[03:31] <map> hu ak
[03:32] <map> hi all
[03:32] <map> urgh
[07:03] <diddledan> when a prank call ends with the correct response: http://www.xolxol.ph/2014/10/emergency-hotline-911-receives-pizza-order-from-lady-who-needs-help.html?m=0
[07:04] <diddledan> (actually do read it - it's awesome!)
[07:13] <diddledan> this looks awesome
[07:13] <diddledan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNExF5WYMaA&list=PLpTga61DBp6DlTs1DeWk3ian3h6J2z4X0
[07:14] <diddledan> oh dear, that's bad, I used "awesome" twice within two sentences
[07:54] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:56] <diddledan> morgah
[09:04] <zmoylan-pi> my favourite prank call was the reverse prank call where the receiver of the call pretended to be a cop at a horrible crime scene who started questioning the telemarketer as if they were implicated in the crime.  http://www.maniacworld.com/Best-Telemarketer-Prank-Ever.html
[09:10] <foobarry> weird. you know when you always take the same train, and then one day you take the early train, and all your usual train people are on it? i know truman show has limited actors, but...
[09:10] <foobarry> train wasn't delayed or anything
[09:15] <zmoylan-pi> when the universe syncs around you to some unknown minor event
[09:18] <foobarry> is there a name for that?
[09:21] <popey> yes
[09:21] <popey> Coincidence.
[09:21] <foobarry> is there another name for that feeling though?
[09:21] <foobarry> egocentricity :P
[09:33] <hazrpg> I have an encrypted drive, and when I recently changed my password... I try to login but it shows ".ICEauthority can't  update" or something like that, and when I check its because my home isn't being decrypted, how do I solve this?
[09:42] <popey> hazrpg: how is it encrypted? ecryptfs?
[09:45] <DJones> foobarry: Another name for it (assuming you don't like your regular passengers) is bad luck :)
[09:50] <hazrpg> popey: yeah
[09:52] <hazrpg> popey: yeah, its ecryptfs.
[09:53] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/281491/cant-log-in-after-password-change-ecryptfs
[10:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Magic Day! :-D
[10:12] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:43] <brobostigon> morning czajkowski
[11:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: listen to a little Lazard 4 o'clock in the morning :)
[11:59] <foobarry> whats the command to switch to the previous directory?
[11:59] <foobarry> in bash?
[12:00] <foobarry> cd -
[12:00] <foobarry> got it
[12:01] <brobostigon> cd ..
[12:01] <foobarry> previous , rather than parent
[12:01] <foobarry> cd - does it
[12:02] <brobostigon> ok,
[12:20] <MooDoo> davmor2: ok playing
[13:08] <map> can i scp -r a whole dir?
[13:08] <map> wanted to copy all of htdocs folder to a diff machine
[13:09] <jpds> map: Use rsync.
[13:10] <map> hm never used rsync before only heard of it
[13:10] <map> :D
[13:14] <diddledan> I use rsync as part of my deployment and development scripts
[13:14] <diddledan> VERY regularly
[13:15] <map> hnm
[13:15] <map> il have a read up
[13:15] <map> hopefully not too hard..i remember hearing in the ubuntu uk podcast it can resume transers i seem to recall someone said it can even resume broken scps
[13:15] <map> ?
[13:16] <popey> rsync is awesome
[13:16] <map> was what i said right? or am i remembering wrong
[13:21] <popey> yeah, you're right apparently
[13:21] <popey> this was news to me!
[13:23] <map> :D
[13:24] <MooDoo> i like rcync too
[13:24] <popey> MartijnVdS: is it common in .nl for children to call their parents by name rather than "mum / dad"?
[13:24] <popey> Sophie said one of her dutch school friends calls her mum by her name
[13:24] <popey> "but she's dutch" ☻
[13:24] <shauno> I use rsync for pretty much everything.  it handles resumes/partials/changes better than scp (eg, scp doesn't).  handles awkward characters, attributes, etc ..
[13:24] <MooDoo> popey: i call my mum and dad by their names.
[13:25] <popey> blimey
[13:25] <MooDoo> always have realluy
[13:35] <map> yea i call my ad by his name
[13:35] <map> *dad
[13:41] <shauno> we only used names when we had to clarify 'which dad'
[13:43] <map> i wanted to go to spinning today but wokeup at 12 and felt too tired;[
[13:43] <map> sucks fri-sun only 1 class a day
[13:45] <shauno> spinning?  like wool?
[13:46] <map> like group interval cycling
[13:46] <map> really popular with women
[13:46] <map> i was the only guy there on wednesday and i think the only brit ;]
[13:50] <foobarry> exercise class?
