| pitti | Laney: thanks for sorting out the g-s-d deps; did that creep in with debclean? i. e. weren't they commented in control.in? | 04:43 |
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| pitti | Bonjour | 04:43 |
| desrt | pitti: bonjour! | 04:50 |
| pitti | bonjour desrt, comment vas-tu ? | 04:50 |
| desrt | pitti: vous êtes une femme et je suis un garçon | 04:50 |
| pitti | desrt: J'ai vu que tu commence apprendre français ? | 04:50 |
| desrt | pitti: that's all i got so far from duolingo | 04:51 |
| pitti | desrt: non, je suis un garçon aussi :-) | 04:51 |
| desrt | unless you want to eat an apple or something | 04:51 |
| desrt | nous avons les pommes! | 04:52 |
| desrt | seriously, though... this site improved a lot since i was on it last time (>2 years ago, apparently) | 04:53 |
| pitti | desrt: en effet | 04:59 |
| larsu | good morning! | 06:15 |
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| darkxst | pitti, Laney thanks for driving the upower transition home ;) | 06:44 |
| pitti | hey larsu, wie gehts? | 06:44 |
| pitti | darkxst: yw; thanks for preparing and testing most bits already! | 06:44 |
| larsu | pitti: sehr gut danke! Porto war toll ;) | 06:46 |
| larsu | pitti: wie geht's dir? | 06:46 |
| darkxst | pitti, np, so we just need gtk and bluez5 at some point but not urgent | 06:48 |
| darkxst | larsu, how is gtk going? | 06:48 |
| darkxst | (I mean Bluez5 is not urgent) | 06:49 |
| pitti | larsu: prima, danke; wenig Schlaf :/ | 06:49 |
| larsu | darkxst: isn't it in the desktop team ppa? | 06:54 |
| * larsu thought Laney was going to upload it | 06:55 | |
| darkxst | larsu, no not yet | 06:58 |
| larsu | let's see if we can make that happen today, then | 07:00 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:02 |
| darkxst | larsu, ok | 07:02 |
| darkxst | seb128, morning | 07:03 |
| seb128 | what are you guys speaking about? | 07:03 |
| seb128 | gtk? | 07:03 |
| darkxst | gtk | 07:03 |
| seb128 | larsu, your vcs has the mir backend commented out | 07:03 |
| seb128 | we were unsure if that needs to be resolved before testing/upload | 07:03 |
| seb128 | desrt said he gave you an update patch on pastebin | 07:03 |
| larsu | he did, but I didn't manage to apply it before leaving | 07:05 |
| larsu | I'll do that today | 07:05 |
| seb128 | larsu, k, that's why we didn't upload it | 07:08 |
| didrocks | morning | 08:11 |
| larsu | morning didrocks! | 08:11 |
| * larsu <-- fast | 08:11 | |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 08:12 |
| didrocks | how were your holidays? | 08:12 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:12 |
| larsu | didrocks: awesome! | 08:13 |
| larsu | thanks. How are you? | 08:13 |
| didrocks | I'm still sick (since last Wednesday) | 08:14 |
| didrocks | so this morning, still headache + temperature :/ | 08:14 |
| didrocks | (not as bad as it was though) | 08:14 |
| didrocks | but quite tired then, didn't really enjoy the week-end | 08:14 |
| seb128 | didrocks, :-( | 08:14 |
| larsu | uh oh, get better! | 08:15 |
| didrocks | thanks | 08:16 |
| larsu | also, drink more tea! | 08:16 |
| didrocks | yeah, well, water first… | 08:16 |
| mlankhorst | Hello, world!\n | 08:31 |
| didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 08:34 |
| mlankhorst | hey | 08:35 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:42 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke mlankhorst | 08:43 |
| mvo | good morning | 08:43 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 08:43 |
| seb128 | happy monday everyone ;-) | 08:43 |
| mvo | hey seb128 :) | 08:43 |
| Laney | yo yo YO | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, wie gehts? | 09:04 |
| larsu | what up Laney | 09:04 |
| larsu | and hi everyone else who joined :) | 09:05 |
| Laney | doing good | 09:05 |
| Laney | a coffee man told me i looked like i'd been working out and gave me a terrorist fist bump | 09:05 |
| larsu | can I turn off spotify notifications? | 09:06 |
| larsu | Laney: nice! | 09:06 |
| * larsu fist-bumps Laney | 09:06 | |
| Laney | lolz | 09:06 |
| Laney | how was your week off? | 09:06 |
| Laney | & how are you seb128 ? | 09:06 |
| larsu | awesome. porto is really nice | 09:06 |
| Laney | pitti: commented> no, in fact running clean is basically what I did | 09:07 |
| larsu | can recommend hanging out there | 09:07 |
| larsu | don't get the local speciality though. It's disgusting | 09:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, doing good, thanks ;-) | 09:07 |
