[05:40] <kbmonkey> Morning o/
[05:41] <bduk1> More almal
[05:41] <kbmonkey> I don't understand why making a bootable Ubuntu usb with dd does not boot. 
[05:41] <kbmonkey> More bduk1 
[06:19] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy and all others
[06:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:20] <Kilos> lo inetpro kbmonkey Squirm nlsthzn 
[06:23] <kbmonkey> Lo ThatGraemeGuy and Kilos 
[06:23] <nlsthzn> morning
[06:25] <kbmonkey> O/ nlsthzn 
[06:44] <superfly> Good evening.
[06:45] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[06:45] <Kilos> you starting pro tricks now too
[06:47] <superfly> Kilos: i have no time
[06:47] <superfly> most days i get to bed at midnight
[06:47] <Kilos> ai! my fly you need to rest some too you know
[06:47] <Kilos> time for leave again
[06:48] <Kilos> oh with all the little ones leave is same thing
[06:48] <superfly> Exactly
[06:49] <Kilos> well maybe in 20 years time youll get some resting time
[06:51] <superfly> Maybe when I'm your age, oom.
[06:52] <Kilos> sjoe then you dont want to rest anymore because every thing is changing so fast you might miss out
[06:59] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos superfly 
[07:00] <superfly> Hi theblazehen
[07:22] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[07:23] <Kilos> sorry i took so long was outside in the lekker uv's 
[07:29] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[07:29] <Kilos> you still a happy mac user?
[07:30] <Kilos> wasnt it you that wanted to put ubuntu on one
[08:06] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:07] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:07] <theblazehen> hi inetpro
[08:12] <TinuvaMac> Kilos: hi, definitely is, actually really like it. Battery lasts 9 hours, I still have the power of unix in the terminal, and the gui is super smooth, and I also have access to useful business apps like Office ect.
[08:12] <TinuvaMac> but no wasnt me that want to put ubuntu on my mac
[08:12] <TinuvaMac> osx yosemite is actually very nice
[08:13] <Kilos> cool
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> i do wish i could get this lime irc chat on linux, its really nice. too bad you only get it for windows and mac
[08:14] <TinuvaMac> hexchat will have to suffice on linux
[08:14] <Kilos> lol hexchat works fine
[08:14] <Kilos> i even have it here on kde
[08:15] <Kilos> would be nicer if it could ctrl+r to underline like konversation though
[08:15] <inetpro> TinuvaMac: how about trying quassel?
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> didnt know about it, it looks good actually
[08:17] <inetpro> I would try the MacOSX Monolithic Client (all-in-one, standalone client)
[08:17] <TinuvaMac> tho i prefer the minimal look on lime
[08:18] <theblazehen> TinuvaMac: wine?
[08:22] <charl> good morning
[08:22] <charl> drinking in the morning already?
[08:22] <charl> i'll have some coffee instead
[08:22] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:22]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:24] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:24] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[08:24] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:26] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:26] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:27] <Kilos> haha inetpro het jy gesien wat se maaz van jou?
[08:27] <inetpro> uh nee, waar?
[08:27] <Kilos> Maaz, seen inetpro 
[08:27] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 1 second ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-10-31 01:27:44 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-10-30 11:01:27 PDT
[08:27] <Kilos> Maaz, find him
[08:27] <Maaz> Sorry Kilos He has broken something and is now hiding away in fear of being reprimanded
[08:28] <inetpro> huh!?
[08:28] <Kilos> haha skuus man
[08:28] <inetpro> waar val hy uit die bus uit?
[08:29] <Kilos> hy het gesien julle is weg gister
[08:29] <inetpro> uh :-(
[08:29] <Kilos> and he took the normal route
[08:29] <inetpro> Maaz: find him
[08:29] <Maaz> Sorry inetpro He has broken something and is now hiding away in fear of being reprimanded
[08:29] <Kilos> blame the IT guy
[08:30] <inetpro> skelm!
[08:30] <Kilos> ek hoop dit kry darem n smile uit jou uit
[09:03] <Kilos> theblazehen, hows your bp?
[09:44] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, adsl fixed yet?
[09:48] <Kilos> some good news
[09:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> no
[09:48] <Kilos> now to get it everywhere
[09:48] <Kilos> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/a-victory-for-free-software-over-the-microsoft-tax
[09:48] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy do you have to manually have to start your 3g?
[09:49] <Kilos> i have a fix for that if you do
[09:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> huh?
[09:49] <Kilos> does your 3g auto connect?
