| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| shauno | (legit freebie, not five-fingered) | 00:04 |
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| daftykins | i wouldn't think you the sort, sir | 00:04 |
| shauno | heh | 00:04 |
| daftykins | after a 6 month contract doing IT support in an educational establishment, they phoned me up one day to ask if i knew where one of their Asus Eee netbooks went | 00:04 |
| shauno | we had to dispose of a whole bunch of them when we finally figured out how to move the application they hosted to VMs | 00:04 |
| daftykins | i owned a sony ultraportable at the time which i took it several times so they knew i had something better | 00:05 |
| daftykins | odd they didn't think the guy that left to go travelling and kept saying "these are really nice machines" had done it | 00:05 |
| daftykins | shauno: :D | 00:05 |
| daftykins | shauno: was it tricky? | 00:05 |
| shauno | it actually was .. all the licences were tied to a SN it pulled from an eprom on the board | 00:06 |
| daftykins | ooh, how is the EEPROM shared on the VMs to allow reading? | 00:06 |
| shauno | I replaced the tool it uses to read the eprom, with a script that shoves out an imaginary number (VM+the mac address) | 00:07 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:07 |
| shauno | so now we can just tie licences to those | 00:07 |
| shauno | (it's our software, so the licences aren't an issue .. but they do need a number to tie to) | 00:08 |
| shauno | just it's cranky old stuff that was EOL'd in 2005, and if you ask the development guys in india for any help, you'll grow old waiting | 00:08 |
| daftykins | :( they don't even shut you down? | 00:10 |
| shauno | well we're not meant to support it anymore either | 00:11 |
| shauno | but it works out a whole lot better if we can when we have to | 00:12 |
| daftykins | i'm so glad i've gotten rid of XP from everywhere i used to see it | 00:12 |
| shauno | telling customers they're SOL is really bad for all the happy metric stuff that managers obsess over lol | 00:12 |
| daftykins | metric stuff? what does that thing do? | 00:14 |
| shauno | I mean the various ways the managers measure how useful we are | 00:15 |
| shauno | like one of the big ones is how many hours a case stays open for. that's really difficult when you have equipment that no-one supports | 00:16 |
| daftykins | :| | 00:16 |
| shauno | so our lab has more hacks than an 80s movie :) | 00:16 |
| daftykins | "it no longer exists" is not a good enough reason? :( | 00:17 |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers a cpm computer still in use in the 90s as it had been modified by crazed electrician to control power plant | 00:25 | |
| daftykins | D: | 00:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | with code running uncompiled... | 00:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | in basic :-) | 00:27 |
| shauno | heh, I used to work in a hotel that used a dos program as their booking app | 00:28 |
| shauno | every year they printed out all the bookings, and then changed the year in the config file and started from fresh | 00:28 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:29 |
| daftykins | that must've been a fine print run | 00:29 |
| daftykins | surely they hit some memory limitations? | 00:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | and every leap year there was panic? | 00:29 |
| shauno | nah, it didn't handle 2k well | 00:30 |
| shauno | so they just nuked it and started again each year | 00:30 |
| shauno | and every winter we'd be taking next summer's bookings on paper, until the computer got flicked around | 00:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | i remember servicing a video point of sales system that some staff had tried to insert money into | 00:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | coins on motherboard are bad, m'kay | 00:31 |
| shauno | man, it's been so long since I've used this router, I have no idea what I'm doing :/ | 00:33 |
| * zmoylan-pi passes shauno my hammer | 00:34 | |
| shauno | I think I've got it. just waiting 3 years for it to reboot to find out :/ | 00:38 |
| shauno | ah. forgot when I get a new v4 address I have to update HE's end of the tunnel too | 00:49 |
| shauno | sorted \o/ | 00:49 |
| shauno | I still have no idea why this works. one modem, two routers, they both get addresses | 00:53 |
| daftykins | wat. | 00:54 |
| shauno | yarly. | 00:54 |
| daftykins | i'm sure that's permissable when paying for it, but not if you're not | 00:54 |
| daftykins | maybe your ISP just has no idea? | 00:54 |
| daftykins | have you tried for a third? | 00:54 |
| shauno | yup. I can get 4, one off each port on the modem | 00:55 |
| shauno | but I only really have use for 2 :) | 00:55 |
| daftykins | O_O | 00:55 |
| daftykins | are they sequential too, or just in the same space? | 00:55 |
