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Snowhog | For anyone who upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 and found that their network wasn't auto-starting, I solved the issue. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1354924/comments/24 | 01:43 |
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ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1354924 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Networkmanager does not autoconnect to wireless network" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:43 |
Snowhog | In my case, both wireless and wired connections were affected. Now both work just as they are supposed to. | 01:44 |
valorie | wow | 01:50 |
valorie | I would love to see that fixed in upgrades and the ISO | 01:50 |
valorie | because my workaround was to click the "any person can use this network" which I guess exposes the passw | 01:51 |
valorie | since kwallet isn't working right now | 01:51 |
* valorie filed the bug in bko | 01:52 | |
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lovesh | i just updated to kde plasma 5 on kubuntu 14.10 64 bit as described in the official docs. I chose the SDDM login manager But after the upgrade a lot of times my programs freeze for 20-30 seconds and then they are back to normal | 07:00 |
valorie | lovesh: please check and see if lightdm is still installed, and if it is, remove it | 07:00 |
lovesh | this freezing happens every 5-10 mins | 07:01 |
valorie | I still have freezes though, but very randomly | 07:01 |
valorie | none today | 07:01 |
valorie | ::knock on wood:: | 07:01 |
valorie | but some days 5! | 07:01 |
valorie | really annoying | 07:01 |
lovesh | how do i check that? | 07:01 |
valorie | easiest, in the cli: `apt-cache policy lightdm` | 07:02 |
valorie | but of course you can use muon or whatever package manager you prefr | 07:02 |
valorie | prefer | 07:02 |
lovesh | also sometimes udisksd consumes 70% CPU. btw its using 10-15 % cpu all the time | 07:02 |
lovesh | it says installed | 07:03 |
lovesh | let me remove it | 07:04 |
valorie | I would uninstall it, since you are using SDDM | 07:04 |
valorie | I ended up having to uninstall KDM as well! | 07:05 |
lovesh | should i uninstall kdm too? | 07:05 |
valorie | which surprised me, since I've never used that that I recall | 07:05 |
valorie | certainly not on this laptop | 07:05 |
valorie | lovesh: if it is there, sure | 07:06 |
valorie | it can only cause trouble | 07:06 |
lovesh | i have lightdm gobject and lightdm-qt too. i guess i thould remove them too | 07:07 |
valorie | lovesh: I don't see udisks at all in top | 07:07 |
valorie | yes, you don't need them | 07:07 |
lovesh | similarly i have kdm-theme-bespin, kdm-gdmcompat, etc. should i remove them too | 07:08 |
valorie | huh | 07:09 |
valorie | themes you would think would come with the application they are theming | 07:09 |
valorie | odd | 07:09 |
valorie | sure, you certainly don't need them | 07:09 |
valorie | sounds like perhaps you had a different desktop in the past? | 07:10 |
valorie | Unity or Gnome? | 07:10 |
lovesh | gnome | 07:10 |
valorie | ok | 07:10 |
valorie | usually uses gdm | 07:10 |
valorie | or at least used to | 07:10 |
lovesh | when i installed kubuntu 14.10 my screen resolution was screwed up. i could not fix it but after plasma its ok | 07:11 |
lovesh | i mean plasma 5 | 07:11 |
valorie | nice | 07:12 |
valorie | I'm still finding things missing, etc. | 07:12 |
valorie | and filing some bugs along the way | 07:12 |
valorie | but it is my working desktop | 07:12 |
valorie | so far, so good | 07:12 |
lovesh | its still freezing although i have 3 gb ram free of 8 gb | 07:13 |
lovesh | aslo kwin_x11 and Xorg seem to be using 10% cpu | 07:13 |
lovesh | its between 8-10% | 07:13 |
valorie | my freezing seems to be associated with first chromium and then firefox | 07:14 |
lovesh | for each | 07:14 |
valorie | I was seriously considering going back to konqueror or rekonq | 07:14 |
