[04:29] <Kilos> morning all
[05:40] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[05:47] <kbmonkey> Hi Kilos 
[05:48] <Kilos> hi charl 
[06:36] <kbmonkey> Kilos: https://asciinema.org/a/13520
[06:36] <Kilos> i go see
[06:39] <Kilos> kbmonkey, is that the stickbooted
[06:41] <Kilos> or unetbootin wanting to make the stick still
[06:41] <Kilos> kbmonkey, 
[06:43] <kbmonkey> Yep, unetboot
[06:44] <kbmonkey> Cool recording terminal commands like that. 
[06:50] <Kilos> lol
[07:11] <Kilos> i like unetbootin have had one not work yet
[07:21] <kbmonkey> It is still going kilos
[07:22] <kbmonkey> all I want to do is install ubuntu
[07:23] <Kilos> normally it seems to hang for a while
[07:24] <Kilos> is it 66% i think then all of a sudden its done
[07:25] <Kilos> but should take about 5 mins
[07:25] <Kilos> you got something wrong with that stick
[07:26]  * Kilos mails the monkey a blank dvd
[07:27] <kbmonkey> All sticks do this. Yes at 55% it hits a lage file. Progress only updates per file
[07:27] <Kilos> how come you always have prob making sticks
[07:27] <kbmonkey> Its the pc I tell you
[07:28] <Kilos> must be
[07:28] <kbmonkey> I only have probs with ubuntu. :(
[07:28] <Kilos> when in doubt use a hammer, the larger the doubt the larger the hammer
[07:28] <kbmonkey> Cursed
[07:28] <kbmonkey> Ha ha thx Kilos :)
[07:29] <Kilos> hehe
[07:29] <Kilos> i actually did battle to install ubuntu from a stick once onto a tinycorelinux drive
[07:29] <kbmonkey> 'df' says 950MB written so it's near done yey
[07:30] <Kilos> oh good
[07:30] <Kilos> had to fdisk it then all went fine
[07:30] <kbmonkey> Maybe I go for a walk. It gets done when I get back
[07:30] <kbmonkey> Ya I like fdisk
[07:31] <kbmonkey> I see they changed fdisk menus. Looks more organized. 
[07:32] <Kilos> i just use fdisk off a win 98 cd
[07:32] <kbmonkey> Need more weekend. Want to do too much
[07:32] <Kilos> then no need to learn new stuffs
[07:32] <Kilos> im really struggling with html
[07:33] <Kilos> its so simple and easy to understand if you can just remember the tag goodies
[07:33] <kbmonkey> What part of html are you learning now?
[07:34] <Kilos> still near the beginning , going over and over to try get it in head
[07:34] <Kilos> actually looks like a lekker language
[07:34] <Kilos> and easy to use
[07:35] <kbmonkey> Ja it is. I want to do more of javascript myself
[07:35] <Kilos> i can at least now remember <html> and <head> and <title> and how to close them
[07:35] <kbmonkey> Do you have a site idea you are trying to make to learn?
[07:36] <Kilos> nope
[07:36] <kbmonkey> Oh what editor do you write in Kilos ?
[07:36] <Kilos> i dont want to make a site i just want to learn how to fix them
[07:36] <Kilos> kate
[07:36] <kbmonkey> sjoe diving in deep. :)
[07:36] <Kilos> hehe
[07:37] <Kilos> i dont have a unity running anywhere anymore
[07:37] <kbmonkey> Any decent editor will close tags for you. I pse geany, and gedit will too. 
[07:37] <kbmonkey> KDE?
