| zh1 | wlx i did upgrade twice add to use these pair of commands cause wasnt giving just on -d, sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y on first and sudo do-release-upgrade -d /y on second upgrade, did this on a vm | 00:40 |
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| zh1 | *had | 00:40 |
| wxl | `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` didn't work? | 00:40 |
| zh1 | on first no | 00:41 |
| zh1 | i had to test all this on a vm cause am gonna send these pair of commands to a friend with lubuntu | 00:42 |
| zh1 | i had to do on first sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y | 00:43 |
| wxl | try one and if not, then try the toher | 00:43 |
| zh1 | all is alredy done was just trying to understand why that option didnt work | 00:44 |
| zh1 | at that time | 00:44 |
| wxl | hard to say why | 00:44 |
| wxl | it's strange | 00:44 |
| zh1 | yes | 00:44 |
| wxl | but -p is the fallback if it doesn't work | 00:44 |
| wxl | i think there are things the main ubuntu guys need to set up to allow -d to work | 00:44 |
| zh1 | on second upgrade just the -d worked | 00:46 |
| zh1 | wxl will it be relevant to do apt-get update upgrade before release upgrade or should i straight go to do-release-upgrade? | 01:07 |
| wxl | apt get is part of it zh1 | 01:08 |
| zh1 | so i should do use it | 01:10 |
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| krytarik | zh1: Please be aware that the "-d" flag you got suggested upgrades the system to the current *development* version, rather than the next *released* version in the available upgrade path. | 02:16 |
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| just4humans | hi all | 08:58 |
| nuubee | Hi, can someone please advise me on what protection I need if I use online banking? I have gwfu firewall enabled but am unsure if I need anything else | 11:41 |
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| Tournevis | salut | 17:53 |
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| Xpas | bonjour | 20:09 |
| Gyndawyr | hey guys | 20:41 |
| Gyndawyr | I've just installed lubuntu and generally speaking I am loving this | 20:42 |
| Gyndawyr | I've got numerous problems as well, but right now the biggest one is that my audio signal is giving me shedloads of bass | 20:44 |
| Gyndawyr | and I don't know how to tell it to not do that | 20:44 |
| Gyndawyr | I right-clicked on the speaker button and looked through "Volume Control settings" but messing around in there didn't fix anything | 20:45 |
| Gyndawyr | turns out my headphones work fine... so how do I tell lubuntu not to splerg with 2.1 speakers? | 20:54 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: what are "shedloads of bass"? Are you a heavy blockbuster booster fan? | 20:57 |
| Gyndawyr | what? | 20:58 |
| Gyndawyr | I'm saying that my speakers are acting as if the bass dial is turned up 100% | 20:58 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: yeah, what? If your headphones are working, sound fine - why should the other output be bad? | 20:58 |
| Gyndawyr | Either the speakers have broken (sad times for me) or the computer's telling the subwoofer part of these 2.1 speakers to "Go 100%!" | 20:59 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: are you using the wrong soundcard-output? Are you using an amplifier with different "sense" | 20:59 |
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| Gyndawyr | Naaw it should all work through the "green" port | 21:00 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: so you are using soundcard output for: front-speaker, subwoofer and back-speakers? | 21:00 |
| Gyndawyr | I'd call it left, right & center | 21:01 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: if so - the alsamixer should show the output-lever of the subwoofer-channel and can be tweaked there | 21:01 |
| Gyndawyr | master, front, and PCM are the only options which do anything | 21:01 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: start alsamixer in an terminal(xterm, lxterminal) and read about it usage. Check for the subwoofer channel and if you can pull up/down the level | 21:02 |
| Gyndawyr | wait I just notices LFE and "Side" are also turned up to full | 21:02 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: you may never have adjusted anything | 21:03 |
| Gyndawyr | brb while I mess with those :) | 21:03 |
| Gyndawyr | Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothing | 21:07 |
| Gyndawyr | Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothingi can see | 21:08 |
| Gyndawyr | there is no subwoofer channel that I can see* | 21:08 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: you are joking? You plugged in a subwoofer? Maybe its called "center" | 21:13 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: i would test the hardware before going on.. | 21:14 |
| Gyndawyr | it's gonna be an effort to find more 2.1 speakers... | 21:16 |
| holstein | just come out of linux stereo | 21:16 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: just plug those speakers into something else.. | 21:17 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: dont trust those labels, either.. | 21:17 |
| Gyndawyr | hahaha I have nothing else! | 21:17 |
| Gyndawyr | I think I've got an old mp3 player somewhere that I can try | 21:17 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: im just saying, try *everything*.. the labels dont have to be correct.. since the manufacturer of your hardware likely didnt provide alsa team any info | 21:18 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: holstein is speaking about the channels in alsamixer - those naming may not what you might expect | 21:19 |
| Gyndawyr | the motherboard is an AT3N7A-I | 21:19 |
| Gyndawyr | and IIRC it worked with arch linux w/LXDE | 21:19 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: i would *confirm* that "it" worked, and check the kernel and alsa versions from arch.. | 21:19 |
| Gyndawyr | okay the speakers are farting bass out of this mp3 player as well | 21:22 |
