=== azul is now known as Guest88810 === husky is now known as Guest98666 [08:28] How do i change my resolution to 1920x1080? [08:34] anybody around?? ^ [08:36] SohamG, yep. install the proper gpu driver and you should offered the choice [10:12] hi all [10:13] isthere any way to make compiz work inubuntu studio 14.04? [11:08] How do i make the resolution 1920x1080? [11:24] SohamG: Depends on support for your screen. Flat screen using VGA? [11:24] With VGA, you might not be able to get that res [11:25] Otherwise, it should be as simple as changing screen resolution in the display settings [11:31] i am on HDMI....and on #ubuntu i was told i need to get the friver [11:31] zequence, ^ [11:31] driver, you mean? [11:32] yup :P [11:32] What's the output of this command?: lspci | grep VGA [11:32] Two screens, or one? [11:32] one : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2) [11:33] Ok, pretty new one. novueau - the free driver for nvidia usually handles the card pretty ok [11:34] ok ill get it..thanks :) [11:34] noveau is already installed [11:34] It's the one you get with the OS [11:35] You'll want to get the nvidia proprietary driver [11:36] ah...command? [11:36] There might be an application starter for "Extra drivers" somewhere in the menu [11:36] Or, you can use the gui program called something like Software Properties. Think you should be able to start it with the command: software-properties-gtk [11:37] Under the tab for extra drivers, you should see some alternatives [11:37] There's a package called nvidia-current, but that won't install the latest drivers [11:37] If you type: sudo apt-get install nvidia- [11:37] i see none of that.... [11:37] and then hit the TAB button a couple of times [11:37] ..you should see some alternatives [11:38] theres an additional software tab which is blank, and another 'other software' one which has nothing to do with nvidia [11:39] Those are for repository settings. Not what I'm after [11:39] thats what the command got me [11:39] Are you on Ubuntu Studio 14.04? [11:40] It's the same app, but there should be a tab for extra drivers, or additional drivers, or something like that [11:40] But, I don't know which OS you are on, even, so :) [11:40] I'm assuming Ubuntu Studio, since you are asking here [11:40] yup i am on that....but the additional drivers was blank [11:41] Make sure the "restricted" repo in the first tab is toggled on [11:41] That's where the drivers live [11:44] A full list of anything having to do with NVIDIA can be found doing: apt-cache search nvidia [11:44] You only want one package [11:44] nvidia- [11:44] I think nvidia-current would install nvidia-304, which is not the latest version [11:46] ..and this is a regular install, right? Not on a virtual machine, or something like that. [11:46] Ah, of course it is (lspci ..) [11:47] there was no restricted toggle?? :o [11:49] wait....a guy from #ubuntu gave me a command...ill try it and see if it works... [11:49] SohamG: http://i.stack.imgur.com/LeBSz.png [11:49] Third toggle from the top [11:49] Proprietary Drivers for devices (restricted) [11:50] oh that...it was ticked [11:50] That's an older version, so it doesn't have the "additional drivers" tab [11:51] SohamG: Should look like this http://www.binarytides.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/ubuntu-software-updates-nvidia.png [11:51] it did.... [11:51] but it doesnt :O [11:51] I'm saying the picture didn't have the additional drivers tab, since it's from an older version [11:53] Anyway, I've told all the ways you can get it installed [11:53] So, good luck [11:53] ok....:/ [11:54] sudo apt-get install nvidia- (replace with the correct version you want to use) [13:34] zequence : do you think that the nvidia drivers are not showing up in the 'software and updates' cause i am in india? [13:35] soham_, more likely you need to enable partner repositories in software sources [13:40] i have all tick boxes ticked.... [13:40] hello ubuntu studio! [13:41] banging my head against the wall with jack. anyone care to help out? [13:42] cfhowlett : i have everything enabled [13:43] soham_, bring your question to #ubuntu for more eyes on [13:43] ok === soham_ is now known as SohamG [14:20] zymm: just tell us what's wrong [14:20] i usually bruteforce my jack