[00:40] wlx i did upgrade twice add to use these pair of commands cause wasnt giving just on -d, sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y on first and sudo do-release-upgrade -d /y on second upgrade, did this on a vm [00:40] *had [00:40] `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` didn't work? [00:41] on first no [00:42] i had to test all this on a vm cause am gonna send these pair of commands to a friend with lubuntu [00:43] i had to do on first sudo do-release-upgrade -d -p /y [00:43] try one and if not, then try the toher [00:44] all is alredy done was just trying to understand why that option didnt work [00:44] at that time [00:44] hard to say why [00:44] it's strange [00:44] yes [00:44] but -p is the fallback if it doesn't work [00:44] i think there are things the main ubuntu guys need to set up to allow -d to work [00:46] on second upgrade just the -d worked [01:07] wxl will it be relevant to do apt-get update upgrade before release upgrade or should i straight go to do-release-upgrade? [01:08] apt get is part of it zh1 [01:10] so i should do use it === Sachiru_ is now known as Sachiru [02:16] zh1: Please be aware that the "-d" flag you got suggested upgrades the system to the current *development* version, rather than the next *released* version in the available upgrade path. === Sachiru_ is now known as Sachiru === Sachiru is now known as Guest62909 [08:58] hi all [11:41] Hi, can someone please advise me on what protection I need if I use online banking? I have gwfu firewall enabled but am unsure if I need anything else === just4humans_ is now known as just4humans === mgodzilla is now known as mgodiez === mgodiez is now known as mgodinez [17:53] salut === mpmc is now known as WindBag [20:09] bonjour [20:41] hey guys [20:42] I've just installed lubuntu and generally speaking I am loving this [20:44] I've got numerous problems as well, but right now the biggest one is that my audio signal is giving me shedloads of bass [20:44] and I don't know how to tell it to not do that [20:45] I right-clicked on the speaker button and looked through "Volume Control settings" but messing around in there didn't fix anything [20:54] turns out my headphones work fine... so how do I tell lubuntu not to splerg with 2.1 speakers? [20:57] Gyndawyr: what are "shedloads of bass"? Are you a heavy blockbuster booster fan? [20:58] what? [20:58] I'm saying that my speakers are acting as if the bass dial is turned up 100% [20:58] Gyndawyr: yeah, what? If your headphones are working, sound fine - why should the other output be bad? [20:59] Either the speakers have broken (sad times for me) or the computer's telling the subwoofer part of these 2.1 speakers to "Go 100%!" [20:59] Gyndawyr: are you using the wrong soundcard-output? Are you using an amplifier with different "sense" === WindBag is now known as mpmc [21:00] Naaw it should all work through the "green" port [21:00] Gyndawyr: so you are using soundcard output for: front-speaker, subwoofer and back-speakers? [21:01] I'd call it left, right & center [21:01] Gyndawyr: if so - the alsamixer should show the output-lever of the subwoofer-channel and can be tweaked there [21:01] master, front, and PCM are the only options which do anything [21:02] Gyndawyr: start alsamixer in an terminal(xterm, lxterminal) and read about it usage. Check for the subwoofer channel and if you can pull up/down the level [21:02] wait I just notices LFE and "Side" are also turned up to full [21:03] Gyndawyr: you may never have adjusted anything [21:03] brb while I mess with those :) [21:07] Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothing [21:08] Master, PCM, and Front all mute *everything*, and Surround, Center, LFE etc all do nothingi can see [21:08] there is no subwoofer channel that I can see* [21:13] Gyndawyr: you are joking? You plugged in a subwoofer? Maybe its called "center" [21:14] Gyndawyr: i would test the hardware before going on.. [21:16] it's gonna be an effort to find more 2.1 speakers... [21:16] just come out of linux stereo [21:17] Gyndawyr: just plug those speakers into something else.. [21:17] Gyndawyr: dont trust those labels, either.. [21:17] hahaha I have nothing else! [21:17] I think I've got an old mp3 player somewhere that I can try [21:18] Gyndawyr: im just saying, try *everything*.. the labels dont have to be correct.. since the manufacturer of your hardware likely didnt provide alsa team any info [21:19] Gyndawyr: holstein is speaking about the channels in alsamixer - those naming may not what you might expect [21:19] the motherboard is an AT3N7A-I [21:19] and IIRC it worked with arch linux w/LXDE [21:19] Gyndawyr: i would *confirm* that "it" worked, and check the kernel and alsa versions from arch.. [21:22] okay the speakers are farting bass out of this mp3 player as well [21:22] it's not lubuntu's fault [21:22] Gyndawyr: so, now you know.. you can try repairing or