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xubuntu58wCannot open menulibre02:15
xubuntu58whelp02:15
xubuntu58wtried to open in terminal recevied the following02:18
xubuntu58wERROR:/build/buildd/gnome-menus-3.10.1/./libmenu/gmenu-tree.c:4022:preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed) Aborted (core dumped)02:19
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newbie89everytime reboot desktop icon rearranged arbitrarily how can i fix the problem04:49
newbie89i have upgraded from 14.04 to 14.1004:51
newbie89there is no such problem on 14.0404:51
cfhowlettnewbie89, changes from 14.04 to 14.10 are minimal and 14.10 has 9 months of support vs. 3 years for 14.04.  so the benefit of upgrading to 14.10 is .... what?04:53
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newbie89cfhowlett: thanks for your mentions but now i can't undo the upgrade .. i find solution05:04
cfhowlettnewbie89, what was the solution?05:06
newbie89cfhowlett: i couldn't find any solution yet05:07
cfhowlettnewbie89, ah.  sorry.  reinstall 14.04.1???05:07
newbie89cfhowlett: sorry my english :)05:08
cfhowlettnewbie89, I'm an American in China.  Your English is understandable.05:08
newbie89cfhowlett: i don't think reinstall 14.0405:10
cfhowlettnewbie OK ...05:10
minsikchoHi. I have some problems with hibernation in U45JC (Asus Laptop)05:44
minsikchoI've checked by uswsusp and dmesg that suspending and hibernation works correctly, but if I login to my account, it just turns black.05:45
xubuntu99istuck at os xubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 upgradation06:18
plodHello, I've recently installed 14.10 fresh. When I run certain programs (Firefox, Komodo-edit, Web Browser, synergy) the whole machine locks up displaying nothing but black, and only a reboot fixes. I cannot seem to find anything in logs but I am not 100% sure where to look.09:23
ObrienDavevideo drivers up to date?09:24
plodas far as I know, I have intel chipset09:25
plodtried to find newer driver intel only provide 14.04 packages09:25
plodii  xserver-xorg-video-intel                    2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu409:26
ObrienDaveget intel drivers from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/09:27
xubuntu28wbonjour11:10
cfhowlett!fr | xubuntu28w,11:10
ubottuxubuntu28w,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:11
knomexubuntu28w, hello11:11
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lord4163My mom asked me why since we switched from Unity to Xubuntu, there are no thumbnails in the file picker. How do I enable it?15:34
holsteinlord4163: you mean, from unity to xfce? ubuntu and xubuntu are both ubuntu.. you want thumbnails view of what files in thunar?15:35
lord4163holstein: No in the GTK file picker. (the one when you upload pictures to the interwebz)15:36
holsteinlord4163: a screenshot may help me better understand waht you are asking about.. otherwise, try http://i.stack.imgur.com/4fUhS.png from http://askubuntu.com/questions/143253/how-can-i-enable-thumbnails-on-xubuntu-desktop ..should still be the same15:36
lord4163holstein: http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/doc/api/4.1/org/gnome/gtk/FileChooser.html15:38
lord4163When in a folder with pictures it shows tiny little thumbnails on the ubuntu-desktop and in xubuntu-desktop it just shows black icons.15:39
holsteinlord4163: try the setting i linked, friend.. and let the volunteers know if it works for you15:39
lord4163Hope to see the option for different views like on the KDE desktop. You have to be a darn eagle to see what the picture is!!!15:41
holsteinlord4163: you can look into "wishlist" bugs.. i would go as far upstream as possible.. debian, or the actual creators of the applications that you are seeking features for.. cheers15:42
knomelord4163, i don't think there is other views for the gtk file picker15:43
knomes/is/are/15:43
lord4163knome: it's stupid, it has been this crappy for as long as I use Linux.15:45
knomelord4163, patches are welcome15:45
holsteinlord4163: you can always use the one from kde that you prefer15:45
lord4163holstein: No the problem is, is that only the folders which I have viewed before in thunar have the thumbnails it seems like.15:46
lord4163holstein: Really?15:46
holsteinlord4163: i *actually* prefer if the way it as, as well.. so "crappy", keep in mind, its not necessarily anything more that just a preferece that we dont share15:46
lord4163holstein: I don't know how you like this better: First open thunar, browse to the folder with the pictures you want to upload, remember the names of the pictures, then go back to your browser, hope you remembered the names, and then select them, instead of seeing them directly.15:48
holsteinlord4163: i prefer the text-only..15:48