[13:51] <map> ja
[13:51] <map> its good
[13:51] <shauno> http://americangallery.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/woman-at-spinning-wheel.jpg   :)
[13:51] <map> haha
[13:51] <Myrtti> ♥
[13:51] <foobarry> my wife does that
[13:51] <foobarry> heh, myrrti has hilight
[13:52] <foobarry> foor wool probably
[13:52] <Myrtti> no, I just have irssi inbox 0
[13:54] <foobarry> that could be a picture of my missis
[13:55] <shauno> that would be slightly creepy
[13:55] <shauno> (I mean, if I was posting pictures of your family ..)
[13:55] <popey> irssi inbox 0 never happens for me, unless I hold down ALT+A
[13:55] <popey> and then it immediately starts
[13:56] <shauno> you'll hurt your head trying to follow conversations like that
[14:16] <zmoylan-pi> it's a friday afternoon, we've got broadband and half a cup of coffee.  it's damp out and i've got shopping to do.
[14:19] <zmoylan-pi> probably best to get to the shops before the christmas decoration go up tomorrow
[14:26] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: merry christmas ;)
[14:26] <zmoylan-pi> it's the looped crimbo muzak as you trudge around shops that drives you bonkers :-)
[14:42] <foobarry> damp where?
[14:42] <foobarry> its like august sunshine here
[14:42] <zmoylan-pi> was raining last night in dublin.
[14:47] <davmor2> popey: there is a 0 on an inbox?  That's some myth surely
[14:48] <shauno> davmor2: let me introduce you to my friend, ctrl+A  ;)
[14:50] <davmor2> shauno: I think not
[15:08] <map> rsync -v -e ssh mark@frogs.zapto.org:/usr/local/apache/htdocs/* /var/www
[15:08] <map> would that be right?
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: I think it's 50/50, yes.
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: (the parents-by-name thing)
[15:15] <popey> gotcha
[15:16] <map> Holland was good when i went..but cold :(
[15:17] <jpds> map: rsync -aPh mark@frogs.zapto.org:/usr/local/apache/htdocs/* /var/www
[15:17] <map> hm pH what are those for? the guide i read said r ensures recursive
[15:17] <map> thanks :D will do that
[15:18] <jpds> P == --progress --partial h = --human-readable.
[15:18] <map> gonna leave it running whilst i go to the gym..gonna try and rsync 11gb of data from my dell in UK
[15:18] <map> so -r isnt needed?
[15:18] <jpds> -r is part of -a == --archive.
[15:18] <map> ah
[15:18] <map> :D
[15:20] <andrewebdev> could I get into some liable issues for this: https://plus.google.com/109285932241172275424/posts/iXXYx4SNsGt
[15:20] <andrewebdev> (sorry, I know it's slightly off topic, but it's a dedicated UK crowd that probably knows more about liable laws than me)
[15:21] <map> loading
[15:21] <map> ;]
[15:22] <map> dont see how you could if what you say is true
[15:23] <popey> so https://www.digicodes.com/faqs.html is a copy of http://m.maximuscards.com/faq.html ?
[15:24] <popey> I'd reply to https://twitter.com/_zenergy/status/506703665583759360 and poke them
[15:24] <andrewebdev> nah, copy of www.evopoints.co.za
[15:24] <andrewebdev> they even copied the FAQ word for word
[15:24] <popey> http://m.maximuscards.com/faq.html also has the same text
[15:24] <andrewebdev> O.O
[15:24] <andrewebdev> dafaque
[15:24] <popey> (found by googling a chunk)
[15:25] <andrewebdev> ah no it's not exactly the same
[15:25] <andrewebdev> there's specific text that only relates to our site
[15:25] <map> someone must be abusing my sky fibre
[15:26] <map> getting 500k/s
[15:26] <map> my uk fibres 90mbit and ive got 100mbi here
[15:26] <map> :D
[15:26] <popey> http://www.psncardservice.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=19 also
[15:29] <andrewebdev> yeah, but at least those aren't exact copies. If you look on the Evo site, there is are bits about "why is my credit card rejected"
[15:29] <andrewebdev> they copied the text, as is, but forgot to add the link (we have a link)
[15:30] <andrewebdev> anyway, don't want to derail any "ubuntu-centric" topics, so I'll keep quiet now :)
[15:35] <popey> ☻
[15:35] <popey> its not like there's a flood of conversation right now ☻
[16:39] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[17:07] <brobostigon> .win 13
[17:11] <czajkowski> popey: do you have chromecast & ubuntu working?