| larsu | kind of like poutine | 09:07 |
| larsu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesinha | 09:07 |
| Laney | is that cheese on top? | 09:08 |
| larsu | ya | 09:08 |
| Laney | ... | 09:08 |
| Laney | the meat by itself looks nice | 09:08 |
| larsu | but it isn't | 09:08 |
| larsu | I ate it at the supposedly best place | 09:09 |
| larsu | was sick the whole day after | 09:09 |
| Laney | urgh | 09:11 |
| larsu | wow, I need to edit a config file to disable track notifications | 09:11 |
| larsu | what is this, 1999? | 09:11 |
| Laney | it's vivid time | 09:28 |
| * Laney stabs the pandaboard | 09:28 | |
| Laney | I need to replace this heap of crap | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | get a nexus5 ;) | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | use ubuntu-touch and a chroot ... will definitely be a lot faster | 09:29 |
| Laney | SOLD | 09:31 |
| seb128 | is anyone here having a unity8-desktop (desktop-next) vivid install? is unity8 still starting for you? | 09:35 |
| willcooke | seb128, I can install it and test | 09:36 |
| willcooke | seb128, is the desktop next ISO rebased on V already? Do I just download that? | 09:37 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:38 |
| seb128 | that should work | 09:38 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 09:38 |
| * willcooke downloads | 09:38 | |
| didrocks | seb128: Thursday's image was starting | 09:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, vivid was working for me on thursday | 09:49 |
| seb128 | I dist-upgraded today and it's not starting anymore | 09:49 |
| * willcooke writes the ISO to USB | 10:07 | |
| willcooke | 15.04 installed still says "Welcome to 14.10" | 10:30 |
| willcooke | guess thats normal at this point | 10:31 |
| didrocks | yeah, the templates are updated later in the cycle | 10:31 |
| seb128 | they can be updated now | 10:31 |
| seb128 | it's just that nobody did it yet I guess | 10:31 |
| willcooke | can I do it? | 10:32 |
| willcooke | seems like something I could probably get my head around | 10:32 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:32 |
| didrocks | sure ;) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | it's going to take more time figuring out what to change and how that to do the change | 10:32 |
| seb128 | but yeah, you could do it | 10:32 |
| willcooke | seb128, yup - looks b0rked. I | 10:40 |
| willcooke | I set up auto login from the installed | 10:40 |
| willcooke | I'll try again with out that | 10:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: want me to upgrade things one after another to see what broke it? | 10:41 |
| didrocks | or confirm? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, downgrading unity8{,-private,-common} fixes it for me so I guess it's it | 10:44 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks for confirming | 10:44 |
| willcooke | I wish Canonical would buy this and redirect it: http://www.lauchpad.net/ | 10:45 |
| didrocks | ok | 10:45 |
| willcooke | my terrible typing would be happy | 10:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, if you want to try/confirm that would be nice still ;-) | 10:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: could do, one sec | 10:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: confirming | 10:53 |
| seb128 | Saviq, ^ willcooke and didrocks confirm the unity8 desktop issue | 10:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks! | 10:55 |
| seb128 | on that note going for lunch, back in ~1h | 10:55 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 11:57 |
| mlankhorst | erm | 11:57 |
| mlankhorst | afternoon* :P | 11:57 |
| mlankhorst | except to you brits! | 11:58 |
| Laney | two more minutes | 11:58 |
| willcooke | any ideas why this BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-1504-desktop-apps-on-mir | 12:35 |
| willcooke | isnt showing here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid | 12:35 |
| seb128 | willcooke, because you didn't target vivid | 12:35 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I accepted it, it's listed now | 12:36 |
| willcooke | is that "milestone target"? | 12:36 |
| seb128 | willcooke, no, it's "serie goal", but you don't have enough ubuntu-foo to accept things, you can just nominate it seems | 12:36 |
