[02:15] <xubuntu58w> Cannot open menulibre
[02:15] <xubuntu58w> help
[02:18] <xubuntu58w> tried to open in terminal recevied the following
[02:19] <xubuntu58w> ERROR:/build/buildd/gnome-menus-3.10.1/./libmenu/gmenu-tree.c:4022:preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed) Aborted (core dumped)
[04:49] <newbie89> everytime reboot desktop icon rearranged arbitrarily how can i fix the problem
[04:51] <newbie89> i have upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10
[04:51] <newbie89> there is no such problem on 14.04
[04:53] <cfhowlett> newbie89, changes from 14.04 to 14.10 are minimal and 14.10 has 9 months of support vs. 3 years for 14.04.  so the benefit of upgrading to 14.10 is .... what?
[05:04] <newbie89> cfhowlett: thanks for your mentions but now i can't undo the upgrade .. i find solution
[05:06] <cfhowlett> newbie89, what was the solution?
[05:07] <newbie89> cfhowlett: i couldn't find any solution yet
[05:07] <cfhowlett> newbie89, ah.  sorry.  reinstall 14.04.1???
[05:08] <newbie89> cfhowlett: sorry my english :)
[05:08] <cfhowlett> newbie89, I'm an American in China.  Your English is understandable.
[05:10] <newbie89> cfhowlett: i don't think reinstall 14.04
[05:10] <cfhowlett> newbie OK ...
[05:44] <minsikcho> Hi. I have some problems with hibernation in U45JC (Asus Laptop)
[05:45] <minsikcho> I've checked by uswsusp and dmesg that suspending and hibernation works correctly, but if I login to my account, it just turns black.
[06:18] <xubuntu99i> stuck at os xubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 upgradation
[09:23] <plod> Hello, I've recently installed 14.10 fresh. When I run certain programs (Firefox, Komodo-edit, Web Browser, synergy) the whole machine locks up displaying nothing but black, and only a reboot fixes. I cannot seem to find anything in logs but I am not 100% sure where to look.
[09:24] <ObrienDave> video drivers up to date?
[09:25] <plod> as far as I know, I have intel chipset
[09:25] <plod> tried to find newer driver intel only provide 14.04 packages
[09:26] <plod> ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel                    2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4
[09:27] <ObrienDave> get intel drivers from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[11:10] <xubuntu28w> bonjour
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !fr | xubuntu28w,
[11:11] <knome> xubuntu28w, hello
[15:34] <lord4163> My mom asked me why since we switched from Unity to Xubuntu, there are no thumbnails in the file picker. How do I enable it?
[15:35] <holstein> lord4163: you mean, from unity to xfce? ubuntu and xubuntu are both ubuntu.. you want thumbnails view of what files in thunar?
[15:36] <lord4163> holstein: No in the GTK file picker. (the one when you upload pictures to the interwebz)
[15:36] <holstein> lord4163: a screenshot may help me better understand waht you are asking about.. otherwise, try http://i.stack.imgur.com/4fUhS.png from http://askubuntu.com/questions/143253/how-can-i-enable-thumbnails-on-xubuntu-desktop ..should still be the same
[15:38] <lord4163> holstein: http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/doc/api/4.1/org/gnome/gtk/FileChooser.html
[15:39] <lord4163> When in a folder with pictures it shows tiny little thumbnails on the ubuntu-desktop and in xubuntu-desktop it just shows black icons.
[15:39] <holstein> lord4163: try the setting i linked, friend.. and let the volunteers know if it works for you
[15:41] <lord4163> Hope to see the option for different views like on the KDE desktop. You have to be a darn eagle to see what the picture is!!!
[15:42] <holstein> lord4163: you can look into "wishlist" bugs.. i would go as far upstream as possible.. debian, or the actual creators of the applications that you are seeking features for.. cheers
[15:43] <knome> lord4163, i don't think there is other views for the gtk file picker
[15:43] <knome> s/is/are/
[15:45] <lord4163> knome: it's stupid, it has been this crappy for as long as I use Linux.