settings === max is now known as Guest18364 [14:55] audio set? [14:56] come si resetta l'audio di ubuntu [14:57] !fr [14:57] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [14:57] actually.. [14:57] !it [14:57] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [14:57] !audio | Guest18364 [14:57] Guest18364: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [14:58] okey you can help me to reset my audio card? [14:58] Guest18364: software cant do that [14:59] Guest18364: you'll need to ask the manufacturer of the hardware how you are to reset that device [14:59] if you are asking how to reset the audio in your ubuntu installation to default.. what have you done? [15:00] if you have added PPA's and broken the system in some way, we dont have a "reset to default" button.. i will need more details [15:00] a fresh install is always an easy way to reset to default.. depending on how much hassle its going to be to "save" the current install [15:00] ubuntu studio can change the volume but ai dont hearing [15:01] yes sir [15:01] Guest18364: you can change the volume? but you cant hear anything? [15:01] Guest18364: that doesnt make any sense.. have you tried the !it channel? [15:01] Guest18364: are you using JACK? [15:02] join ubuntu-it [15:02] ... /join #ubuntu-it [15:02] *details* :) [15:13] 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-343' is giving me 'Unable to locate....' i am trying to get drivers for my gtx 750ti. How do i fix this? [15:13] !nvidia [15:13] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [15:14] SohamG: i would just search "nvidia" in the pacakge manager of your choice.. or use the GUI on the software sources [15:14] !tab [15:14] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [15:15] you can also use tab complete to be sure you are actually referring to the file/package properly.. [15:27] holstein : i tried 2 different IRC commands and tried the software and updates GUI...nothing has worked... [15:38] SohamG: irc commands? [15:38] SohamG: dont just randomly input commands you see [15:39] SohamG: open whatever software package manager you want to use, update the sources cache, and search nvidia [15:39] holstein : i dint even realize what a silly mistake i had done :P..by irc i meant terminal apt-get commands.... [15:39] SohamG: in the software sources GUI, you will see "restricted drivers" [15:39] SohamG: *if* a driver is avialable, it will show up [15:40] SohamG: nvidia doesnt have to provide you with a linux driver, since they didnt promise you they would.. so, there may not be one for your hardware [15:40] thats what many have told me...but nothing showed up...and i have a gtx 750ti....and i am *pretty* sure it has a linux driver... [15:41] SohamG: you can be assured that nvidia didnt promise you linux support [15:41] my point of doing this is to get 1920x1080 resolution..is there any other way to get it? [15:41] SohamG: i would just use the included default opensource driver and try the GUI arandr [15:42] SohamG: dont assume that *if* you get a proprietary driver working, that its going to address your resolution issue.. [15:42] it could have other negatives that you dont want [15:42] shoould i try to run the .exe that the card shipped with? [15:43] SohamG: thats for the windows support they promised you [15:44] SohamG: it will not work, and is not intended to work with linux, or any other operting system, or other versions of windows [15:44] ah.... [15:44] SohamG: you *should* try the tool "arandr" and see if you can force the resolution you are asking about [15:45] SohamG: you should then look at the GUI for the proprietary software.. see if you are offered a proprietary option there [15:45] what do you refer to by 'proprietary software? [15:46] SohamG: nvidia doesnt give a driver to linux for you to have [15:46] so? [15:46] SohamG: intel, for example, does.. so, when you install linux, the linux kernel has the driver *in* the kernel [15:46] ah... [15:46] SohamG: *so*, when you install nvidia hardware, you are not given that driver.. by default [15:46] so i need to....? [15:47] SohamG: ubuntu, linux, ubuntustudio *any* linux *cant* included that driver [15:47] SohamG: you need to try the tool friend. arandr [15:47] !info arandr [15:47] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (utopic), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB [15:47] you can see if you can make the resolution higher with the GUI tool arandr while using the open source driver you are using now [15:47] not working....cant force 1920x1080...... [15:48] SohamG: in arandr? [15:48] YES [15:48] SohamG: no caps, please [15:48] sorry...yes [15:48] SohamG: your patiences will be what allows me to provide support for the device that nvidia doesnt provide support for, now that you are doing what they have *not* intended you to to [15:49] patience* [15:49] SohamG: please open the source GUI from the menu, and look for proprietary drivers in the proprietary drivers tab [15:49] SohamG: are you able to find that? are you offered any alternative drivers? [15:50] if by src gui you mean software-properties-gtk, then it doesnt show *anything* [15:50] SohamG: so, you literally have a blank box? [15:51] pretty much...but others i have asked have gotten stuff in that box... [15:51] SohamG: pretty much? is the box blank? or no? [15:51] SohamG: i need details, friend.. you can take screenshots if that helps you better assist me [15:51] yes it is...only says 'no additional driver available' [15:52] and i have added a ppa i was told elsewhere [15:52] SohamG: then, there may actually be *no* driver available for that hardware [15:52] !ppa [15:52] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [15:52] SohamG: what ppa? from where? [15:52] this one : https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [15:53] from a person in #ubuntu [15:53] SohamG: please open a terminal, and run [15:53] run what? [15:53] "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-331" [15:54] SohamG: please note that we are not responsible for that driver.. and that you can end up with more issues than you have now [15:54] SohamG: i suggest, use the hardware "as-is" and purchase with linux support in mind in the future [15:55] yup...i have already updated so can i skip that?? and i was kinda forced to use linux when my windows failed me while trying to dual boot [15:55] SohamG: dont skip *anything [15:55] SohamG: linux wont "Fix" broken hardware.. if "windows failed" due to bad hardware.. [15:56] SohamG: please literally do *exatly* this.. open a terminal and run.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-331" [15:56] !paste [15:56] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:56] no no it dint because of bad hardware....it *might* be because i have a apu-gpu combo... [15:56] SohamG: you can paste the output if you'd like me to help you parse it.. othrewise, dont skip *anything* [15:57] SohamG: *all* hardware fails, so it ill do you well to test for that.. [15:57] SohamG: nothing about ubuntu is preventing nvidia from supporting that apu-gpu under linux [15:57] SohamG: please try installing the driver from the ppa you added.. [15:57] ohk....but i had frequent blue screens with windows.... [15:57] yes yes its happening now [15:58] SohamG: sure.. that *typically* means bad/failing hardware [15:58] but my pc is hardly a year old... [15:58] SohamG: *all* hardware *will* fail [15:58] is it because i have a slightly older mobo or what? [15:59] SohamG: im not saing yours is bad.. im saying, you shouldnt assume its all software related [15:59] SohamG: if hardware is failing, installing linux wont help [15:59] i highly doubt a failure...everything is fine with just a random hiccuo here and there...is that hardware too? [15:59] SohamG: sure, friend.. but, *if* you continue having issues, test, so you can be certain.. [16:00] how do i test? [16:00] SohamG: bad ram can usually be described as "a hiccup".. [16:00] but how do i check if its faulty? [16:01] SohamG: the manufacturer of the hardwqre may provide a utility.. or, you can use *any* live ubuntu iso or installation.. in the menu there is a memtest [16:01] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest for example [16:02] ok...didnt know that.. [16:02] but, im not saying that is your issue.. just that, *if* you have issues in windows, installing linux doesnt "fix" anything, if the issue is hardware [16:03] running *any* operating system on hardware that was not intended to run the operating system can force compromises [16:03] yup i got that..i dualed linux