[18:54] <daftykins> hrmm, borrowing a mains adapter for that macbook i mentioned i was given
[18:54] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/LpY1yo5.png
[18:55] <daftykins> 2.2GHz c2d, 2.5GB RAM, intel graphics, an SSD i put in
[18:55] <MartijnVdS> (Not charging)
[18:55] <daftykins> yes the battery is dead
[18:55] <map> hm
[18:55] <map> how can i put dig on my pi
[18:55] <map> cmd isnt there
[18:56] <daftykins> never heard of it
[18:56] <MartijnVdS> apt-get install dnsutils
[18:56] <daftykins> oh *that* dig ;D
[18:56] <MartijnVdS> (or, apt-file search /usr/bin/dig)
[18:56] <map> thx MartijnVdS :DD
[18:56] <davmor2> map: apt install dig?
[18:56] <map> tried that davmor2 :D
[18:56] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: he could have meant The Dig, the Lucasarts adventure game
[18:56] <davmor2> map: other way is apt search dig
[18:56] <daftykins> apt-cache
[18:56] <map> ah
[18:57] <map> didnt know it would still find even tho diff package name
[18:57] <map> ta
[18:57] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: nah "apt" works too now
[18:57] <daftykins> wat, is that recent?
[18:57] <MartijnVdS> yea
[18:57] <daftykins> ugh all these seemingly irrelevant changes
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/
[18:58] <map> can i enable php with a2enmod?
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> map: yes, but then you have to ask yourself: do you want PHP? Really?
[18:58] <map> yes for now
[18:58] <map> :D
[18:59] <map> didnt see it isted when i typed a2enmod
[18:59] <daftykins> map seriously mate, learn the proper way not just drip feeds form IRC
[18:59] <map> lets see
[18:59] <daftykins> *from
[18:59] <MartijnVdS> map: there's a whole wiki full of info, both for Ubuntu and Debian
[18:59] <MartijnVdS> you can do it! :)
[18:59] <map> i normally just did it manually not using a2enmod
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> map: you need to install the package first
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> a2enmod just enables it in apache (which you then need to restart too()
[19:00] <map> ah
[19:00] <map> right
[19:00] <map> il go read
[19:00] <daftykins> map: you query that router for your VDSL sync speed yet?
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> [    6.410000] eth0: link up (1000Mbps/Full duplex)
[19:01] <map> ah no i havent got round to running linux my netbooks low spec ..would dsl or puppy be sufficient?
[19:01] <map> heh
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> sadly, I only get 100/100
[19:01] <map> :D
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> 93.2/94.2 according to speedtest.net
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> and this is kind of rush hour, internet wise
[19:04] <daftykins> map: anything that has miniupnpc
[19:05] <daftykins> can't trust speedtest.net over here
[19:09] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: in this case though we're talking line sync speeds versus provisioned service or actual-throughput speed :)
[19:09] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: yeah me too :)
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I get gigabit sync to th exchange, but I get 100/100 service :)
[19:10] <daftykins> wat
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> fibre to the home
[19:10] <map> i rysnched 4gig from my dell to my pi :D yay
[19:14] <map> hm
[19:14] <map> my nets mad slow atm
[19:15] <map> moved my amazing homepage over to my pi now:D basically needed all the cat pics lol
[19:15] <map> http://frogs.zapto.org
[19:15] <Azelphur> Hehe, vroom https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=9ae9a59a7022952eb518c286fcdfd104 :)
[19:34] <shauno> Azelphur: you couldn't find any louder fans?  (also; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FwsIkJCXU&t=85s )
[19:34] <Azelphur> shauno: haha
[19:36] <shauno> some of those are crazy.  and I thought I had bad neighbours .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uolRIiXNGjw
[19:39] <Azelphur> haha that's one way to piss people off
[19:41] <daftykins> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[19:42] <daftykins> which model does dafty have in front of him, oh the blank row? yep!
[19:43] <map> yay
[19:43] <map> my vpn and apache and all working
[19:43] <map> ;D
[19:43] <map> hopefully my pi wont crash this time heh
[19:44] <daftykins> *into flames*
[19:44] <daftykins> ;D
[19:47] <vad3rman1156> anyone else waiting for 4G from giffgaff? :D
[19:49] <map> pfff daftykins
[19:49] <map> i dunno what happened before wireless was on and pi was on.. diddledan  said maybe a kernel panic..but cant check as rebooted since
[19:49] <map> ive got 4g on ee but cant use it..in gib =[
[19:49] <daftykins> lawl 4G
[19:50] <map> and gib only has 3g LAWL
[19:50] <daftykins> nothing wrong with HSPA+
[19:54] <vad3rman1156> daftykins: you no like 4g?
[19:54] <daftykins> i think it's marketing mostly.
[19:56] <map> how so?