[15:45] <knome> lord4163, patches are welcome
[15:45] <holstein> lord4163: you can always use the one from kde that you prefer
[15:46] <lord4163> holstein: No the problem is, is that only the folders which I have viewed before in thunar have the thumbnails it seems like.
[15:46] <lord4163> holstein: Really?
[15:46] <holstein> lord4163: i *actually* prefer if the way it as, as well.. so "crappy", keep in mind, its not necessarily anything more that just a preferece that we dont share
[15:48] <lord4163> holstein: I don't know how you like this better: First open thunar, browse to the folder with the pictures you want to upload, remember the names of the pictures, then go back to your browser, hope you remembered the names, and then select them, instead of seeing them directly.
[15:48] <holstein> lord4163: i prefer the text-only..
[15:49] <holstein> lord4163: the size is "better" for me.. i think its great you want thumbnails.. and you should and can have them
[15:49] <holstein> lord4163: i would consider just using kubuntu as a base, though, since it seems it fits your needs better "out of the box".. or, use a mix (which can be challenging, but possible
[15:51] <lord4163> holstein: Right so you prefer this size of the thumbnail? You must have a very good sight then http://i.imgur.com/awJ5mdI.png
[15:52] <holstein> lord4163: i prefer, as i said, *no* thumbs.. i like a text list.. but, i have other options for filemanagers, when i want/need
[15:53] <holstein> lord4163: i have not tried to change the gtk picker, but, if you want to find out what ubuntu is using in unity, you may be able to use that.. however, the path of least resistance may be to just start with kde
[15:56] <lord4163> holstein: The reason why I use XFCE is because the computer it's running on is terribly slow. If you know how to upgrade the file chooser, I would be happy to follow your instructions.
[15:59] <lord4163> holstein: However this must be a bug right?
[16:00] <knome> lord4163, i wouldn't consider it a bug but a design decision.
[16:01] <lord4163> knome: Well no, this is something that works on Unity, but doesn't on XFCE.
[16:01] <knome> lord4163, xfce/gtk isn't designed to be like unity
[16:02] <lord4163> It works on GNOME too, it's a bug in XFCE that doesn't generate the thumbnails appropriately.
[16:03] <knome> afaik it shouldn't depend on the DE, but the application that calls the dialog, but if it's about the DE too, then notice that xfce mostly uses GTK2 and the others GTK3
[16:05] <lord4163> Even in the GTK2 era, my mom never complained about this to me. And maybe I should clarify the problem more precisely?
[16:06] <knome> possibly
[16:06] <knome> i understand you're talking about the GTK file picker
[16:06] <knome> not thunar, or the desktop
[16:14] <holstein> lord4163: why not put your mom on something that you guys prefer?
[16:14] <lord4163> What do you mean?
[16:14] <holstein> lord4163: id say, its not going to be trivial to change that functionality, but its totaly possible
[16:15] <holstein> lord4163: i mean if kde or unity is a better fit or preferred, why not use one of those for your mom?
[16:16] <lord4163> holstein: As I earlier mentioned, those DE's are unusable on this old laptop.
[16:16] <lord4163> So this is how it looks like in the folders I have visited before in Thunar http://i.imgur.com/dR4jIdq.png
[16:17] <holstein> lord4163: maybe you can explain that to your mom, and also how there are always compromises.. also, consider mate if gnome2 is what she is used to and asking for
[16:17] <lord4163> This is how it looks like in folders I have NOT visited before in Thunar http://imgur.com/2UF7JHG
[16:19] <holstein> lord4163: this reads to me like what you are talking about, correct? http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=3470
[16:22] <lord4163> holstein: I have been liking XFCE and it has been a pleasure to swap the DE. I don't know about libexo?
[16:22] <lord4163> will be afk for a while
[16:22] <holstein> lord4163: cool.. let the volunteers know when you need more assistance.. good luck to you and your mom
[16:59] <lord4163> holstein: To who should I report this bug?