[07:38] <Kilos> oh i have xubuntu on another pc i can try that with gedit
[07:38] <Kilos> ya kubuntu
[07:38] <kbmonkey> Okay
[07:38] <Kilos> but the doing the text isnt the prob its remembering thats alltext 
[07:39] <Kilos> dunno where that last text came from
[07:39] <kbmonkey> True
[07:40] <kbmonkey> It is easier if you have a goal or know what you want to fix 
[07:40] <kbmonkey> Otherwise there is too much to learn at once :)
[07:40] <Kilos> i wanted to go fix sites on that other thing
[07:40] <Kilos> clickworker
[07:41] <Kilos> they got 40 000 need fixing
[07:41] <Kilos> but i dont want to start and messup then they block you out
[07:43] <Kilos> mornsup
[07:43] <Kilos> ai!
[07:43] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[07:43] <Kilos> morn tab dont work
[07:45] <kbmonkey> Clicbworker huh? Looks interesting. I don't see any place of job listings
[07:46] <Kilos> you have to do their evaluation thing then they decide what you are qualified to do and offer you stuff
[07:47] <kbmonkey> Have you done the evaluation?
[07:47] <Kilos> ya
[07:48] <Kilos> both i think or 3
[07:48] <Kilos> basic stuff they ask
[07:48] <kbmonkey> It is like elance but I don't think you will need to change website code Kilos :)
[07:49] <kbmonkey> Looks like copy-editing and tagging 
[07:49] <Kilos> i went on then they give you what must be done
[07:49] <Kilos> thats simple enough
[07:49] <Kilos> but remembering what to do isnt simple
[07:50] <kbmonkey> Good good
[07:50] <kbmonkey> Nice to keep busy
[07:50] <Kilos> i went on with ian and he said its all basic if you follow their instructions
[07:51] <Kilos> things like a car tire in a grocery page
[07:51] <kbmonkey> Like a picture, or text?
[07:51] <Kilos> i can see thats in the wrong place but cant remember what they said to do with it
[07:51] <Kilos> pictures
[07:52] <Kilos> proper webpages
[07:52] <kbmonkey> Is there not a job description or requirement to say what needs to be done?
[07:53] <Kilos> yes a full explanation
[07:53] <Kilos> its only the remembering man
[07:53] <Kilos> kop doff
[07:53] <Kilos> fixing links too i think
[07:54] <Kilos> lets say that tire in grocery store
[07:55] <Kilos> i know its wrong just bang to sommer delete it. might need to find where it should be and move it to there
[07:55] <Kilos> by then ive forgotten where i started
[07:56] <Kilos> hehe
[07:56] <kbmonkey> Just keep the job reuuirement open on a second tab and refer to it when you forget. 
[07:56] <kbmonkey> Work smart
[07:57] <Kilos> lol
[07:57] <kbmonkey> It's not about remembering, otherwise I'll never get my work done! My memory like a siv ;)
[07:58] <kbmonkey> I make todo list. Lists of what I did, lists of what to do. Lists of lists!
[07:59] <kbmonkey> Cos I forget
[07:59] <kbmonkey> Usb done!
[08:02] <Kilos> yay that took long
[08:02] <Kilos> lets hope it works
[08:02] <Kilos> man for me its all about the remembering
[08:03] <Kilos> too min ram and corrupt swap partition
[08:11] <kbmonkey> The usb booted this time. I chose all the install options, it is now showing a busy cursor. 
[08:11] <kbmonkey> Not sure if it is working. 
[08:11] <Kilos> yay
[08:11] <Kilos> ya then must be working
[08:11] <kbmonkey> It does not show progress. It is stuck on the user name selection screen
[08:12] <kbmonkey> Mouse moves
[08:12] <Kilos> patience
[08:12] <kbmonkey> :(
[08:12] <Kilos> lol
[08:12] <kbmonkey> I want more weekend lol
[08:12] <kbmonkey> Impatient
[08:12] <Kilos> it seems to be doing nothing but it is working in the background
[08:13] <Kilos> would be better if it showed what its doing all the time
[08:13] <kbmonkey> I have not even a chance to look what neels has added to the revaluation wiki! Oh damn
[08:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:14] <kbmonkey> Maybe I go for a walk. Clear my head. Let Ubuntu work :)
[08:14] <kbmonkey> A watched pot never boils
[08:17] <kbmonkey> I have FreeBSD too I want to install. To learn something new. 