[19:56] <vad3rman1156> you could be right :P
[19:59] <shauno> okay, this made me laugh; Like Linux/i386, 4MB of RAM is the absolute minimum, with 8MB being sufficient for most uses. The X Window System requires a minimum of 12MB of RAM for a usable system.
[19:59] <daftykins> found where? :)
[19:59] <map> ;]
[19:59] <shauno> 1997 :)
[20:00] <daftykins> that's when, not where!
[20:00] <shauno> (and they lie, I've installed it in 3MB.  I just needed two floppy drives because I couldn't load the first disk into a ramdisk)
[20:00] <zmoylan-pi> well i have a rasp pi running raspian and even running the gui desktop and a tonne of apps it's only at 128mb so it's still not too shabby
[20:01] <shauno> where is http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2090
[20:01] <map> nice 128 aint bad
[20:01] <map> what do you use your pi for
[20:04] <zmoylan-pi> i use it for irc (it sits in kitchen switched on 24x7 connected to phone charger) and rss and now playing with twitter and a few other apps
[20:05] <zmoylan-pi> it's got 512mb so it's not even breaking a sweat
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> i connect to it via ssh and tmux a bunch of console apps from any other computer tablet in the house
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> vnc in as well
[20:20] <shauno> oh dear; seems virgin galactic lost a pilot; bbc.in/1xIBF0G
[20:31] <daftykins> shauno: heard of macbook touchpads clicking but not moving before at all? :)
[20:31] <shauno> nope
[20:32] <daftykins> okie dokie
[20:33] <shauno> odd one.  does it happen at the boot prompt too?
[20:34] <daftykins> oh sorry i should've probably qualified that this is upon booting 14.04.1 :)
[20:34] <shauno> ohhh
[20:35] <shauno> my experience with linux on macs, is that anyone who claims it works is delusional :)
[20:35] <shauno> (although there does seem to be many, many such delusional people to contradict me)
[20:36] <daftykins> :D
[20:36] <daftykins> wifi is task #1
[20:36] <daftykins> pesky broadcom
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> *shudder8
[20:50] <MartijnVdS> Atheros however.. <3
[20:54] <shauno> been playing Road Rash pretty much since I woke up.  I feel 12 again :)
[20:56] <daftykins> :D
[20:56] <daftykins> seems like broadcom isn't fun in a live session
[20:56] <daftykins> or, s/in a live session//
[20:58] <shauno> the later, I believe :)
[21:00] <daftykins> lets try installing ubuntu beside OS X without rEFInd!
[21:10] <shauno> lol
[21:10] <shauno> please mistress, more!
[21:11] <zmoylan-pi> if it gets too much drop this orange :-p
[21:11] <shauno> or just put a real unix on it ;)  *ducks*
[21:12] <daftykins> shauno: like?
[21:12] <shauno> well, osx :D
[21:12] <daftykins> like i said, it's outdated
[21:12] <daftykins> and a terrible OS :D
[21:13] <shauno> heh, it's not that bad.  besides their odd bent towards a bsd userland :/
[21:13] <daftykins> ooh if you use disk utility to resize OS X's HFS volume, ubiquity offers 'install alongside'
[21:13] <daftykins> \o/
[21:13] <shauno> other than that, I like to think it's what linux would look like if they could actually agree on anything
[21:13] <daftykins> hahaha
[21:13] <daftykins> hmm this thing has a TN panel LCD
[21:13] <daftykins> eww
[21:14] <daftykins> have i mentioned i love USB -> SSD installs? :D
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> nothing like installing from a stack of floppies nearly a foot high
[21:15] <daftykins> well well well, working boot menu
[21:16] <zmoylan-pi> uttering prayers to the gods of q+a at verbatim that floppy #28 doesn't fail
[21:16] <daftykins> i had a 25 floppy set of ~office 6 for win3.11 or win95
[21:16] <daftykins> one of the disks you needed to let copy whilst holding the eject button to make it rise up slightly
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> i especially liked when installing win95 from floppy that it wanted 1-2 disks more than once
[21:17] <daftykins> ugh.
