[01:02] <Noskcaj> bug 1388294
[01:13] <LinDol> hi all
[04:58] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks, though currently empathy is the only thing in main that requires it? no?
[04:59] <Noskcaj> i think i saw something else, forget what
[05:00] <Noskcaj> g-clocks, g-maps, empathy, all the variations of webkitgtk
[05:01] <darkxst> first two are universe
[05:02] <darkxst> Noskcaj, it wouldnt hurt to list all packages in main that have upstream support
[05:03] <darkxst> but are currently built against geoclue 1
[05:03] <Noskcaj> ok
[05:10] <Noskcaj> g-s-d also carries a revert
[05:16] <darkxst> the more the better
[05:17] <darkxst> though g-s-d is only in main for the schemas these days
[05:17] <darkxst> what about the qt5 positioning thing?
[05:19] <Noskcaj> ?
[05:19] <darkxst> libqt5positioning5-plugins
[05:19] <darkxst> seems odd that qt5 would be using obsolete libraries, but maybe it just is
[05:25] <Noskcaj> i'll look into it
[05:28] <darkxst> ok
[08:49] <GnomieHomie> Hi, I've been using Ubuntu 14.04, upgraded to 14.10 today and my system hangs on boot.
[08:49] <GnomieHomie> I see the start-up splash screen, then with all 3 dots highlighted, it hangs.
[08:50] <GnomieHomie> My system uses a Asus Maximus VI Hero motherboard, intel 4770k and Sapphire/AMD HD 7950. Nothing is overclocked (except the ram by just a little bit... to match the specs on the box it came in).
[08:51] <GnomieHomie> I normally use the official AMD drivers, rather than the OSS ones.
[08:52] <GnomieHomie> I can't boot to rescue mode - it won't bring up a terminal, etc, it just stops after a certain line. Currently, I'm using an live disc to access the system.
[08:53] <GnomieHomie> The last line that shows in rescue mode is: [    2.464692] Switched to clocksource tsc
[08:53] <GnomieHomie>  /var/log/dmesg shows the following after that line.
[08:53] <GnomieHomie> [    2.575723] init: Error while reading from descriptor: Broken pipe [    2.577537] init: failsafe main process (855) killed by TERM signal
[08:54] <GnomieHomie> .. and some other stuff that doesn't look suspect (though, I'm not sure if those lines I've pasted, are from me turning the PC off)
[08:55] <GnomieHomie> Pulling my hair out, open to any suggestions please :)
[08:56] <GnomieHomie> gdm log's last line is: /usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: LoadExtension
[09:01] <mgedmin> GnomieHomie, the 'failsafe ... killed by TERM' is normal, it doesn't break boot
[09:01] <mgedmin> the fglrx_drv error is definitely very suspicious
[09:01] <mgedmin> my laptop has intel video so I've no familiarity with amd's proprietary drivers
[09:01] <GnomieHomie> hmm, ok
[09:02] <mgedmin> can you check if the package versions you've got are up to date?
[09:02] <GnomieHomie> mgedmin: if it's display drivers, I could try reinstall/check for update, but for that, I would need to boot the system somehow.
[09:02] <mgedmin> how are you accessing the log files?
[09:03] <GnomieHomie> live disc
[09:03] <mgedmin> nm, found it in backlog
[09:03] <mgedmin> you can use chroot to install/remove packages
[09:03] <GnomieHomie> no idea how I would do that, any tips on what I should be googling (or want to tell me what to do)? Thanks.
[09:05] <mgedmin> open a terminal and sudo chroot /path/to/where/your/system/root/is/mounted /bin/bash
[09:05] <GnomieHomie> neato.
[09:05] <mgedmin> in there I'd run apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate
[09:05] <mgedmin> to see if there are any packages not matching the version in ubuntu archives (outdated or locally installed or anything)
[09:06] <mgedmin> you may need to apt install apt-show-versions
[09:07] <GnomieHomie> okay, thanks heaps, I'll give things a whirl and let you know how I get on
[09:07] <mgedmin> ideally you'd find someone who has amd video and is running 14.10 successfully on irc, and figure out how your systems differ...
[09:11] <mgedmin> by the way, is the live system you're using also 14.10?
[09:12] <GnomieHomie> yes
[09:12] <GnomieHomie> no, I mean.
[09:12] <GnomieHomie> 14.04
[09:12] <GnomieHomie> I haven't downloaded an iso to test if 14.10 works as new
[09:19] <GnomieHomie> mgedmin: any idea how to enable network access within the chroot?
[09:19] <mgedmin> open a different terminal (so you've a system outside the chroot) and sudo mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /path/to/chroot/etc/resolv.conf
[09:20] <mgedmin> s/a system/a shell/
[09:20] <GnomieHomie> sweet.
[09:21] <GnomieHomie> works well... loving this stuff *archives it for later*
[09:22] <mgedmin> note that if you end up having to install a kernel or grub from a live system like this, you also have to have more bind mounts
[09:22] <mgedmin> specifically /proc, /sys, /dev and /dev/pts
[09:22] <GnomieHomie> wow
[09:23] <GnomieHomie> ... mgedmin, at a guess, I figured I would reinstall gfx drivers, which uses intrafms (sp?) to put itself into the kernel.
[09:23] <mgedmin> no, I don't think they go into initramfs
[09:23] <GnomieHomie> Do I therefore need to do more binds, or should the install be OK as is?
[09:23] <mgedmin> should be fine
[09:33] <GnomieHomie> Hmm, I think it may well have been the gfx drivers, we'll see soon - I've uninstalled them.
[09:33] <GnomieHomie> Note to self, in future, before upgrade, uninstall proprietry drivers.
[09:34] <GnomieHomie> Install notes on the website say kernel supported up to 3.15, where-as Ubuntu is now at 3.16.
[09:34] <mgedmin> wait, did you install fglrx by hand?
[09:34] <mgedmin> instead of using ubuntu's own proprietary driver installer?
[09:34] <GnomieHomie> nah, there's an uninstall script
[09:34] <mgedmin> yeah, that can be a problem
[09:34] <GnomieHomie> Correction: Yes, I installed fglrx on my own.
[09:34] <mgedmin> but if you'd used ubuntu's jockey (iirc that's what it's called), then I'd expect the system to survive an upgrade
[09:34] <mgedmin> ah, ok
[09:34] <mgedmin> yes
[09:35] <GnomieHomie> well, wish me luck, see ya.
[11:06] <nlsthzn> so glad I found out about Alt+F2 then r to restart gnome-shell... some of the extensions sometimes go wonky and now I can sort them out in 2 seconds :)
[11:25] <tdg5> hello all, is there anyone here who can offer me some insight into what I would need to do to get a patch backported/added to the gnome-3-10 branch of the gnome-shell-extensioms project?
[11:29] <tdg5> I don't think it's something particular to my system, but the 3.10 version of the places-menu extension fails to load because it's missing a patch that seems to have only been added to 3.12+
[11:29] <tdg5> This is the missing patch: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions/commit/extensions/places-menu/placeDisplay.js?h=gnome-3-12&id=e73752118d30a9c17a6403036ea33d6eb0e70e55
[16:02] <Gnomebuntuknilch> 014
[18:12] <MichaelTunnell> GNOME is reactivating wifi on reboot...is there a way in Ubuntu GNOME to force it to always be disabled?
[18:15] <MichaelTunnell> anyone?
[18:19] <MichaelTunnell> I suppose rfkill block is the best method for this with a soft block
[18:20] <Gnomebuntuknilch> MichaelTunnell: blacklist the drivermodul
[18:22] <MichaelTunnell> well need it to work if necessary at some point so blacklist is too permanent