[04:29] morning all [05:40] hi kbmonkey [05:47] Hi Kilos [05:48] hi charl [06:36] Kilos: https://asciinema.org/a/13520 [06:36] i go see [06:39] kbmonkey, is that the stickbooted [06:41] or unetbootin wanting to make the stick still [06:41] kbmonkey, [06:43] Yep, unetboot [06:44] Cool recording terminal commands like that. [06:50] lol [07:11] i like unetbootin have had one not work yet [07:21] It is still going kilos [07:22] all I want to do is install ubuntu [07:23] normally it seems to hang for a while [07:24] is it 66% i think then all of a sudden its done [07:25] but should take about 5 mins [07:25] you got something wrong with that stick [07:26] * Kilos mails the monkey a blank dvd [07:27] All sticks do this. Yes at 55% it hits a lage file. Progress only updates per file [07:27] how come you always have prob making sticks [07:27] Its the pc I tell you [07:28] must be [07:28] I only have probs with ubuntu. :( [07:28] when in doubt use a hammer, the larger the doubt the larger the hammer [07:28] Cursed [07:28] Ha ha thx Kilos :) [07:29] hehe [07:29] i actually did battle to install ubuntu from a stick once onto a tinycorelinux drive [07:29] 'df' says 950MB written so it's near done yey [07:30] oh good [07:30] had to fdisk it then all went fine [07:30] Maybe I go for a walk. It gets done when I get back [07:30] Ya I like fdisk [07:31] I see they changed fdisk menus. Looks more organized. [07:32] i just use fdisk off a win 98 cd [07:32] Need more weekend. Want to do too much [07:32] then no need to learn new stuffs [07:32] im really struggling with html [07:33] its so simple and easy to understand if you can just remember the tag goodies [07:33] What part of html are you learning now? [07:34] still near the beginning , going over and over to try get it in head [07:34] actually looks like a lekker language [07:34] and easy to use [07:35] Ja it is. I want to do more of javascript myself [07:35] i can at least now remember and and and how to close them [07:35] <kbmonkey> Do you have a site idea you are trying to make to learn? [07:36] <Kilos> nope [07:36] <kbmonkey> Oh what editor do you write in Kilos ? [07:36] <Kilos> i dont want to make a site i just want to learn how to fix them [07:36] <Kilos> kate [07:36] <kbmonkey> sjoe diving in deep. :) [07:36] <Kilos> hehe [07:37] <Kilos> i dont have a unity running anywhere anymore [07:37] <kbmonkey> Any decent editor will close tags for you. I pse geany, and gedit will too. [07:37] <kbmonkey> KDE? [07:38] <Kilos> oh i have xubuntu on another pc i can try that with gedit [07:38] <Kilos> ya kubuntu [07:38] <kbmonkey> Okay [07:38] <Kilos> but the doing the text isnt the prob its remembering thats alltext [07:39] <Kilos> dunno where that last text came from [07:39] <kbmonkey> True [07:40] <kbmonkey> It is easier if you have a goal or know what you want to fix [07:40] <kbmonkey> Otherwise there is too much to learn at once :) [07:40] <Kilos> i wanted to go fix sites on that other thing [07:40] <Kilos> clickworker [07:41] <Kilos> they got 40 000 need fixing [07:41] <Kilos> but i dont want to start and messup then they block you out [07:43] <Kilos> mornsup [07:43] <Kilos> ai! [07:43] <Kilos> morning superfly [07:43] <Kilos> morn tab dont work [07:45] <kbmonkey> Clicbworker huh? Looks interesting. I don't see any place of job listings [07:46] <Kilos> you have to do their evaluation thing then they decide what you are qualified to do and offer you stuff [07:47] <kbmonkey> Have you done the evaluation? [07:47] <Kilos> ya [07:48] <Kilos> both i think or 3 [07:48] <Kilos> basic stuff they ask [07:48] <kbmonkey> It is like elance but I don't think you will need to change website code Kilos :) [07:49] <kbmonkey> Looks like copy-editing and tagging [07:49] <Kilos> i went on then they give you what must be done [07:49] <Kilos> thats simple enough [07:49] <Kilos> but remembering what to do isnt simple [07:50] <kbmonkey> Good good [07:50] <kbmonkey> Nice to keep busy [07:50] <Kilos> i went on with ian