball> jnhghy_: if your partitions UUID have changed, you need to adjust in /etc/fstab accordingly
[11:48] <jnhghy_> hateball: I've deleted some partitions and then resized the 1st partition
[11:49] <joaof> Hi! Does anyone know of a good way to configure switchable graphics on Ubuntu? I updated to 14.10 recently, and I can't get anything to work. I had made modifications from tutorials so I could switch off the AMD gpu (it was draining my battery), now when I turn the pc on I get "running on low graphics mode" and can't get to the desktop.
[11:49] <hateball> jnhghy_: use "blkid" to see your current UUIDs and adjust to that
[11:51] <karab44> hello
[11:51] <alexi5> thanks k1l_
[11:51] <karab44> can I plugin the disk with i.e. ubuntu 14.04 to absolutely new architecture? I am about to change my PC.
[11:52] <boriseto> For some reason, unity on 12.04 doesn't always load the applications. My guess was that it had something to do with the zeitgeist service, but I'm unsure of it. Can anybody point me to a quick fix for loading times?
[11:52] <hateball> karab44: if you change GPU you will have some issues, but it can be solved with rescue shell most likely
[11:53] <Kartagis> http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Using_gFTP_with_ssh_sftp.html <--- I'm trying to follow this, but there's no SSH2 stuff on my SSH tab. any ideas?
[11:53] <karab44> hateball: yeah, I am experienced with that last times heheh ;)
[11:54] <karab44> hateball: but I want to add 1 more GPU with the same architecture but I go with other things as well . What about CPU? I go from i7 4 to 8 cores and z68 to x99
[11:54] <leeyaa> hello
[11:54] <leeyaa> do you guys know if there is an ubuntu package for Text::CSV_Multiline
[11:54] <leeyaa> its a perl module
[11:54] <karab44> can I just simply plugin my OS to new hardware and wait it updates?
[11:55] <hateball> karab44: it *should* load the relevant modules on boot, by magic
[11:55] <hateball> karab44: exception being things like proprietary drivers, if you switch between ati/nvidia for instance
[11:57] <karab44> hateball: that's what's really cool about this system :)
[12:02] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[12:03] <yellabs-r2> what does the selinux file stand for ?
[12:03] <yellabs-r2> in the linux file herachy
[12:04] <Laban> yellabs-r2: Security Enhanced Linux
[12:05] <yellabs-r2> how would i describe it, whats it for ? for example the role of /sbin directory is for system binaries , whats the role of selinux directory ?
[12:07] <somsip> yellabs-r2: homework?
[12:07] <Laban> yellabs-r2: Don't know, sorrt. If I would guess, I'd say SELinux-policy files.
[12:08] <yellabs-r2> yeah - linux course edx , lol
[12:08] <somsip> yellabs-r2: not here then. This is for support only. You could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <yellabs-r2> okey i think its policy files
[12:09] <yellabs-r2> thanks any way , ps : on my ubuntu system the file is empty , so its a ubuntu related question
[12:09] <yellabs-r2> knowledge = power :)
[12:09] <somsip> yellabs-r2: asking other people = weak
[12:09] <Laban> Pfft
[12:09] <daniel> hello
[12:10] <Laban> Asking others = one way of learning
[12:10] <Guest12468> pls anyone with help on how to convert pdf files to word on ubuntu
[12:10] <somsip> Laban: you saw how he did it. Enough anyway - OT
[12:13] <Guest12468> hey anybody home
[12:14] <cristian_c> Hello
[12:16] <Guest12468> hello
[12:16] <williangliao> hello world
[12:25] <elmaestro> anyone with idea how to setup a virtual host after installing Apache?
[12:26] <giuseppe_> !list
[12:26] <jpds> elmaestro: Shove it in /etc/apache2/sites-available ?
[12:26] <proj> How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same.
 thanks, but what exactly do u mean?
[12:27] <Guido1> by the xubuntu realease nots iut is writen "Upgraders from Trusty will not see the new xfce4-power-manager panel plugin by default, but instead stick to indicator-power. This can easily be resolved by uninstalling indicator-power and adding the “Power Manager Plugin” to the panel." how do i do that?
[12:27] <jpds> elmaestro: Place a file with the vhost configuration in there.
[12:28] <PaulVern> I just paired my Wii U Pro controller to my laptop running Xubuntu.  It works great in games, but the left joystick also moves the mouse cursor
[12:28] <PaulVern> very distracting
[12:28] <PaulVern> any way to avoid this?
[12:29] <TLoFP> hi I have a ubuntu machine that my router is trying to serve a static IP, however, once it received a dynamic IP it won't let go of it
 ok, but what if i want to point to a new directory or i can only stick with /etc/apache2/sites-available
[12:34] <lasers> PaulVern: iirc uninstall xf86-input-joystick (something)
[12:35] <novist> how can i make it so unity switches to workspace which window belongs when that window is activated from sidebar?
[12:42] <landgao> how can i master ubnutu
[12:42] <lultron> take meth
[12:43] <lultron> OR Iif you want it to work correctly use it in VMware under windows because every piece of technology you own is owned by a fascist corporation anywyay, why not have your software and hardware work correctly
[12:46] <Quentinker> Yolo !
[12:46] <sunee> need help..my pc takes too much time to start up.how to fix it ?
[12:47] <lultron> I want to set everyone that told me not to use linux in a vm when using a pc made for windows.
[12:47] <waressearcher2> I tryed to mount nfs partition from other system that is older and it says "mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported", how to fix it and mount remote partition ?
[12:47] <lultron> I want to set everyone that told me not to use linuxon fire n a vm when using a pc made for windows.
[12:48] <Laban> I don't get your reasoning lultron... Torching people aside... PC made for windows? Usuaully runs *nix just fine.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !topic | lultron,
[12:50] <Fyr> guys! could you recommend a diary program that has encryption on it?
[12:54] <Protag> hmmmm I have a directory on my ubuntu installation called "chriss_old_harddrive?sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive" which is obviously an error. how do I change it's name to just "hdd"?
[12:54] <Protag> obviously I "mv" it, but whenever I do it's saying the folder doesn't exist- because it has a quetion mark or spaces in it I suppose
[12:54] <Fyr> use slashes "\ ", "\?"
[12:55] <wzi7369> Protag: mv ./chriss<TAB> hdd
[12:55] <Fyr> mv hdd\ drive
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Protag, directory name with spaces?  no.  perhaps 'name here' or name_here
[12:55] <Protag> yeah I obviously botched the naming of it at some point
[12:56] <Protag> but when i try to do tab completion I get two files listed: chriss_old_harddrive             sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive
[12:57] <wzi7369> Protag: maybe it looks like two names, could it be one name with spaces?
[12:59] <Protag> well that's where I'm puzzled. when i "ls" it's just one big file called "chriss_old_harddrive?sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive"
[13:01] <wzi7369> Protag: is it the only entry in the directory beginning with "chriss_old"?
[13:01] <Protag> yup
[13:01] <wzi7369> Protag: then you may try  mv chriss_old* hdd
[13:01] <blaaa> Protag: can you pipe the ls output into some program which allows you to look at the bits?
[13:02] <Protag> oh of course! ok let me see
[13:02] <lubuntu_swap> :(
[13:02] <Protag> that worked! thank yoU!
[13:02] <wzi7369> Protag: yw
[13:03] <lubuntu_swap> Hi I've a weird problem: Trying to start my lubuntu machine as every morning, got stuck at booting "/dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-swap_1 not ready". Already waiting half an hour but nothing happens. What happened to my system? Everything worked yesterday evening.
[13:08] <DJJeff> several years later and alsa+pulseaudio still fucking suck
[13:09] <Fyr> alsa or pulseaudio?
[13:09] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: Maybe you could comment out the line from /etc/fstab which enables mounting swap at boot. Booting into rescue mode could help do this. Later, when system boots properly, you can manually try to mount swap.
[13:09] <DJJeff> not sure
[13:09] <DJJeff> vlc media player plays sound just fine
[13:10] <DJJeff> where as firefox + flash it stutters like shit
[13:10] <DJJeff> and steam for ubuntu has sound issues as well
[13:10] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: so comment out every swap partition in fstab right?
[13:10] <DJJeff> I did apt-get purge of both alsa and pulseaudio rebooted reinstalled and still have issues
[13:11] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: Every swap partition? I never heard of more than one swap partition.
[13:11] <shakuev> всем привет
[13:11] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: but there is vg-swap_1 and cryptswap in there, so i gues sboth?
[13:13] <DJJeff> it could be how flash player works with alsa that is the problem
[13:13] <DJJeff> # rm -rf /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[13:13] <DJJeff> it falls back to html5 for youtube
[13:13] <DJJeff> and sound is fine
[13:13] <DJJeff> reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:14] <DJJeff> and sound is yet again garbage
[13:14] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: I am more of a fedora guy. Never heard of cryptswap so can't comment on it.
[13:14] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: haha so better switch then :D
[13:14] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: Hopefully soon. :D
[13:18] <elmaestro> guys, am stuck and frustrated, creating a virtual host after installing apache 2 but am not getting any luck, ideas?
[13:18] <hateball> elmaestro: maybe in #httpd
what do u mean?
[13:19] <SirLagz> elmaestro: he meant maybe ask that question in #httpd
 can i access that chatroom without logging out of this one?
[13:20] <SirLagz> elmaestro: yes, /j #httpd
[13:25] <White_Cat> is there an easy(er) way to setup a local smtp server
[13:26] <HFSPLUS> !ops
[13:26] <pbx> White_Cat, easier than what? what have you tried?
[13:27] <fridaynext> can drives spin down to standby mode if I'm connected via SMB (not reading/writing, though)?
[13:27] <moldy> of course
[13:28] <jnhghy> how do I disable mouse movement in when hover over terminal? (I can work with mouse disabled all together in terminal window)
[13:28] <White_Cat> pbx no I havent tried anything
[13:28] <White_Cat> all it needs to do is send emails not recieve it
[13:28] <White_Cat> and it only needs to work on localhost
[13:28] <White_Cat> is there something basic for that?
[13:29] <fridaynext> moldy: so how can i research what's keeping the drives spinning after five minutes (my spindown time)?
[13:30] <lumia900> how to add my ubuntu to workgroup ?
[13:32] <spiritsack> Has anyone else experienced issued where Eclipse says ports 80 and 443 are in use by something else, but when I do netsat -pan nothing are using those ports?
[13:32] <mert> heyy
[13:32] <mert> where you frm
[13:32] <cfhowlett> mert, this is ubuntu support.  not socializing.  ask your support questions
[13:32] <ilhami> lol
[13:33] <spiritsack> Please correct me if this is not the right place to ask.
[13:33] <fridaynext> Ah, I just read that my WD Red drives don't support APM, so they won't spin down with the hdparm settings I've enabled.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> spiritsack, right place to ask.  patience.  maybe someone knows.
[13:34] <spiritsack> thanks
[13:34] <pbx> lumia900, give more context.
[13:35] <swatti> i have a lenovo y510p(SLI nv 755m) notebook and install ubuntu 14.04, next install nvidia driver, but restart and black screen pulse cursor
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | swatti
[13:35] <swatti> ok ty
[13:36] <spiritsack> I have just started participating on a java webapp where I work. To get it working I have to set tomcat to use 443 instead of 8443. But when I try to run the project I get an error saying the port is in use by something else
[13:36] <DJones> swatti: Which nvidia driver did you install, I've got a y510p, with 14.04 I used nvidia-prime and it worked straight off without issue
[13:37] <m00nk1n> swatti: if previous comments doesnt' help - check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/239707/ideapad-z580-wont-boot-kernels-above-3-2-0-32/353999#353999
[13:37] <spiritsack> 8080 and 8433 doesnt give an error though, but the webapp doesnt work
[13:37] <m00nk1n> swatti: i have similar problem on several lenovo notebooks
[13:37] <sagat> bom dia
[13:38] <sagat> alguem ai sabe me dizer oque fazer para o meu ubuntu 14.10 ficar mais rapido
[13:38] <sagat> a maquina que eu uso é muito boa
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !es | sagat
[13:38] <sagat> quad core
[13:38] <DJones> !pt | sagat
[13:39] <pbx> good catch DJones
[13:39] <zymm> so I'm banging my head against the wall with jack. any can help?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> DJones, impessive
[13:39] <cfhowlett> *impressive*
[13:39] <DJones> cfhowlett: So's google translate :)
[13:39] <cfhowlett> zymm, jack has that effect.  ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[13:40] <zymm> thankx.
[13:41] <swatti> DJones m00nk1n ty
[13:42] <m00nk1n> swatti: and if that doesn't help and your notebook will delays on boot - use rpm-based distro
[13:42] <OHMYBUDDHA> testing
[13:42] <OerHeks> m00nk1n, rpm based distro ?
[13:42] <OerHeks> lolz
[13:45] <SohamG> In the 'software and updates' tool of ubuntu studio 14, i have enabled every source still my additional drivers is empty and the nvidia drivers i am looking for are not there. How do i fix this?
[13:46] <OerHeks> SohamG, what videocard do you have? open terminal: lspci | grep VGA # and paste that line(s) here
[13:47] <SohamG> I have the gtx 750ti (galaxy) : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)
[13:47] <SohamG> OerHeks, ^
[13:48] <veleno> hello. i’ve this issue strange issue: i’ve deleted a directory, but somehow the files seems to stil take disk space: https://gist.github.com/vschiavoni/b69a429ee4da1220ec9d
[13:48] <veleno> in the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[13:50] <cfhowlett> veleno, empty the .trash
[13:50] <OerHeks> SohamG, you need the nvidia 343 driver, add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:50] <veleno> cfhowlett: from command line ?
[13:50] <OerHeks> SohamG, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/469377/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-shows-black-screen-gtx-750-ti
[13:51] <SohamG> thanks OerHeks ill do that
[13:51] <Samuraicat> Trying to assist my mother with her laptop (I'm not there so makes it difficult)
[13:51] <cfhowlett> veleno, yep.  sudo rm -rf trash:///          I THINK
[13:52] <Samuraicat> She was installing an update the other day and the update froze
[13:52] <Samuraicat> She restarted the laptop and freezes at ubuntu splash screen
[13:52] <lumia900> pbx as am tring to make my ubuntu as file server in office .. so office on WORKGROUP
[13:52] <Samuraicat> Anything we can do? She can pull up the terminal window.
[13:53] <lumia900> so with out adding a additional host all my workstation need to access the ubuntu server
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !server | lumia900,
[13:53] <lumia900> whats the possible place i need to make the WORKGROUP = XXXXXX
[13:53] <OerHeks> Samuraicat, try this in  in terminal:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:55] <swatti> add nomodeset ... but nothing :D
[13:55] <lumia900> ubuntu adding to WORKGROUP
[13:55] <lumia900> help!
[13:55] <AlexPortable> Ubuntu 10.04 had the ability to press alt+printscreen+k to log out if something froze
[13:56] <AlexPortable> whats the equivalent on 14.04?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !patience | lumia900
[13:56] <SohamG> OerHeks : still nothing showing up....
[13:56] <lumia900> lol
[13:58] <OerHeks> SohamG, just run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-343
[13:58] <OerHeks> and reboot i guess
[13:58] <Samuraicat> OerHeks : she did that and it said "processing halted, there was too many errors"
[13:58] <SohamG> OerHeks : it says unable to locate package
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Samuraicat, not good.  reinstall may be the only cure.
[14:00] <aneks> Hey guys, does anyone know how I can fix this? http://pastebin.com/ZssgSkrh
[14:00] <gthank> Does logrotate make any guarantees about whether a log can be rotated in the middle of a line?
[14:00] <Samuraicat> cfhowlett: Thanks. That's what I'm trying to avoid!
[14:00] <Samuraicat> cfhowlett: but if that what it take's, oh well.
[14:01] <SohamG> OerHeks
[14:01] <hateball> aneks: is it a removable media with NTFS filesystem
[14:01] <SohamG> thats not working
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Samuraicat, I know.  on the upside: she's already got partitions.  resinstalling *might* not be overly complicated if you are very patient ...and have a good skype/phone line ...
[14:01] <hateball> aneks: and what are you trying to acheive/solve
[14:01] <aneks> hateball: it's a hard drive that I use for data
[14:02] <aneks> hateball: I'm trying to change permissions on it, but for some reason root is the owner and it shouldn't be
[14:02] <hateball> aneks: Well is it an ext* filesystem?
[14:02] <tony_psy> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and when I log in as root and "ls" it doesnt show a home folder. When I adduser it also doesnt show a home folder like my ubuntu desktop. Am I doing something wrong?
[14:02] <aneks> hateball: it's an ntfs file system
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !server | tony_psy
[14:03] <Samuraicat> Thanks all!
[14:03] <hateball> aneks: Yes, and you cant change perms on ntfs with chown. As you can see it is mounted with 777 so everyone can alter it. Still not sure what problem you are trying to solve
[14:04] <aneks> hateball: how can I change permissions on it or change user and group owner from root to my own username?
[14:05] <Surendil> chgrp
[14:05] <hateball> aneks: you can mount it with options that set it to your user. it is already 777 so anyone can edit stuff on it anyhow
[14:06] <hateball> aneks: if you want to apply linux permissions, you need a linux native filesystem
[14:06] <aneks> hateball: the reason being is that my torrents download into a folder on that drive and they won't save, saying permission denied. If it's 777 should be able to work
[14:07] <ThePendulum> So, uh... My desktop environment is gone, probably due a faulty python removal last night
[14:07] <ThePendulum> Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity
[14:07] <revan> selam
[14:08] <ThePendulum> Is there any way to get it back properly or would a complete reinstall probably be the most effortless at this point?
[14:08] <Surendil> aneks: as hateball said, you can mount the drive with wr options, if you want to change permissions chgrp user.user -R /mountpoint
[14:09] <Surendil> ThePendulum: if you have /home on other partition, yes
[14:09] <BSzalai> hi
[14:09] <ThePendulum> Surendil: I don't, but there's nothing interesting in /home for me
[14:09] <BSzalai> anyone can help why my Krusader file manager runs only in root mode? in normal mode it hangs out
[14:09] <ThePendulum> In fact, I could back up if there is any
[14:10] <Surendil> sorry, misread the question..