[09:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> I have a MiFi box thingy, i'm not sure what you mean
[09:49] <Kilos> oh not 3g modem into pc
[09:50] <Kilos> ok sorry
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, no
[09:50] <Kilos> since 12.04 3g auto connect hasnt worked
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh
[09:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> those stick things are not for me
[09:51] <Kilos> ive just had to use the fix on xubuntu 14.04 too
[11:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: http://i.imgur.com/JMC042q.png
[11:27] <Kilos> lemme see
[11:29] <Kilos> 2 next to each other with a single wall between?
[11:29] <Kilos> oh that outer wall aint serious
[11:30] <Kilos> is the 2 more behind ThatGraemeGuy 
[11:30] <Kilos> completed reactors
[11:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> 2 live and 2 under construction
[11:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> connected the the public HV grid, total supply is currently 1,3 million EU
[11:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> uh, "to the"...
[11:31] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah
[11:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the constant supply, there are a huge number of HV solar arrays all over as well, so daytime supply jumps to 2,2 million
[11:54] <superfly> :-(
[11:54] <superfly> I haven't had any time for minetest latetly
[11:55] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: you're building nuclear reactors in your house?!
[12:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: in my basement power station yeah :)
[12:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> this isn't on our server, i pretty much abandoned that since nobody plays there anymore :-/
[13:30] <charl> ja...
[13:30] <charl> weekend almost there
[13:44] <kbmonkey> Ja charl it can't come quick enough
[13:49] <charl> :)
[14:17] <charl> kbmonkey: http://i.imgur.com/kmYx4tp.jpg
[14:20] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> we had that on our wall at the office
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems to have gotten lost in the process of moving
[14:26] <Kilos> haha
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://notalwaysright.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/STUPID.jpg <-- that one too
[14:28] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:28] <Kilos> techies think everyone else asks stupid questions
[14:33] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[14:33] <Vince-0> hi Oom
[14:52] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:53] <superfly> ohi
[14:54] <Kilos> ohi my fly
[14:54] <Kilos> weekend
[15:17] <Kilos> hi Wraz you still here in za?
[15:22] <Kilos> \hi Joe_knock 
[15:23] <Kilos> i go pump water
[15:23] <Joe_knock> Kilos: Hello.
[15:55] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn 
[15:56] <nlsthzn> yhx
[15:56] <nlsthzn> gnome-shell went ded on me
[15:56] <Kilos> oi
[16:01] <Joe_knock> eeew gnome
[16:01] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[16:02] <nlsthzn> gnome-shell 3.14 with the right extensions is awesome
[16:02] <nlsthzn> very very very fast, looks great 
[16:02] <nlsthzn> very functional and also dies on you like most DE if you mess with Wine to much :D
[16:02] <kbmonkey> Ta kilos :)
[16:03] <Joe_knock> XFCE is what works on older machines (like mine)
[16:04] <Kilos> ya actually not too bad on older machines
[16:04] <kbmonkey> Can anyone tell me why, when I dd the ubuntu iso to usb, it won't boot? Just hangs the bios post test :(
[16:04] <nlsthzn> perhaps bad download, bad write or something in BIOS
[16:04] <Kilos> because the usb isnt formatted to mbr state i think
[16:04] <kbmonkey> The MD5 is good
[16:05] <nlsthzn> there is UEFI and legacy and all manner of shinanigans these days
[16:05] <nlsthzn> dd writes raw image so no need to make changes to the usb
[16:05] <Kilos> you have unity going kbmonkey 
[16:05] <kbmonkey> My pc is pre-uefi :)
[16:05] <kbmonkey> Nope kilos. Can't install. 
[16:05] <Joe_knock> booting from USB can be a nightmare with that EUFI stuff. Burn to a disk for convenienve
[16:05] <Joe_knock> *ce
[16:06] <Kilos> the disk utility has the goodie in to fornat sticks to mbr then unetbootin makes a good live stick
[16:07] <kbmonkey> I like totally forgot to bring blank dvd's back from the office :d
[16:07] <Kilos> you know how to format stick to mbr man
[16:07] <Kilos> didnt we do this some months ago
[16:07] <kbmonkey> Yes I do :) and it works for every other distro fine. Strange, is all. 
[16:08] <kbmonkey> Oh well
[16:08] <Kilos> doesnt the dd command mess up the mbr bit?