| daftykins | the IPs | 00:55 |
| shauno | oh they're nowhere close | 00:56 |
| daftykins | and unrepeatable? assuming you're on dynamic | 00:56 |
| shauno | atm my wifi's 89.101.etc and my lab is 46.7.etc | 00:57 |
| shauno | they seem to get a decent length lease on each mac address | 00:57 |
| shauno | so the lab only changes if I leave it unplugged for >28 days | 00:57 |
| shauno | and my wifi .. there's no way I'm unplugging that for 28 days to find out :) | 00:58 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:58 |
| shauno | so my network is really quite messy | 00:59 |
| shauno | both my apple router & my lab router have v6 tunnels | 00:59 |
| shauno | and then the lab router is advertising a private ipv6 subnet to the real router | 00:59 |
| daftykins | just so both sides can chat? | 01:00 |
| shauno | yeah. otherwise connecting to a box under my desk goes router->isp->london->paris->isp>router2 | 01:01 |
| shauno | (because henet-london didn't have any free endpoints when I setup the tunnel for the lab, so their endpoints are in different cities) | 01:01 |
| shauno | and then for v4 they're completely seperate networks | 01:02 |
| shauno | the lab is 12u of some very noisy trash, so I have this convoluted config so I can reach it without routing through it. because noisy trash gets turned off a lot. | 01:06 |
| daftykins | shauno: do you have pics? :D | 01:11 |
| shauno | http://cl.ly/image/3U001H143S31 | 01:12 |
| daftykins | cor, nice footwarmer | 01:15 |
| shauno | lol. I don't sit at the desk often. there's not really space for me there anymore | 01:16 |
| daftykins | :) | 01:16 |
| daftykins | is there a nice hum from over there? | 01:18 |
| shauno | it's not so bad as long as the dell's off | 01:19 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:21 |
| daftykins | i had a 1U poweredge with dual P4 era Xeons | 01:22 |
| daftykins | damn it was all noise and no beans | 01:22 |
| shauno | that's probably what this is lol .. 2xE5420 | 01:26 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 01:27 |
| daftykins | one i had, had 2GB RAM totally decked out | 01:27 |
| daftykins | i was playing with what was VMware ESXi at the time, but that RAM wasn't much for anything :( | 01:27 |
| shauno | this should take 32, but I won't pay for it | 01:27 |
| shauno | (ecc ddr2 is *not* cheap) | 01:27 |
| shauno | or it wasn't last time I looked heh | 01:28 |
| shauno | oh now see, this is how bad things happen | 01:29 |
| shauno | 32GB for this machine is around 140eur | 01:29 |
| shauno | for 150, I can get the same machine again, but with 32 already in it (and two slightly better procs) | 01:29 |
| daftykins | ! | 01:30 |
| daftykins | that's insane | 01:30 |
| daftykins | :> | 01:30 |
| shauno | seriously, http://www.ebay.ie/itm/381036708860 for 10 quid more, the ram comes with a 3GHz 'footwarmer' | 01:31 |
| shauno | I may have to keep an eye on that to see if it moves =x | 01:31 |
| shauno | heh, so I fired it up to see what cpuinfo said | 01:34 |
| shauno | now I'm staring at it wondering why on earth it's running centos | 01:34 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:35 |
| shauno | anyway. now that it's all alive .. I'm going to bed | 01:38 |
| daftykins | nn sir :) | 01:38 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: http://www.amazon.com/Did-You-Read-That-Review-ebook/dp/B00O7XEOJY | 07:46 |
| MartijnVdS | (or http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00O7XEOJY) | 07:47 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:10 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| boris | k | 16:18 |
| SuperEngineer | o | 16:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | a | 16:30 |
| SuperEngineer | l | 16:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | a | 16:30 |
| SuperEngineer | :D | 16:31 |
| shauno | I thought you were all still asleep? | 16:36 |
| SuperEngineer | ok, getting cheesed off now - 3rd x-crash in a week. getting tired of suddenly disappearing, getting tired of using REISUB. must investigate... sometime :) | 16:47 |
| SuperEngineer | [in the mentime, I'll blame it on the boogie] | 16:51 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| daftykins | http://twitch.tv/daftpunkle | 17:48 |
| daftykins | =] | 17:48 |
| daftykins | nothing like beating your friends record in a game :D | 17:51 |
| daftykins | by a tenth of a second no less XD | 17:51 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:52 |
| daftykins | hey brobostigon, up to much today? | 17:55 |
| brobostigon | not much upto now, and you? | 17:55 |
| daftykins | spot of shopping, just installed xubuntu-desktop onto this old macbook i was given by a friend and now relaxing with Forza Horizon 2 on the xbox one :> | 17:56 |
| popey | A'noon | 17:56 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:57 |
