[00:57] <kappri> hey guys
[00:58] <slickymaster> !hi | kappri
[02:33] <knosys> hi
[05:46] <fidelity> hello
[05:51] <fidelity> How to upgrade to 14.10
[05:51] <fidelity> ?
[08:30] <Guido1> how do i changneg from  xfce4-power-manager panel plugin to Power Manager Plugin? (how and where do i unsinstaal the old one and add the new one)
[08:43] <Guido1> and are there other changes which i have to do manualy after upgrading from xubuntu 14.04 to 14.10?
[08:44] <knome> Guido1, did you by any chance look at the release announcement?
[08:45] <Guido1> knome: yes, but i don't know how to change the xfce4-power-manager panel plugin to Power Manager Plugin and i saw something with a design
[08:50] <Guido1> knome: what are the steps to uninstaal and instaal the new power manager plugin?
[10:28] <Wizard> Hi.
[12:03] <nomic> should I use a radeon driver amd from fglrx-updates or fglrx -- whats the difference (anyone)
[12:04] <nomic> getting dual head working rgb / dvi
[12:04] <nomic> says it recognises dvi monitor .. but so far no picture on it .. will try driver now .. then xrandr etc
[12:04] <nomic> or just configure it through "display"
[12:05] <nomic> am trying "fglrx" I reckon -updates is 'post release updated'
[12:33] <Guido1> by the xubuntu realease nots iut is writen "Upgraders from Trusty will not see the new xfce4-power-manager panel plugin by default, but instead stick to indicator-power. This can easily be resolved by uninstalling indicator-power and adding the “Power Manager Plugin” to the panel." how do i do that?
[12:36] <brainwash> Guido1: right click on the panel > add new item
[12:36] <brainwash> then select the Power Manager Plugin
[12:37] <Guido1> brainwash: which panel? and how to remove the old one?
[12:37] <brainwash> the top panel
[12:38] <brainwash> to remove the old indicator simply run "sudo apt-get remove indicator-power" and relog
[12:39] <Guido1> what do you mean with "relog"?
[12:39] <brainwash> terminate your current graphical session
[12:39] <brainwash> and login again
[12:40] <Guido1> so reboot, okee
[12:40] <brainwash> well, reboot works too
[12:40] <Guido1> does the Power Manager Plugin has a specific name in the list or do i have to ad it via a starter?
[15:03] <cert> Hi, I'd like to ask advice - I'm polishing and setting a fresh install of xubuntu trusty tahr for my friend on his laptop and I want to enable him set a folder as shared in LAN. There are several ways to enable local networking in xubuntu to be found in the ubuntu forums, but I'd like to know, which is the cleanest in order not to pollute xfce4 flavour and so on. On my desktop I've got ubuntustudio trusty tahr... although its desktop is also  based
[15:03] <cert> on xfce4, it's shipped with better set and equipped samba, so installing system-config-samba was enough to make my life easier, but it's not the sufficient solution for xubuntu.
[15:03] <holstein> !samba
[15:04] <holstein> maybe.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo ..depends on what is being shared, and how big.. and how often it is to be accessed.. and if syncing is needed or not
[15:05] <cert> thx
[15:05] <holstein> cert: xubuntu *is* ubuntu, so whatever you used for samba will work here.. assumimg its what you are looking for, i would just use it
[15:11] <cert> yes, but some tutorials are using nautilus as a part of solution and it seemed to me like polluting the xfce flavour by gnome
[15:11] <holstein> cert: dont use nautilus
[15:11] <holstein> cert: hey.. dont use samba, if you dont want it
[15:12] <holstein> i typically just setup ssh on all the machines, and connect as needed to move things between the machines.. if i need syncing, i'll just use something that does that.. like syncthing
[15:12] <holstein> cert: you can replace nautilus with the filemanager you are using.. or want to use.. you can use gigolo to mount ssh shares and navigate them in whatever filemanager you want to use
[15:12] <holstein> !info gigolo
[15:13] <holstein> this may not be appropriate for what you are trying to give to someone else..
[15:35] <cert> I want to make one of his home folders shared in the small home network. Thunar with gigolo support works fine for viewing other computers' shared content but his laptop isn't visible neither from windows 7 of my neighbor nor from my ubuntustudio. I thought, it's because xubuntu 14.04 is shipped with smbclient only and full installation of samba will make his laptop visible. Am I all right? Sorry for dumb questions but networking isn't my cup of tea
[15:35] <cert> ... as I use ubuntu studio I know much more about connecting computer to audio/video input/output devices than about connecting two computers together O:).