[08:17] <Kilos> yip i just had a breakfast banana sandwitch
[08:17] <Kilos> sandwich
[08:17] <kbmonkey> nice
[08:17] <Kilos> ya
[08:18] <kbmonkey> I just had banana too!
[08:18] <Kilos> lol
[08:18] <kbmonkey> And apple and mandarin
[08:18] <Kilos> good
[08:18] <Kilos> i dont eat apples
[08:18] <kbmonkey> I eat every day
[08:18] <kbmonkey> Fruits
[08:18] <Kilos> they what got this world into the state its in
[08:19] <kbmonkey> Lol Kilos 
[08:19] <Kilos> hehe actually they just too hard to chew without teeth
[08:19] <kbmonkey> Baked apples are very good
[08:19] <Kilos> but sis makes a kinda coleslaw with cabbage and apple and stuff in
[08:20] <Kilos> so thats good i can just swallow
[08:20] <Kilos> and carrots 
[08:20] <Kilos> all graded so no serious chewing needed
[08:20] <kbmonkey> Now I want apple pie!
[08:21] <Kilos> lol
[08:23] <Kilos> haha my ex says vince is sweet
[08:23] <Kilos> such a gentleman
[08:24] <kbmonkey> He is a genuine!
[08:27] <Kilos> haha she says your little friend so i asked how big is he then she said oh he is big
[08:27] <Kilos> old peeps see things differently
[08:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:54] <kbmonkey> Kilos: something rong. Its still waiting at the same place :(
[08:55] <kbmonkey> Sigh
[08:55] <Kilos> patience
[08:55] <Kilos> it took so long to make the stick that most likely the install will take ages too
[08:56] <Kilos> something not happy on that drive
[08:56] <kbmonkey> I'm losing hope
[08:56] <Kilos> or maybe you have to hit an install button or just enter
[08:57] <kbmonkey> I did hit the install button. It greyed out and it's waiting since
[08:57] <Kilos> what is on that drive
[08:57] <Kilos> well if its greayed then its working
[08:58] <Kilos>  what is on that drive
[08:58] <Kilos> ???
[08:59] <kbmonkey> Partitions
[08:59] <kbmonkey> Why?
[08:59] <Kilos> something in there isnt happy
[08:59] <kbmonkey> No errors in sys logs
[08:59] <kbmonkey> It's not windows
[09:00] <Kilos> an install that takes 30mins is a battling install
[09:00] <kbmonkey> Must reboot pc out the first floor window
[09:00] <Kilos> no man fix it
[09:00] <Kilos> what is on the other partitions
[09:00] <kbmonkey> Ubuntu 10.04
[09:01] <kbmonkey> Well its formatted oler now
[09:01] <Kilos> did it give the option to install alongside?
[09:01] <kbmonkey> Over
[09:01] <kbmonkey> Yes. I chose not to
[09:01] <Kilos> what else is on there
[09:01] <kbmonkey> format the old
[09:02] <kbmonkey> My debian
[09:02] <Kilos> is there anything on that drive you want to keep
[09:02] <kbmonkey> Yes. Its all my work on there
[09:02] <Kilos> oi
[09:02] <kbmonkey> Also Mint
[09:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:03] <kbmonkey> Partitioned for 3 OS's
[09:03] <Kilos> \ok then rstart it and choose the run live option
[09:03] <kbmonkey> That is little 
[09:03] <kbmonkey> Okay oom. Good call !