cuz it's simply cool :P....anyway, there is no memtest in the menu for studio.. [16:04] nvidia is welcome to provide you a driver, like the *.exe they gave you for whatever version/s of windows they promised you support for.. they can also give the support to main linux, and it would just be included, like all the other drivers [16:04] SohamG: there *is* memtest in the grub menu of *all* ubuntus [16:04] SohamG: thats why i suggested it [16:05] SohamG: if you literally just now started looking for it, maybe just take a minute to review https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest and note the details.. or, tell me more details about what you are trying [16:06] SohamG: try asking questions.. that helps me help you.. "there is no memtest in the menu for studio" is not a quesiton, for example. its a definitive statement.. [16:06] grub menu? and i am trying to figure out what went wrong with my windows.... [16:06] SohamG: ubuntu, linux, and/or ubuntustudio are not intended for that [16:07] SohamG: they dont have "what happened to my windows" areas.. you can use them to move or recover data.. but, you can do that without installing them [16:07] oh and i misunderstood 'menu' i thought it was the one on the topbar....and to repeat myself, i was intending to get linux cuz it was cool, but in that process i messed up my windows... [16:07] !dualboot [16:07] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [16:08] regardless of what operating system or systems you are installing, one should have backups or clones, or ways to recover [16:08] I *am* using studio as i type...and the messing up of windows, i *think* was shut cause i shut it down abruptly... [16:08] *all* hard drives fail. so plan for that totaly failule, and you can recover from any breakage [16:08] and yes, i should have been more prepared... [16:09] SohamG: shutting down any OS like that can cause issues.. [16:09] you can go into the windows install now, and get the data out.. and ask the manufacturer for recovery media [16:09] you can then, recover windows.. and reinstall linux [16:09] i suggest using main ubuntu, or xubuntu.. [16:10] yes i know...but in the past, with winXP (i was using win7) i could shut it down any way i liked and it didnt complain... [16:10] SohamG: no [16:10] and i dont happern to have the install disk.... [16:10] SohamG: you can *never* hard reset machines like that [16:10] SohamG: it *will* cause an issue, eventually,.. with the hard drive [16:11] well that explains a *lot* for me... [16:11] SohamG: you can ask the manufacturer for one, since, they sold it to you, and you paid for it [16:11] they sometimes want a few bucks to print the media.. some of them provide a download link.. or just give them to you free [16:11] um..i am sorry...but..i didnt exactly pay for it..... [16:11] you can try fsck [16:11] SohamG: you should.. and can [16:12] please dont be mad at me....i pirated it... [16:12] SohamG: then, buy the disc, and enjoy the support for the os you want to use [16:12] otherwise, that is *quite* dangerous.. especially these days [16:13] google searching "windows 8" or "windows10 installation torrent" can just get you to some *really* serious malware [16:13] um..i am a teen...and dont really have the money for it...and i live in india...the anti piracy laws havent made it here quite yet [16:13] SohamG: oh. im not even talking about "laws", friend [16:13] Is the Recovery partition still there? [16:13] SohamG: its not "legal" for you to have the product.. its agains the EULA.. doenst matter where you are [16:14] SohamG: but, thats not the point.. the point is, its not "safe" to use pirated software like that [16:14] SohamG: linux/ubuntu is freely available.. i suggest you try it if $$ is a deal break for you. which i understand [16:14] waykool99: its pirated.. no recovery partition [16:14] i know...but whats the option...when i make my own money i will *definitely* buy it then..but...now.. [16:14] SohamG: the option is as i said.. use linux.. its free [16:15] SohamG: otherwise, you are taking risks.. and you are seeing one of the issues with such risks.. a lack of proper support [16:16] Use GParted live cd. In Terminal type Testdisk. You can Copy your windows recovery partition to an "Image" file. Then burn to