holsteinlord4163: the size is "better" for me.. i think its great you want thumbnails.. and you should and can have them15:49
holsteinlord4163: i would consider just using kubuntu as a base, though, since it seems it fits your needs better "out of the box".. or, use a mix (which can be challenging, but possible15:49
lord4163holstein: Right so you prefer this size of the thumbnail? You must have a very good sight then http://i.imgur.com/awJ5mdI.png15:51
holsteinlord4163: i prefer, as i said, *no* thumbs.. i like a text list.. but, i have other options for filemanagers, when i want/need15:52
holsteinlord4163: i have not tried to change the gtk picker, but, if you want to find out what ubuntu is using in unity, you may be able to use that.. however, the path of least resistance may be to just start with kde15:53
lord4163holstein: The reason why I use XFCE is because the computer it's running on is terribly slow. If you know how to upgrade the file chooser, I would be happy to follow your instructions.15:56
lord4163holstein: However this must be a bug right?15:59
knomelord4163, i wouldn't consider it a bug but a design decision.16:00
lord4163knome: Well no, this is something that works on Unity, but doesn't on XFCE.16:01
knomelord4163, xfce/gtk isn't designed to be like unity16:01
lord4163It works on GNOME too, it's a bug in XFCE that doesn't generate the thumbnails appropriately.16:02
knomeafaik it shouldn't depend on the DE, but the application that calls the dialog, but if it's about the DE too, then notice that xfce mostly uses GTK2 and the others GTK316:03
lord4163Even in the GTK2 era, my mom never complained about this to me. And maybe I should clarify the problem more precisely?16:05
knomepossibly16:06
knomei understand you're talking about the GTK file picker16:06
knomenot thunar, or the desktop16:06
holsteinlord4163: why not put your mom on something that you guys prefer?16:14
lord4163What do you mean?16:14
holsteinlord4163: id say, its not going to be trivial to change that functionality, but its totaly possible16:14
holsteinlord4163: i mean if kde or unity is a better fit or preferred, why not use one of those for your mom?16:15
lord4163holstein: As I earlier mentioned, those DE's are unusable on this old laptop.16:16
lord4163So this is how it looks like in the folders I have visited before in Thunar http://i.imgur.com/dR4jIdq.png16:16
holsteinlord4163: maybe you can explain that to your mom, and also how there are always compromises.. also, consider mate if gnome2 is what she is used to and asking for16:17
lord4163This is how it looks like in folders I have NOT visited before in Thunar http://imgur.com/2UF7JHG16:17
holsteinlord4163: this reads to me like what you are talking about, correct? http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=347016:19
lord4163holstein: I have been liking XFCE and it has been a pleasure to swap the DE. I don't know about libexo?16:22
lord4163will be afk for a while16:22
holsteinlord4163: cool.. let the volunteers know when you need more assistance.. good luck to you and your mom16:22
lord4163holstein: To who should I report this bug?16:59
deshipu!bugs | lord416317:00
ubottulord4163: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.17:00
lord4163deshipu: I'm unsure if this is a Ubuntu specific bug tho?17:00
deshipulord4163: doesn't matter17:01
ThePendulumI again have this issue that I can't shutdown o_o17:10
Naphatuli can't edit network connections anymore from networkmanager, might it have something to do with me messing with ethtool last night?17:11
Naphatulor it might have been from upgrading to 14.10 but i think i changed some settings since17:12
Naphatulalso i'm running systemd17:13
knomeNaphatul, networkmanager expects all connections to be in "auto" mode, it will not manage connections that have manually set configuration elsewhere17:18
Naphatulknome, but i can't hit the edit button at all even to edit new connections17:19
Naphatuleven with a new connection i still can't change it for that either17:19
knomei mean, all *devices* to be in "auto" mode17:19
Naphatulwell i tried changing it but still nothing17:21
Naphatulor do they need to be on separate lines?17:21
knomei don't understand the question17:22
Naphatulin /etc/network/interfaces the line "auto lo"17:22
Naphatuli added eth0 to it17:22
knomeactually, looking at my version of the file, i think that they just shouldn't exist there17:23
Naphatulso that file is empty?17:23
knomeNaphatul, just remove eth0 from there17:23
Naphatulknome, it wasn't there untill i added it17:24
knomebut i would still say it's probably a symptom of playing with ethtool17:24
Naphatulis there a way to reset the interface settings?17:35
Naphatuloh wait ehtool changes don't persist after reboot do they?17:38
Alexfrenchtry to see your administrator rights for shutdown17:39
Alexfrenchmaybe the update to 14.10 change it17:40