[09:04] <Kilos> i had a kde that battled with installing till i ran it  live then installed from there
[09:04] <kbmonkey> Work is backed up. I just don't want to destroy the parts
[09:04] <kbmonkey> It's this unetbootin I tell ya
[09:05] <kbmonkey> Running disc checker now
[09:05] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[09:06] <Kilos> disk checker checks the stick
[09:06] <kbmonkey> I know
[09:06] <kbmonkey> No errrors found
[09:06] <Kilos> ya inetbootin is good
[09:06] <Vince-0> Haai 
[09:06] <Kilos> run it live and see
[09:07] <Vince-0> kbmonkey, Kilos 
[09:07] <Vince-0> wat se julle
[09:07] <kbmonkey> Hi Vince-0 
[09:07] <Kilos> die apie sukkel man
[09:07] <kbmonkey> Need new hardware 
[09:08] <kbmonkey> Live works
[09:09] <Kilos> ok in live on the desktop is an icon to install
[09:09] <Kilos> try that
[09:11] <Kilos> also you need to see how many partitions you made primary
[09:11] <Kilos> only 4 allowed
[09:12] <Kilos> so you have mint and 10.04 there already
[09:12] <Kilos> only root parts should be in primary if you using so many systems
[09:13] <Kilos> everything else in logical i think its called
[09:13] <kbmonkey> Of course. 3 primary and one extended with 5 sub partitions. This is nothing new, I've had this layout for a year at least. 
[09:14] <kbmonkey> I think my usb ports are shot
[09:14] <kbmonkey> It is stuck at the same place 
[09:16] <kbmonkey> I try again another day. Will burn a DVD instead
[09:19] <Kilos> sorry power died
[09:19] <Kilos> what i missed
[09:22] <kbmonkey> I'll get a dvd tomorrow and try that way Kilos :)
[09:22] <Kilos> it isnt unetbootin
[09:22] <Kilos> how many primary partitions are used with the other systems
[09:37] <gremble> o/
[09:37] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[09:38] <gremble> Anything interesting happening?
[09:39] <Kilos> only my monkey battling
[09:39] <gremble> What what is your monkey battling?
[09:39] <Kilos> he cant get 14.10 to install from stick
[09:40] <Kilos> kbmonkey, !!
[09:41] <Kilos> coooowwweeeeee
[09:41] <Kilos> bananas in the ears again
[09:41] <gremble> This girl is about to get killed by a creepy clown
[09:41] <gremble> D:
[09:42] <Kilos> what are you watching
[09:42] <gremble> Supernatural
[09:42] <Kilos> ah
[09:42] <gremble> I usually don't watch series
[09:42] <gremble> but I can't get myself to do anything else
[09:42] <gremble> So now I am sitting here in self-loathing and watching this
[09:43] <kbmonkey> Happy horror halloween
[09:43] <Kilos> hehe
[09:43] <Kilos> monkey
[09:43] <Kilos> talk to me dammit
[09:43] <kbmonkey> About what Kilos 
[09:43] <Kilos> about this install man
[09:44] <kbmonkey> I wana make green bean curry
[09:44] <Kilos> you havent answered the last 4 questions
[09:44] <Kilos> mail me some too
[09:44] <kbmonkey> Ill try with a dvd in the week
[09:44] <Kilos> you say you have backed up everything
[09:45] <Kilos> then boot from stick and go install then choose  erase and use entire disk
[09:45] <kbmonkey> gremble: I watched the walking dead on halloween. It is great
[09:45] <Kilos> stick must work
[09:46] <Kilos> your prob isnt with the install media but with everything on the drive
[09:46] <Kilos> dvd will be even slower
[09:46] <kbmonkey> No Kilos.  I am not destroying my other partitions. All my development tools are on there and I don't have the bandwidth or inclination to set those up again. 
[09:46] <Kilos> sjoe. no spare drive?
[09:47] <kbmonkey> No. I gave spares to william
[09:47] <kbmonkey> For his classes
[09:52] <Kilos> oi
[09:52] <Kilos> i think you gonna find you have used up your 4 primary partitions
[09:53] <Kilos> have you got a spare 8g stick
[09:53] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: what hdd is it for?
