=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:04] (legit freebie, not five-fingered) [00:04] i wouldn't think you the sort, sir [00:04] heh [00:04] after a 6 month contract doing IT support in an educational establishment, they phoned me up one day to ask if i knew where one of their Asus Eee netbooks went [00:04] we had to dispose of a whole bunch of them when we finally figured out how to move the application they hosted to VMs [00:05] i owned a sony ultraportable at the time which i took it several times so they knew i had something better [00:05] odd they didn't think the guy that left to go travelling and kept saying "these are really nice machines" had done it [00:05] shauno: :D [00:05] shauno: was it tricky? [00:06] it actually was .. all the licences were tied to a SN it pulled from an eprom on the board [00:06] ooh, how is the EEPROM shared on the VMs to allow reading? [00:07] I replaced the tool it uses to read the eprom, with a script that shoves out an imaginary number (VM+the mac address) [00:07] XD [00:07] so now we can just tie licences to those [00:08] (it's our software, so the licences aren't an issue .. but they do need a number to tie to) [00:08] just it's cranky old stuff that was EOL'd in 2005, and if you ask the development guys in india for any help, you'll grow old waiting [00:10] :( they don't even shut you down? [00:11] well we're not meant to support it anymore either [00:12] but it works out a whole lot better if we can when we have to [00:12] i'm so glad i've gotten rid of XP from everywhere i used to see it [00:12] telling customers they're SOL is really bad for all the happy metric stuff that managers obsess over lol [00:14] metric stuff? what does that thing do? [00:15] I mean the various ways the managers measure how useful we are [00:16] like one of the big ones is how many hours a case stays open for. that's really difficult when you have equipment that no-one supports [00:16] :| [00:16] so our lab has more hacks than an 80s movie :) [00:17] "it no longer exists" is not a good enough reason? :( [00:25] * zmoylan-pi remembers a cpm computer still in use in the 90s as it had been modified by crazed electrician to control power plant [00:26] D: [00:27] with code running uncompiled... [00:27] in basic :-) [00:28] heh, I used to work in a hotel that used a dos program as their booking app [00:28] every year they printed out all the bookings, and then changed the year in the config file and started from fresh [00:29] XD [00:29] that must've been a fine print run [00:29] surely they hit some memory limitations? [00:29] and every leap year there was panic? [00:30] nah, it didn't handle 2k well [00:30] so they just nuked it and started again each year [00:30] and every winter we'd be taking next summer's bookings on paper, until the computer got flicked around [00:31] i remember servicing a video point of sales system that some staff had tried to insert money into [00:31] coins on motherboard are bad, m'kay [00:33] man, it's been so long since I've used this router, I have no idea what I'm doing :/ [00:34] * zmoylan-pi passes shauno my hammer [00:38] I think I've got it. just waiting 3 years for it to reboot to find out :/ [00:49] ah. forgot when I get a new v4 address I have to update HE's end of the tunnel too [00:49] sorted \o/ [00:53] I still have no idea why this works. one modem, two routers, they both get addresses [00:54] wat. [00:54] yarly. [00:54] i'm sure that's permissable when paying for it, but not if you're not [00:54] maybe your ISP just has no idea? [00:54] have you tried for a third? [00:55] yup. I can get 4, one off each port on the modem [00:55] but I only really have use for 2 :) [00:55] O_O [00:55] are they sequential too, or just in the same space? [00:55] the IPs [00:56] oh they're nowhere close [00:56] and unrepeatable? assuming you're on dynamic [00:57] atm my wifi's 89.101.etc and my lab is 46.7.etc [00:57] they seem to get a decent length lease on each mac address [00:57] so the lab only changes if I leave it unplugged for >28 days [00:58] and my wifi .. there's no way I'm unplugging that for 28 days to find out :) [00:58] XD [00:59] so my network is really quite messy [00:59] both my apple router & my lab router have v6 tunnels [00:59] and then the lab router is advertising a private ipv6 subnet to the real router [01:00] just so both sides can chat? [01:01] yeah. otherwise connecting to a box under my desk goes router->isp->london->paris->isp>router2 [01:01] (because henet-london didn't have any free endpoints when I setup the tunnel for the lab, so their endpoints are in different cities) [01:02] and then for v4 they're completely seperate networks [01:06] the lab is 12u of some very noisy trash, so I have this convoluted config so I can reach it without routing through it. because noisy trash gets turned off a lot. [01:11] shauno: do you have pics? :D [01:12] http://cl.ly/image/3U001H143S31 [01:15] cor, nice footwarmer [01:16] lol. I don't sit at the desk often. there's not really space for me there anymore [01:16] :) [01:18] is there a nice hum from over there? [01:19] it's not so bad as long as the dell's off [01:21] :D [01:22] i had a 1U poweredge with dual P4 era Xeons [01:22] damn it was all noise and no beans [01:26] that's probably what this is lol .. 