CD-R. [16:16] i literally dont care what or how you steal what you steal.. im not the police or your mom.. all im saying is, if you think you can run pirated software these days, and not get malware "baked" into it, you are not being realistic [16:17] thanks waykool99, but i am pretty sure a simple fix from the installation disc should fix it.. [16:17] if $$ is an issue (which i understand completely being a musician) take advantage of the software that i and other volunteers work and donate time to to make sure you can have it free [16:17] SohamG: the ubuntu disks are not intended to do those fixes.. but, you can try fsck [16:17] Does install disc have a Repair section? [16:18] and holstein, i totally agree with you..i even tried asking my parents to buy a copy but they wont bulge.. [16:18] and i can get hold of a install disc... [16:18] a windows one [16:18] Musician here also [16:18] http://smallbusiness.chron.com/run-chkdsk-ubuntu-54071.html with chkdsk for example [16:18] SohamG: then, you use linux, friend. or another free of charge option [16:18] you might be able to fix it with Trinity Recue Kit: http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KIT____CPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTER&front_id=12&lang=en&locale=en [16:19] waykool99: then ubuntu install disc doenst have "fix windows" options [16:19] I would just use Linux though [16:19] yeah.. i dont see what the issue is.. i dont have money for windows.. so use linux [16:19] it doesnt cost anything [16:19] Sorry i stepped i late. Perhaps this goes deeper. [16:19] *in late [16:20] holstein..the real issue is not having money...the mindset of us indians is different...'if you can get it for free, why pay for it??!?' [16:21] chkdsk is what i would try.. if i had a broken operating system from force power off [16:21] and yes ill try those solutions mentioned [16:21] SohamG: sure.. i *get* that friend. linux is free of cost [16:21] SohamG: its free.. i donate my time so that you can have it free [16:21] yup...thats one thing that makes it cool...but does canonnical run on donations then? [16:21] SohamG: and, the legal issues aside, pirating is not a good idea.. there can be malware in it [16:21] SohamG: *i* dont run on donations [16:22] SohamG: canonical is not ubuntu and ubuntu is not canonical.. [16:22] Agrees with holstein [16:22] SohamG: you and i are ubuntu.. canonical is a company that pays the bills [16:22] ah xD...but how does ubuntu and other linux distro companies get finds? [16:22] *funds? [16:23] SohamG: others do what they do. some *dont* get funds [16:23] SohamG: ubuntu is "funded" in part by canonical [16:23] Donations and pure love and obsession with writing code. [16:23] the majority of the costs.. [16:23] developers.. bandwidth.. etc [16:23] ahh... [16:23] but, not *all* of making a community and software requires money [16:23] some of it just requires time [16:24] there are no paid ubuntustuduio developers.. yet, there is an operating system on top of ubuntu [16:24] i understand..know.. [16:24] ubuntustuduio specifically makes *no* money.. but, the ubuntu community is open and ubuntustudio can take advantage of the ubuntu sources and run ubuntustudio on top of that.. and what canonical funds [16:26] Ubuntu studio allocates resources diffently hence it uses a different GUI [16:26] and the commands you gave above did work...but i still cant go 1920x1080 [16:26] SohamG: sure.. and you were not promised you could.. [16:26] SohamG: be sure you let nvidia know you would like to use the products they make in linux [16:27] so how do i fix the resolution issue? [16:27] What graphics card do you have? [16:27] gtx 750ti [16:27] SohamG: well, its not "broken", so you have to basically re-think what you are asking [16:27] SohamG: nothing is broken to be fixed. linux is doing *exactly* what you were promised, and actually, the nvidia card is doing much more than what you were promised [16:28] SohamG: there is nothing that linux or ubuntu is doing to prevent you from having the resolution you want.. but there is little it can do to force that from happening [16:28] A dev in secondliife gave me fix. When first booting, pull up terminal window. Type config-nvidia i think [16:29] SohamG: what would i do? i would try live iso's of different versions of ubuntu.. 