[09:53] <Kilos> or 16g
[09:53] <Vince-0> you should pull in here and whack 'em on my 10meg fibre at work
[09:59] <kbmonkey> It's my pc's hdd Vince-0. 
[10:00] <kbmonkey> ubuntu installer just hangs, is all. My current installs work good. 
[10:00] <kbmonkey> I suspect faulty usb ports
[10:00] <Vince-0> aganee
[10:01] <kbmonkey> nope Kilos my partitions are all good. 
[10:01] <Kilos> ok
[10:02] <kbmonkey> I give up today till I get the dvd tomorrow :)
[10:02] <Kilos> w2ell lets see what a dvd does
[10:02] <kbmonkey> Run out of time
[10:02] <kbmonkey> Need to start cooking!
[10:02] <Kilos> time always too min
[10:02] <gremble> You can also try dd if unetbootin doesn't work
[10:03] <gremble> I've completely switched over to using dd for my linux booting needs
[10:03] <kbmonkey> Eish ubuntu maak my tiete lam
[10:03] <Kilos> lol
[10:03] <Vince-0> use fedora!
[10:04] <kbmonkey> gremble: I love dd. It works every time except with ubuntu. It's a halloween curse I tell ya :)
[10:04] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:04] <kbmonkey> Vince-0: I got FreeBSD I want to give a go with actually
[10:04] <gremble> It doesn't work with ubuntu?
[10:04] <Vince-0> sjoe that's brave
[10:04] <gremble> That is fantastic
[10:04] <gremble> FreeBSD is very nice
[10:05] <gremble> It is just an effort to get desktop things to set up
[10:05] <gremble> Also can't use unetbootin/dd for *BDS as it does not have the syslinux hack to let it boot up
[10:07] <Kilos> standby ThatGraemeGuy ?
[10:07] <kbmonkey> I'r keen to get more hands-on with the install process. The point is to learn more about it :)
[10:07] <gremble> FreeBSD install process is automated. Try Gentoo/Arch if you want to play with the install process
[10:10] <gremble> Not that I am trying to disuade you from using FreeBSD. TI is awesome
[10:10] <gremble> It even
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, minetest :)
[11:09] <charl> good afternoon
[11:19] <Kilos> hi charl 
[11:19] <Kilos> wb not_found 
[11:19] <Kilos> long time since you been lost
[11:22] <not_found> nope, it is standard for me
[11:27] <Kilos> hehe
[11:53] <charl> hi Kilos 
[11:53] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:53]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[11:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[11:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[11:57] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[11:57] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[12:04] <gremble> I have to do two cartoons for the newspaper but I have no inspiration to draw
[12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> ooh load shedding, thanks eskom
[12:08] <gremble> Well yes. They have to cut costs in infrastructure to afford the directors' salaries
[12:09] <gremble> They are doing a bang-up job and therefore have to get paid a lot
[12:22] <Kilos> hehe
[14:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:20] <gremble> I tea keeps being finished whenever I look at my mug
[14:20] <gremble> I think someone is stealing it
[14:20] <Kilos> lol
[14:21] <Kilos> ive started making tea in a 1 litre stork container then topping up my beer mug as needed
[14:21] <Kilos> also saves beer mugs from cracking
[14:21] <gremble> You are a genius
[14:22] <Kilos> na just lazy, lazy peeps always look for the easy way out
[14:23] <gremble> People that are both lazy and creative are the best kinds of people
[14:24] <Kilos> haha
[14:25] <Kilos> being a mechanic you learn to make things that work. often you cant get some tool into a certain space or angle so you make your own
[14:27] <gremble> I know about that part
[14:27] <gremble> My bakkie uses a really weird size nut for the oil sump
[14:27] <gremble> We had to go borrow a special socket
[14:27] <Kilos> ive made things over the years and now find one can buy similar things
[14:27] <gremble> Afterward we just welded a proper nut onto the sump nut. Now it works fine 
[14:27] <gremble> xD
[14:28] <Kilos> ask the pro
[14:29] <Kilos> yip make things work the way you want them
[14:29] <bushtech> why do "people" always feel the sump plug needs to be tightened till your eyes pop out?
