[19:41] barry: ping? [19:41] thomi: pong [19:42] barry: are you able to join a hangout real quick? We're talking about OTA upgrade testing [19:42] thomi: sure [19:44] thomi: do you have a url? [19:45] barry: sorry, one moment [20:10] thomi: will it be a while? i could go walk the dog :) [20:10] barry: sorry! I forgot to tell you, we had to cancel :( [20:10] Letozaf_, ask away in here [20:10] barry: but I'm sure jfunk will talk to you about it soon :D [20:11] thomi: okay :) [20:11] sorry, I should ahve mentioned it earlier [20:11] is there a way to launch autopilot vis and autopilot launch on the device ? [20:11] I nedd this for filemanager [20:12] Letozaf_: autopilot vis doesn't work on the device (purely desktop application) [20:12] Letozaf_: you can with x forwarding with ssh, but it's super unusable slow [20:12] Letozaf_: there is print tree (i.e. in an example test launch app and use print tree) but it's not quite a good as vis [20:13] robotfuel: ah, I''ve never had that working :-) [20:13] Letozaf_: vis is a little bit usable, it's not as slow as autopilot launch [20:14] robotfuel, try that with the emulator? [20:14] balloons: I've only tried on a n4 [20:16] Letozaf_, that said I would agree with everyone and question why you think you need it. There might be a way to get want you want on the desktop.. there certainly is using print_tree [20:17] balloons, the fact is that I use autopilot vis a lot to write tests and on the desktop I do not have the same filemanager behavior as on the device [20:18] balloons, for instance to get the places tab [20:18] Letozaf_, ahh.. I understand [20:18] Letozaf_, so there's a trick we can do to fix that :-) [20:18] balloons, :-P what trick ? [20:18] Letozaf_, we can force file manager to run in small mode on the desktop [20:18] balloons, how do you do that ? it would be great [20:19] * balloons feels like the keeper of secrets [20:19] veebers, btw did the AP release go only into vivid right? So utopic is stuck at wherever it ended [20:20] balloons: correct, the release (which will happen this morning) is vivid only [20:20] veebers, I ask because I'm writing up a post on AP features and I want to include the timeout feature [20:21] maybe I won't for that reason [20:21] balloons: ah cool :-) Yeah sorry, it didn't make it to Utopic :-( [20:21] veebers, it's easier actually if you don't call it 1.5 then [20:21] it will be 1.6 yes? [20:23] balloons: hmm, it'll be 1.5 as it doesn't make any backwards incompatible changes [20:23] veebers, right.. I feel like historically maybe we changed numbers each time a new release happened [20:23] I guess I can confirm / deny my theory [20:23] balloons: otp, will follow up in a little bit [20:24] * Letozaf_ is wondering if the keeper of secrets will disclose his secret :-P [20:24] Letozaf_, sorry, lol! [20:24] veebers, yea, trusty is 1.4, utopic 1.5 [20:25] balloons, lol [20:25] Letozaf_, so there's a switch in the main qml file that sets it one way or the other [20:25] there may be an argument to pass, let me check [20:25] otherwise you could set it manually in the qml [20:30] Letozaf_, indeed, pass -p or --phone [20:30] balloons, ok let me try [20:35] balloons, does filemanager have to be launched in a particular way as launching autopilot3 launch -i Qt qmlscene ../../src/app/qml/filemanager.qml [20:35] balloons, gives me file:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/ubuntu-filemanager-app/src/app/qml/filemanager.qml:147 Type FolderListPage unavailable [20:35] file:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/ubuntu-filemanager-app/src/app/qml/ui/FolderListPage.qml:196 Cannot assign to non-existent property "onlyMTPPaths" [20:35] Letozaf_, filemanager is a compiled app now [20:35] so you should build it first, and launch the binary [20:37] balloons, I read the README file and it says to use qtcreator is there another way to build it ? I mean cmake and make for instance? [20:41] Letozaf_, yes, use cmake make [20:41] cmake ., make [20:41] if you want to build in-tree that is :-) [20:42] balloons, yay I prefere this to qtcreator :P [22:45] nuclearbob, thomi for LP: #1381177, do you have a bootchart.tgz that triggers the bug? [22:45] Launchpad bug 1381177 in bootchart (Ubuntu) "bootchart raises IndexError" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1381177 [22:46] that works as well :D [22:46] :) [22:46] nuclearbob_: for LP: #1381177, do you have a bootchart.tgz that triggers the bug? [22:48] * thomi wonders if we should be talking to nuclearbob or nuclearbob_ [22:50] barry: I'll see if we can get one. I don't know what type of artifact harvesting we do when the job fails [22:55] barry: /home/max/bootchart.tgz on chinstrap [22:55] nuclearbob_: downloading [22:57] nuclearbob_: okay, reproduced. now for the fun bits [22:58] ooh, fun bits [22:58] barry: do you need me for those? I'm reaching EOD, but I'll be out tomorrow so I'd like to wrap up what I can before I take off [22:59] if i can only find up-to-date source :/ [22:59] nuclearbob_: no more today i think [23:01] nuclearbob_: thanks for that, and for your email - very helpful [23:02] barry, thomi: cool, let me know if you need anything else, and I'll reply as soon as I can [23:03] well, at least pybootchartgui (where this crashes) is obsolete upstream [23:26] thomi: do you know if max needs this in utopic or just vivid? [23:26] i have a fix for vivid [23:29] barry: hmmm [23:29] barry: I don't know TBH [23:30] barry: presumably it's easy to port the fix to utopic and just have it in a PPA? [23:30] thomi: should be. very trivial fix. at least so it won't crash, but i can't vouch for whether it still gives the info you want. :) [23:30] thomi: i'm going to get some dinner then will upload this [23:31] barry: if it doesn't give us what we want we'll be back to torment you further :D