| daftykins | hey popey, how goes it? | 17:57 |
| brobostigon | afternoodlings popey | 17:57 |
| daftykins | mm noodles | 17:57 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:57 |
| shauno | careful, you'll wake dan up | 17:57 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:58 |
| daftykins | ah-ha, right clicking is a distinct challenge on this thing | 17:58 |
| daftykins | as in, i don't know how to do it :) | 17:58 |
| popey | tickety boo | 18:26 |
| * DJones ticks popey's boo | 19:32 | |
| brobostigon | new dr who, :) | 20:14 |
| daftykins | yawn :P | 20:15 |
| shauno | heh, that was bad | 20:41 |
| directhex | rabble rabble | 21:04 |
| daftykins | i'm writing up a forum post with how well this macbook took to Trusty | 21:06 |
| daftykins | seems the only way to update the mac docs | 21:06 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Is it on a wiki ? | 21:07 |
| daftykins | penguin42 - i suppose sort of? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages | 21:11 |
| penguin42 | looks a bit prehistoric | 21:12 |
| Laney | how's that sort of? | 21:17 |
| Laney | adding a new page there seems likely to be the way to have most people find it to me | 21:17 |
| Laney | does seem like the MacTel team is dormant though | 21:18 |
| penguin42 | Laney: It's just a little suspicious it's not got many models from the last few years | 21:18 |
| directhex | now i'm scared to upgrade my macbook | 21:20 |
| Laney | I'm running my 7.1 on Utopic | 21:21 |
| Laney | don't think it requires any particular hax any mroe | 21:21 |
| daftykins | how do you add a page there? | 21:21 |
| daftykins | Laney: it's sort of because it's the first time i'm looking at it and am not familiar | 21:21 |
| Laney | fair | 21:22 |
| Laney | I think that even if the team which used to maintain it has gone away it's nice to put the page where most people will find it | 21:22 |
| Laney | or at least a link | 21:22 |
| Laney | you should be able to add a page by naviating to what its URL ought to be and clicking the link from there | 21:22 |
| Laney | (if you're signed in) | 21:23 |
| directhex | my mac's for work. do i need to upgrade? | 21:23 |
| daftykins | directhex: don't be facetious :P | 21:23 |
| daftykins | ah i see the controls for logging into the site now, but it seems to be stuck and not loading after i hit 'yes, log in' | 21:27 |
| popey | takes a while | 21:28 |
| popey | \o/ 500 internal server error | 21:30 |
| * popey files an rt | 21:30 | |
| penguin42 | perhaps it needs a new rubber band | 21:31 |
| popey | done. | 21:31 |
| andylockran | thanks for the tip earlier popey :) | 21:35 |
| popey | np | 21:37 |
| daftykins | ok i've got my page up and edited, it seems to have mentioned some usernames that have been notified | 21:51 |
| daftykins | is there any way i can contact those people to get my page actually linked from the main one? | 21:51 |
| daftykins | or do they just have to review it first | 21:51 |
| popey | the people who got a mail are just people subscribed to the page | 21:57 |
| popey | anyone can do that | 21:57 |
| popey | they may or may not be involved | 21:57 |
| daftykins | there don't seem to be any edit controls on the parent? | 21:57 |
| popey | url? | 21:57 |
| daftykins | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages | 21:58 |
| popey | its editable here | 21:58 |
| daftykins | i'd like to add my new page under the LTS column for - MacBook 3,1 | 21:58 |
| daftykins | 21:58 | |
| daftykins | late 2007 oops. | 21:58 |
| daftykins | weird, i have no controls | 21:59 |
| daftykins | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Trusty | 21:59 |
| daftykins | there's my new page | 21:59 |
| daftykins | ah hang on | 22:01 |
| daftykins | i'm being quite the idiot | 22:01 |
| popey | two separate sites to login to | 22:01 |
| daftykins | *nod* didn't even see the login link | 22:02 |
| daftykins | these old specs are driving me spare :( | 22:02 |
| daftykins | huzzah it is done! | 22:09 |
| daftykins | well that's one less blank | 22:11 |
| Azelphur | this is the problem buying something off facebook, I have someone claiming this table is 190x50cm https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=c61f23dba3521479aa81f4c3f65f25ab | 22:13 |
| Azelphur | someone clearly doesn't know how to count. | 22:14 |
| daftykins | 0o | 22:15 |
| Azelphur | like yea, if the table is 50cm wide, the shelf underneath is 25cm, and the place mats are 12.5cm | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | it could be 190x50 inches | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | or it could be a tiny table | 22:27 |
| ali1234 | i'm going with inches | 22:28 |
| === OERIAS is now known as MOERIAS | ||
| === MOERIAS is now known as OERIAS | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
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