valorie | but then the freezing stopped | 07:14 |
lovesh | ok. i am using google-chrome not chromium but how did u fix that? | 07:14 |
valorie | not sure | 07:14 |
lovesh | after how many reboots did the freezing stop? | 07:15 |
valorie | it could have been coincidental to a period of horrible connectivity from comcast | 07:15 |
valorie | that seems to have evened out at the same time the freezing stopped | 07:15 |
valorie | hard to think of how one would cause the other, though | 07:16 |
lovesh | how can i make sure that i have removed all components that gnome was using. that might have been causing some issues | 07:16 |
lovesh | i have noticed for a long time that in ubuntu if i refresh my network the system freezes for about few seconds | 07:17 |
lovesh | so i think there is some connection in the graphical shell and network connections | 07:18 |
valorie | interesting | 07:20 |
valorie | you could be right | 07:20 |
valorie | !purekde | 07:20 |
ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » | 07:20 |
valorie | lovesh: keep in mind that is rather old | 07:20 |
valorie | so use with care | 07:20 |
valorie | also, this was really interesting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1354924/comments/24 | 07:21 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1354924 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Networkmanager does not autoconnect to wireless network" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 07:21 |
valorie | I've not tried that fix, however | 07:21 |
lovesh | valorie: btw my system still freezes, any other fix that you think might work | 07:23 |
valorie | lovesh: beyond removing those old lightdm, kdm & gdm bits, what have you done? | 07:25 |
lovesh | nothing really excpet googling about it | 07:25 |
soee | good morning | 07:26 |
valorie | you saw my two links above, right? | 07:28 |
valorie | lovesh: ^^^ | 07:28 |
lovesh | yes | 07:28 |
lovesh | i tried removing those gnome packages but it says they are not installed | 07:29 |
lovesh | btw lot of people are facing this freezing issue | 07:29 |
valorie | really? I thought I was alone | 07:30 |
valorie | where are you hearing that? | 07:30 |
lovesh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1384512 | 07:30 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1384512 in Kubuntu PPA "Plasma 5 frequent screen freezes" [Undecided,New] | 07:30 |
lovesh | https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66765-Is-your-shiny-new-Plasma-Next-desktop-freezing-after-a-while | 07:31 |
lovesh | http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-11/msg00841.html | 07:31 |
lovesh | interesting after it freezes if i press Alt+Tab immediately it becomes ok | 07:32 |
valorie | I will read those in a sec | 07:33 |
lovesh_ | valorie: sorry i was disconnected | 07:40 |
valorie | not a problem, I was afk for a few mins | 07:40 |
lovesh_ | i tried Ctrl+Alt+Esc now it has not freezed for a while | 07:43 |
lovesh_ | also i changed from openGL 2 to openGL 3 | 07:43 |
lovesh_ | lets see how it works | 07:43 |
silver | hi there | 07:44 |
valorie | interesting, I have intel as well | 07:44 |
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valorie | just reading that first bug report | 07:44 |
lovesh_ | even i have intel | 07:45 |
Guest75712 | i was upgrading kubuntu using do-release-upgrade, and went back after an hour, the screen session shows "this session is locked. you will be redirected to ..... in few seconds" and its stuck there, how do i get back to desktop. the screen is freezed | 07:45 |
Guest75712 | i can switch to alternate terminals using ctrl+alt+f234 | 07:45 |
Guest75712 | the hard disk seems to be working a lot | 07:45 |
valorie | Guest75712: you might try doing do-release-upgrade in a console and see what it says | 07:46 |
Guest75712 | the do-release-upgrade is already running in a Konsole in the desktop | 07:46 |
valorie | are you sure it is still running? | 07:46 |
Guest75712 | but the desktop got locked and now i cant get back to it | 07:46 |