[15:43] <holstein> cert: you will want samba to share to windows.. *or* install software in the windows machines that allow connecting to ssh share or whatever
[15:43] <holstein> cert: or, a service like syncthing on all machines
[16:23] <entreri> hello, I would like to use Ubuntu but with TWM windows manager. How to disable the main current desktop environment and the login screen ?
[16:23] <entreri> disabling xfce and the login screen
[16:24] <relaxed> install twm, logout of xfce and click the small gear at the top of the login screen and select twm.
[16:25] <entreri> relaxed: the problem is the login screen
[16:25] <entreri> I still see the xfce login screen, I want to boot in TTY and startx myself
[16:26] <holstein> !text
[16:26] <holstein> entreri: ^
[16:26] <relaxed> well, you can load twm through xfce's login screen too, or follow the above advice.
[16:41] <entreri> holstein: thanks for the reply. But what if I don't want to do this each time ? Any way to disable the login manager and the desktop manager for good ?
[16:41] <entreri> any service I should remove
[16:41] <holstein> entreri: the kernel mode line does that
[16:41] <holstein> entreri: you can just add it
[16:42] <entreri> holstein: then I can start X manually ?
[16:42] <holstein> entreri: then, you get *exactly* what that kernel mode line faciliates.. text only mode
[16:42] <relaxed> there's probably a way to do it via systemd as well.
[16:43] <holstein> you can start with a mini or server iso as well..
[16:43] <holstein> !mini
[16:43] <holstein> and just add what you want.. and only what you want
[16:45] <relaxed> google says "sudo systemctl disable graphical.target"
[16:50] <cert> holstein: ok, windows share solved - I've installed samba with winbind and friens xubuntu laptop appeared in the windows workgroup at our router. It's visible and accesible. But there remains still a bit lack of networking support in comparance to my ubuntustudio desktop - in the thunar's network places of both linux computers there's my desktop visible and accesible even outside of windows workgroup but friend's xubuntu laptop not. It seems to me t
[16:50] <cert> hat there's something missing (packages or setting) in xubuntu 14.04 fresh install that allows networking between two unix like systems without windows networking support (samba). Have you an idea where's the difference making my ubuntu studio 14.04 showing both in windows workgroup and outside of it with distro-native packages and settings and how to make xubuntu 14.04 visible outside of windows workgroup as well?
[16:51] <holstein> cert: could be.. or misconfituration.. or networking setup..
[16:52] <holstein> cert: you can look through the package managers on both and see.. but, i would start with what exactly it is you are looking for? and see if you can add a plugin for the browser
[16:56] <cert> it's rather network's than thunar's problem because my ubuntu studi desktop is visible also outside of workgroup in both thunars at both linux machines. Never mind - windows networking was the main aim anyway ;).
[16:58] <cert> thx a lot for your assistance
[20:18] <ThePendu1um> Hey
[20:20] <ThePendu1um> l
[20:21] <ThePendu1um> When I use the brightness control buttons on a laptop with the latest Xubuntu, the brightness does change, but the display settings pop up
[20:21] <ThePendu1um> Any way to prevent this from happening?
[20:21] <ThePendu1um> They don't just pop up, they pop up on press and release, so I end up with 50 of the damn windows :P
[20:22] <holstein> ThePendu1um: hmmm.. you mean, something opens that doesnt automatically go away? would you mind taking a screenshot?
[20:27] <ThePendu1um> holstein: It's just the display settings
[20:27] <ThePendu1um> Like, the actual full setting panel for it
[20:28] <ThePendu1um> It opens as if you would've clicked on it in settings center
[20:28] <ThePendu1um> And does that as you hold the button to change the brightness, so you end up with several dozen instances on it
[20:28] <ThePendu1um> I could take a screenshot, but it wouldn't add much I think
[20:29] <krytarik> ThePendu1um: Please see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244015
[20:30] <Airbander> Hi guys.
[20:30] <Airbander> How are you ?
[20:31] <Airbander> I need help plz yesterday i installed skype but he didnt work very well any one can help ?
[20:31] <Alexfrench> fine
[20:31] <Airbander> are you frensh ?
[20:31] <Airbander> Alex
[20:31] <Alexfrench> yes why ?
[20:31] <Airbander> nothing
[20:31] <krytarik> ThePendu1um: Also, LP bug 1319187.
[20:32] <Airbander> Guy plz how can i install a good skype i'm using 64XUbuntu
[20:33] <Azelphur> !elaborate ! Airbander
[20:33] <Azelphur> !elaborate | Airbander
[20:33] <Azelphur> whoops :)
[20:34] <ThePendu1um> krytarik: Hm, that 'fixed' it, but broke all my display control :P
[20:34] <Airbander> how install skype plz i type in terminal 'sudo apt-get install skype' dont want to work
[20:35] <Azelphur> Airbander: Skype isn't in the repositories, you'll need to get it from skypes website, they have a .deb download which is easy to install.