[17:00] <deshipu> !bugs | lord4163
[17:00] <lord4163> deshipu: I'm unsure if this is a Ubuntu specific bug tho?
[17:01] <deshipu> lord4163: doesn't matter
[17:10] <ThePendulum> I again have this issue that I can't shutdown o_o
[17:11] <Naphatul> i can't edit network connections anymore from networkmanager, might it have something to do with me messing with ethtool last night?
[17:12] <Naphatul> or it might have been from upgrading to 14.10 but i think i changed some settings since
[17:13] <Naphatul> also i'm running systemd
[17:18] <knome> Naphatul, networkmanager expects all connections to be in "auto" mode, it will not manage connections that have manually set configuration elsewhere
[17:19] <Naphatul> knome, but i can't hit the edit button at all even to edit new connections
[17:19] <Naphatul> even with a new connection i still can't change it for that either
[17:19] <knome> i mean, all *devices* to be in "auto" mode
[17:21] <Naphatul> well i tried changing it but still nothing
[17:21] <Naphatul> or do they need to be on separate lines?
[17:22] <knome> i don't understand the question
[17:22] <Naphatul> in /etc/network/interfaces the line "auto lo"
[17:22] <Naphatul> i added eth0 to it
[17:23] <knome> actually, looking at my version of the file, i think that they just shouldn't exist there
[17:23] <Naphatul> so that file is empty?
[17:23] <knome> Naphatul, just remove eth0 from there
[17:24] <Naphatul> knome, it wasn't there untill i added it
[17:24] <knome> but i would still say it's probably a symptom of playing with ethtool
[17:35] <Naphatul> is there a way to reset the interface settings?
[17:38] <Naphatul> oh wait ehtool changes don't persist after reboot do they?
[17:39] <Alexfrench> try to see your administrator rights for shutdown
[17:40] <Alexfrench> maybe the update to 14.10 change it
[17:49] <Alexfrench> tres sympa ceux qui ne repondent pas !!
[17:54] <spidey-linux> Is there anybody who knows to migration the data from HDD to SSD with Xubuntu
[17:59] <baizon> spidey-linux: well i used clonezilla
[18:00] <baizon> spidey-linux: http://frugaltech.happystoic.com/ssdlinux
[18:01] <baizon> this should help
[18:01] <Airbander> Hi
[18:01] <Airbander> where can i found the folder who contain the xubuntu wallpapers and thanks
[18:02] <baizon> Airbander: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/settings-preferences.html
[18:02] <spidey-linux> Thanx baizon, I hope to red these soon.
[18:04] <Airbander> thanks
[18:11] <Airbander> guys how open a folder from terminal
[18:12] <Airbander> and how to start mp3 music or image to listen and watch
[18:14] <bazhang> !crosspost | Airbander
[18:14] <Meerkat> Airbander, enter 'thunar &' in that terminal window
[18:15] <Airbander> thanks Meerkat
[18:15] <Airbander> this work for every file ?
[18:16] <Airbander> like mp3 mp4 mkv and docs ?
[18:17] <Airbander> ya it's working
[18:17] <Airbander> thanks you are the man
[18:19] <Airbander> Guys
[18:19] <Airbander> mv to move files and rename
[18:20] <Airbander> there is not a command to rename only
[18:20] <Meerkat> you rename with mv. mv OLD_NAME NEW_NAME
[18:21] <Airbander> i know my question i want to know if ther is only a rename command
[18:22] <Airbander> and thanks
[18:22] <knome> Airbander, the "only rename" command is mv
[18:22] <Airbander> ok
[18:22] <Airbander> thanks
[18:23] <Airbander> i think i'm gonna add a new command for linux comunity is that sound cool ?
[18:23] <baizon> for rename?