[14:10] <ThePendulum> It's just the GUI and a ton of applications that are gone
[14:10] <Surendil> ThePendulum: try apt-get install -f
[14:10] <aneks> Surendil: I know how to change group ownership but chgrp igor -R doesn't fix it, it's still owned by root
[14:10] <Surendil> might do the trick, if not, reinstall is your bests option
[14:10] <ThePendulum> Surendil: Says there's nothing to change
[14:10] <Surendil> aneks: chgrp igor.igor
[14:11] <ThePendulum> No command to have Ubuntu check its own integrity and see if there's anything fundamental missing?
[14:11] <aneks> Surendil: chgrp only changes the group ownership, chgrp igor.igor isn't a valid command
[14:11] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, check the .iso you download, check the USB you make the .iso
[14:11] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation when minimizing a window?
[14:12] <Surendil> AlexPortable: compiz settings usually
[14:12] <goffaux> bonjour
[14:12] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: I mean to have an installed Ubuntu compare itself to a fresh iso and install what's missing. Basically a partial fresh install without removing what's already on there
[14:12] <Surendil> aneks: then check your /etc/groups file and use the right one
[14:13] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, if you mean verify installation of programs only, sure.  a script to run dpkg -l and compare against the .iso manifest ...
[14:14] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: Hmpf, I'll boot into Windows and make myself a fresh flash with Ubuntu, probably the safest.
[14:15] <ThePendulum> And a huge post-it on my screen to -never- remove something from python
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | ThePendulum, yep.  but do the check the .iso and usb ... for sanity
[14:15] <AlexPortable> Surendil: yes but where in compiz settings, can't find it
[14:16] <Surendil> gnome, kde or xfce?
[14:18] <AlexPortable> unity
[14:18] <AlexPortable> I meant the animation the left bar
[14:18] <kubuntu89fux> AlexPortable: try ubuntutweak
[14:22] <AlexPortable> kubuntu89fux: can't find it there either
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  what do you want to do
[14:24] <AlexPortable> when i minimize a window, i get an animation poping up in the unity left bar
[14:24] <AlexPortable> but this distracts me
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/138622/how-to-disable-all-unity-animations#169634
[14:30] <AlexPortable> "I assume you are talking about the naimations where the launcher blurs"
[14:30] <AlexPortable> no
[14:45] <Qadri>   
[14:49] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?
[14:51] <Andres2> helo i have 1 o mor problems.
[14:51] <Andres2> 1 need repair grub but required a live-usb
[14:51] <Andres2> 2 the usb live say failed to load com32 file menu.c32 (search in google and say " copy file in to root usb" but don work)
[14:51] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/386651/how-can-i-turn-off-animations-in-ubuntu-13-10 also for 14.04/14.10 , install unity-tweak
[14:51] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, ^^
[14:52] <Andres2> unetbin dont write,download files ...
[14:52] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: nope, still shows the animation
[14:53] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, maybe you need to logout/login to make it work
[14:53] <AlexPortable> i did
[14:53] <OerHeks> works here
[14:53] <AlexPortable> still shows the minimize animation in the unity bar
[14:57] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  sunny weather in Sillicon Valley, i guess
[14:58] <AlexPortable> ?
[15:00] <squinty> Andres2:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/1190256  seems there is some current info there
[15:01] <Andres2> i say ... copy files and don work
[15:02] <White_Cat> I can't ping google.com (unknown host). But I can ping IP addresses.
[15:02] <White_Cat> why could this be?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  that's a adns issue
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  that's a a dns issue
[15:03] <White_Cat> well, how can i fix it
[15:03] <White_Cat> how can I specify fns?
[15:03] <White_Cat> *dns
[15:03] <tuannvps01907> a
[15:03] <White_Cat> I can just configure it to 8.8.8.8 but I dont know how
[15:04] <daftykins> White_Cat: does this problem persist after a reboot?
[15:04] <White_Cat> yes
[15:05] <daftykins> White_Cat: what type of computer is this? how do you connect to the internet?
[15:06] <fa7ad> #ajenti
[15:06] <squinty> Andres2:  then use the dd method or check out pendrivelinux.com for alternate methods/software.
[15:06] <White_Cat> daedeloth its a hyper-v machine
[15:06] <White_Cat> it connects through lan
[15:06] <White_Cat> there is internet on the lan and the computer can connect to ips
[15:06] <fa7ad> somebody walk me through on how to get openvpn to work with ajenti please
[15:09] <squinty> fa7ad:  there is #openvpn channel here on freenode
[15:10] <daftykins> White_Cat: ok you can resolve DNS by first removing the package resolvconf, then rebooting, then put the line "nameserver 8.8.8.8" into /etc/resolv.conf
[15:12] <acerspyro> As a follow-up to the question I asked yesterday, I can't alt tab out of fullscreen GLX or SDL applications. Blender uses GLX, and pretty much all games use SDL.
[15:13] <acerspyro> But I have no idea what causes some apps to display in the wrong position when maximized.
[15:13] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[15:13] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?
[15:14] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Compiz settings
[15:14] <acerspyro> You need to install an application for that tho
[15:14] <AlexPortable> where in compiz settings?
[15:15] <acerspyro> Nowhere, you need to install it
[15:15] <acerspyro> Because, who knows, somebody didn't want users to figure out how to change advanced settings without a Google...
[15:16] <AlexPortable> I've spent a couple of hours googling
[15:16] <AlexPortable> Tried several tools
[15:16] <acerspyro> I spent two minutes, but that's just me, because I knew what Compiz was.
[15:17] <AlexPortable> you mean ccsm?
[15:17] <acerspyro> compizconfig
[15:17] <acerspyro> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:18] <acerspyro> I wonder why the sudo command isn't implied when you run apt-get...
[15:18] <AlexPortable> and then launch compizconfig?
[15:18] <White_Cat> daftykins how can I remove the package? sudo apt-get uninstall resolvconf ?
[15:18] <acerspyro> Uh, type "compiz" and press tab
[15:18] <daftykins> apt-get remove resolvconf
[15:18] <daftykins> White_Cat: ^
[15:18] <White_Cat> ah remove
[15:19] <daftykins> White_Cat: why is it a hyper-V host, are you in education?
[15:19] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: compiz or compiz-decorator ?
[15:19] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Did you install it%
[15:19] <acerspyro> ?*
[15:19] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:19] <AlexPortable> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:19] <White_Cat> daftykins because I am testing something
[15:19] <acerspyro> compizconfig
[15:19] <White_Cat> live server will come later
[15:19] <AlexPortable> compizconfig: command not found
[15:20] <White_Cat> in the meanwhile I dont want to spend all my time next to the water cooler looking like an idiot :)
[15:20] <acerspyro> http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2756/ubuntu_install_compiz_config_settings_manager_configure_desktop_effects/
[15:20] <daftykins> White_Cat: water cooler 0o
[15:20] <AlexPortable> ok found it
[15:20] <AlexPortable> it was in the start menu
[15:20] <White_Cat> it cools water :p
[15:20] <acerspyro> >Start menu
[15:20] <acerspyro> What's a start menu?
[15:20] <AlexPortable> the button you press to start applications
[15:20] <White_Cat> its the button that existed since the 90s
[15:21] <AlexPortable> left top corner
[15:21] <acerspyro> You can'T access your computer when it's turned off, how could you have a menu to start it? :P
[15:21] <White_Cat> it exists in windows and ubuntu desktop
[15:21] <AlexPortable> it doesn't starts hardware
[15:21] <AlexPortable> it starts software
[15:21] <AlexPortable> how can you access a menu when your computer is turned off?
[15:21] <White_Cat> acerspyro 'd appreciate if you dont confuse people asking for help more :p
[15:21] <acerspyro> White_Cat: It's not a start button
[15:21] <AlexPortable> what is it then?
[15:21] <acerspyro> It's the Unity button
[15:21] <AlexPortable> a shutdown button?
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and in windows 8 it's the metro / modern ui button
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and on windows 7 it was the start button
[15:22] <acerspyro> Yeah whatevs
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and on mac os it's finder button
[15:22] <AlexPortable> w/e
[15:22] <White_Cat> acerspyro, and your seat cussion cant be used as a flotation device either but you do not see me complaining
[15:22] <acerspyro> Unity button.
[15:22] <AlexPortable> anyway
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> it'sz called HUD in Unity
[15:22] <AlexPortable> how do I disable the unity minimize animation?
[15:23] <AlexPortable> i clicked unity in compizconfig
[15:23] <White_Cat> there is a module for that IIRC but I never used it
[15:23] <acerspyro> Also, title bars disappear during animation, is this normal?
[15:23] <White_Cat> rather I always use ubuntu-server
[15:23] <White_Cat> no UI :/
[15:24] <webb1wd> hello guys.I have a problem which i think is small for you.I installed a new hdd on my ubuntu pc.I changed the sata ports of the hdd,on the motherboard.The first time i power on the pc i got stuck on the listing pci devices screen(its an old cpc)
[15:24] <daftykins> *GUI not UI ;)
[15:24] <daftykins> webb1wd: change them back
[15:24] <webb1wd> then i went to bios and changed order to boot from and it worked allright
[15:24] <AlexPortable> also i don't mean window animation
[15:24] <AlexPortable> i mean animation poping up in the left bar
[15:25] <webb1wd> thanks daftykins for your answer,i have already slolved this problem and i thought i might be important for the upcoming problem.
[15:26] <webb1wd> now i get to ubuntu to startup and i get "Gave up waiting for root device error"
[15:26] <daftykins> webb1wd: ok, i shall wait for the actual question
[15:26] <msingh_> #zinc
[15:26] <daftykins> webb1wd: so did you have adisk with an old install, then you plugged in the new one and installed a clean ubuntu to that new disk?
[15:26] <acerspyro> msingh_: nup, u phail, try again.
[15:27] <daftykins> acerspyro: don't make useless comments
[15:27] <acerspyro> D: you guys have no sense of humor.
[15:27] <webb1wd> daftykins i just added a new disk,it says smthng about uuid.
[15:27] <acerspyro> >This is not a channel for humor
[15:27] <daftykins> webb1wd: so the new disk is storage only?
[15:27] <acerspyro> Then it's lifeless
[15:28] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[15:28] <webb1wd> daftykins yes,untouched
[15:28] <daftykins> acerspyro: we do, but the place for stupid chatter is in #ubuntu-offtopic - this channel is for support only. so please buck up
[15:28] <webb1wd> daftykins maybe tell it to see for another uuid ?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  in windows everything is more sharp, why is this?
[15:28] <acerspyro> Hrm. That channel is the toughest channel I've seen on Freenode. So seriopus it's inhuman, but w/e
[15:28] <daftykins> webb1wd: did the SATA cable juggling involve moving the OS disk away from being in a more primary port number?
[15:29] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: thanks for rephrasing my question
[15:29] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: What do you mean it's "more sharp"?
[15:29] <acerspyro> It happens faster?
[15:29] <AlexPortable> no
[15:29] <AlexPortable> on ubuntu it's like someone put something on my screen
[15:29] <webb1wd> daftykins im not sure mate.
[15:29] <daftykins> sounds like it's not running at your screen's native resolution
[15:29] <acerspyro> ?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> it is
[15:30] <AlexPortable> 1366x768
[15:30] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Are you sure?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:30] <acerspyro> It looks sharp here, pixel for pixel
[15:30] <webb1wd> <daftykins i did so i could get the cables better organised.
[15:30] <daftykins> webb1wd: if you boot a live session you can check your UUIDs versus what's in your /etc/fstab file to see if they need updating
[15:30] <daftykins> webb1wd: there's no reason they should have changed though
[15:30] <acerspyro> webb1wd: Please start typing the username, and then press tab instead of copy-pasting their name.
[15:31] <webb1wd> acerspyro: ok
[15:31] <AlexPortable> windows is just more crisp
[15:31] <webb1wd> daftykins: thanks i will now burn a dvd.
[15:31] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: imho, it's ugly.
[15:31] <AlexPortable> so?
[15:32] <daftykins> webb1wd: ISO on a flash drive would be nicer if you have any :)
[15:32] <acerspyro> And that's how Windows is. Crisp.
[15:32] <daftykins> AlexPortable: maybe you can take pictures, i don't understand what you mean at all, nor does anyone else it seems
[15:32] <acerspyro> It's an art style. So is Ubuntu's fade effects.
[15:32] <webb1wd> daftykins: my computer is too old for that :S.i have tried it im not sure why it doesnt boot it,its a 2005 pc.
[15:33] <daftykins> webb1wd: ah - do you remember which ubuntu version you have on there?
[15:33] <AlexPortable> hmm i need something i can compare
[15:33] <webb1wd> daftykins: yes 14.04
[15:33] <daftykins> webb1wd: good stuff.
[15:34] <daftykins> webb1wd: i'll be back shortly, if you're ready in the meantime just ask the channel that you want to compare UUIDs to /etc/fstab if you need more assistance :)
[15:34] <squinty> webb1wd:  fwiw, if your unit won't boot from usb then you might consider burning a "plop" cd which when booted first will allow the computer to boot from usb.  http://www.plop.at/en/home.html
[15:35] <Pinkie_Pylon> hi guys, having problems with sama
[15:35] <Pinkie_Pylon> samba*
[15:36] <webb1wd> squinty: wow!thanks very much i never knew about that ill certainly try it.
[15:36] <SchrodingersScat> my problem with samba is normally windows
[15:36] <Pinkie_Pylon> i think it's ubuntu in this case actually
[15:36] <Pinkie_Pylon> i have a share set up using the built-in nautilus local network share tool on my LAN
[15:36] <acerspyro> Pinkie_Pylon: Ask a real question, not an affirmation
[15:37] <AlexPortable> daftykins: http://img.nl.eu.org/EiYUpW.png
[15:37] <Pinkie_Pylon> well, can I link my askubuntu question?
[15:37] <AlexPortable> left = ubuntu, right = windows
[15:37] <AlexPortable> there is some blur over ubuntu
[15:37] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Emulator?
[15:37] <acerspyro> You could have said it, that's why, it's in no way Ubuntu'S fault.
[15:38] <ansivirus> AlexPortable, not gonna lie, I don't really see blur..
[15:38] <acerspyro> Neither do I
[15:38] <AlexPortable> what do you mean emulator?
[15:38] <daftykins> AlexPortable: it's a different level of sub pixel rendering, look into whether you can tweak it. i have no idea
[15:38] <AlexPortable> the left it's not sharp
[15:38] <acerspyro> If you like, you can change the antialiasing style for the font
[15:38] <AlexPortable> while the text on the right is
[15:39] <acerspyro> Depends on your monitor.
[15:39] <bahax> hi, is there a way to make apt-get tell me from which source it's going to install a specific package?
[15:39] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: well, i made a screenshot on windows, and one on ubuntu, and then moved them to the same machine
[15:39] <Pinkie_Pylon> here is my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/543634/problems-with-folder-permissions-using-samba
[15:39] <AlexPortable> so how does that depends on my monitor or system?
[15:39] <OerHeks> i guess that window is buzy, AlexPortable, just be patient
[15:39] <AlexPortable> buzy?
[15:39] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Ok, still, all you have to do is change your font antialiasing style
[15:40] <daftykins> AlexPortable: myself and acerspyro have already told you what's up.
[15:40] <AlexPortable> acerspyro:  how?
[15:40]  * acerspyro googles for someone else again
[15:41] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: http://superuser.com/questions/819535/what-exactly-is-the-difference-between-grayscale-and-rgba-font-anti-aliasing
[15:41] <acerspyro> look at that GUI, it's in the Compiz settings menu
[15:41] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: did you create this other user prior to creating an smb password for it?
[15:42] <P-NuT> Anyone getting this? http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7801
[15:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> shouldn't have to on 14.04 IIRC but yes, it's a unix user with the same password as the smb user
[15:42] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: and none of these systems are in homegroups on Windows? those break things
[15:42] <OerHeks> P-NuT, CentOS is not supported here.
[15:43] <Pinkie_Pylon> checking the logs for the second user I'm getting permission denied when they tried to access the folder, which is hosted in /media/james/shared
[15:43] <Pinkie_Pylon> what command can I use to give everyone read and write access to that folder?
[15:43] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: you've added both users to a group, chown'd that path to the group and allowed relevant permissions yes?
[15:44] <AlexPortable> acerspyro:  greyscale / rgb doesn't really matters
[15:44] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: try other options
[15:44] <acerspyro> *checks what Windows is using*
[15:44] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, i'm a bit crap with unix so bear with me. the unix user is in the group sambashare
[15:44] <Pinkie_Pylon> i'm just wondering if there is a unix command I can give to allow everyone access to the /shared folder
[15:45] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: pastebin the output of "ls -al /path/shared"
[15:45] <Pinkie_Pylon> this is on a home LAN anyway so not much risk
[15:45] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, will do
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> is there a GUI for upstart system services?
[15:45] <squinty> Pinkie_Pylon:  might want to consider installing and checking out   system-config-samba
[15:45] <geirha> Pinkie_Pylon: add all users you consider "everyone" to that group. Do NOT make it world writable
[15:45] <daftykins> first off stop saying unix :P, second - it'd be samba that can share as guest only, not permissions
[15:45] <rashkov> Anyone know what purpose dnsmasq serves in Ubuntu? It seems like it could be used as a DHCP server or for DNS caching. However DHCP isn't configured and its DNS cache is turned off. It seems to have something to do with NetworkManager but I don't know what purpose it would serve there.
[15:45] <White_Cat> Mail delivery failed via SMTP server 'localhost'.
[15:45] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: ^
[15:45] <White_Cat> is this normal?
[15:46] <White_Cat> I am using sudo apt-get install postfix
[15:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> http://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM
[15:47] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: which other options?
[15:47] <acerspyro> idk not on my computer right now
[15:47] <acerspyro> :D
[15:48] <AlexPortable> ah
[15:48] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Go explore and figure it out?
[15:48] <AlexPortable> ok
[15:48] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM
[15:48] <AlexPortable> when installing ubuntu, do i have to choose UEFI or BIOS?
[15:48] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: yeah so you've got a permission and group mess there
[15:48] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Depends on your BIOS type
[15:49] <Pinkie_Pylon> thought as much, resulted from failed attempts to grant access
[15:49] <acerspyro> Newer computers usually use UEFI
[15:49] <acerspyro> if you don't pick the right one, it usually won't boot
[15:49] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, thought so. is there a command that will soft it out?