[14:29] <bushtech> Grrrrrrrrrr
[14:29] <Kilos> bringing the same attitude to computers gave many gray hairs though
[14:29] <Kilos> ya thats stupid hey
[14:30] <Kilos> best is to put pressure on the spanner then whack the plug with a hammer
[14:31] <bushtech> slight deformation of threads?
[14:31] <Kilos> those hydraulic impact wrenches often work
[14:31] <Kilos> no man not with a 4 lb hammer
[14:31] <Kilos> you just need the shock effect
[14:32] <gremble> I just want to know why it comes in a weird American size
[14:33] <Kilos> the whole idea is to make it so you take the vehicle in and pay
[14:34] <gremble> Screw them
[14:34] <Kilos> like with all modern cars you need computer diagnostic equipment to fault find for you
[14:34] <gremble> haha
[14:34] <gremble> No, I have a simple Bantam Bakkie
[14:34] <Kilos> good
[14:34] <gremble> It barely has powersteering
[14:34] <bushtech> buying the right socket size a whole lot cheaper than a service
[14:35] <Kilos> i have a large set of metrinch tools
[14:35] <Kilos> they fir everything
[14:35] <Kilos> fit
[14:35] <gremble> We couldn't find one. My grandfather knows a mechanic though, so we got one there
[14:35] <Kilos> but cost an arm and half a leg
[14:35] <Kilos> you in pta hey?
[14:36] <gremble> Ya
[14:36] <Kilos> small parts centre and some others i forget
[14:36] <Kilos> small tool centre
[14:37] <Kilos> just get the single sockets you need , ratchets and power bars are standard
[14:38] <gremble> I will keep that in mind. 
[14:38] <gremble> Thanks
[14:38] <Kilos> there is actually another manufacturer that has followed the metrinch pattern for sockets
[14:38] <Kilos> i cant remember who
[14:38] <Kilos> gedore maybe
[14:39] <gremble> I think my father has a gedore set, or my brother has it now
[14:39] <gremble> had*
[14:39] <Kilos> those metrinch sockets are magic. you can file all the corners off a bolt and it still loosens them
[14:40] <Kilos> metrinch doesnt have the many notches it is a 6 sided socket
[14:40] <gremble> I dislike working on cars though haha
[14:40] <Kilos> with rounded grip faces
[14:41] <Kilos> working on your own is fine
[14:41] <gremble> No it is not haha
[14:41] <Kilos> working on other peeps cars is a pain
[14:41] <gremble> I would prefer not having to worry about it
[14:42] <Kilos> "since you fixed my carburettor my back brakes jam all the time" etc etc
[14:42] <Kilos> hate fixing other peeps stuff
[14:42] <Kilos> pcs is different i enjoy that
[14:44] <Kilos> and dont charge anyway so there cant be comebacks
[14:44] <gremble> I hate it when you don't charge and there are comebacks
[14:44] <gremble> As if everything I do comes with a warranty
[14:45] <Kilos> i mainly help my son on the odd occasion fix clients drives or recover data etc
[14:46] <Kilos> rest of the time i play freecell
[14:49] <Kilos> and forget to remember what i must remember to remember
[14:49] <gremble> I have no idea how freecell works
[14:50] <Kilos> its lekker time consuming and mahjong
[14:50] <gremble> Damn it is difficult to draw anime >.>
[14:51] <Kilos> ask my daughter
[14:53] <Kilos> http://kaiverta.deviantart.com/art/Wake-Up-Sleepy-Head-217131144
[14:53] <Kilos> is that anime
[15:25] <charl> doesn't look like it
[15:28] <Kilos> i have no idea what anime is but i know she does it
[15:29] <charl> this is more anime http://kaiverta.deviantart.com/art/hollow-ichigo-478513589
[15:29] <charl> not anime, manga
[15:29] <charl> anime is animated manga
[15:29] <charl> but i'm looking at her stuff now, she's very talented nevertheless !
