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darkxstNoskcaj, can you take a look at the gnome-desktop transition, it should be fairly straightforward this time around04:58
darkxstNoskcaj, upower is almost done, clutter and gtk+ should hopefully be done next week04:59
Noskcajdarkxst, will do04:59
Noskcajbluez looks like it will be hard to merge though04:59
darkxstI wonder if it could be co-installed?05:00
NoskcajWhat actually needs transitioning?05:04
darkxstfor bluez5?05:04
Noskcajfor gnome-desktop05:05
Noskcajbluez5 is mostly just merging ~30 ubuntu releases05:05
darkxstoh maybe gnome-desktop doesn't need a transition this time, seem there was no soname bump05:06
darkxstNoskcaj, bluez5 has api changes, are all the upstreams or debian ported to new api?05:08
Noskcajdarkxst, no breages left in debian, so we'd just need a few merges and rebuilds, plus ubuntu-only stuff05:10
Noskcaj*breakages05:10
darkxstso it will basically be needing canonical to port their bits over05:11
Noskcajyep05:14
darkxstcan you file a tracking bug for bluez505:19
Noskcajok05:21
darkxstprobably gnome-desktop just needs the changelog cleaned up, then can be uploaded05:24
darkxstgsettings-desktop-schemas, can probably just be merged from debian, doesnt appear to be any removed keys this time05:32
Noskcajdarkxst, Is the g-d-s change to adwaita an issue?06:03
darkxstNoskcaj, yes temporarily revert that06:08
darkxsthmm no actually ubuntu override that anyway I think? check in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_ubuntu*something*overrides06:08
darkxstor 10_*.overrides06:19
NoskcajI'm on xubuntu, and nothing like that is there06:21
Noskcajwhat package would have the ubuntu ones?06:21
darkxstit maybe ubuntu-settings06:22
Noskcajicon-theme="ubuntu-mono-dark" ?06:24
* mgedmin discovers button-layout=':minimize,maximize,close' in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_ubuntu-gnome-default-settings.gschema.override06:29
mgedminbut yeah, ubuntu-settings ships /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override with [org.gnome.desktop.interface] gtk-theme="Ambiance" etc06:36
Noskcajdarkxst, merges for g-d-s and desktop are up07:35
darkxstmgedmin, I am going to drop that override shortly07:59
darkxstNoskcaj, thanks08:04
sebbbHello all! Is there a way to resize the System Monitor window smaller? because it takes half of my screen..11:58
mgedminsebbb, smallest size I can make it is 630x449: http://i.imgur.com/PA4hieD.png15:10
lindolha...15:15
lindoli finished second draft for korean release note15:16
arthurfiggishello :) i gave ubuntu gnome 14.10 a try when it was initially released and while the installation went fine, at the time, deja-dup (the default "desktop" backup utility) would crash gnome-control-center every time you tried to launch it (general protection fault according to the console error), so it was impossible to restore my backed up files...does anyone know offhand if this has been...15:19
arthurfiggis...fixed yet, or if there's an existing bug I could post to?15:19
mgedminarthurfiggis, did you search in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deja-dup ?15:20
mgedminand also in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center15:22
arthurfiggismgedmin: i had been looking at the one for gnome-control-center and i didn't see anything there resembling the problem i was having, but i'll check the deja-dup page as well, thanks15:23
mgedminI reproduced this crash last time you asked about it15:23
mgedminbut I'm also using the gnome3-staging PPA that replaces ubuntu's gnome-control-center with a newer version15:23
mgedminI don't know if the bug is in g-c-c itself or in the dejadup plugin15:24
mgedminwhich is loaded inside the g-c-c process15:24
arthurfiggismgedmin: ahh, yes i remember that someone here had confirmed it existed at least, though I wasn't sure who it was :) I wouldn't be able to say for sure myself either, since I couldn't get at any of my files I had to switch back to 14.04.1 LTS until it got sorted out15:26
mgedminah!15:31
mgedminthat is a painful situation to be in15:31
mgedminI guessing you didn't have the gnome3-staging ppa enabled?15:32
arthurfiggismgedmin: certainly is :( so far i haven't seen the bug mentioned anywhere else though, oddly enough...oh no, i just went with the default installation and used the repo packages, didn't add any ppa's or anything special15:32
Noskcajdarkxst, g-d-s breaks u-s-d. Any idea what needs patching? (pitti hasn't yet given me his crash log)19:21
darkxstNoskcaj, it would be missing or broken schema key21:29
darkxstNoskcaj, 2 patches are missing?21:29
darkxstmenu_icon_key and application_key21:30
NoskcajThe two dropped ones that were for versions of packages we no longer have?21:30
darkxstwhat do you mean?21:31
NoskcajTHe changelog descriptions for those patches were that they were for gnome stuff we've now went past, and cinnamon, which doesn't use g-d-s any more21:32
darkxstNoskcaj, u-s-d is still 3.821:34
darkxstand Metacity is still in the archvies21:34
NoskcajI'd assumed it was patched for some reason, and isn't metacity on 3.12 now?21:35
Metacity?21:35
NoskcajMetacity, You chose the wrong nickname21:35
MetacityThat much has become evident after idling in so many Linux-related channels for a while. :P21:36
darkxstNoskcaj, you can't just assume with schemas, since try to use a missing key is 100% crash21:36
Noskcajdarkxst, Lesson learned. I'll fix my branch now.21:37
darkxsta quick grep of metacity would have shown you that application key is still there!21:37
NoskcajIs there a way to check what packages still use the key, and would it be better to patch u-s-d rather than g-d-s21:38
darkxstnormally Laney's codesearch, but that seem down right now21:39
darkxstyou can't patch u-s-d, it still has the features that the keys were for21:40
Noskcajfixed22:00
NoskcajShould we be trying to get geoclue-2.0 into main?22:00
darkxstcould try, though atleast some wanted it done as a replacement to geoclue22:09
darkxstand not sure how feasible that is, things like ubuntu-geoip are probably not possible in -2.022:10
darkxstunity-webapps would also be a problem22:11
darkxstbut it certainly wouldnt hurt to file a MIR22:14

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