| darkxst | d1ndra, there is pretty much no c++ in GNOME | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| darkxst | lots of c, vala, javascript (for gnome-shell) and a few python apps | 00:07 |
| d1ndra | I know C too, but I've heard that developing with C take in a lot of effort and one has to focus on a lot of details. Would it be a good idea to enhance my knowledge of Python and work on something using it? | 00:09 |
| knittl | darkxst: adwaita (default) | 06:36 |
| darkxst | knittl, I have heard reports but not been able to reproduce myself | 06:37 |
| knittl | hm. I will make a screenshot later today | 06:38 |
| darkxst | knittl, are they just transparent? | 06:38 |
| knittl | darkxst: yeah, the dark themed windows (for instance gnome-terminal) get a transparent title bar (still with title and buttons, but transparent background) | 06:39 |
| darkxst | yeh seen screenshots of that, but I am hopeless at theming, so can't fix unless I can reproduce | 06:40 |
| knittl | my guess is some invalid css properties | 06:40 |
| darkxst | knittl, maybe its using the old adwaita, rather than the one that is now built-in to gtk package (for 3.14) | 06:41 |
| knittl | could be a possibility | 06:41 |
| knittl | how can I verify? | 06:41 |
| darkxst | I'm not entirely sure, you could just try removing the old gnome-themes package if its still installed? | 06:44 |
| knittl | iirc it was a dependency of ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 06:44 |
| darkxst | knittl, let it remove that if needed | 06:45 |
| knittl | alright. will try in the afternoon | 06:45 |
| darkxst | knittl, ok let me know how it goes, I will be updating ubuntu-gnome-desktop for 3.14 in a week or 2 (on vivid) but can backport that to utopic ppa also | 06:47 |
| knittl | sure. thanks :) | 06:47 |
| mgedmin | knittl, it's also worth running apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate, to see if you've all the packages from the right archives | 06:48 |
| knittl | will do (but I think everything is up to date) | 06:49 |
| mgedmin | (also it _might_ be a driver bug) | 06:56 |
| knittl | nvidia? how?? | 06:57 |
| mgedmin | I mean, if badly-drawn shadows can be a driver bug, why not badly-drawn titlebars? | 06:59 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, sure it could be, but I have not seen any bugs with nvidia blob | 07:02 |
| mgedmin | knittl, do you use the blob or noveau? | 07:03 |
| knittl | mgedmin: proprietary nvidia | 07:04 |
| knittl | nouveau doesn't work on my system (forces hard reboots) | 07:05 |
| mgedmin | ok, that's interesting: my gnome-shell just crashed | 07:06 |
| knittl | the hard reboots don't have anything to do with gnome-shell | 07:07 |
| mgedmin | segfault in shell_app_compare | 07:07 |
| mgedmin | ho ho ho UnicodeEncodeError in apport-retrace while printing the stack trace | 07:11 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, apport-retrace is pretty fragile | 07:15 |
| darkxst | and if the crash is from js code, you really need shell in a live gdb session so you can gjs_dumpstack() | 07:16 |
| darkxst | one day gdb might grow support to retrace those things (I think someone at mozilla is working on it), but right now its not that way unfortunaley | 07:27 |
| mgedmin | my disk hasn't got enough free space for all the debug symbols :/ | 07:28 |
| darkxst | most are pretty small except for bloody webkit | 07:31 |
| mgedmin | interesting message in /home/mg/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-GNOME.log during gnome-shell startup | 08:04 |
| mgedmin | (gnome-shell:30338): Gjs-WARNING **: JS ERROR: Exception in callback for signal: startup-complete: Error: Requiring GSystem, version none: Typelib file for namespace 'GSystem' (any version) not found | 08:04 |
| mgedmin | missing dependency on some gir package? | 08:04 |
| mgedmin | gir1.2-gsystem-1.0? | 08:06 |
| mgedmin | yeah, installing that and alt-f2 r gets rid of the error | 08:10 |
| mgedmin | I'll file a bug so this doesn't get lost | 08:11 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1388736 | 08:15 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1388736 in Ubuntu GNOME "missing dependency on gir1.2-gsystem-1.0" [Undecided,New] | 08:15 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, or fix it and I will upload for you ;) | 08:46 |
| darkxst | this month is a flurry of sorts, hopefully we will have all of core 3.14 in before alpha1 | 08:49 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, and I only have time to work on the real problems, that other team members can't do | 08:52 |
| mgedmin | do you keep the packaging bits in a repository somewhere? I could send a git patch... | 08:53 |
| [vbm] | hi there, my 14.04 upgrade broke Gnome Do. I am running ubuntu with openbox + tint2 + docky and I can invoke Do with ctrl+alt+space but when I type something nothing appears. I googled it but couldn't find anything helpful. can anybody help? | 08:54 |
| mgedmin | oh, gir1.2-gsystem-1.0 is not available on debian | 09:28 |
| mgedmin | and here I was all prepared to report a debian bug | 09:28 |
| === prth is now known as prth|away | ||
| mgedmin | welp, why is libvte in ubuntu so ancient (0.28.2)? upstream is up to version 0.38 already | 11:03 |
| mgedmin | and I want a bugfix from 0.35.1 (https://github.com/GNOME/vte/commit/a118544044e064ea1d3f36e959d961845ec9c317) | 11:03 |
| mgedmin | never mind I'm an idio | 11:08 |
| [vbm] | hi there, my 14.04 upgrade broke Gnome Do. I am running ubuntu with openbox + tint2 + docky and I can invoke Do with ctrl+alt+space but when I type something nothing appears. I googled it but couldn't find anything helpful. can anybody help? | 11:20 |
| mgedmin | [vbm], wouldn't know where to start :( | 11:21 |
| [vbm] | mgedmin, thanks anyway. I upgraded my X40 a couple of days ago and now I can't use do's shortcuts. It's a bit annoying as a I normally use it for everything that isn't on the dock. | 11:25 |
| mgedmin | I can imagine | 11:26 |
| mgedmin | is it gnome-do failing to find something? or an input problem of some sort? | 11:26 |
| mgedmin | have you tried google? | 11:26 |
| [vbm] | gnome-do appears as blank. whatever I type appears in the box, but the usual autocomplete and with the 2nd box showing run does not appear | 11:29 |
| mgedmin | any errors in, uh, ~/.cache/upstart/*.log? | 11:29 |
| [vbm] | google hasn't been particularly helpful. most links are about how great gnome-do is and how to install it :) checking *.log now | 11:30 |
| [vbm] | can't find upstart under .cache | 11:33 |
| mgedmin | then maybe ~/.xsession-errors | 11:35 |
| [vbm] | a couple of badwindow messages and a few "Cairo.Surface is leaking, programmer is missing a call to Dispose" but I'm not sure invoking do creates nay more entries on the log | 11:39 |
| mgedmin | [vbm], I suggest asking for advice on #gnome-do | 11:40 |
| [vbm] | thanks. will do. i didn't see that channel before. thanks. | 11:43 |
| lindol | hi all | 11:51 |
| lindol | Heavensbus, hi | 11:52 |
| Heavensbus | lindol: hi | 11:55 |
| knittl | darkxst: hi | 16:47 |
| knittl | I'm at my machine again | 16:47 |
| knittl | removing gnome-themes-standard will also remove gdm*, gnome-shell*, and mutter* (to name a few) | 16:48 |
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