12.04, 14.04, 14.10.. xubuntu.. and see if anythingi works "better" out of the box [16:29] *then*, i would consider that i was not promised linux support, and maybe just enjoy that its working at all. and purchase with linux support in mind in the future [16:30] SohamG: i have a dual nvidia ion GPU.. its problematic in linux.. but, i found workarounds.. it was not trivial.. but, i realize i was not promised linux support for the dual GPU, and accepted the compromise [16:30] DVD of 12.04 lets you create new PW for root login. Just log out, select chaange different user.\ [16:30] i prefer and want to run linux.. so, i decide to take that on [16:31] a team of professionals were hired by nvidia to make sure that hardware works flawlessly in windows kwith a proper supported driver.. you take that on yourself when you want to run *any* other operating system than nvidia doesnt support [16:31] PW?? and i want to run linux, and so i wanted to fix the issue, and thats what got me here... [16:31] SohamG: nothing is broken, friend [16:32] SohamG: the resolution issue is not breakage.. it may be that the linux driver is doing the best that it can for you.. and nvidia doesnt provide you a linux driver [16:32] sorry wrong word...i wanted to get the resolution i wanted [16:32] Holstein, i'm testing back and forth between nVidia's and the open source drivers. Open source has way improved from years ago [16:33] SohamG: breakage would be, "on the box, nvidia said i get a certain resolution".. or, "at the ubuntu site, i was promised a certain resolution with nvidia hardware".. but, neither of those are true [16:33] but the command 'apt-get install nvidia-334' DID work.... [16:33] Ooo. Good [16:33] SohamG: 337 was what i suggested [16:34] ya thats what i meant..i used the command ypu gave above.. [16:34] SohamG: you can look and see if you actually have the driver running or not.. there is a tool for creating the xorg.conf that i use [16:34] and currently, i havent installed any driver...and whats the tool called? [16:34] If you DL drivers from nVidia.com, whats next after you type open, run? [16:35] SohamG: no.. the command i gave above is for 331 [16:35] SohamG: you *did* install the driver [16:35] oh right just now..xD [16:35] SohamG: that comand i gave installs the module into the kernel.. the one that you should try.. the one that you added the sources for [16:36] SohamG: i suggest looking and seeing *exactly* what driver you are using.. and see about enabling the one you just installed, and test it first.. *before* trying anything else, like the driver from the nvidia site [16:36] so should i try 337? [16:36] SohamG: i have *no* idea [16:36] SohamG: i would try the one you just installed [16:36] Nods agrees [16:36] maybe a reboot? [16:36] Absolutely [16:36] SohamG: oh, you'll need to reboot.. [16:36] SohamG: what guide are you following? [16:37] the one right here...:P [16:37] SohamG: no. you came here having added a ppa.. and referring to a guide.. what guide? [16:38] no...i dont remember any guide...i was refering to what other people i have told me on other channels [16:38] SohamG: you referenced a guide that added the PPA.. [16:38] SohamG: anyways.. let me give you the guide i found.. [16:39] Believe it or not, a dying power supply can cause graphics cards to go black, lower resolution. Like the dreaded 800x600 [16:39] yup ^ [16:39] but, i have already suggested testing the hardware.. [16:39] also, malware from "bad" pirated windows can infect the bios these days.. [16:40] SohamG: http://askubuntu.com/questions/469377/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-shows-black-screen-gtx-750-ti is what i would follow [16:40] what should i do to check if my PSU is faulty? [16:40] sudo apt-get install nvidia-337 for example [16:40] SohamG: you can hire professionals that will test the power.. you can swap it out.. or just rule other things out [16:40] SohamG: you need to be careful with power.. [16:41] ok [16:41] Holstein, you wouldn't believe the BIOS hell i went through in new Asus laptop. [16:43] waykool99: :/ [16:45] CMOS was set to seek and find EFI file telling it to reinstall win8.1 IF it happened to get Deleted, which i did in Live dvd GParted. [16:45] i just buy machines with linux