[20:35] <Alexfrench> and why don't you did it through ubuntu control center ?
[20:35] <ThePendu1um> Let me see if I can fix that manually. Does anyone happen to know some command that increases the display brightness by some unit?
[20:36] <ThePendu1um> Airbander: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[20:36] <ThePendu1um> Choose Ubuntu 12.04 Multiarch assuming you're running Ubuntu 12.04>
[20:36] <ThePendu1um> Click the deb, I assume your system will take care of the rest
[20:36] <Airbander> thanks guys
[20:36] <Airbander> any program like skype can be used in linux ?
[20:37] <ThePendu1um> Airbander: Skype works for Linux, and I assume all your friends are there? You can configure Pidgin to work with Skype
[20:37] <ThePendu1um> But you'll still need Skype if you want your Skype mates
[20:37] <Airbander> thanks guys
[20:38] <Airbander> Linux Users ARE Awesome
[20:38] <ThePendu1um> They come in all shapes and forms
[20:38] <ThePendu1um> Like triangular, I love those Linux users.
[20:38] <ThePendu1um> They aren't as square.
[20:39] <krytarik> !info xbacklight | ThePendu1um: This, for example
[20:39] <Alexfrench> there is linphone too
[20:39] <Azelphur> Airbander: if you're looking for alternatives, blink seems pretty cool.
[20:40] <Azelphur> but yea, Skype works
[20:41] <Airbander> ya i wich Azelphur
[20:41] <Airbander> how can i type in red color
[20:41] <Airbander> is that a Privet message ?
[20:43] <hendy> Buonasera a tutti
[20:43] <hendy> come andiamo ?
[20:43] <krytarik> !it | hendy
[20:43] <hendy> tnc
[20:43] <hendy> tnx
[20:51] <Airbander> How make a backup on linux plz
[20:51] <Airbander> how can i do it
[20:52] <Airbander> or restoration point
[20:55] <fantumcoidex> can some one message me i have a question on installing a program
[20:55] <deshipu> just ask your question here, so that everyone can learn
[20:56] <fantumcoidex> can anyone tell me how to fragrouter
[20:56] <fantumcoidex> how to install fragrouter
[20:56] <deshipu> !info fragrouter
[20:58] <fantumcoidex> ok so i take that as a no
[20:59] <brainwash> you will have to manually install it or find a PPA
[21:00] <fantumcoidex> i have tried to manually i am kinda new to this so whats a ppa
[21:00] <brainwash> !ppa
[21:01] <brainwash> there is one PPA which offers fragrouter
[21:02] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/~darklordpaunik8880/+archive/ubuntu/darkminttrustytahr
[21:02] <brainwash> but I'm not sure if it can be trusted
[22:23] <ThePendulum> It seems that the system can't be shut down with Xubuntu anymore
[22:24] <ThePendulum> It just greys out the buttons at the login screen, and when I shut down when logged in it goes to the login screen
[22:30] <brainwash> ThePendulum: anymore? after some updates or when did this start to not work properly anymore?
[22:32] <ThePendulum> A reboot fixed it, apparently
[22:32] <ThePendulum> Hopefully it doesn't come back, because I -really- am not going to train my mother how to shut a computer down through the terminal
[22:34] <brainwash> if it does, you should file a bug report on launchpad
[22:37] <ThePendulum> once I figured out what'd cause it
[22:39] <ThePendulum> cheers :)
[22:53] <Airbander> guy any one can talk to me in privet i have some questions about distro of linux and thanks
[22:54] <Airbander> i'm new user in linux i need some info
[22:59] <Airbander> none ?
[23:00] <Airbander> any expret on linux ?
[23:00] <krytarik> Airbander: Just ask in the channel.
[23:00] <Airbander> any geeks ? :D
[23:00] <slickymaster> !ask | Airbander
[23:04] <Airbander> the best distro for company computers ?
[23:10] <sleezio> hello, i'm wanting to run a program, but i suspect it might be phoning home, is there a way with iptables(or something else) to block a specific program from trying to phone home?
[23:33] <xubuntu27w> Hi, anybody there:
[23:33] <xubuntu27w> _
[23:33] <xubuntu27w> ?
[23:34] <xubuntu27w> I have installed 'impressive- presentation sodtware.
[23:34] <xubuntu27w> but can not run it
[23:34] <xubuntu27w> new in xubuntu/linux
[23:34] <xubuntu27w> am I missing somehting?
[23:51] <carrera> Greetings!
[23:52] <carrera> is the net install the only way to install 14.04 with SoftRAID?