[00:40] <zh1> wlx i did upgrade twice add to use these pair of commands cause wasnt giving just on -d, sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y on first and sudo do-release-upgrade -d /y on second upgrade, did this on a vm
[00:40] <zh1> *had
[00:40] <wxl> `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` didn't work?
[00:41] <zh1> on first no
[00:42] <zh1> i had to test all this on a vm cause am gonna send these pair of commands to a friend with lubuntu
[00:43] <zh1> i had to do on first  sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y
[00:43] <wxl> try one and if not, then try the toher
[00:44] <zh1> all is alredy done was just trying to understand why that option didnt work
[00:44] <zh1> at that time
[00:44] <wxl> hard to say why
[00:44] <wxl> it's strange
[00:44] <zh1> yes
[00:44] <wxl> but -p is the fallback if it doesn't work
[00:44] <wxl> i think there are things the main ubuntu guys need to set up to allow -d to work
[00:46] <zh1> on second upgrade just the -d worked
[01:07] <zh1> wxl will it be relevant to do apt-get update upgrade before release upgrade or should i straight go to do-release-upgrade?
[01:08] <wxl> apt get is part of it zh1
[01:10] <zh1> so i should do use it
[02:16] <krytarik> zh1: Please be aware that the "-d" flag you got suggested upgrades the system to the current *development* version, rather than the next *released* version in the available upgrade path.
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[20:41] <Gyndawyr> hey guys
[20:42] <Gyndawyr> I've just installed lubuntu and generally speaking I am loving this
[20:44] <Gyndawyr> I've got numerous problems as well, but right now the biggest one is that my audio signal is giving me shedloads of bass
[20:44] <Gyndawyr> and I don't know how to tell it to not do that
[20:45] <Gyndawyr> I right-clicked on the speaker button and looked through "Volume Control settings" but messing around in there didn't fix anything
[20:54] <Gyndawyr> turns out my headphones work fine... so how do I tell lubuntu not to splerg with 2.1 speakers?
[20:57] <testdr> Gyndawyr: what are "shedloads of bass"? Are you a heavy blockbuster booster fan?
[20:58] <Gyndawyr> what?
[20:58] <Gyndawyr> I'm saying that my speakers are acting as if the bass dial is turned up 100%
[20:58] <testdr> Gyndawyr: yeah, what? If your headphones are working, sound fine - why should the other output be bad?
[20:59] <Gyndawyr> Either the speakers have broken (sad times for me) or the computer's telling the subwoofer part of these 2.1 speakers to "Go 100%!"
[20:59] <testdr> Gyndawyr: are you using the wrong soundcard-output? Are you using an amplifier with different "sense"
[21:00] <Gyndawyr> Naaw it should all work through the "green" port
[21:00] <testdr> Gyndawyr: so you are using soundcard output for: front-speaker, subwoofer and back-speakers?
[21:01] <Gyndawyr> I'd call it left, right & center
[21:01] <testdr> Gyndawyr: if so - the alsamixer should show the output-lever of the subwoofer-channel and can be tweaked there
[21:01] <Gyndawyr> master, front, and PCM are the only options which do anything
[21:02] <testdr> Gyndawyr: start alsamixer in an terminal(xterm, lxterminal) and read about it usage. Check for the subwoofer channel and if you can pull up/down the level
[21:02] <Gyndawyr> wait I just notices LFE and "Side" are also turned up to full
[21:03] <testdr> Gyndawyr: you may never have adjusted anything
[21:03] <Gyndawyr> brb while I mess with those :)
[21:07] <Gyndawyr> Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothing
[21:08] <Gyndawyr> Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothingi can see
[21:08] <Gyndawyr> there is no subwoofer channel that I can see*
[21:13] <testdr> Gyndawyr: you are joking? You plugged in a subwoofer? Maybe its called "center"
[21:14] <holstein> Gyndawyr: i would test the hardware before going on..
[21:16] <Gyndawyr> it's gonna be an effort to find more 2.1 speakers...
[21:16] <holstein> just come out of linux stereo
[21:17] <holstein> Gyndawyr: just plug those speakers into something else..
[21:17] <holstein> Gyndawyr: dont trust those labels, either..
[21:17] <Gyndawyr> hahaha I have nothing else!
[21:17] <Gyndawyr> I think I've got an old mp3 player somewhere that I can try
[21:18] <holstein> Gyndawyr: im just saying, try  *everything*.. the labels dont have to be correct.. since the manufacturer of your hardware likely didnt provide alsa team any info
[21:19] <testdr> Gyndawyr: holstein is speaking about the channels in alsamixer - those naming may not what you might expect
[21:19] <Gyndawyr> the motherboard is an AT3N7A-I
[21:19] <Gyndawyr> and IIRC it worked with arch linux w/LXDE
[21:19] <holstein> Gyndawyr: i would *confirm* that "it" worked, and check the kernel and alsa versions from arch..
[21:22] <Gyndawyr> okay the speakers are farting bass out of this mp3 player as well
[21:22] <Gyndawyr> it's not lubuntu's fault
[21:22] <holstein> Gyndawyr: so, now you know.. you can try repairing or replacing the hardware.. or looking into a warranty.. cheers!
[21:23] <Gyndawyr> yeah they must have got damaged since I last used them :(
[21:23] <Gyndawyr> next thing: drivers for an EDUP N-1557 wireless USB - do they exist?