[15:32] <Kilos> thats how she makes a living, with her art
[17:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:31] <kbmonkey> how is the site fixing-learning going Kilos 
[17:31] <Kilos> i did nothing today sir
[17:32] <Kilos> just loafed
[17:32] <Kilos> hows the bean curry?
[17:33] <kbmonkey> very good
[17:33] <Kilos> email some
[17:33] <kbmonkey> it was too hot for the wire ;)
[17:33] <Kilos> i shoulda been an injun i can live on curry
[17:33] <Kilos> haha
[17:33] <kbmonkey> it says virus detected when I try attach it to email!
[17:34] <Kilos> hehehe
[17:34] <Kilos> change the .exe to .food
[17:34] <kbmonkey> lol
[17:36] <Kilos> load shedding because of a silo that holds coal cracking up
[17:36] <Kilos> at our biggest power station
[17:36] <Kilos> sigh
[17:37] <Kilos> now another investigation committee will be setup i spose
[17:37] <kbmonkey> really?! that sounds pretty darn dangerous
[17:38] <Kilos> they say its due to lack of maintenance and vaardighede
[17:38] <Kilos> i cant think of the english word
[17:39] <Kilos> something like experience
[17:39] <Kilos> watching the news can be quite funny at times
[17:39] <kbmonkey> competance?
[17:39] <Kilos> thats the word ty
[17:39] <kbmonkey> ha ha
[17:39] <Kilos> competence
[17:39] <kbmonkey> add "in" before that
[17:40] <Kilos> Maaz, define competence
[17:40] <Maaz> Kilos: Competence \Com"pe*tence\, Competency \Com"pe*ten*cy\, n. [Cf. F. comp['e]tence, from L. competentia agreement.] 1. The state of being competent; fitness; ability; adequacy; power. [1913 Webster]  The loan demonstrates, in regard to instrumental resources, the competency of this kingdom to the assertion of the common cause.        --Burke. [1913 Webster]  To
[17:40] <Maaz> make them act zealously is not in the competence of law.                               -…
[17:40] <Kilos> ai!
[17:40] <Kilos> incompetency
[17:41] <kbmonkey> this bot is incompetant sometimes
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, define incompetant
[17:41] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about incompetant. Maybe you meant Incompetent or incompetent?
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, define incompetent
[17:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Incompetent \In*com"pe*tent\, a. [L. incompetens: cf. F. incomp['e]tent. See {In-} not, and {Competent}.] [1913 Webster] 1. Not competent; wanting in adequate strength, power, capacity, means, qualifications, or the like; incapable; unable; inadequate; unfit. [1913 Webster]  Incompetent to perform the duties of the place. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster]  2. (Law)
[17:41] <Maaz> Wanting the legal or constitutional qualifications; inadmissible; as, a person professed…
[17:41] <Kilos> ya that
[17:42] <Kilos> and the reason why some cops cant fill in charge sheets is because there isnt enough money for training
[17:43] <kbmonkey> it's a hard job
[17:44] <Kilos> ya looks like
[17:44] <Kilos> and 2 eskom employess caught with 2 stolen transformers worth 650k
[17:58] <kbmonkey> hectic
[18:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:19] <magespawn> good evening
[19:24] <kbmonkey> evening.
[19:25] <kbmonkey> kilos went to bed already
[19:27] <magespawn> hi kbmonkey 
[19:27] <magespawn> must have been a long weekend for the oom
[19:29] <kbmonkey> he mentioned power cycling 
[19:29] <kbmonkey> load shedding, that's it
[19:29] <kbmonkey> apparently there is a crack in one of the coal silo's
[19:37] <magespawn> yes, i saw a picture today, apparently the whole thing has collapsed
[19:38] <kbmonkey> oh dear
[21:30] <magespawn> good night all