[21:17] <shauno> my first linux distro was on floppies :/
[21:17] <daftykins> LOL my parents, seriously
[21:17] <shauno> I think 3 for the OS and 8 for whatever 'A' was?  (slackware 3.3)
[21:18] <daftykins> i'm saying look at the website of the special meal event to see a given restaurants menu
[21:18] <zmoylan-pi> after installing win95 from floppy twice i became an expert at installing cd drives on systems up to an including parallel port cds and peer to peer networks to reach a cd drive in computer beside computer i was installing to
[21:18] <daftykins> "we'll check the newspaper edition we have" she says
[21:19] <daftykins> yesss working wireless
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> civilisation has been achieved :-)
[21:20] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: I think I still have a SB16 ISA card somewhere with 3 CD-ROM ports on it
[21:20] <daftykins> just the non-working touchpad left
[21:20] <MartijnVdS> One of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/KL_Creative_Labs_Soundblaster_16_CT2230.jpg
[21:21] <zmoylan-pi> when clearing out 2-3 years ago i found an awe 32 sound card that cost silly money when new
[21:23] <daftykins> :D
[21:23] <daftykins> we had one in our dan Pentium 1
[21:23] <daftykins> i have a couple of Audigys upstairs in an anti-static bag unused
[21:23] <MartijnVdS> I had an awe64 in my 486dx2-66
[21:23] <daftykins> that's a bag of 4+ soundcards i think
[21:24] <daftykins> might want to mute your sound - https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvehuk00lweboou/VID_20141031_212154.mp4?dl=0
[21:27] <adamello> hey
[21:27] <daftykins> hi
[21:27] <adamello> czesc
[21:27] <adamello> ho are you
[21:27] <daftykins> not bad ty, yourself?
[21:28] <adamello> im ok
[21:28] <adamello> you are women men ?
[21:29] <daftykins> i don't really understand what you're trying to ask
[21:30] <adamello> you are women or men ?
[21:30] <daftykins> gender isn't important online
[21:30] <daftykins> we are both
[21:30] <adamello> ok
[21:30] <shauno> I miss ISA soundblasters.  I remember a funny one where for various reasons, the sb16 popped out of my machine.  and the kernel just started spewing DMA errors
[21:30] <shauno> so I put it back in, and the music continued
[21:31] <daftykins> :D
[21:31] <popey> czajkowski: yes
[21:31] <shauno> modern stuff gets quite grumpy when you accidentally hotswap it
[21:31] <adamello> kurwy jestescie
[21:32] <daftykins> why does my cat love sitting exactly in line-of-sight of the remote sensor of my HTPC?
[21:32] <zmoylan-pi> my favourite was a 486 i had a network card, scanner card and sound blaster in plus extra serial and parallel ports.  and once when memory went corrupt the sound card tried to handle the network packets.  sounded like a dolphin in a blender :-)
[21:32] <shauno> because then you pay attention to it :)
[21:32] <daftykins> XD
[21:32] <adamello> pedały
[21:32] <shauno> !pl
[21:32] <adamello> twoja stara sra na stojąco
[21:33] <adamello> tak a co mi zrobisz
[21:33] <adamello> ?
[21:33] <shauno> we're generally pretty good with visitors, but if you find polish easier .. well there's a loco for that too :)
[21:33]  * zmoylan-pi hands daftykins a nerf pistol as remote control for cat :-p
[21:34] <daftykins> XD
[21:38] <adamello> not my fault you do not understand the kurwy
[21:39] <adamello> fuck ubuntu
[21:39] <adamello> kurwy
[21:39] <daftykins> adamello: maybe you should join a channel where they speak your language
[21:39] <daftykins> and don't give us attitude
[21:40]  * zmoylan-pi hands adamello a copy of os/2 on floppy
[21:41] <adamello> fuck it is you want and what you do not have
[21:42] <daftykins> yeah it'd be nice if you left now.
[21:42] <daftykins> shauno: lol the touchpad *does* work, you just have to lie your finger down so a whole segment is on the pad before you can move the cursor :D
[21:42] <daftykins> that's totally weird
[21:42] <adamello> u fuck
[21:42] <daftykins> ops please.
[21:42]  * daftykins pokes popey 
[21:43] <daftykins> getting PM'd the same above abuse now.
[21:43] <adamello> you are out of luck because he is here today adamello
[21:43] <adamello> you fuck
[21:44] <daftykins> lol.
[21:44] <daftykins> worst troll i've ever seen
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> worst. troll. EVER.
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> 0/10 as a troll, i've seen better on youtube
[21:44] <popey> hm?
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> even the squeaky trolls on xbox live...
[21:45] <daftykins> popey: could you possibly +q or escort our above friend off the premises?
[21:45] <shauno> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqeGxMgVOHI&t=16
[21:45] <popey> oh, i see
[21:45] <daftykins> ty sir
[21:45] <zmoylan-pi> ta, nicely done
[21:45] <SuperEngineer> +1
[21:48] <adamello> rwy
[21:48] <adamello> kurwy
[21:48] <adamello> heeeeeeeeee
[21:48] <daftykins> curly wurly? in your halloween swag?
[21:49] <daftykins> i can't understand you!
[21:49] <adamello> you fuck
[21:49] <Azelphur> is that a request? ;)
[21:49] <MartijnVdS> here? now?