Alexfrenchtres sympa ceux qui ne repondent pas !!17:49
spidey-linuxIs there anybody who knows to migration the data from HDD to SSD with Xubuntu17:54
baizonspidey-linux: well i used clonezilla17:59
baizonspidey-linux: http://frugaltech.happystoic.com/ssdlinux18:00
baizonthis should help18:01
AirbanderHi18:01
Airbanderwhere can i found the folder who contain the xubuntu wallpapers and thanks18:01
baizonAirbander: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/settings-preferences.html18:02
spidey-linuxThanx baizon, I hope to red these soon.18:02
Airbanderthanks18:04
Airbanderguys how open a folder from terminal18:11
Airbanderand how to start mp3 music or image to listen and watch18:12
bazhang!crosspost | Airbander18:14
ubottuAirbander: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.18:14
MeerkatAirbander, enter 'thunar &' in that terminal window18:14
Airbanderthanks Meerkat18:15
Airbanderthis work for every file ?18:15
Airbanderlike mp3 mp4 mkv and docs ?18:16
Airbanderya it's working18:17
Airbanderthanks you are the man18:17
AirbanderGuys18:19
Airbandermv to move files and rename18:19
Airbanderthere is not a command to rename only18:20
Meerkatyou rename with mv. mv OLD_NAME NEW_NAME18:20
Airbanderi know my question i want to know if ther is only a rename command18:21
Airbanderand thanks18:22
knomeAirbander, the "only rename" command is mv18:22
Airbanderok18:22
Airbanderthanks18:22
Airbanderi think i'm gonna add a new command for linux comunity is that sound cool ?18:23
baizonfor rename?18:23
Airbanderya18:23
baizonno, sounds bad18:23
Airbanderwhy18:23
knomei think you can add it as a symlink for yourself, but there's no need to overcomplicate things18:23
Airbander:'(18:24
Airbanderok guys18:24
Meerkatrename is used for renaming multiple files with a regex18:24
Airbanderregex18:24
Meerkatso that command already exists but is used for a slightly different purpose18:24
Airbanderknow we are one the same line18:25
Airbanderthanks for this command18:25
Airbanderregex i'm coming18:25
knomeAirbander, if you simply want to rename files, you really don't need "rename"18:25
knomeAirbander, don't overcomplicate.18:26
Airbanderlol18:26
Airbanderguys i'm new in linux18:26
Airbanderdont take me seriously18:26
knomewell, this isn't a channel for joking either18:27
Airbanderi wasn't18:27
knomeyou weren't joking but we shouldn't take you seriously? you're sending mixed messages.18:27
Airbanderyou have time to chat18:28
Airbanderncie18:28
Airbandernice18:28
knome#xubuntu-offtopic is for the general chatter.18:28
Airbandercool18:29
Airbanderany fast way to learn linux ?18:30
knomeAirbander, as i said, please take the general chatter to #xubuntu-offtopic18:30
Airbanderok18:31
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AirbanderHi Guys again20:32
Airbanderwhen i type [poweroff] in command line the computer off very fast is that damage file system in linux or programs ?20:33
Airbanderfiles system*20:33
Airbanderand thanks20:33
Airbanderany one here ?20:35
krytarik!patience | Airbander20:35
ubottuAirbander: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:35
Airbanderok thanks20:37
airglidehello everyone, i would like to install a software Raid 1 on my xubuntu pc which has two identical hdd how do I have to proceed?21:00
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holstein!raid21:13
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto21:13
holsteinairglide: ^21:13
holsteinalso.. mini iso can help get the base install the way you want..21:13
holstein!Mini21:13
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:13
airglide!raid21:17
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto21:17
airglideI've read http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Software-RAID but it isn't clear to me if it is possible to install first xubuntu on one hdd and then set up raid 1 for the first (on which the os is running) and the second. If i use parted i can't use that on a running system, can I?21:23
holsteinairglide: just dont even think about xubuntu.. just install *ubuntu*.. then, you can get that base working and running as you want.. you can use the mini iso that has more options, or, a server iso that is built for RAID environments.. *then*, after that is as you want, you install xubuntu-desktop, or xfce.. or whatevrer21:24
airglideokey ;) I'll try it that way, thanks21:25
sergio-br22hello21:38
sergio-br22are someone having problem with crackling audio ?21:39
AirbanderHi21:39
Airbanderbrb21:39
holsteinsergio-br22: no.. when did it start happening? after an update? right after install? has it ever worked? do you have a way to test  with a live CD or in windows to make sure the hardware isnt broken?21:40
sergio-br22I think it was working well before21:45
holsteinsergio-br22: you think? before what?21:45