valorie | !lock | 07:47 |
Guest75712 | i think its running, because the hard disk is doing a lot of work, like it does while installing packages | 07:47 |
valorie | pfff | 07:47 |
Guest75712 | this session is locked. you will be redirected to ..... in few seconds | 07:47 |
valorie | what is the keyword I need | 07:47 |
valorie | !session | 07:47 |
ubottu | To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot | 07:47 |
valorie | pfff | 07:47 |
Guest75712 | is there a way to connect to the Konsole from terminal ? | 07:47 |
Guest75712 | so that i can see what it is outputting | 07:48 |
Guest75712 | atleast if the upgrade has finished i would restart without worry | 07:48 |
valorie | if there is, I don't know it | 07:48 |
hateball | do-release-upgrade seems to run in a screen, so you should be able to attach to it | 07:48 |
Guest75712 | how ? | 07:48 |
hateball | Guest75712: first "ps aux |grep screen" to see if it is actually running at all, or if I remember wrong | 07:49 |
hateball | or "screen -ls" | 07:50 |
hateball | then you can screen -x name-of-session | 07:51 |
Guest75712 | screen is not installed | 07:53 |
Guest75712 | anyways, the session came back and desktop is accessible again | 07:53 |
Guest75712 | thanks anyways | 07:53 |
valorie | excellent! | 07:53 |
Guest75712 | upgrade finished, now restarting | 07:53 |
Guest75712 | byes | 07:53 |
valorie | hateball: that sounds like a useful thing to know | 07:54 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 08:32 |
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Saphyel | TddDoctor_: ??? *_* | 08:50 |
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poolnn | Bob88865 | 09:27 |
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bonk3rzz | I need some small help??? i want a desktop nonfiction for if someone ssh's into my machine (currently running Kubuntu 14.04) any help / ideas would help | 11:09 |
hateball | oh they left | 11:21 |
hateball | oh, back | 11:21 |
hateball | bonk3rzz: you could have a script that monitors /var/log/auth.log and then uses notify-send to make a notification | 11:22 |
bonk3rzz | thats what im trying but im not a script writer | 11:23 |
hateball | bonk3rzz: heh, googling gives https://github.com/ryran/tail2notify/blob/master/tail2notify | 11:23 |
hateball | so apparently others have thought about this before ;d | 11:23 |
bonk3rzz | to me it seems like a hole in security | 11:24 |
hateball | bonk3rzz: What seems like a hole in security? | 11:24 |
bonk3rzz | (access to my terminal with out me knowing) mostly cus someone has been trying with no success to break into my vnc | 11:25 |
hateball | Well, neither of those are enabled by default, so... | 11:26 |
bonk3rzz | ya ya | 11:27 |
lordievader | bonk3rzz: Install fail2ban. | 11:33 |
hateball | One should always have fail2ban, but that won't give desktop notifications | 11:37 |
bonk3rzz | lordievader ill def look into that thx | 11:41 |
lordievader | It can give email notifications. | 11:42 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:32 |
rom1504 | hiya BluesKaj | 12:33 |
BluesKaj | Hi rom1504 | 12:34 |
bonk3rzz | sup | 12:42 |
BluesKaj | not much bonk3rzz, you? | 12:50 |
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Pickers | hello. | 12:53 |
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Nexia | Hi there. I had a question: a few minutes ago, kwin stopped working out of nowhere in my kubuntu installation, leaving me stranded. I tried to re-log in, reboot to no avail. And terminal said that it wasn't installed! | 13:50 |
Nexia | I tried updating from terminal, which made no difference either, but eventually (after flipping through some firefox windows via ctrl+q, and the kickoff, which thankfully stayed), I got to actually installing it "back" by doing sudo apt-get install kde-workspace | 13:53 |
Nexia | my question is basically, isn't there a simple "repair" utility or something via the cli for this sort of thing that can "repair" any corrupted or missing kubuntu system files? | 13:54 |