[18:23] <Airbander> ya
[18:23] <baizon> no, sounds bad
[18:23] <Airbander> why
[18:23] <knome> i think you can add it as a symlink for yourself, but there's no need to overcomplicate things
[18:24] <Airbander> :'(
[18:24] <Airbander> ok guys
[18:24] <Meerkat> rename is used for renaming multiple files with a regex
[18:24] <Airbander> regex
[18:24] <Meerkat> so that command already exists but is used for a slightly different purpose
[18:25] <Airbander> know we are one the same line
[18:25] <Airbander> thanks for this command
[18:25] <Airbander> regex i'm coming
[18:25] <knome> Airbander, if you simply want to rename files, you really don't need "rename"
[18:26] <knome> Airbander, don't overcomplicate.
[18:26] <Airbander> lol
[18:26] <Airbander> guys i'm new in linux
[18:26] <Airbander> dont take me seriously
[18:27] <knome> well, this isn't a channel for joking either
[18:27] <Airbander> i wasn't
[18:27] <knome> you weren't joking but we shouldn't take you seriously? you're sending mixed messages.
[18:28] <Airbander> you have time to chat
[18:28] <Airbander> ncie
[18:28] <Airbander> nice
[18:28] <knome> #xubuntu-offtopic is for the general chatter.
[18:29] <Airbander> cool
[18:30] <Airbander> any fast way to learn linux ?
[18:30] <knome> Airbander, as i said, please take the general chatter to #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:31] <Airbander> ok
[20:32] <Airbander> Hi Guys again
[20:33] <Airbander> when i type [poweroff] in command line the computer off very fast is that damage file system in linux or programs ?
[20:33] <Airbander> files system*
[20:33] <Airbander> and thanks
[20:35] <Airbander> any one here ?
[20:35] <krytarik> !patience | Airbander
[20:37] <Airbander> ok thanks
[21:00] <airglide> hello everyone, i would like to install a software Raid 1 on my xubuntu pc which has two identical hdd how do I have to proceed?
[21:13] <holstein> !raid
[21:13] <holstein> airglide: ^
[21:13] <holstein> also.. mini iso can help get the base install the way you want..
[21:13] <holstein> !Mini
[21:17] <airglide> !raid
[21:23] <airglide> I've read http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Software-RAID but it isn't clear to me if it is possible to install first xubuntu on one hdd and then set up raid 1 for the first (on which the os is running) and the second. If i use parted i can't use that on a running system, can I?
[21:24] <holstein> airglide: just dont even think about xubuntu.. just install *ubuntu*.. then, you can get that base working and running as you want.. you can use the mini iso that has more options, or, a server iso that is built for RAID environments.. *then*, after that is as you want, you install xubuntu-desktop, or xfce.. or whatevrer
[21:25] <airglide> okey ;) I'll try it that way, thanks
[21:38] <sergio-br22> hello
[21:39] <sergio-br22> are someone having problem with crackling audio ?
[21:39] <Airbander> Hi
[21:39] <Airbander> brb
[21:40] <holstein> sergio-br22: no.. when did it start happening? after an update? right after install? has it ever worked? do you have a way to test  with a live CD or in windows to make sure the hardware isnt broken?
[21:45] <sergio-br22> I think it was working well before
[21:45] <holstein> sergio-br22: you think? before what?
[21:45] <sergio-br22> audio crack a little bit watch movie in the web
[21:46] <holstein> sergio-br22: only with flash audio?
[21:46] <sergio-br22> when i installed in this laptop, it was good
[21:46] <sergio-br22> until last week i think, it was good
[21:46] <holstein> sergio-br22: that can be an issue with flash.. i would isolate that, and dont assume an audio problem with the machine or operating system if its just with flash audio online
[21:46] <sergio-br22> no, it happens too with retroarch
[21:46] <holstein> sergio-br22: so, is it with *all* audio? or not?
[21:47] <holstein> !audio | sergio-br22
[21:47] <sergio-br22> first I thought that the problem was with retroarch, so I watched a web serie today, and realize that the problem maybe is with all audio
[21:48] <holstein> sergio-br22: the link above will help you isolate..