[15:49] <average> http://i.imgur.com/o9hbYA9.jpg
[15:49] <acerspyro> Oh, another question, is it possible to do BIOS upgrades under Linux?
[15:49] <average> that's really probably the worst photo I've seen
[15:49] <acerspyro> average: lol
[15:49] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: add your two users to a group, chown the path with that group, then set the group permissions to allow read and write as appropriate
[15:50] <OerHeks> wrong channel, average
[15:50] <average> OerHeks: i won't insist on that picture..
[15:50] <acerspyro> average: Run, people be gettin' mad!
[15:50] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: first up "sudo chown -R user:group /media/james/shared" would bea good start
[15:50] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: well i have both
[15:50] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: ?
[15:50] <average> acerspyro: i'm not running
[15:50] <AlexPortable> i can choose between uefi and bios boot
[15:50] <average> acerspyro: so did you see the pic. did you like it ?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !ot | average
[15:51] <OerHeks> !ot > average
[15:51] <daftykins> average: you're off topic, leave please.
[15:51] <acerspyro> haha
[15:51] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: in your BIOS, you mean?
[15:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, done
[15:51] <average> well, if you say it's so.. i guess i have to pack my bags and go
[15:52] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: you substituted 'user' and 'group' appropriately yeah?
[15:52] <acerspyro> jack: We clearly saw that
[15:52] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: in the multiboot selection menu
[15:52] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: In Ubuntu?
[15:52] <AlexPortable> no in my computer
[15:52] <Guest20817> daftykins: did you see what i did there ? ^^
[15:52] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, i used the group sambashare and did the command both for myself and the other user that i'm using
[15:52] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Very descriptive
[15:52] <AlexPortable> when i turn it on i can choose: UEFI: USBSTICK 4GB and BIOS: USBSTICK 4GB
[15:52] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, and then rebooted smbd and nmbd
[15:53] <acerspyro> Oh, I thought you were wondering what kind of GRUB to install, mape yourself clear
[15:53] <acerspyro> make*
[15:53] <acerspyro> pick whichever you want
[15:53] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, so what did you choose last time?
[15:53] <acerspyro> flip a coin
[15:53] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: command? you can't haha, you can't set two different users on the same path. the users must be *members* of the group
[15:53] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: last time i didn't had uefi
[15:53] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: also on my other laptop with uefi it went wrong
[15:53] <OerHeks> !uefi
[15:53] <OerHeks> read that manual first i guess
[15:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, what should I do if I have two users that want to have the same permissions for the same folder then?
[15:54] <acerspyro> OerHeks: ty
[15:54] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: what i just said above.
[15:54] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, so do I leave the user blank? just do sudo chown -R :sambashare /path
[15:54] <acerspyro> I would love to fix my maximized window problem someday...
[15:55] <Pinkie_Pylon> both users are members of the group
[15:55] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: just see if you can get in your test folder now. my battery's going so i'll be back shortly
[15:56] <AlexPortable> " If the BIOS is set up to boot the CD in EFI mode, then you will see the screen below: "
[15:56] <AlexPortable> i have that
[15:56] <AlexPortable> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[15:57] <daftykins> AlexPortable: you've been in here for weeks, surely you have an install already
[15:57] <AlexPortable> daftykins: yes, surely on an old pc
[15:57] <Guest93716> Hello All! Is there anyway I can have a different background for each of my monitors in ubuntu??
[15:57] <AlexPortable> where i don't have to deal with UEFI crap
[15:58] <acerspyro> Guest93716: I think so
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: make your life easy and install ubuntu on single hd
[15:58] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: well then how can i run battlefield 3?
[15:58] <acerspyro> Guest93716: or not? Display settings?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: make another box for gaming only
[15:59] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, still no joy i'm afraid
[15:59] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: give me the money for it
[15:59] <AlexPortable> also i't s annoying to move 2 laptops along to school
[16:00] <dreamercountry> hi
[16:00] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: ok collect logs together and pastebin relevant sections and i'll bbl
[16:00] <whoppaz13> acerspyro: I looked into display settings and it only lets me have 1 background for all my monitors =/
[16:00] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, gotcha
[16:00] <acerspyro> whoppaz13: Hm. I know it's possible on KDE, but on GNOME...
[16:00] <dreamercountry> How about the chatroom ?
[16:01] <whoppaz13> acerspyro:  you think there might be a package or somehting out there?? I'm using Unity
[16:01] <acerspyro> whoppaz13: I found Nitrogen with a quick google
[16:01] <acerspyro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/390367/using-different-wallpapers-on-multiple-monitors-gnome-2-compiz
[16:02] <whoppaz13> acerspyro: ok cool I'll try that out then.  Thanks =)
[16:02] <acerspyro> np
[16:03] <AlexPortable> "This computer currently has no detected operating system. What would you like to do?"
[16:03] <acerspyro> "find one"
[16:04] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: how do i tell it that?
[16:04] <acerspyro> You don't, it's a joke
[16:04] <AlexPortable> ...
[16:04] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv
[16:05] <nicola> ciao
[16:06] <entreri> hello, I would like to use Ubuntu but with TWM windows manager. How to disable the main current desktop environment and the login screen ?
[16:10] <AlexPortable> so how can I install ubuntu without removing windows 8?
[16:10] <liolin> how to change the password...
[16:10] <P_O_I_S_O_N> ubuntu is not bootup . just blank screen im seeing ? how to trouble shoot it
[16:10] <AlexPortable> liolin: sudo passwd username
[16:11] <Fleetflame> AlexPortable: do you have a DVD with the ubuntu .iso?
[16:12] <AlexPortable> live usb
[16:12] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Dual boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:13] <AlexPortable> "Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". "
[16:13] <AlexPortable> i dont have this
[16:13] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Did you create a partition ?
[16:13] <AlexPortable> no
[16:14] <AlexPortable> the problem is that im stuck with this uefi crap
[16:14] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Go to windows. Create an empty partition of at least 10gb. Boot your usb. Then select the option "do something else"
[16:14] <AlexPortable> can't I create the partition in ubuntu?
[16:15] <A1Recon> When I go to All Settings>Network>Options.... The options menu does not open up. Also the ethernet/network icon does not show up near the date. I am running ubuntu 14.04. I think the problem might be that I put in a command like "sudo apt-get uninstall *<dont-remember-name>" and this removed more than half of the stuff on my system.
[16:15] <jee1mr> You're going to install ubuntu in this partition.
[16:15] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:15] <A1Recon> How do i get them back??
[16:15] <AlexPortable> but can't i create the partition from inside ubuntu live usb
[16:16] <frodopwns> are there any passable ways to get exchange mail to work with ubuntu 14.04?
[16:16] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: No, I guess. I am not sure. Just check.
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  isnt that windows? if yes, try !wine, or a linux native program
[16:17] <nopf> frodopwns: you want to read and write mails from/to an exchange server?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> if that doesnt work*
[16:18] <frodopwns> nopf: i want to be able to accept meeting requests and have them added to a calendar like in osx and windows
[16:19] <squinty> AlexPortable:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  see what applies to you unit.  gparted is included with the live dvd.  you can prepartition with it before starting the livedvd installation proceedure
[16:19] <frodopwns> hmm, use wine to run outlook?
[16:19] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: You can.
[16:19] <AlexPortable> is it bad to partition inside the instlalation ?
[16:19] <AlexPortable> and should i use gparted or doesn't it really matters?
[16:19] <guzzi_jones> parititioning in the installation is prefered
[16:20] <guzzi_jones> pretty robust partitioner
[16:20] <AlexPortable> i don't have to make antoher uefi partition right?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  orage calendar can do that
[16:20] <sunee> need help.my pc takes to much time start up.how to fix it?
[16:21] <guzzi_jones> i do not know what uefi is
[16:21] <AlexPortable> guzzi_jones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> sunee  what ubuntu release? what is "too much time"?
[16:21] <frodopwns> MonkeyDust: cool i will check it out
[16:22] <guzzi_jones> alexportable, it seems like an interface to the disk instead of bios
[16:22] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:22] <frodopwns> MonkeyDust: can that run in unity? says its for xfce
[16:22] <guzzi_jones> no you should be able to partition inside a uefi container i would think
[16:22] <entreri> `/join #xubuntu
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  yes, i have it, together with orage world clock
[16:23] <guzzi_jones> it should not be an issue or have any negative affects.
[16:23] <nopf> frodopwns: "I think this is one of the most prominent unsolved problems in IT" ...  more at http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/98/calendar-application-for-linux-that-plays-well-with-outlook-and-exchange
[16:23] <frodopwns> i decided to switch to a linux laptop at work but email is an issue :-(
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  nopf 's solution looks better than mine
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> sunee  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/
[16:26] <sacarlson> frodopwns: google has cool email, why would you need more than what they provide
[16:27] <frodopwns> sacarlson: I do use gmail but i need to get my work email to function within google for that to work
[16:27] <giov> !list
[16:28] <frodopwns> warez lol, havent seen that word in a while
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> frodopwns: yes they still exist :p
[16:29] <lancelot_of> hi there
[16:29] <sacarlson> wow I don't know what I did but sudenly all my keystrokes come out as thai letters accept for this pidgin app.  what combo of keystroke might have done that
[16:29] <AlexPortable> Well when in stalling ubuntu on uefi system
[16:30] <AlexPortable> what is mount point?
[16:30] <lancelot_of> i've a laptop without a middle button touchpad, how do i paste teerminal selection into other apps, such as thunderbird of firefox? Shift+Insert does not work for these applications. Ubuntu 14.04
[16:31] <sacarlson> wow I found it, so small I couldn't see it the en th at the bottom of the screen
[16:32] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: "/"
[16:32] <AlexPortable> jee1mr: not /dev/sda2 ?
[16:32] <AlexPortable> because that's where efi partition from windows is
[16:33] <sacarlson> frodopwns: what does your work use for email protocol?  like pop3?  that can also be read with gmail google mail
[16:33] <guzzi_jones> alexportable, you will need to first create a partition using gparted in order to install
[16:33] <guzzi_jones> you cannot repartition your current machine using the installer
[16:33] <frodopwns> sacarlson: exchange
[16:33] <AlexPortable> i already did guzzi_jones
[16:34] <AlexPortable> repartition using installer
[16:34] <AlexPortable> made my windows partition 130 gb smaller
[16:34] <AlexPortable> now putting an partition on the free space
[16:34] <guzzi_jones> ok.. didn't know you could do that.
[16:34] <guzzi_jones> ok so what is your question
[16:34] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Oh cool. Now click on + button below
[16:34] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:34] <AlexPortable> but it asks me for mount point
[16:34] <lancelot_of> no suggestions for me?
[16:34] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Select the type as swap. And give it as 2-4 fb
[16:35] <AlexPortable> why only 4 gb?
[16:35] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: It's swap.
[16:35] <AlexPortable> I have 8 gb internal ram
[16:36] <jee1mr> Ok.. Then select 8gb. It doesn't matter, I guess.
[16:37] <sacarlson> frodopwns: microsoft exchange can be imported into gmail, ms exchange uses standard imap or pop3 format that gmail can handle
[16:37] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: After swap is done, create a new parition with filesystem type ext4 and mount point as "/"
[16:37] <sacarlson> frodopwns: https://support.google.com/a/answer/57920?hl=en
[16:38] <sacarlson> frodopwns: but linux has other apps that can also read imap and pop3,  gmail is just my personal preference
[16:39] <julianofischer> AlexPortable jeelmr it is interesting swap having at minimum the RAM size
[16:39] <frodopwns> sacarlson: i lso need to be able to accept meeting invitations via mail
[16:39] <AlexPortable> 8 gb ram <-> 8 gb swap
[16:39] <AlexPortable> which device for boot loader installation ?
[16:39] <julianofischer> AlexPortable jeelmr in order to hibernate the computer successfully
[16:40] <AlexPortable> computer stores hibernate on swap partition?
[16:40] <Pinkie_Pylon> anyone here good with samba and permissions?
[16:40] <jee1mr> julianofischer: Oh Alright
[16:40] <AlexPortable> so i should have 16 gb swap?
[16:40] <julianofischer> yes
[16:40] <AlexPortable> ok
[16:40] <AlexPortable> and which device for boot loader installation?
[16:40] <sacarlson> frodopwns: oh maybe you have some meeting deal integrated into exchange like google has the google calender but I'm not sure if import for that is suported
[16:40] <julianofischer> I think something higher than RAM its better
[16:40] <whoppaz13> Nitrogen doesn't seem to work for the seperate backgrounds in ubuntu 14.04 and unity.  Would this work beter with either KDE or Gnome?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> whoppaz13  try it to find out
[16:42] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: samba is not my best subject but I can take a wack at it
[16:42] <alevosia> hey there
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> i'm getting issues with file permissions
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> there is logs and stuff there
[16:42] <alevosia> does anyone know the command to copy the same file to all folders in the system with a certain name?
[16:45] <alevosia> maybe creating first a file with each path to all of those folders (grep?) and then using as an input to the cp command?
[16:45] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: seems I see the permisions of what is insided shares but not what the directory it self is set to
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> alevosia  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #bash
[16:45] <alevosia> ook, thankx
[16:46] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, /hsared is set to drwxrwxrwx 6 james sambashare 4096
[16:46] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: ok
[16:47] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: and no user can see it from samba?
[16:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, one user can see the shared folder and access it and write to it etc
[16:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> the other one can only see it and can't access it through windows without getting permission denied
[16:50] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: I'm not sure.  makes more sense if windows could read it but not write it, but it an view directory but can't read or write files
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> no
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> it can't view the directory either
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> it can see it in Network>\\SERVER in windows explorer
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> there's a folder in there called "shared"
[16:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> and I can access and have full perms from one account on one machine
[16:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> and i can still see it, but can't open it or write to it on the other machine using the other user account
[16:51] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: ok
[16:52] <OerHeks> Pinkie_Pylon, likely an windows issue https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/fb269dda-2cc6-40c0-8449-3c3d4c697a33/windows-7-cannot-access-samba-shares?forum=w7itpronetworking
[16:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, how come a win8 machine can access it then?
[16:53] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: nope it's too late and had too many beers.  I personly prefer file sharing with ssh as it's never givin me the problems I've had with samba
[16:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, i'm getting chdir permission denied in the samba logs
[16:53] <sacarlson> OerHeks: from what user name?
[16:54] <OerHeks> Pinkie_Pylon, so it is a windows7 issue
[16:54] <sacarlson> OerHeks: back in the days I recall I had to set samba config to force the windows box to be a certain user as they don' t have user names like linux
[16:54] <OerHeks> maybe workgroup ?
[16:54] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, i will try the marked answer in that thread brb
[16:55] <entreri> hey there, how to disable a service with upstart ???
[16:55] <entreri> I want to disable the desktop environment from booting
[16:56] <entreri> why is it so obscure ?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> entreri: i found a handy package to enable/disable services, but not all system services
[16:57] <SarumanPuissant> Ubuntu is bloated with malware, it has just been proved. Please act.
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | entreri
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> SarumanPuissant: proved by whom?
[16:57] <imbezol> entreri: it seems like they're half way through switching from initv to systemd so half the stuff is in one spot half in the other
[16:58] <SarumanPuissant> lotuspsychje: Bruce Schneier
[16:58] <imbezol> entreri: and the tools that were used to config startup services have mostly been made obsolete
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> SarumanPuissant: url?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> SarumanPuissant  please bring your sources and proof to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: do you know any GUI for upstart?
[16:58] <SarumanPuissant> I will as soon as OP upload the content
[16:59] <sacarlson> entreri: it's best you tell us what app you want to disable as there is two basic upstart methods now ,  the old and the new.  so depening on the age of some apps it could be setup with /etc/init or etc/init.d methods
[16:59] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, no change, do those things need a reboot to work?
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i also interested in this issue and found no way to disable CUPS yet
[17:00] <harovali> hi, I've installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit in a 2gb of ram machine. However, the 'free' command acknowledges 1.5gb. I thought I 'd have these sort of problems with a 32 bit version, but not with a 64 bit. Any hint is welcome
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i already tryed remove from update-rc.d but no luck, still shows running in pstree
[17:00] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: did you try echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override
[17:01] <daftykins> harovali: "cat /proc/meminfo" would be more relevant there
[17:01] <entreri> sacarlson: I just wanted to disable the Desktop environment, xfce for me right now
[17:01] <SarumanPuissant> ramène toi nW44b !!
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: just did the command, ill check next boot
[17:01] <sacarlson> entreri: oh ok so you want it to run like a linux server in text mode?
[17:01] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: did you reboot or stop the service after? i don't think telling it not to start by default will actually stop the running service
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: yes i rebooted after
[17:02] <Guest53052> Is Ubuntu-Gnome known to be broken? I have terrible issues with getting X to display anything but a black screen.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: but i did the 'remove' command from update-rc.d, not the upstart manual trick
[17:03] <entreri> sacarlson: I want to get rid of the desktop environment and the login screen and replace it with manually starting up Xorg with a lightweight window manager
[17:03] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:03] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | NOOO WAAA
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i was looking for something easy GUI to disable services
[17:03] <sacarlson> entreri: you might try update-rc.d -f xdm remove  see if that does the trick
[17:04] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:04] <sacarlson> entreri: oh wait don't do what I just said then
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> entreri: why not just install your wanted Wm and start grub with 'quiet splash' off
[17:04] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: well i'd like to hear the official answer on how to control services from someone at ubuntu too. my experience is that it's currently very disjointed and truthfully a mess.. but then i may not be looking in the right spot
[17:05] <squinty> text
[17:05] <sweeb> Hey entreri you could add [[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
[17:05] <OerHeks> !patience > HFSPLUS
[17:05] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:05] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: i miss /etc/init.d/ and /etc/inittab
[17:05] <sweeb> to your bashrc or zshrc
[17:05] <sacarlson> entreri: I'm not sure what this lightweight window manager  is,  so you want to replace xfe not just stop it then
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i think the newest way for ubuntu is the upstart way..but looks complex to me
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i found most services in jobs-admin package
[17:06] <imbezol> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: yes also seen that one, but very complex to understand
[17:07] <imbezol> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: if you find a nice package to easy disable/enable lemme know :p
[17:07] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: there is basicly only two upstart like methods unless it's a network related process then it might be a bit different
[17:08] <entreri> sacarlson: I would like to boot in command line, and startx myself with a proper .xinitrc (where I can put my startup commands in for X server)
[17:08] <Guest53052> I'd love it if I could get some help to fix my Xorg. I think specifically I might need a way to reconfigure Xorg from a tty, since that's all I have. But I'm really not sure.