[21:49] <adamello> if you dont undrstand me dont read ;)
[21:49]  * Azelphur prods popey
[21:50] <popey> ta
[21:50] <MartijnVdS> aww yeah.. pyx-1.socialgamer.net
[21:50] <Azelphur> :)
[21:50] <MartijnVdS> popey: ^ CaH online!
[21:50] <MartijnVdS> (I've also played "CardCast" - CaH on a chromecast -- tons o'fun!)
[21:51] <shauno> any recommendations for a tv-style remote for an ubuntu/xbmc box - that doesn't have that whacking great WinMCE button?
[21:51] <zmoylan-pi> an automatic nerf pistol with laser for aiming :-p
[21:51] <daftykins> shauno: got a smartphone? XBMC's remote app does well enough over wifi :)
[21:51] <MartijnVdS> shauno: won't any remote work?
[21:51] <Azelphur> +1 for the phone remote for XBMC
[21:52] <shauno> my tv remote doesn't have a 'dvr' button that I used to repurpose :(
[21:52] <MartijnVdS> I switched to the new "Harmony Ultimate" stuff
[21:52] <MartijnVdS> it's so cool
[21:53] <popey> shauno: boxee remote if you can get one
[21:53] <MartijnVdS> I have an unused "Minix Neo X7"
[21:54] <Azelphur> fancy
[21:54] <MartijnVdS> no idea what to do with it
[21:54] <shauno> hm, nothing on ebay, but I'll keep my eyes open
[21:55] <Azelphur> shauno: in the keyboard department, I got this for my HTPC http://www.dx.com/p/rapoo-e9080-ultra-slim-wireless-82-key-keyboard-with-touchpad-receiver-black-2xaaa-102667
[21:55] <zmoylan-pi> there was a great app on palmos around 2000 that allowed you to draw buttons on screen and copy ir remotes to those buttons, great little app
[21:55] <Azelphur> It's actually quite nice, and very cool looking.
[21:55] <daftykins> shauno: seen that flirc thing? not sure if it's an apt replacement
[21:56] <daftykins> hmm not quite relevant - http://flirc.tv/
[21:57] <Azelphur> the reviews are accurate too, I replaced my batteries for the first time a couple days ago and I've had it around a year.
[21:57] <shauno> I'm not so worried about a keyboard .. I've never needed one yet
[21:58] <shauno> atm I have it on my appletv using apple's remote, which is as basic as it gets.  I use the app for anything that needs more buttons, but it's really hand to have a remote just to grab & hit pause
[21:59] <Azelphur> I just bought a Asus M060U chromebox to run XBMC on - it kicks ass.
[21:59] <popey> shauno: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/PC-Remote-Control-SC511-Smart-TV_119459622.html
[21:59] <popey> brilliant remote
[21:59] <daftykins> Azelphur: hrmm what was the damage there?
[21:59] <Azelphur> Tiny, silent, 11 second boot time, 1080p at ~10% CPU, XBMC UI is completely flawless, handles it like a champ
[21:59] <popey> if you want 3000 of them, anyway ☻
[21:59] <Azelphur> daftykins: £160
[22:00] <popey> Azelphur: what did you install on it?
[22:00] <Azelphur> popey: openelec
[22:00] <popey> k
[22:00] <shauno> lol @ 3000
[22:01] <Azelphur> really easy to set up too, there's a guy who has made a script to install openelec and optionally dual boot
[22:01] <Azelphur> so you basically take out the right protect screw, curl the script and run it, and you're done.
[22:01] <Azelphur> s/right/write
[22:01] <daftykins> \o/
[22:01] <daftykins> i quite like the chrome* machines for that reset button
[22:02] <daftykins> i remember being asked to get it going on a mates one, when you did something wrong with the install you just flicked the dev switch back, let it reset itself, then had another bash :D
[22:02] <daftykins> where it = ubuntu
[22:02] <Azelphur> yea, this seems much the same
[22:02] <Azelphur> although one downside is it seems to have a forced "you are in dev mode" splash every time you turn it on, which wastes a second.
[22:02] <daftykins> can you bench the NAND? :D
[22:02] <daftykins> ah
[22:02] <Azelphur> daftykins: no idea, I have SSH on it
[22:03] <daftykins> not many binaries on there with OE though i guess
[22:03] <daftykins> so it'd be a hassle to find out
[22:03] <Azelphur> https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=2d4e34920277d4a727cb95800328d7d9 is the inside :)
[22:03] <daftykins> in the guide i did, you flashed another BIOS that didn't care so much 0o which might disable said boot prompt
[22:03] <daftykins> ooh looks like a NUC
[22:03] <daftykins> wasted dual channel operation there!