| Gyndawyr | it's not lubuntu's fault | 21:22 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: so, now you know.. you can try repairing or replacing the hardware.. or looking into a warranty.. cheers! | 21:22 |
| Gyndawyr | yeah they must have got damaged since I last used them :( | 21:23 |
| Gyndawyr | next thing: drivers for an EDUP N-1557 wireless USB - do they exist? | 21:23 |
| testdr | Gyndawyr: you are shure those speakers and their amplifiers have no tone-switch? Or loudness-switch? | 21:24 |
| holstein | !wifi | Gyndawyr | 21:24 |
| ubottu | Gyndawyr: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 21:24 |
| Gyndawyr | I've got the volume on 100% and it's still not very loud, and I've got the bass dial on about 5%, because at 0% there is no sound at all | 21:25 |
| Gyndawyr | bass is stuck on full - I blame either playing terrorcore at 100% volume to piss off my neighbours, or having damaged the wire/connector | 21:25 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: i typically just plug the wifi devices in and test them, and keep in mind, that the companies dont state or promise linux support in any wsay | 21:25 |
| holstein | way* | 21:25 |
| Gyndawyr | I threw away the box it came in and the driver disc doesn't mention what it works with | 21:26 |
| Gyndawyr | in other words, it'll be windows only :P | 21:26 |
| holstein | i then search for help (if it doesnt work) by the chipset, and also, keep in mind that devices like that are *quite* cheap these days, and consider purchasing with linux support in mind | 21:26 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: you can run "lsusb" and see if the device is being recognized.. then, "ifconfig" and see what is referenced, if anything... | 21:28 |
| Gyndawyr | it doesn't appear to be there on libusb | 21:31 |
| Gyndawyr | lsusb* | 21:31 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: then, you havse *much* larger issues, i say.. like, is the USB port broken? or supported? or turned on in the bios.. etc.. | 21:32 |
| holstein | does *anything* work in that USB port? anything that ideally, is known "good" and supported by linux.. | 21:32 |
| Gyndawyr | it's saying the USB port is there, just with nothing in it I think | 21:32 |
| Gyndawyr | sure, I think... I'll have to unplug either my *working* wireless USB or my keyboard to confirm, brb | 21:33 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: sure.. but "it" is just doing what the command is intended to do. "it" is not magic, or a test. or proof that the hardware (usb port) is working, or on in the bios | 21:33 |
| Gyndawyr | yeah my keyboard works in the slot that had the EDUP thing in a moment ago | 21:34 |
| holstein | i would take the USB wifi device to a supported operating system.. a windows machine.. i would see that it works. then, i would know the hardware is able to work.. then, i would work with the hardware til i see it in "lsusb".. then, search by chipset | 21:34 |
| Gyndawyr | I just think it's these EDUP wireless things are shite, and it's not lubuntu's fault again... | 21:34 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: anytime you say "think".. just try and think of a test that can make you certain.. | 21:35 |
| Gyndawyr | the "Tenda wireless USB" (says it's actually Railink RT5370 in lsusb) is working fine | 21:35 |
| Gyndawyr | but the EDUP claimed to be 300Mbps instead of 150 when I bought two of them -_- | 21:35 |
| holstein | i mean, if you have a pile of those laying around, just use the one that works.. | 21:35 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: *neither* likely promise linux support.. | 21:36 |
| Gyndawyr | yeah, but the 'Tenda' one worked out of the box, so either Railink or the linux community did their job :) | 21:36 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: the | 21:37 |
| Gyndawyr | I'm chuffed with this lubuntu, anyway | 21:37 |
| holstein | "linux community" can try to reverse engineer.. or, the drivers or specs can be released, allowing software to me included | 21:37 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: i have literally no idea what "chufffed" means.. | 21:37 |
| Gyndawyr | the volume control software is ugly looking, and I don't get why there's no *noob* way to put home & my computer on the desktop... | 21:37 |
| holstein | Gyndawyr: lxde is not advertised as "new user freindly".. its light. and light comes with compromises | 21:38 |
| Gyndawyr | in British slang, being "chuffed to bits" means to be happy with something | 21:38 |
| holstein | "ugly" is a matter of opinion, but, the goal is not "pretty".. the goal is light | 21:38 |
| Gyndawyr | lxde is light, but also feature rich | 21:39 |
| holstein | well, some consider it a nice balance.. | 21:39 |
| Gyndawyr | If I wanted a taskbar which did not support transparency, I'd go with LXDE or whatever the hell damn small linux uses | 21:39 |
| Gyndawyr | XFCE* | 21:39 |
| holstein | you can use whatever "panel" or dock you like | 21:40 |
| holstein | wbar is a nice light one that can be configured as one pleases | 21:40 |
| Gyndawyr | well anyway, I've gone through numerous distributions over the years; ubuntu, kubuntu, debian, arch, and all I was looking for is one that is both easy to use, light, and customizeable | 21:42 |
| holstein | well, i think you'll do better when you realize *all* of those are relative, and a matter of opinion | 21:43 |
| holstein | what you consider easy to use, can be challenging for others.. | 21:43 |
| Gyndawyr | well I have friends who stick to windows and avoid linux "cuz inconvenient" and if they see the advantages of this... perhaps they will convert :) | 21:43 |
| holstein | i say, you'll do well to just choose one "thing", like XFCE, or LXDE, or mate, or whatever, and just learn it.. inside out | 21:43 |
| holstein | the advantages of choice? | 21:44 |
| Gyndawyr | I'm gonna have to go if I want to eat today, but my point is - lubuntu is great - thank you! | 21:45 |
| holstein | enjoy | 21:45 |
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