Nexia | and, did I do the right thing? | 13:54 |
zlakerboy357 | :) | 13:54 |
BluesKaj | Nexia, is kwin back and working ? and yes installing kde-workspace was the correct solution, but the question remains why did kwin disappear ? | 13:59 |
Nexia | I don't know why either, and yes, atm I ran it by doing "kwin" in the terminal, so it's running from terminal | 13:59 |
Nexia | but I bet it'll work when I reboot now | 14:00 |
BluesKaj | I guess we'll see soon enough then | 14:00 |
Nexia | because one of the messages I read while it finished installing was | 14:00 |
Nexia | Setting up kde-window-manager (4:4.11.11-0ubuntu0.1) ... | 14:00 |
Nexia | update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/kwin to provide /usr/bin/x-window-manager (x-window-manager) in auto mode | 14:00 |
Nexia | Okay, I'll reboot heh. | 14:00 |
Nexia | Yep, kwin started as usual | 14:03 |
Nexia | so, it's working, but what puzzles me is what I did to uninstall it >_> | 14:04 |
Nexia | and..if there is anything else "broken" along with it that I don't know of | 14:04 |
hateball | perhaps check your bash history for commands you've run, such as apt-get removing things depending on kwin or such | 14:04 |
Nexia | ok | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | did you update/ upgrade ? | 14:05 |
Nexia | I hadn't in a while | 14:05 |
Nexia | like I said, after this happened, I tried to update/upgrade only then from the terminal | 14:06 |
BluesKaj | maybe an update/upgrade is in order then | 14:06 |
Nexia | and it did update "successfully" (upgrade was 202 mb or something, so I skipped it) | 14:07 |
Nexia | but it did not fix kwin at all | 14:07 |
BluesKaj | makes no differenc ewhere you upgrade from the packaghe managers including apt-get all use the dpkg system to update and upgrade | 14:07 |
Nexia | so nothing in bash history really | 14:13 |
Nexia | didn't do it myself, that's for sure | 14:13 |
BluesKaj | weird | 14:15 |
Nexia | >_< oh well. | 14:16 |
BluesKaj | Nexia, do you have your package manager set to auto-upgrade? seems I recall a setting similar to that on muon and synaptic | 14:20 |
Nexia | I don't think so | 14:20 |
Nexia | how can I check? | 14:21 |
Nexia | and like, there were 202 MB of upgrade downloads | 14:21 |
Nexia | and i hadn't done it a while, so I don't think it's set on "auto-upgrade" | 14:21 |
BluesKaj | look in the package manager/software center settings | 14:22 |
Nexia | ok | 14:23 |
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Nexia | http://i.imgur.com/qdPKRiR.png | 14:25 |
Nexia | nope, don't have it set on install without confirmation | 14:25 |
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EvilRoey | hey when is Wayland hitting Kubuntu? | 17:10 |
EvilRoey | realistically speaking | 17:10 |
EvilRoey | is it within a year? | 17:10 |
EvilRoey | before 15.10? | 17:10 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, your guess is as good as anyone's , there doesn't seem to be any definite Wayland adoption schedule | 17:17 |
EvilRoey | okay | 17:19 |
EvilRoey | that's kind of what I thought | 17:19 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: thanks | 17:19 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: also, I thought of how once NVidia comes out with drivers for Wayland or Wayland and Mir, how quickly work would get done to get KDE on Wayland and into Kubuntu | 17:19 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, you could ask in #kubuntu-devel | 17:20 |
EvilRoey | aye | 17:20 |
EvilRoey | Riddell could just tell me the same thing | 17:20 |
EvilRoey | (regarding Wayland in Kubuntu) | 17:21 |
BluesKaj | yup | 17:21 |
BluesKaj | or google | 17:22 |
EvilRoey | google. Pshah :) | 17:22 |
EvilRoey | How about asking this of Wolfram Alpha | 17:23 |
EvilRoey | WHEN WILL KUBUNTU RELEASE WITH WAYLAND NATIVELY | 17:23 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: is that the idea? Kubuntu will go with Wayland and KDE applications 5, and Ubuntu with Mir? | 17:23 |