and he said its all basic if you follow their instructions [07:51] <Kilos> things like a car tire in a grocery page [07:51] <kbmonkey> Like a picture, or text? [07:51] <Kilos> i can see thats in the wrong place but cant remember what they said to do with it [07:51] <Kilos> pictures [07:52] <Kilos> proper webpages [07:52] <kbmonkey> Is there not a job description or requirement to say what needs to be done? [07:53] <Kilos> yes a full explanation [07:53] <Kilos> its only the remembering man [07:53] <Kilos> kop doff [07:53] <Kilos> fixing links too i think [07:54] <Kilos> lets say that tire in grocery store [07:55] <Kilos> i know its wrong just bang to sommer delete it. might need to find where it should be and move it to there [07:55] <Kilos> by then ive forgotten where i started [07:56] <Kilos> hehe [07:56] <kbmonkey> Just keep the job reuuirement open on a second tab and refer to it when you forget. [07:56] <kbmonkey> Work smart [07:57] <Kilos> lol [07:57] <kbmonkey> It's not about remembering, otherwise I'll never get my work done! My memory like a siv ;) [07:58] <kbmonkey> I make todo list. Lists of what I did, lists of what to do. Lists of lists! [07:59] <kbmonkey> Cos I forget [07:59] <kbmonkey> Usb done! [08:02] <Kilos> yay that took long [08:02] <Kilos> lets hope it works [08:02] <Kilos> man for me its all about the remembering [08:03] <Kilos> too min ram and corrupt swap partition [08:11] <kbmonkey> The usb booted this time. I chose all the install options, it is now showing a busy cursor. [08:11] <kbmonkey> Not sure if it is working. [08:11] <Kilos> yay [08:11] <Kilos> ya then must be working [08:11] <kbmonkey> It does not show progress. It is stuck on the user name selection screen [08:12] <kbmonkey> Mouse moves [08:12] <Kilos> patience [08:12] <kbmonkey> :( [08:12] <Kilos> lol [08:12] <kbmonkey> I want more weekend lol [08:12] <kbmonkey> Impatient [08:12] <Kilos> it seems to be doing nothing but it is working in the background [08:13] <Kilos> would be better if it showed what its doing all the time [08:13] <kbmonkey> I have not even a chance to look what neels has added to the revaluation wiki! Oh damn [08:13] <Kilos> sjoe [08:14] <kbmonkey> Maybe I go for a walk. Clear my head. Let Ubuntu work :) [08:14] <kbmonkey> A watched pot never boils [08:17] <kbmonkey> I have FreeBSD too I want to install. To learn something new. [08:17] <Kilos> yip i just had a breakfast banana sandwitch [08:17] <Kilos> sandwich [08:17] <kbmonkey> nice [08:17] <Kilos> ya [08:18] <kbmonkey> I just had banana too! [08:18] <Kilos> lol [08:18] <kbmonkey> And apple and mandarin [08:18] <Kilos> good [08:18] <Kilos> i dont eat apples [08:18] <kbmonkey> I eat every day [08:18] <kbmonkey> Fruits [08:18] <Kilos> they what got this world into the state its in [08:19] <kbmonkey> Lol Kilos [08:19] <Kilos> hehe actually they just too hard to chew without teeth [08:19] <kbmonkey> Baked apples are very good [08:19] <Kilos> but sis makes a kinda coleslaw with cabbage and apple and stuff in [08:20] <Kilos> so thats good i can just swallow [08:20] <Kilos> and carrots [08:20] <Kilos> all graded so no serious chewing needed [08:20] <kbmonkey> Now I want apple pie! [08:21] <Kilos> lol [08:23] <Kilos> haha my ex says vince is sweet [08:23] <Kilos> such a gentleman [08:24] <kbmonkey> He is a genuine! [08:27] <Kilos> haha she says your little friend so i asked how big is he then she said oh he is big [08:27] <Kilos> old peeps see things differently [08:51] <Kilos> hmm... [08:54] <kbmonkey> Kilos: something rong. Its still waiting at the same place :( [08:55] <kbmonkey> Sigh [08:55] <Kilos> patience [08:55] <Kilos> it took so long to make the stick that most likely the install will take ages too [08:56] <Kilos> something not happy on that drive [08:56] <kbmonkey> I'm losing hope [08:56] <Kilos> or maybe you have to hit an install button or just enter [08:57] <kbmonkey> I did hit the install button. It greyed out and it's waiting since [08:57] <Kilos> what is on that