[17:08] <sacarlson> entreri: oh ok if thats the case then my method above should work to get you to pre X server mode at boot
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i just wanted to tweak my system for unwanted services at boot, as this is a netbook i dont need cups printing
[17:10] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ya there should be some gui that also can take care of a bunch of those unneeded processes.  I just don't recall the gui packages name
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | sacarlson
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: unfortunatly cups does not show enabled on there
[17:10] <EnginA> is there a recommended document to make ubuntu least memory intensive? I have 2g of memory on this laptop and all I want is to use it as a set top box (like kiosk). Any recommended guidelines? (the doc i found for less memory usage was from 2005)
[17:11] <EnginA> I want to launch an app upon reboot and that's all
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !swap | EnginA
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> EnginA  try a light DE like xfce or lxde
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | EnginA
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> EnginA: also look into swappiness tweak
[17:11] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: so I guess cups moved to the new upstart method that this app hasn't grown into yet maybe
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i think thats the logic indeed
[17:12] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I just installed your jobs app and I'm checking it out now
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: maybe ubuntu philosophy is any pc will need at least printing?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> EnginA  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/
[17:12] <Guest53052> My situation in case anyone might care: I bought a GTX970. It needed a new driver to function. I installed the Nvidia one. After that, I could no longer get Xorg to show anything but a black screen. Tried lots of things. Gave up. Upgraded to 14.10. Installed latest Nvidia driver right away. Good for one boot, worked as it should. Shut down, started up, black screen. I took the card out and tried to use the onboard, still black screen.
[17:13] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ha ha no I don't need it eather so I'll try disable it also
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: tnx for checking
[17:13] <fux8989> hi everyone :)
[17:13] <Guest53052> But I'm not sure if Xorg even knows it's supposed to use the onboard graphics. I don't know how to tell it to do that. I tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure it does anything. Changing the driver to intel or vesa does nothing it seems.
[17:14] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: from a glance it looks to only support the /etc/init.d group of upstart (the old method) do apps you see in /etc/init  will probly not be supported with that
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: makes sense
[17:15] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes and I also note that the cups app is seen in /etc/init  the new upstart method
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: so we need a gui for /etc/init, lets google that stuff :p
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[17:17] <Guest53052> Well, maybe someone could at least tell if if it's supposed to be possible to remove a GPU and start using the onboard one without any mucking around. Just a yes or no.
[17:17] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ya a more advanced gui that supports both the old and the new
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: ls /etc/init/*.conf to lis them
[17:19] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I just performed the terminal method to disalbe cups but it also required sudo su; echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override ; to do it
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: also just did that one, lets check next boot
[17:19] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes I already looked in that directory. so now find a gui to do it instead of the text method
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: would be interesting
[17:20] <squinty> Guest53052:  rename the xorg.conf file to get it out of the way.  try using the nomodeset parameter in the grub bootup screen. see if you can get to a desktop
[17:20] <haidora> hey there i am new for linux but i know how to use kali linux but now i am taking ubuntu instead of windows 8.1 any advices?
[17:20] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone have the correct setting for AWStats in their apache config files? I can't get the icons directory to work correctly.
[17:20] <squinty> !nomodeset > squinty
[17:21] <Guest53052> squinty, should Xorg work without xorg.conf?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> !info sysv-rc-conf | sacarlson that seems also the old method
[17:21] <pub> hi there.. can anyone help me to set a permanent user name and password in irc
[17:22] <squinty> !nomodeset | Guest53052
[17:22] <sacarlson> entreri: did you try update-rc.d -f xdm  to disable your X desktop?
[17:22] <haidora> what is the best software centre for ubuntu?????
[17:22] <squinty> Guest53052:  for most cases, afaik, these days xorg.conf is not usually needed
[17:22] <Guest53052> squinty, thing is, it worked for one boot. But only one. Now I'm on the Intel onboard which works "out of the box" on this live USB stick, but only gives black screen when trying to boot from disk.
[17:22] <squinty> haidora:  you desktop software center
[17:23] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: so you tried sysv-rc-conf already to verify it's also the old stuf?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: yep, cups shows disabled there also
[17:23] <squinty> Guest53052:  not into playing the "the thing is game..." you asked a question and I responded. try the suggestion or not...up to you
[17:23] <Guest53052> squinty, sorry for questioning you. It's just that I have to leave the chat if I'm going to try anything.
[17:24] <haidora> i need a software centre than can download more than one thing at the same time and in high speed
[17:24] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: oh but I didn't see cups in that gui that I installed, only stuf I saw in /etc/init.d was visable at all
[17:24] <Guest53052> All righty then...
[17:25] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: if you see cups in it then it must be the new upstart method gui
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: think you can choose 'hidden services' also
[17:25] <M0thra> haidora: the software center can queue up things that will download
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: im not sure, because it shows disabled, and pstree shows it running
[17:26] <entreri> sacarlson: I will try it tonight at home, I'm at work : P
[17:26] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> if in my /boot folder, I see grub instead of grub2.  Does that mean I installed the wrong one when I tried to do a boot repair
[17:26] <sacarlson> entreri: ok
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !info rcconf | sacarlson
[17:27] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: no I don't see it here in jobs-admin any place.  I'll take a look at your sysv-rc-conf since you say you can see cups
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: that1 also shows cups disabled
[17:28] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does anyone know this?
[17:30] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: so after a tonne of reading it seems this is the official way
[17:30] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: echo "manual" >> /etc/init/cups.override
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: tnx and that will work for the whole list of /etc/init?
[17:31] <Loshki> !grub2
[17:31] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: well this rcconf is showing cups and also mysql but both are shown as disabled and I know mysql is active so something is wrong with this one
[17:32] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: i believe so.. you're basically telling it that the service with /etc/init/cups.conf should also read the override file, and set the the startup method to manual only
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: lets stick with imbezol and maybe no GUI method out yet...
[17:32] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: initctl status cups
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ initctl status cups
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> initctl: Unknown job: cups
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: initctl stop cups
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: hmm.. that's interesting
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: ps fauxw | grep cups
[17:33] <imbezol> is it running?
[17:33] <sacarlson> imbezol: lotuspsychje well if nothing works then I should write one as it should not be hard to do
[17:33] <sacarlson> or at least fix some of these that should work
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: pstree shows cups and cups-browsed running
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: fauxw shows whole list
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> cups/notifier
[17:36] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: what do you get if you do "ls -ld /etc/init/cups*"
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  525 apr  8  2014 /etc/init/cups-browsed.conf
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1815 apr 10  2014 /etc/init/cups.conf
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    7 okt 30 18:01 /etc/init/cups.override
[17:37] <Dragin> How do I give myself permission to open and write to a file?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> imbezol, sacarlson try service --status-all
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: cups + cups-browsed running both +
[17:40] <squinty> Dragin:  sudo nano <name of file>   or  gksu gedit <name of file>   latter is for gui apps  is one way
[17:40] <Dragin> thanks
[17:40] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: mysql in service --status-all shows mysql as ?  so it doesn't know?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: not sure what the ? is :p but + will be running for sure
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: maybe waiting ?
[17:41] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: just tried sudo sysv-rc-conf and it's the same with mysql shows as disabled, so not correct
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: indeed
[17:42] <webb1wd> hello guys.I booted with the live cd of ubuntu.I tried mounting /dev/sda/ with -t auto but it wouldnt mount then i tried with ext4,but nothing it wouldnt mount then i tried lsblk and at the fstype collum it didnt list anything only at the sdb1 which i succesfully mounted,after.Then i tried gdisk -l and it did list the 5 partitions on /dev/sda.What should i do to mount the disk?It also said the gpt table is damaged on /dev/sda but it w
[17:42] <Nokiabot> Are drivers available foq gma 3600 ?
[17:42] <webb1wd> ...that i can give it a file type.
[17:43] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I think it might be because of something I did to networking that has messed it up.  it might be my custom mods make it not work
[17:43] <dominik_> hello guys, i have a question. Can u tell me how to use data from --inpputbox?
[17:43] <dominik_> --inputbox*
[17:43] <Nokiabot> Powervr such a pain on linux
[17:43] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Way more details needed, including what is all there and end goal.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson, imbezol i think imbezol is right about this: https://scottlinux.com/2013/10/30/starting-and-stopping-services-at-boot-on-ubuntu-with-upstart/
[17:46] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes I'm confident that the term method works.  I just thought it strange in this day in age that we would have to resort to it without a gui at hand.  I think the gui also works in most cases
[17:46] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will give more details,my end goal is to mount the sda so i can see my fstab file.That is because i get "gave up waiting for root device"  when i boot ubuntu,it was saying something about uuid so i thought beacuase i installed new hdd maybe uuid changed.
[17:46] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: i didnt give more details,just end goal
[17:46] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, sda is the HD you want o mount the partition it is in.
[17:47] <bubbasaures> to*
[17:47] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: strange that initctl status cups shows nothing for you
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i tryed the 'remove' way from update-rc.d few days ago, maybe thats why?
[17:47] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:47] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Easier to change in the booted ubuntu, is it not booting?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: 14.04 64bit
[17:48] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: it has 5 partitions sda1,2,3,4,5....i want to mount sda2 when i try to mount  with mount it says it doesnt exist.
[17:48] <squinty> webb1wd:  maybe bring up Disks and see if it will mount from there
[17:49] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, From a live if still there it should show in it's home, you would have to chroot to it, or root the fstab mount to change, easier done on a booted OS, does it boot?
[17:49] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: it is booting but then im getting something that http://i.stack.imgur.com/hTLuo.jpg except that dev/mapper/... isnt there on my it says something with uuid which is the hdd id.
[17:50] <webb1wd> squinty: i will try that thanks!
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !info systemd-gui
[17:53] <haidora> what is best apps for ubuntu?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> haidora: what do you need?
[17:54] <vj> looking for a free dnla server on ubuntu. Any gud choices that support transcoding?
[17:54] <haidora> ia m new to ubuntu and replaced windows with it
[17:54] <haidora> i need some useful apps like xchat
[17:55] <bubbasaures> haidora, look in the ubuntu software center for apps.
[17:55] <haidora> can i download more than one app at the same time in ubuntu software centre??
[17:55] <bubbasaures> haidora, In general any app in linux or most have other versions, E.G video media players.
[17:56] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: sorry mate but i cant understand what you mean by "in its home".:S
[17:57] <bubbasaures> haidora, I would learn apt-get for installing you install as much as you want at one time.
[17:57] <haidora> ok thanks
[17:58] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Home is in the left panel, a file structure not rooted, has a left side panel that should show the internal hard drives partitions
[17:58] <vj> Hi, I am new to ubuntu and looking for a dnla compliant media server on ubuntu
[17:59] <vj> i am running ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[17:59] <bubbasaures> haidora, An example would be two things installed  sudo apt-get install xchat vlc
[17:59] <l0rdn1x> vj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1755/what-dlna-server-to-choose
[18:00] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will look it.
[18:01] <haidora> is it necessary to update my ubuntu 13.10 to latest version???????????????
[18:01] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Do you have what ever is there backed up, prepared for any failure?
[18:01] <vj> 10rdn1x: Thanks, media-tomb looks good to me
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> hello all
[18:01] <bubbasaures> haidora, Yeah 13.10 is eol.
[18:01] <bubbasaures> !eol | haidora look at eol upgrade
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I am attempting to rotate my CLI 90' because I have a monitor that I turn on its side
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> how would I do that?
[18:03] <haidora> is there a better program than photoshop??????for editing images??
[18:03] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, My first thought was xrandr try this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95812/how-can-i-rotate-my-display-in-the-most-easy-way
[18:04] <digisus> 3okfn
[18:04] <bubbasaures> just guessing however
[18:04] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: well i dont i wasnt expecting that i would get this error, i have a new hdd, i will try to back things up.Do you have any recommendations for software?clonezilla?
[18:04] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> bubbasaures, Thanks will check this out
[18:04] <sacarlson> haidora: I'm not sure it's better but very similar call gimp,  but also inkscape is cool with features that photoshop doesn't even have
[18:05] <haidora> how to connect to wifi network using wps in ubuntu?
[18:05] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, For an mirror clone I use clonezilla, and in ubuntu rsync to keep home up to date, all on externals. Lots of imaging options however.
[18:05] <sacarlson> haidora: nework-manager supports it
[18:06] <haidora> thanks this is the most useful message since i have installed xchat
[18:07] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Your issue is a bit hard to understand exactly, you mention a gpt table somewhere, and the exact chain of events is not clear.
[18:08] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: yes i know,i came here earlier and i had said things better.
[18:09] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Not the easiest place to do all that. ;)
[18:10] <haidora> how to run network-manager from terminal???
[18:11] <daftykins> haidora: for what purpose?
[18:11] <bubbasaures> haidora, Is this a wireless issue, do you reach the net plugged in?
[18:11] <webb1wd> bubbasaures:  ok
[18:12] <haidora> my wierless is working fine but i want to know how to connect to a wifi using wps pin
[18:12] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, I would include a pastebin of the setup with sudo parted -l in your inquiry, I would like to see it if possible.
[18:13] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will now go boot with live cd,im on another pc.
[18:14] <bynarie> wud up
[18:14] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Can you be on the channel from that live, that in general is best.
[18:15] <bubbasaures> or at least have access quickly
[18:15] <ki7mt> hello all, I'm at remote locate trying to fix a dualboot laptop Debian 7 / Ubuntu 14.04 Debian boots ok, but the Ubuntu image keeps dumping into a low graphics error screen. Whenever I try to update grub ( I suspect the UUID is hosed up in fstab), fsck just hangs up. Theres also an error on the boot splash stating the UUID is not mounted yet. Any Ideas how to resolve this?
[18:16] <haidora> help how to launch network-manager from terminal?
[18:16] <bubbasaures> ki7mt, Updating grub wont change the graphics.
[18:17] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: i will have quick access the other pc is slow with mozilla cause it live cd.
[18:17] <ki7mt> bubbasaures, Yes, I know, but I can't get into a r/w partition as the fsck keeps hangin up, so I thought updateing grub may fix that, but wasn't sure.
[18:17] <daftykins> ki7mt: are you fsck'ing from a live session?
[18:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: have you checked the disk is ok from its' SMART info?
[18:18] <ki7mt> daftykins, No, I dont have access to a CD here.
[18:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok i would not try and fsck via this means. you need bootable media
[18:18] <daftykins> or do it from debian
[18:19] <ki7mt> daftykins, ok, well I can boot int the Debian side just fine if that helps.
[18:19] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok, it'd be nice to confirm the disk is healthy before proceeding with the fsck.
[18:20] <Filthy> if you are going to fsck with debian wear a jiffy
[18:20] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, how to proceed ? /dev/sda1 is Debian, sev/sda3 is ubuntu  and /dev/sda5 is swap
[18:20] <daftykins> that's not helpful, Filthy.
[18:20] <ki7mt> .. /dev/sda3 ..
[18:20] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: hi
[18:20] <daftykins> ki7mt: get smartmontools installed under debian and run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" to check the SMART output is fine
[18:20] <givello> Hey there, I was around the previous two day for a freeze at boot. I have new information and could use some advice
[18:20] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: im talking from the ubuntu machine.
[18:21] <givello> I finally found a way to get the system to output the errors encountered during boot
[18:21] <AlexPortable> Why isn't screencloud in the repos anymore?
[18:21] <givello> Which necessitated a removal of $vthandoff and adding text --verbose nomodeset nosplash in the boot line
[18:22] <givello> And the result is that it stops right after printing loading initial ramdisk
[18:22] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, installing
[18:22] <givello> Any advice?
[18:22] <sanan> привет
[18:22] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: here is my parted -l paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8749968/
[18:24] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> bubbasaures, Thanks that worked
[18:24] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> that threw my touch 90' off now ;)
[18:24] <ki7mt> daftykins, Only thing of interest, it spit back power on lifetime message.
[18:25] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, Cool, no problem.
[18:25] <daftykins> ki7mt: i'm afraid i can't follow that sentence at all. if you could pastebin the smartctl output that would be helpful
[18:26] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, So I see one HD, 1 TB, any others?
[18:26] <ki7mt> daftykins, Sri, the only Error Message presented was Error 81, at disk power-on lifetime: 31136 hours (1297 days + 18 houts )
[18:26] <ki7mt> daftykins, the rest looked ok
[18:26] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, Ah, not sure on the touch part, heh.
[18:26] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: that is sdb,sda it says "Error: Invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/sda "
[18:27] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: and i also have a new one unplugged now.
[18:27] <daftykins> ki7mt: can you not pastebin it anyway? not sure if debian has the package 'pastebinit'
[18:27] <ki7mt> daftykins, I'll check
[18:27] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I would see what sda looks like in gparted on the live.
[18:28] <bubbasaures> the sda HD
[18:28] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: so to burn gparted on cd and then boot from it?
[18:28] <haidora> can u name me the best kali group?????
[18:28] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:28] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, gparted is on the live.
[18:29] <ki7mt> daftykins, Im going to long into IRC from the Debian box, make this easier. It has pastebinit.
[18:29] <webb1nd> bubbasaures:i understand now okay.
[18:29] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I just wonder if that HD shows anything, what was on there exactly?
[18:29] <HaaPut> "Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing
[18:30] <ki7mt> daftykins, http://paste.debian.net/129467/
[18:30] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: there was /home and /
[18:30] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: also swap
[18:30] <linus_> webb1nd: can you help me sir
[18:30] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Any windows, ntfs...etc?
[18:31] <bubbasaures> linus_, Wait for help, don't ask randomly.
[18:31] <daftykins> ki7mt: that disk is toast, see lines 61 and 72
[18:31] <daftykins> ki7mt: copy the data off onto another drive from all OSs and replace it
[18:31] <webb1nd> webb1nd: no,i was using it right before i installed the new hdd.I booted it up yesterday.