EvilRoey | and Gnome? | 17:23 |
EvilRoey | brb | 17:24 |
Riddell | EvilRoey: we've no idea, wayland support is still to be added to kwin and plasma | 17:24 |
BluesKaj | yes, that seems to be the directions they are taking, Ubuntu with Mir and Kubuntu with Wayland | 17:24 |
EvilRoey | Riddell: understood | 17:32 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: it's jsut that I haven't yet heard Canonical acknowledging this disparity | 17:32 |
rww | why would they? | 17:33 |
BluesKaj | canonical is no longer supporting Kubuntu, afaik Blue Systems is now the official support source | 17:33 |
EvilRoey | right, I understand. | 17:35 |
EvilRoey | Because people might want to install Ubuntu and then KDE apps on top of that | 17:35 |
EvilRoey | and a Plasma desktop environment | 17:35 |
albedo039 | a | 17:38 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, still can install kde on ubuntu etc | 17:39 |
albedo039 | yes | 17:39 |
EvilRoey | Is updating from stock Ubuntu still an aim of Kubuntu? | 17:40 |
EvilRoey | is this somthing that we can look forward to in future releases? | 17:40 |
albedo039 | kubunto is 14.10 and ever uograde | 17:41 |
EvilRoey | what do you mean? | 17:42 |
EvilRoey | Kubuntu now is 14.10 | 17:42 |
EvilRoey | that I understand. | 17:42 |
EvilRoey | Till 15.04. | 17:42 |
albedo039 | yes | 17:43 |
EvilRoey | oh, okay then. | 17:43 |
EvilRoey | thank you. | 17:43 |
SonikkuAmerica | Will 15.04 use Plasma 5? | 17:44 |
EvilRoey | SonikkuAmerica: yeah | 17:45 |
EvilRoey | albedo039, BluesKaj, Riddell: I'm interested in what this one article about KDE 5 Frameworks' potential for enhancing applications like Firefox. What would a more KDE-ified Firefox look like? | 17:46 |
albedo039 | now I use stable plasma 4, just testing kubuntu now, I coming from pure debian | 17:47 |
BluesKaj | no idea , with plsama5 on the horizon, who knows | 17:47 |
EvilRoey | I see. | 17:49 |
EvilRoey | I'm on KDE 4. | 17:50 |
EvilRoey | I haven't yet migrated to Plasma for fear of lack of features | 17:50 |
EvilRoey | Also, I love KWin. | 17:50 |
EvilRoey | I hope that KWin5 is as featureful as KWin4 | 17:50 |
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albedo039 | yes I know kwin very collaborative desktop | 17:52 |
albedo039 | ok quit for preparing dinner have a good day | 17:54 |
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anqxyr | anyone knows of a way to make ktorrent download new torrents first? | 19:39 |
bprompt | anqxyr: ... I don't use ktorrent .... or haven't.... what's the default behaviour? I usually download torrents manually | 19:46 |
anqxyr | by default any newly added torrents are put at the end of the queue | 19:46 |
bprompt | hmmm | 19:48 |
bprompt | anqxyr: you could just sort them using the 'name' tab and manually click on 'play' button to start off the ones you want | 19:49 |
bprompt | I don't see anything in settings for what you're after though | 19:50 |
anqxyr | yeah, I could do that, or just manually move it to the top of the queue | 19:50 |
anqxyr | but I want it automated | 19:50 |
anqxyr | :( | 19:50 |
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bprompt | anqxyr: if I think abou it.... what constitutes a "new torretnt" or new queue entry.... what would that be? the latest you added? and isn't that the default behaviour? | 19:53 |
anqxyr | yes, new torrent is the latest added, and they're put at the end of the queue by default | 19:54 |
anqxyr | I can then move them in the queue by hand, but that's not what I want | 19:54 |
bprompt | well | 19:54 |
bprompt | if you want the "latest added" to start downloading....isn't that what the older queue entries are doing? | 19:55 |
anqxyr | no | 19:55 |
anqxyr | it downloads the earliest added torrents first | 19:56 |
bprompt | seems to me ....you want to "trump out" the previous "latest" entries for the last one you've just added | 19:56 |
anqxyr | yes | 19:56 |