drive [08:57] <Kilos> well if its greayed then its working [08:58] <Kilos> what is on that drive [08:58] <Kilos> ??? [08:59] <kbmonkey> Partitions [08:59] <kbmonkey> Why? [08:59] <Kilos> something in there isnt happy [08:59] <kbmonkey> No errors in sys logs [08:59] <kbmonkey> It's not windows [09:00] <Kilos> an install that takes 30mins is a battling install [09:00] <kbmonkey> Must reboot pc out the first floor window [09:00] <Kilos> no man fix it [09:00] <Kilos> what is on the other partitions [09:00] <kbmonkey> Ubuntu 10.04 [09:01] <kbmonkey> Well its formatted oler now [09:01] <Kilos> did it give the option to install alongside? [09:01] <kbmonkey> Over [09:01] <kbmonkey> Yes. I chose not to [09:01] <Kilos> what else is on there [09:01] <kbmonkey> format the old [09:02] <kbmonkey> My debian [09:02] <Kilos> is there anything on that drive you want to keep [09:02] <kbmonkey> Yes. Its all my work on there [09:02] <Kilos> oi [09:02] <kbmonkey> Also Mint [09:03] <Kilos> sjoe [09:03] <kbmonkey> Partitioned for 3 OS's [09:03] <Kilos> \ok then rstart it and choose the run live option [09:03] <kbmonkey> That is little [09:03] <kbmonkey> Okay oom. Good call ! [09:04] <Kilos> i had a kde that battled with installing till i ran it live then installed from there [09:04] <kbmonkey> Work is backed up. I just don't want to destroy the parts [09:04] <kbmonkey> It's this unetbootin I tell ya [09:05] <kbmonkey> Running disc checker now [09:05] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 [09:06] <Kilos> disk checker checks the stick [09:06] <kbmonkey> I know [09:06] <kbmonkey> No errrors found [09:06] <Kilos> ya inetbootin is good [09:06] <Vince-0> Haai [09:06] <Kilos> run it live and see [09:07] <Vince-0> kbmonkey, Kilos [09:07] <Vince-0> wat se julle [09:07] <kbmonkey> Hi Vince-0 [09:07] <Kilos> die apie sukkel man [09:07] <kbmonkey> Need new hardware [09:08] <kbmonkey> Live works [09:09] <Kilos> ok in live on the desktop is an icon to install [09:09] <Kilos> try that [09:11] <Kilos> also you need to see how many partitions you made primary [09:11] <Kilos> only 4 allowed [09:12] <Kilos> so you have mint and 10.04 there already [09:12] <Kilos> only root parts should be in primary if you using so many systems [09:13] <Kilos> everything else in logical i think its called [09:13] <kbmonkey> Of course. 3 primary and one extended with 5 sub partitions. This is nothing new, I've had this layout for a year at least. [09:14] <kbmonkey> I think my usb ports are shot [09:14] <kbmonkey> It is stuck at the same place [09:16] <kbmonkey> I try again another day. Will burn a DVD instead [09:19] <Kilos> sorry power died [09:19] <Kilos> what i missed [09:22] <kbmonkey> I'll get a dvd tomorrow and try that way Kilos :) [09:22] <Kilos> it isnt unetbootin [09:22] <Kilos> how many primary partitions are used with the other systems [09:37] <gremble> o/ [09:37] <Kilos> hi gremble [09:38] <gremble> Anything interesting happening? [09:39] <Kilos> only my monkey battling [09:39] <gremble> What what is your monkey battling? [09:39] <Kilos> he cant get 14.10 to install from stick [09:40] <Kilos> kbmonkey, !! [09:41] <Kilos> coooowwweeeeee [09:41] <Kilos> bananas in the ears again [09:41] <gremble> This girl is about to get killed by a creepy clown [09:41] <gremble> D: [09:42] <Kilos> what are you watching [09:42] <gremble> Supernatural [09:42] <Kilos> ah [09:42] <gremble> I usually don't watch series [09:42] <gremble> but I can't get myself to do anything else [09:42] <gremble> So now I am sitting here in self-loathing and watching this [09:43] <kbmonkey> Happy horror halloween [09:43] <Kilos> hehe [09:43] <Kilos> monkey [09:43] <Kilos> talk to me dammit [09:43] <kbmonkey> About what Kilos [09:43] <Kilos> about this install man [09:44] <kbmonkey> I wana make green bean curry [09:44] <Kilos> you havent answered the last 4 questions [09:44] <Kilos> mail me some too [09:44] <kbmonkey> Ill try with a dvd in the week [09:44] <Kilos> you say you have backed up everything [09:45] <Kilos> then boot from stick and go install then choose erase and use entire disk [09:45] <kbmonkey> gremble: I watched the walking dead on halloween. It is great [09:45] <Kilos> stick must work [09:46] <Kilos> your prob isnt with the install media but with everything on the drive [09:46] <Kilos> dvd will be even slower [09:46] <kbmonkey> No Kilos. I am not destroying my other partitions. All my development tools are on there and I don't have the bandwidth or inclination to set those up again. [09:46] <Kilos> sjoe. no spare drive? [09:47] <kbmonkey> No. I gave spares to william [09:47] <kbmonkey> For his classes [09:52] <Kilos> oi [09:52] <Kilos> i think you gonna find you have used up your 4 primary partitions [09:53] <Kilos> have you got a spare 8g stick [09:53] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: what hdd is it for? [09:53] <Kilos> or 16g [09:53] <Vince-0> you should pull in here and whack 'em on my 10meg fibre at work [09:59] <kbmonkey> It's my pc's hdd Vince-0. [10:00] <kbmonkey> ubuntu installer just hangs, is all. My current installs work good. [10:00] <kbmonkey> I suspect faulty usb ports [10:00] <Vince-0> aganee [10:01] <kbmonkey> nope Kilos my partitions are all good. [10:01] <Kilos> ok [10:02] <kbmonkey> I give up today till I get the dvd tomorrow :) [10:02] <Kilos> w2ell lets see what a dvd does [10:02] <kbmonkey> Run out of time [10:02] <kbmonkey> Need to start cooking! [10:02] <Kilos> time always too min [10:02] <gremble> You can also try dd if unetbootin doesn't work [10:03] <gremble> I've completely switched over to using dd for my linux booting needs [10:03] <kbmonkey> Eish ubuntu maak my tiete lam [10:03] <Kilos> lol [10:03] <Vince-0> use fedora! [10:04] <kbmonkey> gremble: I love dd. It works every time except with ubuntu. It's a halloween curse I tell ya :) [10:04] <Kilos> hahaha [10:04] <kbmonkey> Vince-0: I got FreeBSD I want to give a go with actually [10:04] <gremble> It doesn't work with ubuntu? [10:04] <Vince-0> sjoe that's brave [10:04] <gremble> That is fantastic [10:04] <gremble> FreeBSD is very nice [10:05] <gremble> It is just an effort to get desktop things to set up [10:05] <gremble> Also can't use unetbootin/dd for *BDS as it does not have the syslinux hack to let it boot up [10:07] <Kilos> standby ThatGraemeGuy ? [10:07] <kbmonkey> I'r keen to get more hands-on with the install process. The point is to learn more about it :) [10:07] <gremble> FreeBSD install process is automated. Try Gentoo/Arch if you want to play with the install process [10:10] <gremble> Not that I am trying to disuade you from using FreeBSD. TI is awesome [10:10] <gremble> It even [11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, minetest :) [11:09] <charl> good afternoon [11:19] <Kilos> hi charl [11:19] <Kilos> wb not_found [11:19] <Kilos> long time since you been lost [11:22] <not_found> nope, it is standard for me [11:27] <Kilos> hehe [11:53] <charl> hi Kilos [11:53] <charl> Maaz: coffee on [11:53] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:53] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please [11:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty [11:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [11:57] <Kilos> Maaz, danke [11:57] <Maaz> Bitteschön [12:04] <gremble> I have to do two cartoons for the newspaper but I have no inspiration to draw [12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> ooh load shedding, thanks eskom [12:08] <gremble> Well yes. They have to cut costs in infrastructure to afford the directors' salaries [12:09] <gremble> They are doing a bang-up job and therefore have to get paid a lot [12:22] <Kilos> hehe [14:17] <Kilos> hmm... [14:20] <gremble> I tea keeps being finished whenever I look at my mug [14:20] <gremble> I think someone is stealing it [14:20] <Kilos> lol [14:21] <Kilos> ive started making tea in a 1 litre stork container then topping up my beer mug as needed [14:21] <Kilos> also saves beer mugs from cracking [14:21] <gremble> You are a genius [14:22] <Kilos> na just lazy, lazy peeps always look for the easy way out [14:23] <gremble> People that are both lazy and creative are the best kinds of people [14:24] <Kilos> haha [14:25] <Kilos> being a mechanic you learn to make things that work. often you cant get some tool into a certain space or angle so you make your own [14:27] <gremble> I know about that part [14:27] <gremble> My bakkie uses a really weird size nut for the oil sump [14:27] <gremble> We had to go borrow a special socket [14:27] <Kilos> ive made things over the years and now find one can buy similar things [14:27] <gremble> Afterward we just welded a proper nut onto the sump nut. Now it works fine [14:27] <gremble> xD [14:28] <Kilos> ask the pro [14:29] <Kilos> yip make things work the way you want them [14:29] <bushtech> why do "people" always feel the sump plug needs to be tightened till your eyes pop out? [14:29] <bushtech> Grrrrrrrrrr [14:29] <Kilos> bringing the same attitude to computers gave many gray hairs though [14:29] <Kilos> ya thats stupid hey [14:30] <Kilos> best is to put pressure on the spanner then whack the plug with a hammer [14:31] <bushtech> slight deformation of threads? [14:31] <Kilos> those hydraulic impact wrenches often work [14:31] <Kilos> no man not with a 4 lb hammer [14:31] <Kilos> you just need the shock effect [14:32] <gremble> I just want to know why it comes in a weird American size [14:33] <Kilos> the whole idea is to make it so you take the vehicle in and pay [14:34] <gremble> Screw them [14:34] <Kilos> like with all modern cars you need computer diagnostic equipment to fault find for you [14:34] <gremble> haha [14:34] <gremble> No, I have a simple Bantam Bakkie [14:34] <Kilos> good [14:34] <gremble> It barely has powersteering [14:34] <bushtech> buying the right socket size a whole lot cheaper than a service [14:35] <Kilos> i have a large set of metrinch tools [14:35] <Kilos> they fir everything [14:35] <Kilos> fit [14:35] <gremble> We couldn't find one. My grandfather knows a mechanic though, so we got one there [14:35] <Kilos> but cost an arm and half a leg [14:35] <Kilos> you in pta hey? [14:36] <gremble> Ya [14:36] <Kilos> small parts centre and some others i forget [14:36] <Kilos> small tool centre [14:37] <Kilos> just get the single sockets you need , ratchets and power bars are standard [14:38] <gremble> I will keep that in mind. [14:38] <gremble> Thanks [14:38] <Kilos> there is actually another manufacturer that has followed the metrinch pattern for sockets [14:38] <Kilos> i cant remember who [14:38] <Kilos> gedore maybe [14:39] <gremble> I think my father has a gedore set, or my brother has it now [14:39] <gremble> had* [14:39] <Kilos> those metrinch sockets are magic. you can file all the corners off a bolt and it still loosens them [14:40] <Kilos> metrinch doesnt have the many notches it is a 6 sided socket [14:40] <gremble> I dislike working on cars though haha [14:40] <Kilos> with rounded grip faces [14:41] <Kilos> working on your own is fine [14:41] <gremble> No it is not haha [14:41] <Kilos> working on other peeps cars is a pain [14:41] <gremble> I would prefer not having to worry about it [14:42] <Kilos> "since you fixed my carburettor my back brakes jam all the time" etc etc [14:42] <Kilos> hate fixing other peeps stuff [14:42] <Kilos> pcs is different i enjoy that [14:44] <Kilos> and dont charge anyway so there cant be comebacks [14:44] <gremble> I hate it when you don't charge and there are comebacks [14:44] <gremble> As if everything I do comes with a warranty [14:45] <Kilos> i mainly help my son on the odd occasion fix clients drives or recover data etc [14:46] <Kilos> rest of the time i play freecell [14:49] <Kilos> and forget to remember what i must remember to remember [14:49] <gremble> I have no idea how freecell works [14:50] <Kilos> its lekker time consuming and mahjong [14:50] <gremble> Damn it is difficult to draw anime >.