[18:31] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Ya, I have to do some research now.  This will be my first touch screen project and I need to do it 90' rotated ;)
[18:31] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[18:31] <linus_> bubbasaures: how do I get in line?
[18:31] <webb1nd> webb1nd: and sure it didnt have any ntfs partitions
[18:32] <bubbasaures> linus_, No line, it is just you state your issue, and any one who wants to and knows the answers talks with you is all.
[18:32] <ki7mt> daftykins, Is this due to age or something or just a general failure ?
[18:33] <daftykins> ki7mt: could be both, bad sectors can be due to a laptop that's dropped, general failure of heads coming in contact with platters, many things really
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <HaaPut> "Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing
[18:33] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, I guess the the section that the Debian is on must be ok, as that's what Im on now.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, sda was a gpt setup as well? This a former windows uefi bios?
[18:34] <HaaPut> anybody got any ideas what may be the reason
[18:34] <ansivirus> linus_, what version of Ubuntu. (and no need to flood the question multiple times)
[18:34] <squinty> linus_:  read!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[18:34] <linus_> Ubuntu 12.04 :ansivirus
[18:34] <daftykins> ki7mt: it may be, but this issue may very well get worse, so you need to consider this disk dead and backup immediately
[18:35] <ki7mt> daftykins, Yup understand. The only thing of value on the Ubuntu partition is the GPG keys.
[18:35] <ansivirus> linus_, what are you trying to set it to?
[18:36] <linus_> ansivirus: I have this in /etc/default/locale : LANG=en_US.utf8
[18:36] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: I had moved it from a windows pc to this pc.:S the sda.Also it is gpt system.
[18:36] <ki7mt> daftykins, I've already backed up most of user directory. Just wondering if I can get keys off it before scrapping it.
[18:37] <haidora> how to make a linux app??
[18:37] <daftykins> ki7mt: yeah, just mount the volumes read-only and perform small tasks one at a time - so you don't lose too much if it freezes up
[18:37] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750150/
[18:37] <ansivirus> linus_, in /etc/default/local put LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE="en_US:en"   then in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local put en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8  then issue command locale-gen and init 6 to reboot
[18:38] <OerHeks> haidora, make a program, compile it
[18:39] <haidora> i want to know how to make a program?
[18:39] <OerHeks> haidora, choose the programming language first, then do it
[18:40] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I would take your setup to someone who knows this stuff. It is not beyond help here, or on forums but needs a clear outline. I don't see that happening here is all.
[18:40] <haidora> did you try to make one?
[18:42] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: ok bubbasaures im glad for helping me out.Do you suggest posting on forums?
[18:42] <squinty> haidora: google for articles similar to the following  http://www.opensourceforu.com/2010/05/write-your-next-program-on-linux/
[18:43] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Do you have any friends who know this area well?
[18:43] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: no i dont.
[18:44] <Marasgeon> greetings everyone
[18:44] <linus_> ansivirus: when I run "locale" I get "LANG=", so it doesn't work
[18:45] <HaaPut> anyone any clue why my tracker-extract keeps crashing
[18:45] <Marasgeon> I have an internal card reader on my laptop, it can read SD cards but not SDHC, can I make it work somehow?
[18:45] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Ah, I can't help is all, here might be best than, live help that can get the needed info from you.
[18:46] <bubbasaures> HaaPut, Have you looked at the man
[18:47] <bubbasaures> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/tracker-extract.1.html
[18:47] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, see the specs of your vendor, max capacity readable etc etc
[18:48] <linus_> ansivirus: I did everything you said it didn't work help me out please
[18:48] <Gl-l0ST> hi
[18:49] <HaaPut> yeah but what does man page have to do with it crashing repeatedly bubbasaures
[18:50] <OerHeks> linus_, systemsettings > languagesupport > regional settings
[18:50] <linus_> OerHeks: I run server version, on command line
[18:50] <webb1nd> bubbasaures:I cant understand you mate.
[18:50] <Soul-Sing> nou en?
[18:51] <OerHeks> linus_, did you logout/login to let the changes take effect?
[18:51] <bubbasaures> HaaPut, I just noticed a time on it's running, not familiar with it so wondering.
[18:51] <linus_> OerHeks: yes I did everything perfectly
[18:51] <kasunbg> hi, i recently upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04.. The upgrade reported a failure halfway through, and then asked me to continue `dpkg --configure -a`.  I have not restarted the machine yet.. Can I have some help locating the error log, so you I can show it to you please?
[18:51] <Marasgeon> OarHeks: What you mean vendor?
[18:52] <Marasgeon> OerHeks: What you mean vendor?
[18:52] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, the maker of your machine
[18:52] <Marasgeon> OerHeks: so there is no command or program that can made my reader recognize the SDHC cards?
[18:53] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Just keep trying here, someone eventually will get more help for you.
[18:53] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, it is a harware limit, not software, or does that cardreader work well with SDHC cards in windows ?
[18:53] <Scorppp> Bonsoir
[18:53] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: ok
[18:54] <Marasgeon> OerHeks, yes it does
[18:54] <kasunbg> the upgraded was from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04. First step happened flawlessly.. but the 2nd reported failures..
[18:54] <belgianguy> hello, sometimes my browser (Chrome) is able to defeat the login screen after the screen dims
[18:54] <belgianguy> I'm on 14.10
[18:54] <belgianguy> but it's done it before
[18:55] <belgianguy> I wonder how that is possible
[18:55] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, does ubuntu read sd cards well?
[18:55] <Marasgeon> yes
[18:55] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu 12.04 server version, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:55] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, then i have no clue
[18:55] <belgianguy> It usually happens when playing full screen flash video
[18:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[18:56] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, After running 'dpkg --configure -a' what happened?
[18:56] <linus_> OerHeks: I followed those instructions but this happened https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni
[18:56] <HaaPut> bubbasaures it takes input from stdin so I guess it will wait for 30 seconds for input before quitting
[18:57] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, that went fine.. at the end it warned the upgrade didn't happen properly, so the system might be unstable.
[18:58] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i'm yet to restart the machine.. Everything else seem to work fine. Suspend, and waking up also works fine
[18:58] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Ah, were or are you backed up off the drive, or somewhere?
[18:59] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, nope.. but i have a separate root partition..
[18:59] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, I would use a the sudo apt-get -f install command if needed at any failure point to see if any installs need finishing.
[19:00] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:00] <OerHeks> linus_, if i follow the good manual, sudo locale-gen && sudo locale-gen en_US.utf8 #and reboot
[19:01] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Kinda a foolish upgrade really, okay if your backed up, with a separate home you could have just installed 14.04
[19:01] <linus_> OerHeks: I already did that, it doesn't work, it says up-to-date anyway
[19:02] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, hmm.. yea.. but i wanted to keep the configuration files of apache2 etc.
[19:02] <linus_> OerHeks: how do I see if it works I run locale and see LANG=en_US right, but I see LANG= ...
[19:03] <OerHeks> linus_, just type 'locale'
[19:03] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, would apt-get -f install have any bad side-effects.. i once removed ubuntu-desktop while trying to remove some qt libs <<banging-the-head>>.. so, wanted to know there won't be mishaps like that
[19:03] <linus_> OerHeks: it outputs LANG= . So i guess it doesn't work right
[19:04] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, -f install is just to finish stopped package installs. Did you use eol upgrade here?
[19:06] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i had a fresh 13.04. Last month i upgraded the EOLed 13.04 to 13.10. Then, upgraded to 14.04 y'day
[19:07] <bubbasaures> !eol | kasunbg Did you follow the eol upgrade sources.list change from eolupgrade here
[19:07] <bourne_> exit
[19:09] <kasunbg>  bubbasaures, yes.. that i had in my sources.list for 13.04. But not for 13.10 since the saucy repo is not moved to old-releases yet.
[19:10] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i just ran the said command. it didn't do anything.
[19:10] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, I reported that I have dozens of packages automatically installed that are no longer required
[19:10] <kasunbg> *it
[19:11] <AlexPortable> How can I disable someone shutting down my system?
[19:11] <bekks> AlexPortable: Who is that "someone"?
[19:12] <AlexPortable> I don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked
[19:12] <AlexPortable> bekks: someone near my pc
[19:12] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, That response "packages automatically installed that are no longer required" is part of an upgrade at the end.
[19:12] <Seveas> AlexPortable: physical access means you're screwed anyway. They can just unplug it.
[19:12] <bekks> AlexPortable: Tell him/her not to do it.
[19:12] <AlexPortable> bekks: "I didn't do anything"
[19:13] <AlexPortable> Seveas: what do you mean unplug?
[19:13] <AlexPortable> ah unplug from power
[19:13] <AlexPortable> well I won't leave my laptop unattended for 5 hours
[19:13] <AlexPortable> so that's not a problem
[19:13] <zymm> Ello Ubuntu. Anyone got any time to help me with wineasio?
[19:13] <Seveas> they can take the battery out, or press the power button
[19:14] <nuke1989> anyone familiar with cssh ? Or generally with operating many VMs with different passwords?
[19:14] <bekks> nuke1989: Whats the problem with that?
[19:14] <Seveas> nuke1989: try salt instead of ssh
[19:15] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, ok.. i probably don't have to do `apt-get autoremove`.. since it asks to remove some packages i love dearly.
[19:15] <nuke1989> well i am controlling around 18 VMs and i loging 3 times each day typing the exact commands. Problem is every VM has different password. And it takes time....
[19:16] <nuke1989> i will check salt
[19:16] <bekks> nopf: Use key based auth then.
[19:16] <pdcmoreira> hello
[19:16] <AlexPortable> Seveas: battery can't be taken out. power button does nothing
[19:16] <nuke1989> bekks, i cant....Big story...
[19:17] <bekks> nuke1989: So you have to type in the passwords.
[19:17] <nuke1989> i wonder if cssh or something similar can take passwords from a file
[19:17] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Sometimes they are removed, if 3rd party...etc,  problem here is that really you have not provided enough detail to really help. Had you come on here before, mots would say fresh install.
[19:17] <OerHeks> zymm, for wine issues you better join #winehq
[19:17] <nuke1989> bekks, yes
[19:17] <bubbasaures> most*
[19:17] <bekks> nuke1989: Taking the password from a files is "key based auth".
[19:18] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, yea.. i don't which error log i shud point u to.. the /var/log/dpkg.log doesn't seems to be useful :(
[19:18] <nuke1989> bekks, doesnt key based auth need changes on the VMs ?
[19:18] <nopf> bekks: yes, that's best in most cases :)
[19:18] <bekks> nuke1989: you need to tell each VM to accept your specific key, yes.
[19:19] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, I can't really sieve out the truth here on your issues, ;) maybe others can.
[19:19] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i will probably try a restart tomorrow, and do a fresh install if it giving me trouble at the cost all my configurations
[19:19] <nuke1989> bekks, problem is that the VMs reset every day...
[19:19] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, sure thing.. thanks anyway..
[19:19] <bekks> nuke1989: So change the template where those vms are recreated from.
[19:20] <pacho__> hi everybody
[19:20] <daftykins> greetings!
[19:20] <nuke1989> bekks, thats interesting. I will try and see if i have permission to do  that. In any case you dont think there is an automatic way for any client to take the passwords?
[19:20] <AlexPortable> How can I disable someone shutting down my system? I don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked
[19:22] <pacho__> There are some women for questioning regarding their experiences in FLOSS
[19:22] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:26] <zzecool> Anyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action
[19:27] <heroku> ubuntu 12.04 server support sucks: how do I set locale, /etc/default/locale doesn't work!!!
[19:28] <zzecool> Same problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"
[19:28] <nopf> nuke1989: i have a script that loop-mounts the vm image/filesys and checks if my public key already is in .ssh/authorized_keys ... if not, it appends it to that file
[19:28] <pbx> heroku, say more about what you did , what you expected, what happened instead.   share a shell transcript if practical
[19:29] <bekks> heroku: No need for that language. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[19:30] <linus_> pbx: see what I did here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni, bekks: I tried that!
[19:30] <nuke1989> nopf, i see. Well i will try something like that or i will try to make a script with plain old ssh command...
[19:30] <bekks> linus_: Better use that link from the official documentation.
[19:31] <linus_> bekks: I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" as described in the official documentation, but it doesn't work, that's what I am asking here
[19:32] <nopf> nuke1989: btw what is the image format? if it's 2cow (from qemu) maybe i could paste you the few lines
[19:32] <bekks> linus_: You have to update the locales after setting that.
[19:32] <zzecool> Anyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action Same problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"
[19:33] <linus_> bekks: I ran locale-gen , and it's already up-to-date, I tried that
[19:33] <ohad> Hi, If I want to apt-miror both amd64 and i386 repos, I need to write in the configuration just deb? or deb+deb-amd64+deb-i386?
[19:34] <AlexPortable> What is better, install Nvidia 740M drivers, or keep it this way?
[19:34] <bekks> linus_: Did you run: sudo update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[19:34] <AlexPortable> I have nvidia 740m and hd400
[19:34] <AlexPortable> hd4000*
[19:34] <nabblet> hi, someone botched an ubuntu install - where's that website that tells you how to recover (your windows and ubuntu)? I can't find it ... my google-foo is weak I guess :P
[19:35] <nabblet> windows was installed first, after that ubunt. then the person toyed with the partitions in windows.
[19:35] <linus_> bekks: yes I have, and I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in my /etc/default/locale, I have done everything perfectly as described in official documentation and I reboot with sudo init 6 still It doesn't work
[19:35] <bekks> nabblet: "botched an install" - what exactly happens when doing what?
[19:35] <marcus_> list!
[19:36] <jptned> Anyone active here?
[19:36] <marcus_> list/
[19:36] <bekks> linus_: Can you pastebin /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment pleasE?
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: when he tries to boot he get's grub's recovery mode. I think he messed up the partition table with windows so now grub can't find the bootloaders
[19:36] <bubbasaures> marcus_, No lists here
[19:36] <bekks> nabblet: So its time to restore your backups.
[19:36] <marcus_> ok
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: the "secondary" ones that actually boot-strap the OS's
[19:36] <jptned> Anyone with knowledge about Postfix? I'm trying to build a mail server, but it won't work. :(
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: did that. So a grub install will rediscover the partitions (and the boot loaders on it), right?
[19:37] <bekks> nabblet: Yeah.
[19:37] <nabblet> bekks: cheers :)
[19:38] <K4k> I get an error "found usr.sbin.sssd in /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain, forcing complain mode" at boot. I've configured sssd on this system with the same puppet profile as all the other systems on my network but none of them complain to my knowledge. Sssd fails to function as expected on this machine, thinking that this might be the reason. Any suggestions?
[19:39] <heroku> bekks: here's my pastebin for /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment http://pastebin.com/hhE9fxpX
[19:40] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:41] <K4k> hm, I take that back. Reading the docs on complain mode makes it sound like "permissive mode" on SELinux, that's probably not causing the issue, then.
[19:41] <OerHeks> heroku, drop the "
[19:43] <gorillaz> Anybody help how to install graphics driver for RV770 (Radeon HD 4870)
[19:44] <linus_> OerHeks: I dropped quotes now it looks like this , I run locale-gen, and sudo init 6, still it didn't work .. http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k
[19:45] <agliodbs> so, Levono Carbon vs. Asus Zenbook.  Opinions?
[19:48] <OerHeks> update-locale
[19:48] <deckard__> hello. what does a base update usually include ?
[19:49] <linus_> OerHeks: I did update-locale it has no effect
[19:50] <Sander^lap> Every time my hosts router restarts.. I loose network access at my guests.
[19:51] <Sander^lap> Do anyone know how I some how restarts virtualbox.. so the network is reset?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon in the terminal
[19:52] <gorillaz> BluesKaj open source driver?
[19:56] <ecolanirkoukkous> ubunty <2014
[19:56] <ansivirus> linus_, are you connecting via SSH to this box that you're seeing LANG=
[19:57] <linus_> ansivirus: yes ssh
[19:57] <linus_> I also use screen
[19:57] <ansivirus> in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config make sure you have UsePAM yes
[19:58] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, yes , from the repos
[19:58] <gorillaz> seems installed 0 changes
[20:00] <ansivirus> linus_, also in ~/.pam_environment make sure you have LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US
[20:01] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, then you already gave it installed
[20:01] <BluesKaj> have
[20:02] <Mightcould3> an application wants access to the keyring 'Default', but its locked. it wants a password but my password doesnt work?
[20:03] <Gl-l0ST> n the network list , i got an email in junk... verify your user name..
[20:03] <Gl-l0ST> sorry
[20:03] <gorillaz> BluesKaj huh well then its pretty bad, cuz my temps are 90 C right now
[20:03] <gorillaz> on iddle
[20:03] <gorillaz> In Windows its 45
[20:04] <Mightcould3> 90c omg shut it off
[20:04] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, whoa! definitely something not right there
[20:04] <Mightcould3> you can fry an egg on that
[20:05] <gorillaz> I can hear it pretty bad but i hope its hardware indicator sensors false info lol
[20:05] <gorillaz> >DF
[20:05] <noobieneedshelp> hi
[20:05] <noobieneedshelp> I need some help with my Ubuntu live usb
[20:06] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, desktop or :
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:06] <gorillaz> desktop
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> basically, I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed on a USB (it has to be 8.10 because of some old drivers)
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> I installed it onto my hard drive
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> I set 1GB of persistent storage when I made the usb
[20:06] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, do you have mesa-utils installed
[20:07] <linus_> ansivirus: see my updated pastebin, I followed your instructions, http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k, now LANGUAGE is set, but LANG is still empty, is that allright?
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> is there a way to move everything saved on my usb's filesystem to my hard drive?
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> drivers etc
[20:07] <gorillaz> BluesKaj mesa-utils: command not found
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> because the .deb I downloaded yesterday is no longer available
[20:07] <nabblet> bekks: everything worked out nicely :) Thanks
[20:08] <noobieneedshelp> Is there a way to move drivers from my Live USB to my installed Ubuntu system?
[20:08] <noobieneedshelp> Drivers that I have installed on my live USB
[20:08] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, sudo apt- get install mesa-utils
[20:09] <gorillaz> BluesKaj installed
[20:09] <gorillaz> reboot?
[20:09] <bekks> gorillaz: No.