[22:04] <Azelphur> yea, could get another chip, but tbh it flies through XBMC with no issues whatsoever
[22:04] <shauno> I'm looking at grabbing http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007T94TLG/
[22:04] <daftykins> module! :> yeah if it does the job
[22:04] <shauno> mostly to move retripie off the pi
[22:05] <daftykins> erk the AMD APUs
[22:05] <daftykins> i'd probably run that by fritsch / XBMC forums prior
[22:05] <daftykins> (fritsch is the graphics hardware boffin developer)
[22:06] <shauno> eh, it doesn't need to be amazing.  if it beats the pi it's all I need
[22:06] <shauno> (or a nuc if they had any cases that weren't designed by blind people)
[22:06] <daftykins> lmao
[22:06] <daftykins> they are quite ugly indeed
[22:07] <popey> i glad you pointed that out shauno i have been looking for something to go under the telly
[22:07] <popey> probably want something lean like a chromebox tho
[22:07] <zmoylan-pi> a table :-p
[22:07] <popey> Azelphur: does that asus box run the xbmc ui okay?
[22:07] <MartijnVdS> I have that ARM Android box
[22:07] <shauno> well I can't vouch for it, it's just something I've been eyeing up
[22:07] <MartijnVdS> it runs XBMC fine
[22:07] <daftykins> let me run it by fritsch, he's active
[22:08] <shauno> I have a 1st gen appletv for xbmc, no complaints really.  and then a pi for emulators
[22:08] <Azelphur> popey: I actually just made a quick video to demonstrate how well it does it
[22:08] <shauno> I don't need anything amazing, just something that can bring those both into one box
[22:09] <Azelphur> in the video I show: being really evil to the UI by holding an arrow key with cover art and over views, 1080p video playback, boot times, etc etc
[22:09] <popey> nice
[22:09] <popey> works okay?
[22:09] <Azelphur> flawless :)
[22:10]  * popey adds to wishlist
[22:10] <popey> thanks
[22:10] <popey> new telly arrives on wednesday ☻
[22:10] <Azelphur> video is at 85% :)
[22:11] <popey> want something to play 1080p content ☻
[22:11] <daftykins> here's the gossip on the above amazon item...
[22:11] <daftykins> < fritsch> limit: 1080p50, only temporal deinterlacing, need very recent kernel (3.16.x) to get fluent 24p playback, sometimes picky with AVRs concerning dts-hd, truehd
[22:11] <daftykins> ^_^
[22:11] <daftykins> knows his stuff that guy
[22:12] <popey> which device>
[22:12] <shauno> my tv doesn't do 1080  hehe
[22:12] <popey> neither does mine, hence new one coming on weds
[22:12] <daftykins> popey: the Sedatech running the AMD E-350
[22:12] <Azelphur> https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=172c242340bba4c23cc90ca80cb89841 tada, video
[22:12] <popey> ah
[22:12]  * popey downloads
[22:12] <Azelphur> popey: it should stream if you press the play button
[22:13] <daftykins> nah your upload is too choppy ;)
[22:13] <Azelphur> aww
[22:16] <Azelphur> apparently I'm only doing 75KB/sec up, I can do like 2.5MB/sec up no problem o.O
[22:16] <Azelphur> unless everyone already grabbed the video
[22:17] <shauno> interesting, wget refuses to
[22:18] <Azelphur> ah now it's spiking up, doing 25mbit up much better :)
[22:20] <Azelphur> but yea, real happy with the Chromebox, it runs through XBMC no problem, and you can dual boot it easy too to keep ChromeOS around, although so far I've found no use for it
[22:21] <zmoylan-pi> throw a few file on chromeos for when customs at airport want to see it?
[22:21] <shauno> you take your tv to the airport?
[22:22] <zmoylan-pi> for really long flights :-)
[22:22] <zmoylan-pi> my bad
[22:22] <shauno> I've never bothered with that .. I can't stay awake on planes
[22:36] <shauno> ooh, there's a new season of Elementary
[22:48] <popey> Azelphur: that thing boots fast
[22:48] <Azelphur> popey: indeed it does
[22:48] <Azelphur> and 1 second of that is wasted splash screen time toon
[22:48] <Azelphur> too*
[22:54] <daftykins> Azelphur: aaaah what is that scary film sorting order you have there XD
[22:54] <Azelphur> daftykins: alphabetical?
[22:54] <daftykins> surely it wasn't to begin with
[22:54] <daftykins> *looks again*
[22:55] <daftykins> A,E,I,P... A, R
[22:55] <daftykins> :D
[22:55] <Azelphur> daftykins: XBMC ignores "the" and stuff at the beginning of a title
[22:55] <Azelphur> so The Big Bang Theory, is B.