| willcooke | ah, ok, | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I accepted it for you | 12:37 |
| willcooke | thanks! | 12:37 |
| seb128 | yw! | 12:37 |
| willcooke | back to the foo mine for me | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure what team give you those rights and if you can be add | 12:37 |
| willcooke | I'll find out... | 12:37 |
| seb128 | or if that's something that comes with reward for having done enough work in Ubuntu/beeing trusted knowing the details enough | 12:37 |
| * Laney has these buttons too | 12:37 | |
| larsu | willcooke: could just use seb128 as a secretary :P | 12:38 |
| larsu | "push this link for me please" | 12:38 |
| willcooke | I like that plan very much | 12:38 |
| willcooke | ;) | 12:38 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you plan to merge/update webkitgtk? just wondering if bug #1388389 is for you :-) | 13:09 |
| ubot5 | bug 1388389 in webkitgtk (Ubuntu) "please update Utopic to WebKitGTK 2.4.7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1388389 | 13:09 |
| Laney | dude | 13:10 |
| Laney | you should check launchpad.net/builders | 13:10 |
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| Laney | ;-) | 13:12 |
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| Laney | seb128: back to you, what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1383486 ? are you SRUing it or should I? | 13:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1383486 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Utopic) "menu to select zoom doesn't drop down" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, I can do it, I was waiting to get feedback from vivid | 13:17 |
| Laney | fair enough, /me is upgrading atm so can check in a minute | 13:30 |
| * Laney → lunch while that grinds | 13:30 | |
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| seb128 | larsu, do you have free slot to debug an unity-panel-service/indicator-messages/gtk_menu_tracker segfault? | 14:12 |
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| larsu | sure | 14:12 |
| * larsu is almost done with after-sprint-and-holiday-catchup | 14:13 | |
| seb128 | larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1386584 is yours | 14:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1386584 in unity (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV when notification contains |" [High,Confirmed] | 14:16 |
| seb128 | larsu, the u-p-s segfaults when getting a message from an IRC contact with a "|" in its name | 14:16 |
| seb128 | confirmed on current vivid | 14:16 |
| larsu | wfm | 14:16 |
| seb128 | ? | 14:16 |
| larsu | oops. stop. | 14:17 |
| * larsu read that as notify-isd | 14:17 | |
| larsu | I'll check | 14:17 |
| larsu | thanks for pointing me to it | 14:17 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:17 |
| seb128 | I confirmed it here | 14:17 |
| seb128 | so let me know if you need details | 14:17 |
| larsu | pretty sure I know the issue already | 14:18 |
| seb128 | k | 14:18 |
| larsu | i-messages puts contact names into actions without escaping them | 14:18 |
| larsu | actually, xchat does | 14:18 |
| larsu | but i-messages should really check :) | 14:18 |
| seb128 | k | 14:19 |
| seb128 | thanks for looking at it :-) | 14:19 |
| larsu | Laney, desrt: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739567 | 14:26 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 739567 in general "Comment in sol.c is needlessly offensive" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:26 |
| larsu | also replied to his mail, saying I thought it's a trivial enough change | 14:26 |
| Laney | larsu: thanks for doing that | 14:28 |
| larsu | took some effort not to yell :) | 14:29 |
| Laney | I'm sure you will get a considered and polite response to thank you for your efforts :-) | 14:29 |
| larsu | :) | 14:30 |
| didrocks | waow, the street will be so clean! | 14:38 |
| didrocks | third time the clean vehicule is driving into my street today (and it's just a one-way street) | 14:39 |
| Laney | maybe the queen is visiting | 14:39 |
| seb128 | maybe they want to justify being able to ask for more local tax? ;-) | 14:40 |
| Laney | pitti: I got a conffile prompt for upower on dist-upgrade (http://paste.debian.net/130002), any clue? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | "but see, you can enjoy very clean streets" | 14:40 |
| didrocks | heh, especially when it's raining… :) | 14:40 |