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> Can someone help me with my issue?
[20:10] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: 8.10 is end of live for a long time now. Just move your personal data and reinstall a new 14.04
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> Bekks
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> I need to use 8.10
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> I don't want anything else
[20:11] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: It is unsupported.
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> I just want to move the drivers from my live usb to my system
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> how can I do that?
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> which folders?
[20:11] <Sheepolution> Hey there. I screwed up my Ubuntu quite a lot and stuff isn't working that I want to work. And reinstalling is probably the easiest and fastest way to fix all this.
[20:12] <DJones> noobieneedshelp: That won;t happen, 8.01 isn't supported for about 2-3 years
[20:12] <Sheepolution> Now the reinstallation page says: it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu without losing the content of the /home folder
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> ffs
[20:12] <bekks> Sheepolution: Only if /home is on a separate filesystem.
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> If I wanted to move drivers from my live usb to my system in 14.04
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> how would I do that?
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> would I move a folder?
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> is there an application for it?
[20:12] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: You dont have 14.04. And you cant "move drivers" that way.
[20:13] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: You have to install a supported release.
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> why?
[20:13] <Sheepolution> bekks: Oh? The page doesn't say that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[20:13] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Because 8.10 is unsupported.
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> I have to use 8.10 because the drivers have not been updated for a supported release
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> there is no other option
[20:13] <OerHeks> drivers for what?
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> my 56k modem
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> the last supported kernel was 2.6.27-7
[20:14] <Sheepolution> But it's a bit vague for me what files I keep and not.
[20:14] <DJones> noobieneedshelp: You'll nedd to contact your modem supplier
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> doesn't exist anymore
[20:14] <Sheepolution> And I'm afraid that I will keep files that might be the ones causing the problems.
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> they merged with another company
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> and no longer offer support
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> the driver works on my live usb
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> I just want to move it
[20:14] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Thats too bad, but it doesnt make your 8.10 being supported.
[20:15] <cubby_> does ubuntu server have a mail server built in, or do I need to install that?
[20:15] <cubby_> I'm a noob.
[20:15] <bekks> cubby_: you need to install it.
[20:15] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: seriously. this isn't about the version, it's about moving my drivers
[20:15] <cubby_> Thanks, bekks
[20:15] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: is there no way to move my drivers?
[20:15] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Seriously, 8.10 is out of support.
[20:15] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: No, there is no way to just "move" drivers.
[20:16] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: that's all you had to tell me. ty.
[20:16] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: I did, two times already.
[20:16] <OerHeks> what modem exactly?
[20:17] <gorillaz> BluesKaj no other workaounds?
[20:18] <alo21> hi all
[20:19] <alo21> I can't start transmission due to a bug when I added a specific .torrent file
[20:19] <alo21> how can start a new session of transmission?
[20:20] <alo21> or delete al .torrent files that are downloading in transmission?
[20:21] <K4k> OK! I give up, why can't I restart the networking service? I've added a static IP definition in /etc/network/interfaces but it won't let me restart the network daemon and the old static IP is still set on reboot
[20:22] <K4k> the static IP that it keeps setting was set during install
[20:22] <K4k> if that helps
[20:22] <gorillaz> K4k have you tried from the wingpanel?
[20:22] <netlar> Which Wacom tablets are fully compatible with Ubuntu?
[20:22] <K4k> gorillaz: what's the wingpanel?
[20:22] <gorillaz> i mean from the dropmenu Enable Networking
[20:22] <gorillaz> taskbar
[20:22] <K4k> This is a headless server, no gui
[20:23] <OerHeks> alo21, remove /home/<user>/.config/transmission/settings.json and restart transmission?
[20:23] <gorillaz> i m out
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> OerHeks: it's an Agere 11c11040
[20:23] <gorillaz> lol
[20:23] <K4k> ;)
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> I found a driver for my kernel but the download is not working
[20:23]  * K4k pops his head in to #ubuntu-server
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> any ideas where I might be able to find a mirror for a download?
[20:24] <alo21> OerHeks: I still have torrent in downloading
[20:24] <br1ckd> anyone know why apt is downloading at 5-75 KB/s when I can download an ISO from the same mirror at 1.5+ MB/s? Using HTTP for apt and the iso...
[20:25] <daftykins> br1ckd: just try running the auto select mirror or pick another one manually
[20:26] <OerHeks> alo21, remove them from  config/transmission/torrents/  and /resume/  ?
[20:27] <noobieneedshelp> hey guys - would a 56k dial up connection using my pc as a server be stable in a Live USB?
[20:27] <noobieneedshelp> Would the connection be stable and fast enough?
[20:28] <erkules> ahoi I read ubuntu 14.10 claims to do be able to do something like coreos. As a fact I didn't find out by what means? Is there docker integration for juju? Is there something else?
[20:29] <Mightcould3> noobieneedshelp, 56k dial up? im not sure if that still exist. if it does... dude seriously?
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> it's not for internet browsing
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> it's for my dreamcast lol
[20:29] <Paramezius> hello,  i'd like to try ubuntu touch with the ubuntu emulator
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> so it can play games online using my pc as a server
[20:30] <Mightcould3> my phone gets 20mbps. i didnt know a company would still offer 56k. what would you do on it?
[20:30] <Paramezius> do you recomend me the ubuntu emulator included in the repositories of 14.04 or the phablet ppa?
[20:30] <noobieneedshelp> http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/#step3
[20:30] <noobieneedshelp> this explains it
[20:30] <Paramezius> arm or i386 image?
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> basically, instead of a dial-up ISP you use a computer as a router of sorts to play online
[20:31] <Mightcould3> yeah pretty sure 56k wont do any games. when i used to run a multiplayer KSP server most clients avr'd at 100 kbps.
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> mightcould3: this isn't for po games
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> read the link
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> it's designed for 56k
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> pc*
[20:31] <Sheepolution> I probably know the answer, but just to be sure: If I installed Ubuntu on Drive A and have files on Drive B, and I reinstall Ubuntu completely, Drive B will be unharmed right?
[20:32] <Sheepolution> I'm paranoid
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> yes SHeep
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> Drive B will be fine
[20:32] <Mightcould3> well isnt that cute. good luck with it. dreamcast was one of my fav consoles :D
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> yeah it's great
[20:34] <noobieneedshelp> Is there a way to 'merge' my Live USB filesystem with a hard disk-installed Ubuntu's filesystem?
[20:34] <popey> Paramezius: the ppa, definitely
[20:34] <noobieneedshelp> Like, move the all the files on my live usb filesystem to the hdd one?
[20:35] <Paramezius> popey, do you mean the phablet ppa?
[20:35] <popey> the ubuntu sdk ppa, yes
[20:35] <popey> for all of the sdk, what release you on?
[20:38] <jose__> hello
[20:41] <benzhninja> someone change their name to skylake
[20:42] <the_drow_> Is it worthwhile to install Mir on my laptop (ubuntu 14.10)?
[20:42] <benzhninja> if you change your name to skylake
[20:42] <the_drow_> How much things will break? Can I switch back to xorg?
[20:43] <Paramezius> popey, i'm on 14.04
[20:43] <the_drow_> benzhninja: and that's the dev of Mir?
[20:43] <benzhninja> please
[20:43] <alo21> OerHeks: it works thanks :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> alo21, have fun
[20:44] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Anyone here good with touch screens?  I installed ubuntu 14.04 and use xrandr to rotate the screen -90'.  Now when I do xinput_calibrator it pops the calibration screen up but it only shows the right hand side of the sccreen
[20:45] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> is there any way to get my touch to rotate as well?
[20:45] <popey> Paramezius: so yes, definitely use the ppa
[20:45] <alo21> How can I enable my trash in Ubuntu?
[20:47] <hayer_> What user runs the "nfs auto mount"-thingy?
[20:49] <brainwash> the_drow_: do you plan to test unity8?
[20:49] <Paramezius> popey, thanks a lot. One more thing. do you recomend me the arm or the i386 image?
[20:50] <popey> Paramezius: the i386 one is way faster
[20:51] <Paramezius> thanks a lot popey  :)
[20:51] <brainwash> the_drow_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/mir-devel/2014-October/000908.html
[20:52] <Squidward> how do i use ntfs as root fs
[20:52] <brainwash> you don't
[20:52] <Squidward> why not
[20:52] <popey> Paramezius: no problem, #ubuntu-app-devel is where other like minded devs hang out
[20:52] <the_drow_> brainwash: hahahaha
[20:53] <hayer_> how can I add a user to a group? "sudo adduser username groupname"?
[20:53] <popey> Squidward: ntfs doesn't support some of the things we need (like symlinks)
[20:53] <Squidward> oh
[20:54] <solars> hi, does anyone know how to get more than 30hz with 2560x1440 over HDMI with an intel graphics hd 4400?
[20:54] <popey> solars: dont you need dual dvi for that?
[20:54] <solars> popey, well I got 30hz working
[20:54] <solars> popey, but I have no clue and it's a laptop with only hdmi
[20:55] <popey> solars: pretty sure it needs dual dvi to get higher bandwidth.. i may be wrong
[20:55] <popey> solars: from googling it looks like that video card doesn't support it
[20:55] <popey> solars: e.g. https://communities.intel.com/thread/30360
[20:56] <solars> popey, I found this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/2560x1440-or-2560x1600-via-HDMI.92840.0.html
[20:56] <popey> "Intel graphics does not support dual-link, therefore 1920x1200 is the maximum for DVI and HDMI, 2560x1440 is only possible with a displayport port"
[20:56] <solars> well I currently run 2560x1440@30hz
[20:56] <popey> right, which is as high as you can get
[20:57] <Xaphod2> hi. i just updated 14.04 -> 14.10, and my kernel version is 3.14.x. How can I get to 3.16.x? I need the HW support. thx
[20:57] <solars> popey, there is also the option with 50 as written in the link I posted
[20:57] <solars> but I'm not sure if that's only for the hd 4000
[20:57] <popey> Xaphod2: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[20:57] <Xaphod2> thanks will try that
[20:57] <popey> np
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: the upgrade _should_ have updated to that
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: you may want to also run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" to see if there's anything else missing (assumiung you use unity based ubuntu and not kubuntu/xubuntu etc)
[20:58] <Xaphod2> I think i might have uninstalled the generic, in favor for a specific 3.14.x, because there was some 3.14.x update that didn’t work for me
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: note that hat ^
[20:59] <popey> that might have done it, yes
[20:59] <Xaphod2> thanks ok will check that. What does the carat mean?
[20:59] <popey> re-install the task, which will pull in any missing bits that should be there
[20:59] <hayer_> "mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd." -- what do? I don't want local locks(bad when multiple users from different machines using the same storage?). "sudo service statd" -> running. Help?!
[20:59] <solars> popey, did you see the statement about 50hz?
[21:00] <popey> solars: i did. dunno what to say.
[21:00] <popey> solars: pretty sure you've hit the max HDMI can do
[21:00] <solars> :/
[21:00] <solars> well for working 30hz is okay
[21:01] <solars> I use the laptop only for work
[21:02] <Faultier> hey guys, i'm new to ubuntu and i would like to know if there is a channel for specific questions if there are any problems
[21:03] <daftykins> Faultier: this is the support channel
[21:03] <Faultier> okay thanks
[21:04] <brainwash> !ask
[21:05] <popey> Faultier: yeah, you found it, welcome! :D
[21:05] <Logicwrath> im confushed about hostnames, should i use ubuntu or ubuntu.domain.net when i am asked during installation, i plan on having it resolve from an A record
[21:05] <popey> you can use either and modify it later
[21:05] <popey> its not crucial to set the hostname in stone during install
[21:06] <Faultier> i'm just wondering why ubuntu hasn´t xchat pre-installed like Mint
[21:06] <popey> Faultier: most users dont use irc
[21:06] <bekks> Logicwrath: the hostname is "yourhostname" and the full qualified domain name is "yourhostname.domain.tld"
[21:06] <popey> (strange though that seems)
[21:06] <Logicwrath> to be clear, during installation it is requesting hostname and not fqdn
[21:07] <Logicwrath> so i should skip the fqdn during install?
[21:07] <popey> Logicwrath: i generally just put hostname, and modify after.
[21:07] <popey> Logicwrath: you can, yes.
[21:07] <bekks> Logicwrath: Actually it is just requesting a hostname.
[21:07] <popey> it will work fine, you can modify it after
[21:07] <compdoc> is it better to define a fqdn during install?
[21:07] <popey> it doesnt matter
[21:07] <bekks> compdoc: It doesnt matter :)
[21:07] <Faultier> Popey What do you mean most users dont use irc in ubuntu, what do they use instead?
[21:07] <popey> takes 2 mins to change later
[21:07] <popey> Faultier: most Ubuntu users don't use IRC at all
[21:08] <Faultier> so how do they get help if they need it?
[21:08] <Filthy> how do they wind up here??
[21:08] <bekks> Filthy: Using forumns, e.g.
[21:08] <kjelle> .o/
[21:08] <popey> Faultier: depends, people may have technical friends, or family
[21:08] <Faultier> i dont rly like forums and familiar things
[21:08] <popey> or they might use forums, askubuntu or mailing lists
[21:09] <popey> we have a _lot_ of support options, irc is just one
[21:09] <bekks> Faultier: you dont have to, but others do.
[21:09] <Faultier> i know ^
[21:09] <kjelle> Im trying to use libpam-ldap libnss-ldap but for some reason the AD account must also exist locally for SSH to work.. Anyone have any idea why that is? pretty basic and plain config.
[21:09] <popey> there's 1800 people here, which represents 0.003% or so of the ubuntu userbase ☻
[21:09] <CoC_towlie> has anyone got Xchat to work with tor inside a VM?
[21:09] <bekks> CoC_towlie: People did, yes.
[21:10] <Faultier> see, in my enviremont i am the only one using linux and i'm thinking about to replace my win 7 with ubuntu
[21:10] <CoC_towlie> i followed this guide verbatim but xchat can not connect
[21:11] <CoC_towlie> lilith-lela.bogspot.com/2012/01/xchat-with-tor-for-freenode-on.html
[21:12] <bekks> Nice try. Spam link. Ignore set.
[21:13] <SchrodingersScat> I also only get spam in that link.
[21:14] <SchrodingersScat> hopefully links2 doesn't help out much
[21:15] <larsmw> Schrodingers Cat,  Are you there??
[21:17] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> OK, fixed the xinput_calibration problem, had to disable a 2nd screen.  Now when I do the calibration is seems to accept it but doesnt stick.
[21:17] <dialupnewb> Hi
[21:18] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: run it from a terminal
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I am
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I ran xinput_calibration from terminal
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> shoudl I do it before the desktop starts?
[21:18] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: doesn't it tell you exactly what to do to make the calibration permanent?
[21:18] <dialupnewb> I have an Ubuntu live usb. If I were to use it as a dialup server on my computer, would the connection be stable/fast enough (for a 56k connection)?
[21:19] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Let me double check, not that I could see
[21:19] <dialupnewb> I'm talking about a PC-Dreamcast dial-up connection btw
[21:19] <bekks> dialupnewb: a 56k connection is not fast enough for almost anything nowadays.
[21:19] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: it gave me a text. something like take this snippet and put it in usr/shareblabla
[21:19] <dialupnewb> bekks: it's the correct speed for the dreamcast modem
[21:19] <dialupnewb> look it up
[21:19] <dialupnewb> it's a dialup connection
[21:20] <daftykins> dialupnewb: my understanding is all functionality got turned off for the DC anyway.
[21:20] <SchrodingersScat> dialupnewb: I'd put a bet on it probably would work, maybe little laggy, but once it's up it should be good?
[21:20] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> is there a way to make it show my real time touches??
[21:20] <dialupnewb> daftykins: the servers were turned off. however, it's pretty easy to use a pc as one with linux
[21:20] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> so I can where its registering relative to my touches?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> SchrodingersScat: I'll try it as soon as I get an RJ11 cable online. Thanks.
[21:21] <daftykins> dialupnewb: a PC as one what?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> A dialup server
[21:21] <daftykins> dialupnewb: right but what does getting it online allow you to do?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/
[21:21] <dialupnewb> Play games online, download free DLC for Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure, etc
[21:21] <dialupnewb> browse the internet with a browser
[21:22] <dialupnewb> it's mainly for the free DLC and the online multiplayer like Phantasy Star Online V2\
[21:22] <daftykins> well, good luck then
[21:22] <dialupnewb> ty
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> !info libgcrypt
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> !info libgcrypt11
[21:22] <cognitiaclaeves> I've broken grub.  How do I get it to boot again?
[21:22] <cognitiaclaeves> *grub2
[21:22] <dialupnewb> SchrodingersScat: would the connection be any different in terms of stability to a hard-disk installed Ubuntu?
[21:23] <dialupnewb> because I do have Ubuntu on my HDD, it's just that the drivers for my modem are on the USB and I can't figure out how to move them :(
[21:23] <SchrodingersScat> dialupnewb: while i had a dreamcast, and played some PSO, I don't know how I could estimate that :/
[21:23] <dialupnewb> you sold the DC?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Depends on what got broke where, maybe as simple as (re-)installing grub from a liveDVD. Is this a EFI based system ?
[21:24] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, I don't think it is.  I disabled it from BIOS and it still seems to boot.
[21:24] <Squidward> vote charlie baker ma 2014
[21:24] <sregister> cognitiaclaeves: I would go Bashing-om
[21:25] <sregister> route of fixing
[21:25] <Squidward> vote charlie baker ma 2014
[21:25] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, Does it need to be installed from a liveDVD?  I booted into Ubuntu using supergrub 2.
[21:25] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Let's look, and make sure of what we are working with : sudo parted -l | pastebinit .
[21:27] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Nopoe, IF you can boot into the install .. just figure out weather it is a EFI partition involved. and try to (re)-install grub, see what happens.
[21:27] <cognitiaclaeves> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8751896/
[21:27] <Semajnad> Where's the best place to save general files in Linux that can be accessed by all users. For example, on Windows you might create C:/NewFolder to share files across all users.
[21:27] <cognitiaclaeves> There's no /boot/efi ... that makes it non-efi, right?
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[21:28] <unopaste> Cr4zy12 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:28] <dialupnewb> Is there a way to make a .squashfs filesystem a normal directory?