> [14:51] <Kilos> ask my daughter [14:53] <Kilos> http://kaiverta.deviantart.com/art/Wake-Up-Sleepy-Head-217131144 [14:53] <Kilos> is that anime [15:25] <charl> doesn't look like it [15:28] <Kilos> i have no idea what anime is but i know she does it [15:29] <charl> this is more anime http://kaiverta.deviantart.com/art/hollow-ichigo-478513589 [15:29] <charl> not anime, manga [15:29] <charl> anime is animated manga [15:29] <charl> but i'm looking at her stuff now, she's very talented nevertheless ! [15:32] <Kilos> thats how she makes a living, with her art [17:27] <Kilos> hmm... [17:31] <kbmonkey> how is the site fixing-learning going Kilos [17:31] <Kilos> i did nothing today sir [17:32] <Kilos> just loafed [17:32] <Kilos> hows the bean curry? [17:33] <kbmonkey> very good [17:33] <Kilos> email some [17:33] <kbmonkey> it was too hot for the wire ;) [17:33] <Kilos> i shoulda been an injun i can live on curry [17:33] <Kilos> haha [17:33] <kbmonkey> it says virus detected when I try attach it to email! [17:34] <Kilos> hehehe [17:34] <Kilos> change the .exe to .food [17:34] <kbmonkey> lol [17:36] <Kilos> load shedding because of a silo that holds coal cracking up [17:36] <Kilos> at our biggest power station [17:36] <Kilos> sigh [17:37] <Kilos> now another investigation committee will be setup i spose [17:37] <kbmonkey> really?! that sounds pretty darn dangerous [17:38] <Kilos> they say its due to lack of maintenance and vaardighede [17:38] <Kilos> i cant think of the english word [17:39] <Kilos> something like experience [17:39] <Kilos> watching the news can be quite funny at times [17:39] <kbmonkey> competance? [17:39] <Kilos> thats the word ty [17:39] <kbmonkey> ha ha [17:39] <Kilos> competence [17:39] <kbmonkey> add "in" before that [17:40] <Kilos> Maaz, define competence [17:40] <Maaz> Kilos: Competence \Com"pe*tence\, Competency \Com"pe*ten*cy\, n. [Cf. F. comp['e]tence, from L. competentia agreement.] 1. The state of being competent; fitness; ability; adequacy; power. [1913 Webster] The loan demonstrates, in regard to instrumental resources, the competency of this kingdom to the assertion of the common cause. --Burke. [1913 Webster] To [17:40] <Maaz> make them act zealously is not in the competence of law. -… [17:40] <Kilos> ai! [17:40] <Kilos> incompetency [17:41] <kbmonkey> this bot is incompetant sometimes [17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, define incompetant [17:41] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about incompetant. Maybe you meant Incompetent or incompetent? [17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, define incompetent [17:41] <Maaz> Kilos: Incompetent \In*com"pe*tent\, a. [L. incompetens: cf. F. incomp['e]tent. See {In-} not, and {Competent}.] [1913 Webster] 1. Not competent; wanting in adequate strength, power, capacity, means, qualifications, or the like; incapable; unable; inadequate; unfit. [1913 Webster] Incompetent to perform the duties of the place. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster] 2. (Law) [17:41] <Maaz> Wanting the legal or constitutional qualifications; inadmissible; as, a person professed… [17:41] <Kilos> ya that [17:42] <Kilos> and the reason why some cops cant fill in charge sheets is because there isnt enough money for training [17:43] <kbmonkey> it's a hard job [17:44] <Kilos> ya looks like [17:44] <Kilos> and 2 eskom employess caught with 2 stolen transformers worth 650k [17:58] <kbmonkey> hectic [18:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight [19:19] <magespawn> good evening [19:24] <kbmonkey> evening. [19:25] <kbmonkey> kilos went to bed already [19:27] <magespawn> hi kbmonkey [19:27] <magespawn> must have been a long weekend for the oom [19:29] <kbmonkey> he mentioned power cycling [19:29] <kbmonkey> load shedding, that's it [19:29] <kbmonkey> apparently there is a crack in one of the coal silo's [19:37] <magespawn> yes, i saw a picture today, apparently the whole thing has collapsed [19:38] <kbmonkey> oh dear [21:30] <magespawn> good night all