bprompt | yes.... but the earliest added.....used to be the lastest added.... is not the app knows how many you're going to add to the queue | 19:56 |
keithzg | I haven't had a chance to play around with it, does SDDM respect ~/.dmrc files? | 20:36 |
dougl | is my azurewave AW-CE123H bluetooth supposed to work under 14.04 LTS.... | 20:36 |
keithzg | Really curious about that since I use a .dmrc file to quickly remotely change the default session between Openbox and an XBMC standalone session on my projector computer. | 20:37 |
dougl | that is the chipset used with my broadcom 4352 wifi combo card | 20:37 |
alex_rock | cant create this symbol: ^ | 21:17 |
soee | ? | 21:17 |
alex_rock | why? have a dell inspiron 7537 | 21:17 |
tertu | ^ | 21:17 |
tertu | that symbol | 21:17 |
tertu | shift-6? | 21:17 |
alex_rock | above tab. | 21:17 |
tertu | ` | 21:17 |
soee | its above 6 | 21:17 |
alex_rock | got german qwertz keyboard | 21:18 |
soee | maybe you have wrong layout set | 21:18 |
alex_rock | i think not | 21:18 |
alex_rock | öüäß works correctly | 21:18 |
alex_rock | its only the ^ key | 21:19 |
alex_rock | latex sucks without ^ | 21:19 |
alex_rock | ° degree works! | 21:21 |
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alex_rock | same button with shift | 21:21 |
ap0c | probably your OS'es key layout | 21:25 |
ap0c | are symbols normally different in the number row for that keyset? | 21:25 |
alex_rock | keyboard model generic 101 keys | 21:26 |
alex_rock | yes | 21:26 |
alex_rock | all keys are correct | 21:26 |
alex_rock | only the ^ key is dead | 21:26 |
alex_rock | maybe one dead key? | 21:27 |
alex_rock | but shift and the key works. I get ° thats also correct | 21:27 |
alex_rock | ap0c: what could be the problem? | 21:27 |
alex_rock | maybe have to choose 102 keys? | 21:28 |
alex_rock | or more? | 21:28 |
alex_rock | when i press a number after ^ I get ² ³ ⁴ ⁵ super script | 21:31 |
alex_rock | solved it. | 21:35 |
alex_rock | thx to |Frodo| | 21:35 |
alex_rock | you have to press ^ and space | 21:35 |
ap0c | glad you fixed it, I know nothing about keysets and their layouts | 21:38 |
ap0c | I was just taking a wild guess | 21:38 |
ap0c | I've just always used the standard QWERTY layout | 21:39 |
alex_rock | ap0c: no prob. dead keys was the answer | 21:39 |
alex_rock | :D | 21:39 |
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YourPlaceOrMine | hi all :) | 22:16 |
YourPlaceOrMine | fresh install 14.04.1 with added app's, now my ? is, is ssd tweak's needed? or will i be fine without doing? | 22:18 |
ap0c | YourPlaceOrMine: I just did quick Google search for 'Kubuntu 14.04.1 SSD', and this was the first result: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd | 22:25 |
YourPlaceOrMine | tap tap, is this thing on | 22:25 |
YourPlaceOrMine | ty ty | 22:25 |
YourPlaceOrMine | :) | 22:25 |
YourPlaceOrMine | gonna take a look | 22:25 |
ap0c | I don't use an SSD so that's about as much as I know, just trying to help | 22:25 |
YourPlaceOrMine | yes of course that is a start | 22:25 |
ap0c | probably going to try one out in the future when I build my next tower | 22:26 |
YourPlaceOrMine | ha shoulda known google is everyone's best-friend | 22:26 |
ap0c | but this laptop is still tanking it out | 22:26 |
YourPlaceOrMine | yea mine 2013 but wal-mart edition | 22:26 |
YourPlaceOrMine | lol | 22:26 |
YourPlaceOrMine | 300 bucks works great | 22:26 |
ap0c | I paid like 1250 for this laptop back in 2010, lol | 22:27 |
ap0c | might be lucky to get 850 if I sell it | 22:28 |
YourPlaceOrMine | nice one | 22:28 |
YourPlaceOrMine | hagd :) and ty | 22:29 |
ap0c | yeah but I might be able to get a more powerful desktop with even 800 nowadays | 22:29 |
ap0c | this is my laptop -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220821 | 22:29 |
ap0c | I upgraded to 8GB of ram and added a 500GB HDD | 22:30 |
ap0c | but it's pretty much a desktop replacement, I use a separate Keyboard / Mouse and just use the hardware/screen | 22:30 |
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