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[08:36] <elfy> ochosi bluesabre Noskcaj - just updated vivid - upower upgrade has taken out xfpm -xfce4-power-manager : Depends: upower (< 0.99) 
[09:12] <Noskcaj> i'll fix that now, unless bluesabre wants too
[09:12] <Noskcaj> well played pitti + me
[09:18] <Noskcaj> elfy, Are you sure? looks fine in the bzr
[09:21] <elfy> Noskcaj: I am completely sure ;)
[09:22] <elfy> http://pastebin.com/BQhc391s
[09:23] <elfy> mind you it's possible that xfpm is coming from -staging perhaps 
[09:25] <elfy> one way or the other, something isn't right
[09:26] <Noskcaj> i need sleep. i'll try and find a fix tomorrow.
[09:31] <elfy> ok - so it IS the ppa version, purged the ppa - installed xfpm ok 
[09:31] <elfy> bluesabre: ^^
[09:32] <elfy> xfce4-power-manager-data kept back after readding the staging ppa
[10:47] <dshad14> Hi all
[10:59] <knome> hello dshad14 
[11:00] <dshad14> where are you from?
[11:01] <knome> dshad14, if you want to chat, please join #xubuntu-offtopic 
[11:02] <knome> this channel is for development issues/discussion
[11:02] <dshad14> ok, sorry
[11:30] <bluesabre> elfy: thanks, will flip the switch on the ppa
[11:31] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks :)
[11:47] <elfy> bluesabre: what's the chance of getting bug 1382977 fix in 14.10 - seems to be turning up a lot now as an issue
[11:47] <bluesabre> elfy: chances are good.  I've been mostly away for a week which is why I haven't tried to fix it yet
[11:48] <elfy> awesome :)
[11:51] <bluesabre> ok, new xfpm for vivid build should be in the ppa in ~30 or less minutes
[12:02] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: let me know when you are around.
[12:08] <elfy> bluesabre: \o/ upgraded now :)
[12:08] <bluesabre> yay
[12:20] <elfy> knome: am about this afternoon and later this evening if you are 
[12:21] <knome> mm, probably
[12:32] <brainwash_> bluesabre: people keep adding comment to bug 1303736
[12:32] <brainwash_> they use 14.10
[12:34] <knome> brainwash_, bug 1387413
[12:34] <knome> ^ but don't mark that as a duplicate (yet)
[12:35] <knome> notice it has extra debug steps done
[12:35] <brainwash_> maybe it's a good idea to point people to this new report
[12:36] <knome> maybe it's not
[12:36] <knome> because then we'll have 50 comments in that and it's less usable for developers
[12:37] <brainwash_> the question is, do bluesabre and ochosi still care about this annoying bug? :)
[12:38] <brainwash_> it should be fixed, but some people still report that it's not :/
[12:38] <knome> they do care about it
[12:48] <bluesabre> We care, and we've provided a fix that works for most users.
[12:49] <bluesabre> There is definitely a pattern of laptops that do not work. Lots of Thinkpads, and particular Dell Latitudes
[12:50] <bluesabre> We're actively developing light-locker to hopefully kill off the issue for good
[12:51] <bluesabre> But don't really have any additional comments at this time, other than if it doesn't work for you, use xscreensaver
[12:53] <bluesabre> The community is helping to debug. If we could recreate it on our own hardware, we'd have a better lead.
[12:54] <brainwash_> nice to hear
[12:54] <brainwash_> I'm just not sure how to explain the situation to the people who are still affected
[12:55] <brainwash_> they expect an answer
[19:04] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, i'm awake now
[20:03] <Noskcaj> I'll be away for the next week or so, please email me if there's stuff that needs doing
[21:56] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: do you know if uploading to ubuntu branches results in a package upload as well, or does that still need to be done separately?