[21:24] <testdr> Gyndawyr: you are shure those speakers and their amplifiers have no tone-switch? Or loudness-switch?
[21:24] <holstein> !wifi | Gyndawyr
[21:25] <Gyndawyr> I've got the volume on 100% and it's still not very loud, and I've got the bass dial on about 5%, because at 0% there is no sound at all
[21:25] <Gyndawyr> bass is stuck on full - I blame either playing terrorcore at 100% volume to piss off my neighbours, or having damaged the wire/connector
[21:25] <holstein> Gyndawyr: i typically just plug the wifi devices in and test them, and keep in mind, that the companies dont state or promise linux support in any wsay
[21:25] <holstein> way*
[21:26] <Gyndawyr> I threw away the box it came in and the driver disc doesn't mention what it works with
[21:26] <Gyndawyr> in other words, it'll be windows only :P
[21:26] <holstein> i then search for help (if it doesnt work) by the chipset, and also, keep in mind that devices like that are *quite* cheap these days, and consider purchasing with linux support in mind
[21:28] <holstein> Gyndawyr: you can run "lsusb" and see if the device is being recognized.. then, "ifconfig" and see what is referenced, if anything...
[21:31] <Gyndawyr> it doesn't appear to be there on libusb
[21:31] <Gyndawyr> lsusb*
[21:32] <holstein> Gyndawyr: then, you havse *much* larger issues, i say.. like, is the USB port broken? or supported? or turned on in the bios.. etc..
[21:32] <holstein> does *anything* work in that USB port? anything that ideally, is known "good" and supported by linux..
[21:32] <Gyndawyr> it's saying the USB port is there, just with nothing in it I think
[21:33] <Gyndawyr> sure, I think... I'll have to unplug either my *working* wireless USB or my keyboard to confirm, brb
[21:33] <holstein> Gyndawyr: sure.. but "it" is just doing what the command is intended to do. "it" is not magic, or a test. or proof that the hardware (usb port) is working, or on in the bios
[21:34] <Gyndawyr> yeah my keyboard works in the slot that had the EDUP thing in a moment ago
[21:34] <holstein> i would take the USB wifi device to a supported operating system.. a windows machine.. i would see that it works. then, i would know the hardware is able to work.. then, i would work with the hardware til i see it in "lsusb".. then, search by chipset
[21:34] <Gyndawyr> I just think it's these EDUP wireless things are shite, and it's not lubuntu's fault again...
[21:35] <holstein> Gyndawyr: anytime you say "think".. just try and think of a test that can make you certain..
[21:35] <Gyndawyr> the "Tenda wireless USB" (says it's actually Railink RT5370 in lsusb) is working fine
[21:35] <Gyndawyr> but the EDUP claimed to be 300Mbps instead of 150 when I bought two of them -_-
[21:35] <holstein> i mean, if you have a pile of those laying around, just use the one that works..
[21:36] <holstein> Gyndawyr: *neither* likely promise linux support..
[21:36] <Gyndawyr> yeah, but the 'Tenda' one worked out of the box, so either Railink or the linux community did their job :)
[21:37] <holstein> Gyndawyr: the
[21:37] <Gyndawyr> I'm chuffed with this lubuntu, anyway
[21:37] <holstein> "linux community" can try to reverse engineer.. or, the drivers or specs can be released, allowing software to me included
[21:37] <holstein> Gyndawyr: i have literally no idea what "chufffed" means..
[21:37] <Gyndawyr> the volume control software is ugly looking, and I don't get why there's no *noob* way to put home & my computer on the desktop...
[21:38] <holstein> Gyndawyr: lxde is not advertised as "new user freindly".. its light. and light comes with compromises
[21:38] <Gyndawyr> in British slang, being "chuffed to bits" means to be happy with something
[21:38] <holstein> "ugly" is a matter of opinion, but, the goal is not "pretty".. the goal is light
[21:39] <Gyndawyr> lxde is light, but also feature rich
[21:39] <holstein> well, some consider it a nice balance..
[21:39] <Gyndawyr> If I wanted a taskbar which did not support transparency, I'd go with LXDE or whatever the hell damn small linux uses
[21:39] <Gyndawyr> XFCE*
[21:40] <holstein> you can use whatever "panel" or dock you like
[21:40] <holstein> wbar is a nice light one that can be configured as one pleases
[21:42] <Gyndawyr> well anyway, I've gone through numerous distributions over the years; ubuntu, kubuntu, debian, arch, and all I was looking for is one that is both easy to use, light, and customizeable
[21:43] <holstein> well, i think you'll do better when you realize *all* of those are relative, and a matter of opinion
[21:43] <holstein> what you consider easy to use, can be challenging for others..
[21:43] <Gyndawyr> well I have friends who stick to windows and avoid linux "cuz inconvenient" and if they see the advantages of this... perhaps they will convert :)
[21:43] <holstein> i say, you'll do well to just choose one "thing", like XFCE, or LXDE, or mate, or whatever, and just learn it.. inside out
[21:44] <holstein> the advantages of choice?
[21:45] <Gyndawyr> I'm gonna have to go if I want to eat today, but my point is - lubuntu is great - thank you!
[21:45] <holstein> enjoy