on them.. no hassle :) [16:46] Really? [16:46] if somebody wants me to take an operating system off of something and force another one on, i have a rate for that.. [16:46] I think MS bullied Dell into killing off ubuuntu [16:46] ? [16:46] its just a company.. they made a business decision [16:47] Yea. Dell used to advertise Ubuntu Desktop installs. [16:47] i dont remember any advertising about that.. but, you can buy linux machines, thats for sure [16:48] Yes. Clicked some banner ads recently that are custom building ubuntu installs. [16:49] i even downloaded the official dell iso's for ubuntu for a few machines that i repaired [16:49] Really? [16:49] they were listed in the downloads for the hardware [16:49] You can access dell's FTPs? [16:49] Wow [16:50] holstein, you have a computer business or something like that? [16:50] You use Service Code to get them? [16:50] SohamG: not really. im a musician, and im good with computers, so i get hired occasionally [16:50] waykool99: TBH, i dont remember. i just looked and got what i needed [16:51] i knew the machines were shipped with linux and windows as well [16:51] holstein : and thats why you use ubuntu studio , for the audio features built in? [16:52] No. 6 pc's. Home. Use for recording, DJing on internet and song writer.. was using Audacity. But becoming very very curious about Ardour [16:52] SHHH! (I hate desktop. Only use studio since early 2010) [16:52] SohamG: not really [16:53] SohamG: i prefer, and want ardour, and jack... and i use ubuntu for that.. [16:53] ardour??jack?? [16:53] SohamG: correct.. which, if you are not using, or interested in using, you really dont need to be using ubuntustuduio [16:53] SohamG: its a matter of community supporto [16:54] SohamG: you can literally be the *only* person with your hardware trying to run ubuntustudio.. and ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu, but, you can join a larger community upstream, since, you have no need for anything ubuntustuduio if providing you [16:54] xubuntu is larger.. and main ubuntu even larger [16:54] When you get a chance, play with IDJC. Besides DJing it has multi-trrack recording posssibilites [16:55] Xubuntu is only ubuntu i haven't tried [16:55] i am using ubuntu studio cause my friend had downloaded it for checking it out and thats all i had handy...i have *terrible* internet atm... [16:55] like less than 1mbps down... [16:56] Same here. 1Mbps up and down [16:56] But mostly download peaks at 3 Mbps. [16:57] but the sad thing is i pay about 30$.... [16:57] how? [16:58] i mean, you have *no* money for anything ;) [16:58] Used to have RR Extreme. 5 Mbps up, 30 Mbps down. It rocked. My routers, swities hubs pcs couldnt keep up [16:59] Now comcast is buying time warner. Everyones wondering whats going to happen to our rates [16:59] waykool99: you need not wonder.. i promise, they wont go down ;) [17:00] And comcast throttled bandwidth without telliing customers, alledgilly [17:00] I have comcast unfortunately. Great connection 50+Mbps down, 10 Mbps up. But customer service is a nightmare [17:00] holstein, as i mentioned above, its not not having money, its the wrong mindset....and i live with my parents... [17:00] Yes i'm heard [17:01] anyway gotta go now guys thanks for the awesome help :) [17:01] Worked 4 years Tier 1 tech support at road runner/time warner [17:01] Glad to offer help. Thank you Soham\ [17:03] I don't think the FCC has cleared the merger yet.... [17:05] Don't know more options. On Sprint cellphone and 7" samsung tablet plus cable insternet. Sprints G4 seems way more expenssive than cable, by comparison. [17:07] Sprints G4 rocks but 10 miles away, switches to G3 and bandwidth chokes [17:07] I could totally run full time on my Tmobile connection since I get 30+Mbps down and around 8Mbps up. Its not to shabby. Only thing is my house would have no internet for my server when I'm not home :( [17:07] Aww :( [17:08] My neighborhood is comcast exclusive too. So I don't really have much of a choice with providers. [17:08] Wish i could dump 2 year Tablet wSprint contract [17:09] Same here. Time warners owned this area since CableVision [17:10] Thinks Comcast will win dispite all those screaming net-neutrality. [17:11] yeah lawmakers don't understand or care enough [17:12]