[21:29] <dialupnewb> If possible, I'd like to merge the drivers from my live usb with those on my hdd (same version of Ubuntu)
[21:29] <Semajnad> What's the best way to remotely connect to a ubuntu-desktop session so it asks for the users login and more then one user can be logged in at once. Stuff like RealVNC and Teamviewer obviously connect directly to the server and are not session based.
[21:29] <del_> Semajnad: Do you have more than one user?
[21:29] <quitte> Semajnad: /tmp ;). who do you want to be the owner of the shared files?
[21:29] <ikonia> dialupnewb: they are already the same
[21:29] <Semajnad> quitte: del_: we havae 3 users and want some files shared between them all
[21:30] <Semajnad> quitte: But they are not Temp files?
[21:30] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, do I reinstall grub with grub-install ?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: I installed some drivers on the usb (persistent storage of 1GB)
[21:30] <quitte> Semajnad: you can have permissions such that parts of your home are accessible by others
[21:30] <ikonia> dialupnewb: which ones ?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: I'd like to access those drivers as I can't download them anymore
[21:30] <del_> Semajnad: It really doesn't matter. Just the current user's directory would be fine.  Just create  direcory /home/Semajnad/Share
[21:30] <Semajnad> quitte: If we are running game servers, what's the best way to do it. User per game server, or individual users for admins who can all aaccess the game server files?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: here's the driver download, lol:http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/agrsm-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.14_i386.deb
[21:30] <quitte> Semajnad I guess you could create a fourth users where everyone can create files in his home directory and then he owns them
[21:31] <Semajnad> quitte:  Nice idea :)
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: it isn't working for me
[21:31] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Sorry, but I must run away from this one, as I know nothing about encryption. I do not know how grub works with encrypted partitions.
[21:31] <ikonia> dialupnewb: define "not working for you"
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: it won't download
[21:31] <del_> Semajnad: Have it owned by a group that You're user and the oters also belong to.
[21:31] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, /boot ( sda5 ) is not encrypted.
[21:31] <quitte> Semajnad: well that sounds like the admin is the owner. then it goes in /usr/local/
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: network timeout. I think it's down
[21:32] <ikonia> dialupnewb: what version of ubuntu are you using
[21:32] <Semajnad> quitte: We have 3 admins who manage them. So I don't want any of them owning the files inidividually. So I created a group called server-admin and made the 3 users owners of that group. My plan was to use a shared place to store the files, make the group own the files, then let the individuaal users manage them that waya.
[21:32] <dialupnewb> ikonia: outdated but that isn't really relevant. 8.10
[21:32] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Thgink'n .
[21:32] <ikonia> it is relevant
[21:32] <dialupnewb> ikonia: and no I can't nor do I want to upgrade
[21:32] <Semajnad> users of that group sorry*
[21:32] <Bashing-om> think'n*
[21:32] <quitte> Semajnad: so make a directory group writable in /home ?
[21:32] <ikonia> dialupnewb: ok, then support ends
[21:33] <dialupnewb> ikonia: ikr
[21:33] <Semajnad> quitte: Okay thanks, I'll do that then. Just create /home/server-files
[21:33] <ikonia> this channel only supports in support release, so good luck, find the module in the kernel tree and move it across to your other system
[21:33] <ikonia> good luck
[21:34] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, just tell me how it would work without encryption...
[21:34] <quitte> Semajnad: look into the set group id bit
[21:34] <Semajnad> quitte: How do I create a directory in /home when a normal aadministrator account does not have access? Should you enable root to do this or is there a preferred way.
[21:35] <quitte> Semajnad: http://xkcd.com/149/
[21:36] <ikonia> how is that helpful ?
[21:36] <Semajnad> quitte: Oh damn ye
[21:36] <Semajnad> quitte: Thanks
[21:36] <Semajnad> *And the penny drops*
[21:37] <lultron> self validating : http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj
[21:37] <ikonia> lultron: ?
[21:37] <lultron> topic validated in 372 lines
[21:37] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, I think I found my answer here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2_from_a_Working_System
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: it's nothing to do with this channel, or any of the other channels your posting it in
[21:38] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Again I am not at all sure, but maybe try: -> sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda <- from the ubuntu install. see if sda5 /boot is picked up.
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: please stick to ubuntu discussion in this channel
[21:38] <Sheepolution> The reinstall page says that I must use the same username and password, but that's only when doing a soft reinstall right?
[21:38] <jimmy51v_> can't get VPN to connect. http://pastebin.ca/2866453 <-- anything in there stand out as an obvious issue?
[21:38] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, Yes I got that but the config does not work
[21:38] <lultron> ikonia it is discussed in the article how best to use ubuntu
[21:38] <lultron> so i find you incorrect
[21:38] <Sheepolution> Where I don't reset the homefolder
[21:38] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, it tells me to make a script that runs at startup
[21:38] <del_> Semajnad: groupadd -g 211 wheel && usemod -a -G wheel Semajnad   #And add other users to it in the same way.  And then have the directory owned by the group. mkdir /home/Semajnad/Share && sudo chown Semajnad:wheel /home/Semajnad/Share
[21:38] <lultron> you didn't read it
[21:38] <lultron> rtfm and stfu tx
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: again - nothing to do with this channel
[21:39] <lultron> http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj you decide
[21:39] <Ben64> del_: ubuntu doesn't use wheel
[21:39] <Semajnad> del_: I don't get it :/ I was just going to do chown on the /home/shared-files folder to the group?
[21:39] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, but it does not work in the first place :(.  It appears that is KNOWS what is wrong and that it needs to reverse the axis as well so I am a little confused
[21:39] <del_> Ben64: ubuntu uses any group you want it to.
[21:39] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, hmm ... hadn't heard of --recheck
[21:39] <Ben64> del_: ok well, wheel has no effect
[21:40] <Semajnad> del_: Oh thaat's just adding Semaajnaad to the group wheel (sorry for the aaaa's btw, my keyboard is screwed atm)
[21:40] <del_> Ben64: wheel is just a name
[21:40] <Ben64> del_: Semajnad already has a group name, why change it? and why change it to wheel
[21:41] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: --recheck does just that .. if files are missing will create them.
[21:41] <del_> Ben64: It is the name of a group
[21:41] <cognitiaclaeves> Thanks, Bashing-om .  I'm going to give it a shot now.
[21:41] <Semajnad> Ben64: del_ I've changed the users daniel, felix and nathan to the group server-admin, then going to make server-admin own /home/shared-files
[21:41] <Ben64> Semajnad: yep
[21:41] <Semajnad> Ben64: Nice.
[21:41] <Semajnad> del_: Thanks
[21:42] <del_> Ben64: A user can be member of as many groups as you want.
[21:42] <Ben64> del_: you're not understanding
[21:42] <Semajnad> Last question, what's the best waay to remote connect to ubuntu-desktop. I tried VNC servers but they don't connect using sessions, they just connect directly. I want it so when I connect it asaks for the users login / password :/
[21:42] <Semajnad> I tried XRDP but people said it wont work with ubuntu-desktop
[21:43] <del_> Ben64: *You* are not understanding.  groupadd creates a *new* group.  (I just use the name wheel as an example. You can use any group name you want, but wheel will work just fine.)
[21:43] <Ben64> del_: but he already has a group! why add another! why wheel! wheel is used in other distros for something very particular!
[21:43] <Nothing_Much> Having MAJOR problem with 750 Ti crashing Unity/Compiz
[21:43] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu 14.10
[21:44] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: I have the same problem, I think
[21:44] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: bay trail tablet per chance?
[21:44] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[21:44] <del_> Ben64: Do we care that other distro's use the same group name?  Or user name for that matter?  If another PC has a gourp or user name that is the same as the one you are on now, do you care?
[21:44] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu 14.10, having MAJOR problems with 750 Ti crashing Compiz/Unity, errors in the Xorg.0.log show ^@^@^@^@^@
[21:44] <Ben64> del_: it could confuse other users, but you're missing the main point, which is that HE ALREADY HAS MADE A GROUP
[21:45] <Nothing_Much> I am using the latest stable 340 drivers, btw
[21:45] <cognitiaclaeves> Thanks, Bashing-om .  That did the trick!
[21:45] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Great ! I had my fingers crossed .
[21:45] <cognitiaclaeves> :)
[21:46] <del_> Ben64: So he can use the group he just made then.  That is ok.  I was just showing the complete operation.  Again it does *not* matter what the name of the goup is.  It can be pineapple if you want.
[21:46] <Ben64> del_: i'm glad you figured that out after so many lines of pointless argument
[21:46] <quitte> Nothing_Much: is your PSU plenty beefy enough?
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, No I am using a chinese IR touch screen overlay on 42" TV
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I can tell for sure that its getting an input
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> and the coordinates are right
[21:47] <del_> Ben64: Maybe it is pointless argument but maybe you learned a little from it :)
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> its even recognizing that it should invert axiw
[21:47] <Ben64> del_: there was nothing to learn from you
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> but its acting like its taking its own advice ;)
[21:48] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> like its NOT taking its own advice
[21:48] <needhelp> Hi
[21:48] <needhelp> I need some help with this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113588/install-from-persistent-liveusb-including-files-changes-on-casper-rw
[21:48] <Semajnad> del_: I've put them in a group called server-admins, then chmod 774 /home/shared-files, but they still can not create directories inside shared-files. Should server-admins be those users primary group?
[21:48] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: how do you do the testing? here i see that it reacts to touch but i have no idea if the coordinates match anything
[21:49] <Semajnad> If I do chmod 777 they can, so to me that seems like they are not part of the group?
[21:49] <needhelp> I can't figure out how to move my persistent usb's files onto a new install
[21:49] <quitte> i think iut even got worse after putting the snippet in the config file
[21:49] <Nothing_Much> quitte: Yes, it's 430 watts
[21:49] <del_> Semajnad: Uesers will need to log out and back in again for changes to be effective.
[21:49] <Semajnad> del_: Thank you.
[21:49] <quitte> Nothing_Much: that's not plenty
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> quitte: The minimum requirements for the 750 Ti is 400 watts
[21:50] <Semajnad> del_: Do you know a good RDP client that works with ubuntu-desktop?
[21:50] <Semajnad> server*
[21:50] <quitte> Nothing_Much: that's about just enough
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> I am 30 watts over
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> Right
[21:50] <quitte> see. it's probably the psu
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> And that would cause Compiz to crash?
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> What?
[21:50] <Nothing_Much> Are you joking?
[21:50] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, I can just tell by the coordinates that it puts out
[21:50] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, the script it tells me to make looks absolutely proper
[21:50] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, it just doesnt seem to be taking its own advice
[21:50] <a4> hi guys, I've started aptitude and I saw 40 security updates. I would like to perform only security update, but after I press u, the amount of security updates keeps the same. What I'm doing wrong
[21:50] <a4> ?
[21:51] <blaaa> a4: you need to install them
[21:51] <quitte> Nothing_Much: the psu powers more than just the gpu. and the wattage is combined of all rails. so unless you have plenty...
[21:51] <OerHeks> it does what you want, security update only, so install those 40
[21:52] <a4> I know, and I also trying. but somehow I do something wrong. I press u, but that doesn't help
[21:52] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> If I do xorg it tells me to add to xorg.conf.d but there is none in etc/X11
[21:52] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, If I do xorg it tells me to add to xorg.conf.d but there is none in etc/X11
[21:52] <del_> Semajnad: krdc
[21:53] <del_> !krdc | Semajnad
[21:53] <Semajnad> del_: Thank you
[21:53] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: there is one in usr/share. at least in debian. it tells you about that,too
[21:53] <del_> !info krdc | Semajnad
[21:53] <jcgs> a4: press + on the updates you want to install, then press g to confirm
[21:54] <quitte> Nothing_Much: try setting the power saving governor to energy saving in the nvidia control center
[21:54] <del_> a4: You should use apt-get
[21:54] <jcgs> a4: pressing u just updates the list of packages
[21:55] <jcgs> del_: aptitude's not so bad...it's a bit easier to see what's available, especially when x breaks >.<
[21:55] <Nothing_Much> quitte: I have a 45W APU
[21:55] <del_> !aptitude
[21:56] <Nothing_Much> And apparently the recommended 400 W on the box was based on a Core i7
[21:56] <Nothing_Much> So I can assume either 65W or 120W
[21:56] <jcgs> del_: yeah but that was 12.04 :P
[21:56] <quitte> Nothing_Much: if someone tells you that you need "at least this" it means any less and you're screwed
[21:56] <Nothing_Much> That the Core i7 would take up
[21:56] <del_> jcgs: I see....
[21:57] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, thanks trying that now
[21:57] <Nothing_Much> quitte: The ranked wattage for the 750 Ti it 65 W itself
[22:00] <Semajnad> del_: Does KRDC have server software then?
[22:01] <Semajnad> del_: KRDC just seems to connect to the server, doesn't actually let you login with multiple sessions or does it?
[22:02] <del_> Semajnad: You may just want vnc (session based?)  If so you can use tightvnc and/or x11vnc
[22:03] <Semajnad> del_: I thought VNC wasn't session based? It just connects to whatever the server is on at the time of connecting?
[22:03] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Grrrr
[22:03] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> all I need to do is swap axis on this and its perfect
[22:03] <Semajnad> del_: I want it so when you login, it asks for your ubuntu login details and then creates a session for you?
[22:03] <Semajnad> del_: So more then one person can be logged in at once.
[22:03] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> when I touch middle of screen its dead on but goes exact oppisite of whatever direction I go so its 180' out of phase
[22:04] <jcgs> anyway...I just upgraded to 14.10 and now my sound doesn't work. I can't run alsamixer because I get the error message "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[22:04] <jcgs> "
[22:04] <del_> !info xtightvncviewer | Semajnad
[22:04] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Sorry, 90' out of phase
[22:05] <del_> Semajnad: tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software  And there is also x11vnc  (server side)
[22:05] <omosoj> hey all, when i try to ssh into something i get an error message asking for a keyring password
[22:06] <del_> omosoj: We hope you remember it.
[22:06] <Semajnad> del_: So will x11vnc let users connecting have their own sessions, and ask for linux login details?
[22:06] <del_> Semajnad: Or not...
[22:06] <omosoj> del_, never set one
[22:06] <del_> Semajnad: default for x11vnc is no password, but you set it up as you see fit.
[22:07] <Semajnad> del_: But doesn't VNC just haave a general VNC password, or can you set it up so it asks for a ubuntu username and password?
[22:07] <del_> Semajnad: Choice is yours
[22:07] <jcgs> omosoj: what is the error message?
[22:08] <del_> omosoj: Password recovery is not something we can help you with.
[22:09] <Oxymore> hello there, i have an issue when updating some php packages, here is my dpkg output https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0c93ada6ecc3d4086b88 , does anyone have a clue
[22:10] <Nothing_Much> I really need help with my gpu
[22:10] <omosoj> unlock private key. enter password to unlock private key. an application wants access to the private key '<email address>' but it is locked.
[22:10] <omosoj> jcgs ^
[22:10] <jcgs> omosoj: what were you expecting? just to be asked the plain text password for the user account?
[22:11] <del_> Semajnad: x11vmc will let anyone connect. (So it is best to only turn it on when you need it, and yes, it is best to set a password, but if there are no untrusted users on your network, just leave it open.  Again, the choice is yours.
[22:12] <omosoj> jcgs, not sure what i was expecting. i'm not an expert... i was trying to clone a repo from bitbucket... created a key etc, then got this error. (never have a problem with github)
[22:12] <Semajnad> del_: I think I'm not explaining myself well. I want a way to connect to the Ubuntu GUI, so multiple users can be connected to the server at once. I want it so when you connect, it asks for your Ubuntu Login, not a general password. It will then load the user into their account.
[22:12] <popey> Nothing_Much: you need to be more specific
[22:12] <del_> Semajnad: You can ssh in and run it for one session, connect and after that it goes away.  x11vnc by itself is for only one session, x11vnc -forever is for continued use.
[22:12] <omosoj> jcgs, but instead of downloading into the terminal, a window pops up with that message
[22:12] <Semajnad> del_: But will it ask you for your ubuntu login, or just a general password. And can more then one person be connected to x11vnc at once?>
[22:13] <Semajnad> del_: Doing different things?
[22:13] <omosoj> there are lot of people on google who have the problem, but haven't found a solution
[22:13] <del_> Semajnad: Linux Terminal Server may be more like what you are looking for.
[22:14] <Oxymore> omosoj it's because your key is password protected, when you created it you must have set a password and forgot it
[22:14] <Semajnad> del_: I'll look that up thanks.
[22:14] <Semajnad> del_: So that would be like virtualisation?
[22:14] <del_> Semajnad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[22:15] <Oxymore> omosoj if you don't use your key for anything else that github, just remove it and create a new one, if you set a passphrase don't forget it :)
[22:15] <del_> !ltsp
[22:15] <omosoj> Oxymore, are you sure?
[22:15] <Oxymore> 99.5%
[22:16] <omosoj> heh. i was going to say i was 99% sure i didn't put a password
[22:16] <del_> omosoj: That is because there is no solution.
[22:17] <Oxymore> osomoj save your old key somewhere, and generate a new one, pay attention if ssh-keygen ask you to set a passphrase
[22:17] <jcgs> omosoj: this gnome-keyring thing sounds like a pain in the butt (pardon my french)...here is a suggestion grabbed from internet forum: sudo gconftool-2 --set -t bool /apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh false
[22:17] <del_> omosoj: If you use keyring and set a password and do not remember it there is not much we can do about it.  (Nor you for that matter.)
[22:17] <omosoj> jcgs, what's that do?
[22:17] <Oxymore> anyway, does anybody can help me with that crazy apt-get who won't upgrade my packages? :(
[22:17] <jcgs> omosoj: look here...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008797 but i haven't tested it
[22:18] <del_> Oxymore: sudo apt-get -f install
[22:18] <Oxymore> del_ already tried, same problem
[22:18] <omosoj> del_, thank you for your help but i'm skeptical of you and your dour attitude.