| xnox | larsu: have you made debian/ubuntu codesearches for swear words? a bunch of them get pages of results. | 14:40 |
| Laney | hmm, I might have had an old 0.99 at some point | 14:41 |
| Laney | so maybe it's okay | 14:41 |
| larsu | xnox: no. chpe started a commit war and this is my reply :) | 14:42 |
| xnox | larsu: interesting, can you point to the source of the commit war? | 14:44 |
| larsu | xnox: not a war yet: https://git.gnome.org/browse/aisleriot/log | 14:45 |
| * Laney restarts into vivid | 14:45 | |
| Laney | hopefully | 14:45 |
| xnox | larsu: "That commit was unauthorised." - LOLZ | 14:46 |
| larsu | xnox: ya... he sent me a nasty email too | 14:46 |
| larsu | xnox: he's technically right of course, but seriously... | 14:46 |
| larsu | he also reverted a similar thing in terminal, so I thought it's ok | 14:47 |
| Laney | you get stuff like this when NMUing in Debian sometimes too | 14:47 |
| xnox | it's like all of my patches submitted to GNOME never got applied, "because maintainer should apply them" and eventually my patches got closed with "this project was re-written in vala" | 14:47 |
| seb128 | you usually don't NMU from an activate maintainer without talking to him first... | 14:47 |
| xnox | seb128: i do. | 14:47 |
| seb128 | but blame on Laney for saying that chpe was mia when he was not ;-) | 14:48 |
| Laney | I didn't say that | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I though you said he changed his bzg account to "not around anymore" or something like that | 14:48 |
| seb128 | sorry, I probably understood that wrongly | 14:48 |
| Laney | It said "away, not reading bugmail" | 14:48 |
| Laney | or similar | 14:48 |
| seb128 | anyway, dealing with some people is fun :p | 14:49 |
| xnox | "... but carefully reading commit mails" | 14:49 |
| larsu | :D | 14:49 |
| mlankhorst | willcooke: is there anyone working on rootless X yet? :P | 14:54 |
| mlankhorst | oh, all TODO.. | 14:55 |
| willcooke | mlankhorst, yeah the Mir team have it all on their list. Do you want to get involved in that? | 14:55 |
| seb128 | (they could probably use some help with that) | 14:56 |
| mlankhorst | I've poked and dissected xwayland a little today, I think such a glamor-based approach could work for xmir too | 14:56 |
| mlankhorst | although it seems to depend on proper mir input wsup | 14:57 |
| mlankhorst | s/wsup/support/ | 14:57 |
| ChrisTownsend | mlankhorst: raof has a test branch/packages that I've been using: https://launchpad.net/~raof/+archive/ubuntu/break-all-the-things | 14:58 |
| mlankhorst | ah | 14:58 |
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| didrocks | typical raof's branching naming :) | 15:00 |
| pitti | Laney: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Mock"? might that be from a leftover installation of python-dbusmocK? | 15:00 |
| mlankhorst | I think a standalone XMIR has more chance of getting accepted upstream. | 15:00 |
| pitti | Laney: I mean, the package doesn't install that, but I guess you might have modified it locally for testing the template (as you worked on that some time ago) | 15:00 |
| mlankhorst | or alternatively: not a chance in hall the driver hacks will get accepted. :P | 15:00 |
| ChrisTownsend | I think he has some sort of plan...just not sure what it is:) | 15:01 |
| Laney | pitti: Hmm, maybe,, I don't remember having t o do that but if the package doesn't say anything about it then probably so | 15:01 |
| pitti | Laney: org.freedesktop.DBus.Mock is definitively not appearing in upower itself | 15:01 |
| Laney | whatever is this lag | 15:01 |
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| Laney | seb128: http://paste.debian.net/130008 | 15:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, \o/ | 15:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | seb128, woot! | 15:47 |
| * xnox ponders if i should be running vivid on my work laptop. It's on trusty at the moment, and all other machines are on utopic. | 15:47 | |
| larsu | seb128: sorry for the wait. Added desrt's updated mir patch to lp:~larsu/gtk/gtk-3-14 | 16:37 |
| seb128 | larsu, great! you consider the update ready for review/testing? | 16:37 |
| larsu | seb128: I think so, yes | 16:37 |
| tedg | Laney, Could you look at this? https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/indicator-applet/libpanel-applet-3.10+/+merge/230851 | 16:38 |
| ochosi | hey folks! | 16:39 |
| seb128 | hey ochosi, how are you? | 16:39 |