[22:56] <daftykins> nah this is at 27 seconds in your vid
[22:56] <daftykins> and know how it works ;D i've been using it since the xbox1 :>
[22:56] <daftykins> oops sorry that was a bit abruptly worded
[22:57] <shauno> I have films in reverse-chronilogical  (eg, newest first)
[22:58] <daftykins> i'm watching Ghostbusters \o/
[22:59] <shauno> I'm sitting here looking for something else to play, because I just discovered that when you finish level5 on road rash .. you get to do level 5 again.  and again.  and ariston.
[22:59] <Azelphur> daftykins: haha, apparently it's sorting them by date
[23:01] <daftykins> huzzah!
[23:02] <shauno> cannon fodder is *really* bad on the megadrive
[23:02] <shauno> reminds me of C&C on the playstation.  you just can't port mouse UIs to consoles
[23:03] <daftykins> *nod*
[23:03] <daftykins> i remember trying that at a friends
[23:03] <daftykins> wow it was bad
[23:03] <zmoylan-pi> i liked sim city on playstation
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> a little annoying rotating the city with shoulder buttons but it worked
[23:06] <zmoylan-pi> i think i still preferred it on palm os though
[23:38] <shauno> hm.  my dhcp server is hung at boot.  'cmos checksum fail'.  sweeeet
[23:38] <daftykins> doh!
[23:38] <daftykins> i could imagine that after a power loss
[23:39] <daftykins> or was it unplugged?
[23:39] <daftykins> presumably if it holds said title you regularly run it :)
[23:42] <shauno> unplugged, for good amounts of time.  it's just a little 'lab' network
[23:42] <daftykins> ah i see
[23:42] <daftykins> i was thinking, if i had a use for it, that macbook could sit behind my UPS and run as a server
[23:42] <daftykins> i think the power consumption would be a waste besides the VMs already atop my 24/7 file server, however
[23:44] <shauno> wahey, ipv6 works at least
[23:44] <shauno> I love that.  ping fe02::1, look for the address that comes back that ain't mine, and ssh to it
[23:46] <zmoylan-pi> if you do bios factory reset?
[23:46] <shauno> yeah, I had to go dig up a keyboard to use defaults  (it won't use usb keyboards ..)
[23:47] <daftykins> shauno: is that the equivalent of a broadcast ping, or?
[23:47] <zmoylan-pi> there's often a reset on motherboard if that'd be quicker
[23:47] <daftykins> i was under the impression you couldn't really find other hosts with IPv6 due to too many possibilities to scan for
[23:47] <shauno> yeah, it's broadcast
[23:47] <shauno> most things on the local link will reply
[23:49] <shauno> I have a really ugly script called 'mmmpie' that uses it .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8767232/
[23:49] <shauno> stick a pi on ethernet, run 'mmmpie' and it'll ssh to it :)
[23:49] <dogmatic69_> anyone good a algebra?
[23:50] <daftykins> ^_^
[23:50] <shauno> (except you have to turn ipv6 on the pi, they ship rasbian without it :(
[23:52] <daftykins> slightly related - it's been my understanding that it's compiled into Ubuntu's kernel these days, so you can't turn it off like you used to be able to?
[23:52] <daftykins> er, that is part of the Linux kernel.
[23:52] <daftykins> i think it was a module at some point?
[23:52] <shauno> I haven't looked lately, but it's sane enough assumption
[23:53] <shauno> (it should be compiled in.  it's 2014.)
[23:54] <daftykins> :>
[23:54] <daftykins> weird that windows 7 has toredo on as default, its' IPv6 tunneling
[23:54] <shauno> pi have it as a blacklisted module, because they're a little more sensitive about ram requirements
[23:54] <shauno> (so it's built, but won't enable unless you take it out the blacklist)
[23:55] <shauno> well, rasbian at least.  I just lump the two together
[23:57] <daftykins> *nod* makes sense
[23:57] <shauno> speaking of pi, I should probably just replace this box with one
[23:57] <daftykins> presumably the kernel is already heavily stripped and specialised?
[23:57] <shauno> Hostname: pxe - OS: Linux 3.2.0-4-486/i686 - Distro: Debian 7.1 - CPU: VIA Ezra (797.940 MHz) - Processes: 92 - Uptime: 18m - Users: 1 - Load Average: 0.01 - Memory Usage: 34.91MB/232.85MB (14.99%) - Disk Usage: 25.13GB/35.78GB (70.23%)
[23:57] <daftykins> lol VIA
[23:57] <shauno> it's a via.  a rackmounted via.
[23:58] <shauno> and if you're wondering who would put a via in 1U, it was a freebie from work