sergio-br22audio crack a little bit watch movie in the web21:45
holsteinsergio-br22: only with flash audio?21:46
sergio-br22when i installed in this laptop, it was good21:46
sergio-br22until last week i think, it was good21:46
holsteinsergio-br22: that can be an issue with flash.. i would isolate that, and dont assume an audio problem with the machine or operating system if its just with flash audio online21:46
sergio-br22no, it happens too with retroarch21:46
holsteinsergio-br22: so, is it with *all* audio? or not?21:46
holstein!audio | sergio-br2221:47
ubottusergio-br22: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.21:47
sergio-br22first I thought that the problem was with retroarch, so I watched a web serie today, and realize that the problem maybe is with all audio21:47
holsteinsergio-br22: the link above will help you isolate..21:48
sergio-br22ok21:48
holsteinlinks*21:48
sergio-br22just a question, Alsa in ubuntu use Pulse for anything?21:48
holsteinsergio-br22: the links should help.. pulse is included in xubuntu21:49
sergio-br22when I use Alsa, am I using really Alsa or Pulse with Alsa emulation or something like that?21:49
holsteinsergio-br22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio21:50
sergio-br22ok, thanks21:51
sergio-br22I noticed now, the right bar in the volume applet is a little bit bigger: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-31-10-2014-195350.php21:56
xubuntu12wHello.  I want to learn how to use menuLibre.  It didn't work in my 14.04 Xubuntu.  Instructions I found said that it was broken (why did the Xubuntu people use a program that wasn't ready for public use?), that the fixed version would appear in 14.10 when it came out, and that, soon after, a repaired version would be available for download into 14.04.  I upgraded my old laptop to 14.10, and menuLibre still doesn't work.  I can't 22:04
sergio-br22when linux 3.16 go to backport?22:11
brainwashsergio-br22: feb 2015, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack22:13
sergio-br22hum22:15
brainwashany problems with 3.13 in trusty?22:16
sergio-br22well, it does not recognizes PS3 joystick :)22:17
sergio-br22maybe a stupid question... but why canonical didn't stayed with a long term kernel in a LTS version ?22:18
brainwash3.13 is a long term kernel version, because canonical will support if for 5 years :)22:19
sergio-br22heh, but not upstream22:19
brainwashit22:19
brainwashthey will backport important fixes22:19
sergio-br223.14 would fits better with 14.0422:19
brainwashbut 3.14 was released after the kernel freeze22:20
sergio-br22this thing in release stuff in fixed dates does not work always...22:20
sergio-br22yeah22:20
brainwashthat's how things work in the ubuntu world22:21
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xubuntu12wDoes anyone know about the use of menuLibre?22:55
slickymasterxubuntu12w: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=menulibre-docs23:00
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pukehey guys. is there a "devices" application in xubuntu like the one in ubuntu?23:53
pukethat i can see my usb memories for example23:53
deshiputhere is a 'devices' section in the thunar's panel23:54
deshipuside panel, I mean23:54
pukedeshipu: do you know the application that i'm trying to tell?23:55
pukedeshipu: sorry, my english may not be good23:55
deshipuno, sorry, I'm not using ubuntu23:55
pukedeshipu: in ubuntu, i press the super key and type "devices", and a little app opens23:55
pukedeshipu: i can see usb memories, harddisks and such23:55
deshiputhunar shows that in the side panel23:56
pukedeshipu: oh, sorry.23:56
pukedeshipu: can i like format them from thunar?23:56
deshipuno, but I think you can format them from the usb creator23:56
pukedeshipu: do you have any tips, shortcuts, hacks for xubuntu? i'm using ubuntu for more than a year and now i want to go to xubuntu.23:56
deshipuat least it used to do that23:56
pukei dont like unity23:57
pukedeshipu: i will check it. thank you very much23:57
deshiputhere are lots of those on the internet, just search for them23:57
deshipu!info23:58
deshipu!info usb-creator-gtk23:58
ubottuusb-creator-gtk (source: usb-creator): create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (for GNOME). In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.62 (utopic), package size 22 kB, installed size 222 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)23:58
deshiputhat's the one you need23:58
pukedeshipu: thank you very much.23:58
pukeone more question before i leave :)23:58
pukei executed: "locate *.deb"23:58
pukeand found vim's deb23:58
pukeand then i extracted it by dpkg-deb -x vim.deb23:59
pukecan i take it and go to another machine and run it?23:59
knomepuke, why don't you install vim from the repositories?23:59

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