[22:19] <del_> Oxymore: Pastebinit
[22:19] <cristian_c> Hello
[22:19] <Oxymore> del_ https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0c93ada6ecc3d4086b88
[22:19] <cristian_c> I've got a multimedia keyboard
[22:19] <cristian_c> either /lib/udev/findkeyboards and sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX commands, pressing multimedia keys does nothing
[22:19] <Oxymore> that's a dpkg output, but it's the same as the apt-get one
[22:19] <cristian_c> same situation with sudo evtest
[22:19] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[22:20] <jcgs> Oxymore: can you try just configuring php-cli on it's own as that is the one which is failing...are you even interested in that package?
[22:20] <jcgs> Oxymore: correction there are three that are failing
[22:21] <omosoj> jcgs, didn't work :/
[22:21] <jcgs> Oxymore: unfortunately, all the log says is that a subprocess exited with status 1. That could mean absolutely anything... to find out what's actually wrong you'll need some more detail
[22:21] <Oxymore> jcgs indeed, but I can't put my finger on why they are failing, I even purged them, no difference
[22:22] <Oxymore> jcgs yeah, that's kind of the issue, I can't find any logs anywhere
[22:22] <Oxymore> i know it's in the postinst scripts, but no idea what's actually crashing
[22:23] <del_> Oxymore: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libapache2-mod-php
[22:24] <del_> Oxymore: (in other words, try doing them individually...)
[22:25] <Oxymore> del_ i'll try that
[22:26] <del_> Oxymore: I left off the 5 (libapache2-mod-php5)
[22:27] <jcgs> Oxymore: apparently the script lives in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.postinst
[22:27] <jcgs> Oxymore: you can run it manually from there and see what it says
[22:28] <jcgs> Oxymore: in theory all postinst scripts are required to be written in a way which means that runnning them multiple times is not harmful, but it might be worth trying to undertand what it is attempting to do first by reading it
[22:29] <Oxymore> jcgs I already tried that, but I've some dpkg related error poping up when I do
[22:29] <Oxymore> I fully purged php5 packages again and I'm trying to install from a ppa, maybe that'll do it
[22:30] <jcgs> Oxymore: anything helpful? did the script exit with status 1 (the status can be checked by running echo $? after the script in bash)
[22:31] <jcgs> Oxymore: you will have to run <script> configure btw
[22:36] <Oxymore> jcgs sorry i went dark, full purge + reinstall from ppa:ondrej/php5 fixed the problem
[22:36] <omosoj> Oxymore, if i want to remove and create a new key, i should just delete the files in .ssh and redo the process?
[22:36] <omosoj> ssh-keygen etc...
[22:36] <obounaim> Is there a good tool to manage updates for multiple Ubuntu/debian serveurs?
[22:36] <obounaim> thanks
[22:37] <Oxymore> omosoj yes, but don't hard delete the old one, save it somewhere, just in case
[22:37] <omosoj> k, thanks
[22:38] <jcgs> Oxymore: no worries
[22:38] <jcgs> my sound has magically fixed itself somehow so I'm all set :)
[22:38] <jcgs> bye chaps
[22:39] <Guest55709> Hello everyone
[22:40] <quitte> window 2
[22:41] <quitte> mods: crossine is a spammer
[22:42] <OerHeks> .
[22:42] <OerHeks> !ops | crossine gives away "free" urls in PM
[22:52] <omosoj> halleleuya
[22:53] <omosoj> thanks everyone for the help
[22:56] <new_nerd> NOTICE new_nerd :_VERSION Telnet version 1.0b_
[22:57] <new_nerd> privmsg #ubuntu : qualcuno mi potrebbe rispondere? non capisco nulla
[22:58] <k1l> !it | new_nerd
[22:59] <new_nerd> privmsg #ubuntu : sorry for my italian in my previous message. I am a new user just discovered this... can someone help me in discovernif commands and structures?
[22:59] <newASonline> em.. help?
[23:00] <bisu> hello?
[23:00] <new_nerd> hello?
[23:00] <new_nerd> bisu?
[23:00] <bisu> hello
[23:00] <k1l> !ask
[23:01] <bisu> i have a problem when i want enter dates in mysql with php
[23:01] <new_nerd> I have a problem because I don't know any command yet aahahahh
[23:01] <bisu> you can ask in google
[23:01] <bisu> he have all comands
[23:01] <k1l> new_nerd: please dont spoil the channel. its for technical ubuntu support
[23:01] <bisu> in linux
[23:02] <newASonline> em.. graphic card fail after update?
[23:02] <k1l> newASonline: which ubuntu exactly and which video card?
[23:02] <k1l> bisu: dont tell others to google. especially when you need support yourself, that doesnt look good.
[23:02] <newASonline> em...12.04 lts (i think)..
[23:02] <newASonline> 12.04.4
[23:03] <k1l> newASonline: "lsb_release -d"
[23:03] <new_nerd> sorry didnt ment to spoil the channel.. my apologies. where should I go to learn some commands and not to disturb?
[23:03] <newASonline> em.. translate for dumb asses?
[23:03] <bisu> oh i asked google but no have information
[23:04] <k1l> newASonline: "lsb_release -d" in a terminal will tell you the exact version
[23:04] <bisu> but what is the problem why i'm can't enter datas in mysql with php
[23:04] <k1l> new_nerd: which commands? ubuntu terminal commands?
[23:04] <newASonline> ow.. ok, ok
[23:04] <new_nerd> k1l how can I send you pvt not to spoil the general chat?
[23:04] <bisu> google say nothing
[23:05] <k1l> new_nerd: if its ubuntu support ask in here
[23:05] <Bashing-om> newASonline: For help about freenode -> " /join #freenode , for help with irssi -> /join #irssi .
[23:05] <newASonline> lsb_release -d	 --- >Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[23:05] <k1l> newASonline: ok, which video card and which driver do you run?
[23:06] <newASonline> em..  no idea.. generic for now.. it ask's me to install amd graphic ..  ?
[23:07] <Bashing-om> new_nerd: my apologies newASonline, new_nerd ^^ above.
[23:07] <Airbander> guys any expret in linux i have some questions
[23:07] <Marasgeon> I have a problem with a specific SD card, ubuntu see the card it says unknown format
[23:07] <newASonline> graphic card is known to me under  name "AN3450/DI/512MD2/(LP)
[23:07] <new_nerd> quit
[23:07] <k1l> newASonline: ok please pastbin the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3"
[23:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Airbander
[23:07] <newASonline> em.. why are u apologizeing again? :-D
[23:08] <bisu> anyone have idea the why i can't enter dates in mysql whith php
[23:08] <ikonia> try asking in ##php
[23:08] <ikonia> that will support php programming
[23:08] <Airbander> i love to know what is the best distro for a beginner like me
[23:09] <ikonia> ubuntu is a good starting point
[23:09] <ikonia> try it,
[23:09] <ikonia> if you don't like it, try a different one
[23:09] <newASonline> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[23:09] <k1l> Airbander: since you ask in a ubuntu channel. ubuntu :)
[23:09] <newASonline> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[23:09] <Airbander> i have right now xubuntu 64
[23:09] <newASonline>  RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450 AGP] [1002:95c6]
[23:09] <k1l> !paste | newASonline
[23:09] <ikonia> good starting point, see how you get one
[23:09] <ikonia> on
[23:09] <newASonline> ow.. soeey
[23:09] <bisu> say nothing no have idea i write all sintaxis that i show in a bocks and tutorial
[23:09] <newASonline> sorry
[23:09] <ikonia> bisu: try the ##php chanel
[23:09] <bisu> oh oh oh
[23:09] <ikonia> bisu: that channel will support your php programming
[23:09] <bisu> sorry
[23:09] <bisu> okay okay
[23:10] <k1l> newASonline: that command should do more than that, please put all in the pastebin
[23:10] <Airbander> the problem i dont know to deal with problems
[23:10] <Airbander> i need to ask every time i have a problem
[23:10] <Airbander> this make me feel like donky
[23:10] <Filthy> Airbander: google is your friend
[23:10] <ikonia> Airbander: what do you want us to do about that ?
[23:10] <k1l> Airbander: start using it. if you got a problem you can ask here or search online if someone already got a solution
[23:10] <newASonline> damn.. my dvd player is pissed :-D i am running live version at the moment :-D
[23:10] <Airbander> i want understand the whol system
[23:11] <Airbander> any books ?
[23:11] <Airbander> or videos
[23:11] <ikonia> Airbander: not really
[23:11] <ikonia> Airbander: https://help.ubuntu.com
[23:11] <ikonia> Airbander: thats a good guide for an introduction and getting things done
[23:11] <k1l> !rute | Airbander
[23:11] <Marasgeon> why gparted pops up libparted bug when I try to write partition table to a SD card?
[23:11] <[N]eo> Airbander: Go to the library. Pick on books on Linux. ??? Profit
[23:11] <Airbander> thanks guys for helping me
[23:11] <newASonline> got it.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8752840/
[23:12] <quitte> Airbander: /usr/share/doc is a good place to look for specific packages
[23:12] <newASonline> is  it ok?
[23:12] <solsTiCe> hi. Anyone knows why I have 2 entries called ubuntu in grub2 ? one is with a capital Ubuntu and boots windows (yeah !) and the other one ubuntu without capital boots ubuntu.
[23:12] <k1l> newASonline: its a AGP card?
[23:12] <newASonline> yap
[23:12] <ki7mt> Airbander, Also: https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:13] <k1l> newASonline: well, i think that old cards are not supported by amd anymore. so i suggest to use the free driver as you do now
[23:14] <newASonline> yes.. that would be ok.. but.. than i may not restart :-S and use only live version from now on?
[23:14] <newASonline> seriusly??
[23:15] <k1l> newASonline: what?
[23:15] <k1l> why that?
[23:15] <newASonline> exactly..
[23:15] <newASonline> i use live version..
[23:15] <k1l> newASonline: can you please describe the whole issue?
[23:15] <newASonline> right now.. fresh install
[23:16] <Bashing-om> newASonline: AMD has dropped support for that card, you are running the open source driver that does support that grahics card. Is there a specific problem now ?
[23:16] <newASonline> after update.. black screen.. i understand no more support for graphic's.. but.. is there a way to get update's, but to not update graphic's?
[23:16] <AcIdBaTh> hey guys im trying to create a mac os usb with ubuntu 14.10.
[23:16] <solsTiCe> ... and the windows entry does not boot windows. it gives an error !
[23:17] <newASonline> running 12.04.4 lts.. live version - fresh installed
[23:17] <newASonline> i fi reboot got black screen.. "updates"
[23:17] <k1l> AcIdBaTh: see mac support if they actually allow to be macOS run on usb.
[23:17] <newASonline> if i*
[23:18] <AcIdBaTh> yeah cause converting the .dmg to .img and using unetbooting dont work
[23:18] <k1l> newASonline: so to sum that up: after installation you get a black screen while it works on live-system?
[23:18] <newASonline> yap
[23:18] <k1l> AcIdBaTh: that is more a problem of the OS (mac OS) instead of ubuntu
[23:19] <k1l> !nomodeset | newASonline try that one.
[23:19] <newASonline> because.. no more support for graphic's as i understand..
[23:19] <AcIdBaTh> ive been searching and cant find anything. The hdd messed up n the only other computer i have is on ubuntu
[23:19] <k1l> newASonline: no more support for the propritary driver from ati/amd. but there should be support from the open-source community driver
[23:19] <k1l> newASonline: so: fglrx=nono, radeon=yes
[23:20] <k1l> AcIdBaTh: sorry, but we cant help you with thet macOS issue.
[23:20] <newASonline> em.. engleash?
[23:20] <newASonline> k1l
[23:20] <AcIdBaTh> thats cool. Thanx anyway.
[23:21] <k1l> newASonline: you have 2 different drivers. fglrx is the amd one, radeon is the free community one. radeon sould work.
[23:22] <newASonline> em.. ok? can u guide me to the process?
[23:22] <newASonline> please?
[23:22] <newASonline> sorry, 4 being complete newb..
[23:22] <newASonline> one question..
[23:23] <k1l> i dont know amd cards. but i would suggest to try nomodeset as kernel parameter. which the bot told you
[23:23] <newASonline> nevermind
[23:24] <newASonline> so what exactly do i need to do?
[23:24] <Mendax1> what is the deal?
[23:25] <Mendax1> havent been on this channel in a long time
[23:25] <Blaster> Anyone here done VT-d with QEMU and KVM?
[23:25] <ikonia> Mendax1: it's exactly the same as it always is, ubuntu support discussion
[23:25] <k1l> !nomodeset | newASonline
[23:25] <Mendax1> what do you think about ubunut over all?
[23:26] <Mendax1> i think that it maybe likened to spyware
[23:26] <ikonia> then you are wrong
[23:26] <ikonia> and if you think that don't use it
[23:26] <manuelperrotta> hello everybody
[23:27] <Mendax1> why shouldnt i think that if i look at the OS objectively?
[23:27] <ikonia> you can think that
[23:27] <ikonia> and the best answer is to use a different OS
[23:27] <k1l> Mendax1: do you have an actual support issue? for chatting we hav #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:27] <ikonia> not really anything to do with this channel,
[23:27] <Mendax1> why the millitancy>
[23:27] <newASonline> k1l.. ? sorry, but what?  grub is boot, right?
[23:27] <ikonia> there is no millitancy
[23:28] <ikonia> you're miss-informed
[23:28] <Mendax1> ill-informed rather
[23:28] <ikonia> you're welcome to change that opinion, however if you don't want to, the best answer is to use a different OS
[23:28] <ikonia> ok, you're ill-informed
[23:28] <ikonia> but the situation is the same
[23:28] <k1l> Mendax1: because you start with a lie? you have been here 3 days ago.
[23:28] <FreeStyle> How can I change the icon size of notification area in gnome 3.4? I'm in a fallback session.
[23:28] <Mendax1> excuse me
[23:28] <k1l> Mendax1: so dont spoil this channel. stick to the rules. keep it clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[23:29] <Mendax1> this is a valid point with reasons..
[23:29] <ikonia> Mendax1: there is no valid point
[23:29] <ikonia> Mendax1: you think it's spyware, thats your opinion, fine, don't use it,
[23:29] <ikonia> nothing more to say on it
[23:29] <k1l> newASonline: yes. see the bots message and the link in it. it describes that
[23:29] <Mendax1> this channel dose not give justice to IRC
[23:29] <Mendax1> for what it means
[23:29] <ikonia> Mendax1: what do you want from this channel ?
[23:30] <manuelperrotta> yesss
[23:31] <newASonline> so.. do i need to reboot to fix that issue?
[23:31] <diegoaguilar> I stopped it as soon as I could and the writing zeros count was on 0% when I stopped it how could I try recover the partition and some files?
[23:39] <stikikko> hello
[23:40] <daftykins> hi
[23:40] <somsip> !info mysql-server
[23:41] <stikikko> nooooo
[23:42] <daftykins> stikikko: do you have a question?
[23:43] <xfy> I want to run a simple web server to debug http GET requests. I need the entire GET header request but using "python SimpleHTTPServer" and the like type of solution is only outputting certain request headers. How do I deal/display them all?
[23:43] <CCCFire> if i load ubuntu on usb stick, will i still be able to use the other files on the stick?
[23:43] <xfy> I need the RAW packet
[23:44] <daftykins> xfy: tcpdump
[23:44] <k1l> CCCFire: it will format that usb stick
[23:44] <xfy> daftykins, There is no verbose mode with any inbuilt httpd that I could display the raw packet? :P
[23:45] <daftykins> might be, but i'm just saying what i know for sure
[23:45] <xfy> I know. That is an ption hah
[23:45] <CCCFire> so will it still be usable as a flash drive?
[23:46] <xfy> I was just expecting to see the output
[23:46] <k1l> CCCFire: afterwards you can put files on it, too. yes
[23:46] <CCCFire> ok.
[23:47] <CCCFire> is it possible to switch my OS back and forth?
[23:48] <k1l> CCCFire: what do you mean?
[23:51] <Pyno> Hi can someone help me I have made a python script saved it now when i click open it doesnt open with python.. i tried open with and python isnt on the list
[23:52] <Ioyrie> Pyno: #python
[23:53] <k1l> Pyno: is it permissions +x?
[23:53] <Pyno> yeh  i guess
[23:54] <Pyno>   gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/pdfedit.desktop i tried this ( but instead using python from app list)
[23:54] <Pyno> [Desktop Entry] Name=PDF Editor Comment=PDF Editor Exec=pdfedit Icon=/usr/share/pdfedit/icon/pdfedit_logo.png Type=Application StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Categories=TextTools;Viewer;Graphics;Qt;
[23:54] <Pyno> then that with python for exec etc..etc
[23:54] <Pyno> then saved it but what should i save it as
[23:55] <ikonia> Pyno: what's the "exec" it's running
[23:55] <Pyno> btw the python-unregistered isnt work
[23:55] <Mightcould3> yay chipotle
[23:55] <Pyno> ing*
[23:55] <Pyno> Python 3.4
[23:55] <ikonia> Pyno: can you show me the exec line please.
[23:55] <Pyno> then i saved that to desktop but what should i save it as
[23:55] <Pyno> http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/ubuntu-fix-add-program-to-list-of-applications-in-open-with-when-right-clicking-files-in-nautilus/ i used these instructions
[23:55] <ikonia> Pyno: can you show me the exec line please.
[23:55] <Pyno> okay
[23:56] <Pyno> how do i do that ?
[23:56] <ikonia> what is the actual command it's executing
[23:57] <Pyno> Desktop Entry] Name=Python Comment=Python editor Exec=Python 3.4 %f Icon=/usr/share/pdfedit/icon/pdfedit_logo.png Type=Application StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Categories=TextTools;Viewer;Graphics;Qt;
[23:57] <ikonia> python 3.4 isn't something you execute
[23:57] <Pyno> then how do i run IDLE scripts ive saved?
[23:57] <ikonia> idle ?
[23:58] <Pyno> IDLE is what you use to make the scripts
[23:58] <Pyno> where can i find the python IDLE maybe i need to use that as exec line
[23:58] <ikonia> I don't know what idle is, sorry
[23:58] <k1l> do you mean IDE ?
[23:58] <Pyno> no
[23:58] <Pyno> IDLE is just the text editor for python
[23:59] <Pyno> nvm ill look up where its located
[23:59] <Ioyrie> build-compile
[23:59] <k1l> Pyno: so to start from the beginning: does the script itself is set to +x to let it be executed at all?