replacing the hardware.. or looking into a warranty.. cheers! [21:23] yeah they must have got damaged since I last used them :( [21:23] next thing: drivers for an EDUP N-1557 wireless USB - do they exist? [21:24] Gyndawyr: you are shure those speakers and their amplifiers have no tone-switch? Or loudness-switch? [21:24] !wifi | Gyndawyr [21:24] Gyndawyr: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [21:25] I've got the volume on 100% and it's still not very loud, and I've got the bass dial on about 5%, because at 0% there is no sound at all [21:25] bass is stuck on full - I blame either playing terrorcore at 100% volume to piss off my neighbours, or having damaged the wire/connector [21:25] Gyndawyr: i typically just plug the wifi devices in and test them, and keep in mind, that the companies dont state or promise linux support in any wsay [21:25] way* [21:26] I threw away the box it came in and the driver disc doesn't mention what it works with [21:26] in other words, it'll be windows only :P [21:26] i then search for help (if it doesnt work) by the chipset, and also, keep in mind that devices like that are *quite* cheap these days, and consider purchasing with linux support in mind [21:28] Gyndawyr: you can run "lsusb" and see if the device is being recognized.. then, "ifconfig" and see what is referenced, if anything... [21:31] it doesn't appear to be there on libusb [21:31] lsusb* [21:32] Gyndawyr: then, you havse *much* larger issues, i say.. like, is the USB port broken? or supported? or turned on in the bios.. etc.. [21:32] does *anything* work in that USB port? anything that ideally, is known "good" and supported by linux.. [21:32] it's saying the USB port is there, just with nothing in it I think [21:33] sure, I think... I'll have to unplug either my *working* wireless USB or my keyboard to confirm, brb [21:33] Gyndawyr: sure.. but "it" is just doing what the command is intended to do. "it" is not magic, or a test. or proof that the hardware (usb port) is working, or on in the bios [21:34] yeah my keyboard works in the slot that had the EDUP thing in a moment ago [21:34] i would take the USB wifi device to a supported operating system.. a windows machine.. i would see that it works. then, i would know the hardware is able to work.. then, i would work with the hardware til i see it in "lsusb".. then, search by chipset [21:34] I just think it's these EDUP wireless things are shite, and it's not lubuntu's fault again... [21:35] Gyndawyr: anytime you say "think".. just try and think of a test that can make you certain.. [21:35] the "Tenda wireless USB" (says it's actually Railink RT5370 in lsusb) is working fine [21:35] but the EDUP claimed to be 300Mbps instead of 150 when I bought two of them -_- [21:35] i mean, if you have a pile of those laying around, just use the one that works.. [21:36] Gyndawyr: *neither* likely promise linux support.. [21:36] yeah, but the 'Tenda' one worked out of the box, so either Railink or the linux community did their job :) [21:37] Gyndawyr: the [21:37] I'm chuffed with this lubuntu, anyway [21:37] "linux community" can try to reverse engineer.. or, the drivers or specs can be released, allowing software to me included [21:37] Gyndawyr: i have literally no idea what "chufffed" means.. [21:37] the volume control software is ugly looking, and I don't get why there's no *noob* way to put home & my computer on the desktop... [21:38] Gyndawyr: lxde is not advertised as "new user freindly".. its light. and light comes with compromises [21:38] in British slang, being "chuffed to bits" means to be happy with something [21:38] "ugly" is a matter of opinion, but, the goal is not "pretty".. the goal is light [21:39] lxde is light, but also feature rich [21:39] well, some consider it a nice balance.. [21:39] If I wanted a taskbar which did not support transparency, I'd go with LXDE or whatever the hell damn small linux uses [21:39] XFCE* [21:40] you can use whatever "panel" or dock you like [21:40] wbar is a nice light one that can be configured as one pleases [21:42] well anyway, I've gone through numerous distributions over the years; ubuntu, kubuntu, debian, arch, and all I was looking for is one that is both easy to use, light, and customizeable [21:43] well, i think you'll do better when you realize *all* of those are relative, and a matter of opinion [21:43] what you consider easy to use, can be challenging for others.. [21:43] well I have friends who stick to windows and avoid linux "cuz inconvenient" and if they see the advantages of this... perhaps they will convert :) [21:43] i say, you'll do well to just choose one "thing", like XFCE, or LXDE, or mate, or whatever, and just learn it.. inside out [21:44] the advantages of choice? [21:45] I'm gonna have to go if I want to eat today, but my point is - lubuntu is great - thank you! [21:45] enjoy === LinusTorvaldsII is now known as LinusTorvaldII