| ochosi | good good – you? | 16:39 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 16:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you want to look at the new gtk from larsu or should I? | 16:40 |
| ochosi | cool, good to hear | 16:40 |
| ochosi | i wanted to ask you guys – since we talked about headerbars a few times already – whether this visual glitch could come from the headerbar-to-toolbar patch in evince: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-10-27-124835.php | 16:40 |
| ochosi | (note that it doesn't always happen and it goes away too if you resize the window and stuff, basically if you cause a redraw) | 16:41 |
| ochosi | second question being why simple scan uses a headerbar – i thought it's installed in ubuntu by default? (or at least written by robert_ancell) | 16:41 |
| seb128 | ochosi, not sure, it's worth trying if the most recent gtk upload fixes it | 16:42 |
| seb128 | that's in vivid and in the utopic sru queue (not approved yet) | 16:42 |
| ochosi | right, this is in utopic | 16:42 |
| ochosi | ah, 3.14 is going to utopic? | 16:42 |
| seb128 | no | 16:42 |
| ochosi | ah ok, the link to larsu's branch above tricked me :) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | I mean https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.12.2-0ubuntu16 | 16:42 |
| seb128 | that's a fix for the popover menu not opening under env that display the menu | 16:43 |
| ochosi | ah, good to know | 16:43 |
| ochosi | i'll look out for that one | 16:43 |
| seb128 | which is used by evince for e.g zoom | 16:43 |
| seb128 | dunno for the second question, did you try under Unity? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | I think robert_ancell did unity and !unity codepaths | 16:43 |
| seb128 | but best to check with him, I don't know much about it | 16:44 |
| Laney | ya, can look at 3.14 | 16:45 |
| Laney | larsu: do you know of any theme problems? | 16:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 16:45 |
| larsu | Laney: "no" | 16:45 |
| ochosi | seb128: ok, i see. well i guess a !gnome codepath would be better, but i can talk about that with him | 16:46 |
| seb128 | ochosi, yeah, talk to him, I discussed it a bit that with him, in the context of patching GNOME apps and he didn't really agree I think | 16:50 |
| seb128 | he was rather on the line of "we tweak for Unity but we are not in a position to decide for other desktops and should follow upstream in those cases" | 16:51 |
| seb128 | but well, if xubuntu ask to be added to the list and then $otherenv he might revisit | 16:53 |
| ochosi | seb128: ok, that sounds like a discussion really makes sense. i mean this problem will basically re-surface every cycle i guess... (at least for us) | 17:06 |
| * didrocks waves good evening and good night! | 17:06 | |
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| Laney | wee | 18:14 |
| Laney | merged gtk, uploaded to ppa | 18:14 |
| * Laney goes away, ttyl | 18:15 | |
| maxb | X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false in a ~/.config/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop seems to no longer be honoured in Utopic - would anyone have some hints as to where I should be looking to find out why? | 18:54 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, I think due to daylight savings our meeting is now 2 hours away (according to my calendar). But can do any time from now | 18:54 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, hero! | 18:59 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell_: hey there! quick question, any reason why simple-scan is using gtkheaderbars in xubuntu but not in unity? if possible, it'd be nice not to just check for !unity, but also for !xfce for headerbars | 21:01 |
| robert_ancell_ | ochosi, it checks if the shell has gtk-shell-shows-menubar set. But that's a bit hacky. In other codebases we've switched to checking XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP which seems more reliable | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell_ | ochosi, open a bug and I'll update it to check XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP and hide the header bar for Unity and XFCE | 21:04 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell_: thanks a bunch, that's very kind of you! | 21:04 |
| ochosi | i'll be sure to report a bug asap | 21:04 |
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