[03:14] <Levitcus> yo
[04:50] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me)
[04:51] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[04:56] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[04:57] <ubot2> Leviticus called the ops in #ubuntu-bots-team (waaa rww ban me!)
[14:10] <JanC> seems like Levitcus found out there is no ban in #ubuntu-server yet...
[18:20] <Finrod> When I went into the #ubuntu-ops channel, I saw that only two other users are active in that channel, and no one is messaging anything for the last hour.  Also, no one is responding to my messages in #ubuntu-ops channel
[18:22] <Finrod> Does that mean I am banned or somehow prohibited from the #ubuntu-ops channel?
[18:45] <popey> Finrod: it means people are either a) away from their keyboard, or b) ignoring you for some reason. Probably.
[18:46] <Finrod> ok, thanks
[18:47] <Finrod> If this channel is not for support, what is the purpose of this channel?  And am I allowed to use this channel?
[18:47] <popey> This is for support for operators of Ubuntu channels.
[19:00] <k1l_> Finrod: the #ubuntu-ops channel is not a general support channel. its a channel to talk to ops about the moderation of the channels and /or to deal with kaicks/bans. the reason no one likes to answer you is because the way the discussions went and the actions that came after that discussions.
[19:01] <Finrod> Doe that mean I should leave the #ubuntu-ops channel now, and I am no longer welcome there, k1l_?
[19:03] <k1l_> Finrod: the #ubuntu-ops channel is for the purpose i just said. if you dont have an actual issue to talk with/about ops please leave the channel, because only ops-team-members are meant to idle (stay) there so it stays clear for users who want to talk to/about ops regarding the moderation of the core ubuntu channels.
[19:04] <k1l_> Finrod: everybody is welcome there but please only stay in there as long you deal with an issue.
[19:04] <Finrod> The ubuntu-ops channel is the only channel where I am allowed to discuss my account problems, as far as I know, and now it is no longer working
[19:06] <popey> ubuntu-forums account?
[19:07] <Finrod> yes
[19:07] <Finrod> Ubuntu One SSO accounts
[19:07] <popey> that's not something the people in #ubuntu-ops can help you with
[19:07] <k1l_> Finrod: no. your case is no longer a user - op topic, your case got escalated to the ircc. so please talk to the ircc about the issues with your bans. the #ubuntu-ops channel is also not responsible for ubuntuforums login issues etc. please talk the the specific team.
[19:11] <Finrod> I am sorry. I don't want to cause any further trouble.  should I now leave both the #ubuntu-ops and the #ubuntu-irc channel?
[19:12] <rww> #ubuntu-ops you should leave because you have no pending business there (as it's been referred to IRCC). You're welcome to idle here, but for the avoidance of confusion I'd recommend parting here too and just talking to IRCC folks.
[19:12] <Finrod> I was kicked from the ubuntuforums channel too, last time I tried to address my Ubuntu One account problems.  Please note this.
[19:12] <Finrod> thanks for your help, rww
[19:12] <k1l_> Finrod: you are free to idle in here. but, as i said, #ubuntu-ops is not meant for users to idle there.
[19:13] <k1l_> and the irc ops cant really help on forums issues. that you need to sort with the forums crew.
[19:14] <Finrod> How can I email the ubuntu forums admin without accessing my Ubuntu One account?
[19:16] <rww> sec, I'll ping one of them and ask
[19:20] <Finrod> ok
[19:20] <rww> Finrod: ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <Finrod> thank you, rww
[19:35] <HFSPLUS> !ops | rww
[19:36] <HFSPLUS> fuck rww
[19:36] <HFSPLUS> rww, you suck
[20:25] <Finrod> How do I get the name of my outgoing server, SMTP?  I am trying to send an email to ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com.  It looks like it bounced when I tried to send it by Hotmail.
[20:29] <teward> go to hotmail's website
[20:29] <teward> use their web client
[20:29] <teward> send email.
[20:30] <Finrod> Isn't there web client Outlook?  I already used that to send the email
[20:30] <teward> alternatively, start here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/outlook/send-receive-from-app
[20:30] <teward> Finrod: that's hotmail's website :P  web client == outlook.com since microsoft did all their stuff.
[20:31] <Finrod> I see
[20:32] <Finrod> Does that mean there is a command somewhere in the Outlook client, which I am using now, to find the name of my outgoing server?
[20:33] <rww> #ubuntu-irc is for operator issues relating to the Ubuntu namespace. It is not a support channel, *especially* not for Windows software.
[20:33] <k1l_> see the faq of your email-provider. their support will provide the server settings for your email issues
[20:34] <elky> #freenode isn't either, fwiw
[20:34] <rww> elky: #freenode is a general support channel.
[20:36] <Finrod> ok
[20:36] <Finrod> thanks
[20:37] <teward> also consider using "Google" to find the info you need, Finrod
[21:33] <Finrod> Where can I go to get help accessing the logs?  Which ubuntu channel should I go to?
[21:34] <k1l_> !irclogs
[21:36] <Finrod> I cannot find the ubuntu forums logs in this location, where they are supposed to be:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/08/25/
[21:36] <Unit193> #ubuntuforums is a social channel, thus unlogged.
[21:40] <Finrod> I am trying to answer a question from an ubuntu forums operator, who requested the log.  He wants to see the log evidence of the exchange, for proof that a conversation actually occured, so I assume there must be logs somewhere.  His email suggests that channel is in fact logged, and he wants to see the log
[21:40] <rww> That's between you and the forums operator. We do not publicly log #ubuntuforums, so any log would have to come from someone's IRC client (probably yours or his).
[21:41] <Finrod> ok, thanks
[21:42] <k1l_> Finrod: besides the public logs there could be your own logs, if you client is setup to log, too.
[21:43] <k1l_> so maybe he is assuming you have your own logs.
[21:43] <Finrod> yes, I have chatzilla
[21:48] <Finrod> but the conversation happened before I began using chatzilla.  But I had copied and pasted the entire conversation into LibreOffice Writer, on Monday night, 25 August, and included it all in my email to him.  But he said he still wants the log, probably to substaniate it is true and accurate
[22:32] <Finrod> Sorry, more likely AbiWord
[22:32] <Finrod> Not LibreOffice Writer
[22:35] <Finrod> I successfully sent several emails to the ubuntu forums and ubuntu IRC operators today, thanks to your help.  Hopefully, that will resolve all of my outstanding issues.  I appreciate your help and patience