[16:08] <kbmonkey> Nope
[16:08] <kbmonkey> dd makes an Exact copy
[16:09] <Kilos> try unetbootin
[16:09] <kbmonkey> I have
[16:09] <Kilos> oi
[16:09] <kbmonkey> Its still writing the disk
[16:09] <Kilos> first format stick to fat32
[16:09] <nlsthzn> dd is typically very good
[16:10] <kbmonkey> I love dd
[16:10] <kbmonkey> Could be I need a new pc ;)
[16:10] <Kilos> lol
[16:10] <Kilos> no man i use old pc too
[16:10] <Kilos> format stick fat32 then use unetbootin
[16:11] <kbmonkey> I oath, its writing to psb at 2mb/s it's going to take all night 
[16:11] <Kilos> for one iso?
[16:11] <Kilos> should take 5 mins to make boot stick
[16:12] <kbmonkey> I'll watch some zombies while I wait :)
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <kbmonkey> Braaaains
[16:12] <Kilos> are you using a 486
[16:13] <kbmonkey> Lol
[16:13] <Kilos> or single core p4 with 256 ram
[16:14] <kbmonkey> It's halloween Kilos. I'm installing linux on a dead badger
[16:14] <nlsthzn> true story
[16:14] <Joe_knock> Are you installing ubuntu on a 128MB ram machine?
[16:14] <Kilos> man we dont do halloween
[16:17] <kbmonkey> http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[16:17] <kbmonkey> The dead does not discriminate
[16:18] <kbmonkey> No Joe_knock I have more RAM, maybe my usb ports are haunted :)
[16:18] <Joe_knock> The burn to USB is quite slow. You sure the stick isnt corrupt?
[16:21] <kbmonkey> It may be Joe_knock. I use it for debian/mint/live gamers ISO's without problems. But it may be broken. I'll keep that in mind :]
[16:22]  * kbmonkey just looking for reasons to get new hardware
[16:22] <Kilos> ai!
[16:23] <kbmonkey> Similarly, copying to my extenal drive / backup is also slow. It's not just unetbootin. 
[16:23] <Joe_knock> we should take scrap hardware and build 1 massive local server with the parts.
[16:23] <Joe_knock> What is the transfer rate?
[16:26] <superfly> Ohi Joe_knock
[16:27] <Joe_knock> 0_/ superfly 
[16:27] <kbmonkey> We can build skynet!
[16:28] <Joe_knock> on 2MB ADSL
[16:28] <Kilos> kbmonkey, if that pc is so slow it will never run 14.10
[16:28]  * superfly is back on his N900 for the moment
[16:31] <kbmonkey> The pc is decent Kilos, its just usb that is acting up
[16:31] <Kilos> you only got the one stick?
[16:32] <kbmonkey> I'll try others 
[16:32] <Kilos> im trying to con ian out of a 2g stick he never uses. they great for isos
[16:32] <kbmonkey> Lol
[16:32] <Kilos> and i think they dont make them anymore so good to collect
[16:33] <kbmonkey> Sneaky!
[16:33] <Kilos> ill even give him a 4g in place of it
[16:34] <Kilos> he actually has the 4g already and keeps forgetting to return it
[16:34] <Kilos> so good to rev him for all the 2g sticks he can find
[16:36] <kbmonkey> Yes yes good plan
[16:43] <Joe_knock> darn, 14.04 server is killing me.
[16:43] <Kilos> lol
[16:43] <Kilos> whats it doing
[16:43] <Joe_knock> 403 errors. 
[16:44] <kbmonkey> Oh noes
[16:44] <Kilos> i ended up installing 12.04 server
[16:44] <Kilos> 403 no internet?
[17:33] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[17:34] <Kilos> kbmonkey, whats happening
[17:35] <kbmonkey> Kilos: not much :D
[17:35] <Kilos> you not winning?
[17:35] <Kilos> ai!
[17:43] <kbmonkey> I'll try again tomorrow night. Had enough of staring at computers today :)
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <gremble> hey Kilos 
[17:49] <kbmonkey> Hi gremble 
[17:50] <kbmonkey> Horrific halloween to all
[18:23] <charl> good evening
[18:33] <Kilos> hi charl 
[18:35] <charl> hi Kilos 
[18:39] <Joe_knock> Kilos: 403, access denied. Im going to wipe this server and try again.
[18:39] <Kilos> ai!
[18:41] <Kilos> superfly, isnt the n900 for irc when eating out?
[18:44] <Kilos> or your adsl crashed?
[19:15] <superfly> it's for when my S3 doesn't work, like now.
[19:15] <Kilos> eish
[19:16] <Kilos> ok all. bed time for me
[19:16] <Kilos> sleep tight