[21:48] <sergio-br22> ok
[21:48] <holstein> links*
[21:48] <sergio-br22> just a question, Alsa in ubuntu use Pulse for anything?
[21:49] <holstein> sergio-br22: the links should help.. pulse is included in xubuntu
[21:49] <sergio-br22> when I use Alsa, am I using really Alsa or Pulse with Alsa emulation or something like that?
[21:50] <holstein> sergio-br22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[21:51] <sergio-br22> ok, thanks
[21:56] <sergio-br22> I noticed now, the right bar in the volume applet is a little bit bigger: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-31-10-2014-195350.php
[22:04] <xubuntu12w> Hello.  I want to learn how to use menuLibre.  It didn't work in my 14.04 Xubuntu.  Instructions I found said that it was broken (why did the Xubuntu people use a program that wasn't ready for public use?), that the fixed version would appear in 14.10 when it came out, and that, soon after, a repaired version would be available for download into 14.04.  I upgraded my old laptop to 14.10, and menuLibre still doesn't work.  I can't 
[22:11] <sergio-br22> when linux 3.16 go to backport?
[22:13] <brainwash> sergio-br22: feb 2015, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:15] <sergio-br22> hum
[22:16] <brainwash> any problems with 3.13 in trusty?
[22:17] <sergio-br22> well, it does not recognizes PS3 joystick :)
[22:18] <sergio-br22> maybe a stupid question... but why canonical didn't stayed with a long term kernel in a LTS version ?
[22:19] <brainwash> 3.13 is a long term kernel version, because canonical will support if for 5 years :)
[22:19] <sergio-br22> heh, but not upstream
[22:19] <brainwash> it
[22:19] <brainwash> they will backport important fixes
[22:19] <sergio-br22> 3.14 would fits better with 14.04
[22:20] <brainwash> but 3.14 was released after the kernel freeze
[22:20] <sergio-br22> this thing in release stuff in fixed dates does not work always...
[22:20] <sergio-br22> yeah
[22:21] <brainwash> that's how things work in the ubuntu world
[22:55] <xubuntu12w> Does anyone know about the use of menuLibre?
[23:00] <slickymaster> xubuntu12w: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=menulibre-docs
[23:53] <puke> hey guys. is there a "devices" application in xubuntu like the one in ubuntu?
[23:53] <puke> that i can see my usb memories for example
[23:54] <deshipu> there is a 'devices' section in the thunar's panel
[23:54] <deshipu> side panel, I mean
[23:55] <puke> deshipu: do you know the application that i'm trying to tell?
[23:55] <puke> deshipu: sorry, my english may not be good
[23:55] <deshipu> no, sorry, I'm not using ubuntu
[23:55] <puke> deshipu: in ubuntu, i press the super key and type "devices", and a little app opens
[23:55] <puke> deshipu: i can see usb memories, harddisks and such
[23:56] <deshipu> thunar shows that in the side panel
[23:56] <puke> deshipu: oh, sorry.
[23:56] <puke> deshipu: can i like format them from thunar?
[23:56] <deshipu> no, but I think you can format them from the usb creator
[23:56] <puke> deshipu: do you have any tips, shortcuts, hacks for xubuntu? i'm using ubuntu for more than a year and now i want to go to xubuntu.
[23:56] <deshipu> at least it used to do that
[23:57] <puke> i dont like unity
[23:57] <puke> deshipu: i will check it. thank you very much
[23:57] <deshipu> there are lots of those on the internet, just search for them
[23:58] <deshipu> !info
[23:58] <deshipu> !info usb-creator-gtk
[23:58] <deshipu> that's the one you need
[23:58] <puke> deshipu: thank you very much.
[23:58] <puke> one more question before i leave :)
[23:58] <puke> i executed: "locate *.deb"
[23:58] <puke> and found vim's deb
[23:59] <puke> and then i extracted it by dpkg-deb -x vim.deb
[23:59] <puke> can i take it and go to another machine and run it?
[23:59] <knome> puke, why don't you install vim from the repositories?