2xE5420 [01:27] hrmm [01:27] one i had, had 2GB RAM totally decked out [01:27] i was playing with what was VMware ESXi at the time, but that RAM wasn't much for anything :( [01:27] this should take 32, but I won't pay for it [01:27] (ecc ddr2 is *not* cheap) [01:28] or it wasn't last time I looked heh [01:29] oh now see, this is how bad things happen [01:29] 32GB for this machine is around 140eur [01:29] for 150, I can get the same machine again, but with 32 already in it (and two slightly better procs) [01:30] ! [01:30] that's insane [01:30] :> [01:31] seriously, http://www.ebay.ie/itm/381036708860 for 10 quid more, the ram comes with a 3GHz 'footwarmer' [01:31] I may have to keep an eye on that to see if it moves =x [01:34] heh, so I fired it up to see what cpuinfo said [01:34] now I'm staring at it wondering why on earth it's running centos [01:35] :D [01:38] anyway. now that it's all alive .. I'm going to bed [01:38] nn sir :) [07:46] popey: http://www.amazon.com/Did-You-Read-That-Review-ebook/dp/B00O7XEOJY [07:47] (or http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00O7XEOJY) === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:10] morning boys and girls. === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon [16:18] k [16:29] o [16:30] a [16:30] l [16:30] a [16:31] :D [16:36] I thought you were all still asleep? [16:47] ok, getting cheesed off now - 3rd x-crash in a week. getting tired of suddenly disappearing, getting tired of using REISUB. must investigate... sometime :) [16:51] [in the mentime, I'll blame it on the boogie] === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:48] http://twitch.tv/daftpunkle [17:48] =] [17:51] nothing like beating your friends record in a game :D [17:51] by a tenth of a second no less XD [17:52] :) [17:55] hey brobostigon, up to much today? [17:55] not much upto now, and you? [17:56] spot of shopping, just installed xubuntu-desktop onto this old macbook i was given by a friend and now relaxing with Forza Horizon 2 on the xbox one :> [17:56] A'noon [17:57] :) [17:57] hey popey, how goes it? [17:57] afternoodlings popey [17:57] mm noodles [17:57] :) [17:57] careful, you'll wake dan up [17:58] :D [17:58] ah-ha, right clicking is a distinct challenge on this thing [17:58] as in, i don't know how to do it :) [18:26] tickety boo [19:32] * DJones ticks popey's boo [20:14] new dr who, :) [20:15] yawn :P [20:41] heh, that was bad [21:04] rabble rabble [21:06] i'm writing up a forum post with how well this macbook took to Trusty [21:06] seems the only way to update the mac docs [21:07] daftykins: Is it on a wiki ? [21:11] penguin42 - i suppose sort of? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [21:12] looks a bit prehistoric [21:17] how's that sort of? [21:17] adding a new page there seems likely to be the way to have most people find it to me [21:18] does seem like the MacTel team is dormant though [21:18] Laney: It's just a little suspicious it's not got many models from the last few years [21:20] now i'm scared to upgrade my macbook [21:21] I'm running my 7.1 on Utopic [21:21] don't think it requires any particular hax any mroe [21:21] how do you add a page there? [21:21] Laney: it's sort of because it's the first time i'm looking at it and am not familiar [21:22] fair [21:22] I think that even if the team which used to maintain it has gone away it's nice to put the page where most people will find it [21:22] or at least a link [21:22] you should be able to add a page by naviating to what its URL ought to be and clicking the link from there [21:23] (if you're signed in) [21:23] my mac's for work. do i need to upgrade? [21:23] directhex: don't be facetious :P [21:27] ah i see the controls for logging into the site now, but it seems to be stuck and not loading after i hit 'yes, log in' [21:28] takes a while [21:30] \o/ 500 internal server error [21:30] * popey files an rt [21:31] perhaps it needs a new rubber band [21:31] done. [21:35] thanks for the tip earlier popey :) [21:37] np [21:51] ok i've got my page up and edited, it seems to have mentioned some usernames that have been notified [21:51] is there any way i can contact those people to get my page actually linked from the main one? [21:51] or do they just have to review it first [21:57] the people who got a mail are just people subscribed to the page [21:57] anyone can do that [21:57] they may or may not be involved [21:57] there don't seem to be any edit controls on the parent? [21:57] url? [21:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [21:58] its editable here [21:58] i'd like to add my new page under the LTS column for - MacBook 3,1 [21:58] [21:58] late 2007 oops. [21:59] weird, i have no controls [21:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Trusty [21:59] there's my new page [22:01] ah hang on [22:01] i'm being quite the idiot [22:01] two separate sites to login to [22:02] *nod* didn't even see the login link [22:02] these old specs are driving me spare :( [22:09] huzzah it is done! [22:11] well that's one less blank [22:13] this is the problem buying something off facebook, I have someone claiming this table is 190x50cm https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=c61f23dba3521479aa81f4c3f65f25ab [22:14] someone clearly doesn't know how to count. [22:15] 0o [22:16] like yea, if the table is 50cm wide, the shelf underneath is 25cm, and the place mats are 12.5cm [22:26] it could be 190x50 inches [22:27] or it could be a tiny table [22:28] i'm going with inches === OERIAS is now known as MOERIAS === MOERIAS is now known as OERIAS === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away