[01:16] <[Neurotic]> Hi! I'm looking for the source for http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.17.1-utopic/ - I *think* I found it in git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-utopic.git under the unstable branch (I see there is a commit to rebase against 3.17). Is that correct?
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[08:46] <apw> [Neurotic], nope, there is no branch for the mainline builds; they are made from the base commit (see COMMIT) and the patches there
[08:46] <apw> in the same directory with the binaries
[09:32] <[Neurotic]> apw: Sorry, not understanding what the "base commit" is - is that in the kernel.ubuntu git repository? or are you referring to the mainline linux kernel repository?
[09:33] <apw> [Neurotic], the base commit is the commit listed in COMMIT which is found in either linus' tree or the stable tree in those (mostly)
[09:33] <[Neurotic]> apw: (thanks for answering though)
[09:33] <apw> for v3.17.1 clearly that is a stable version, which is therefore in the stable tree
[09:34] <[Neurotic]> apw: But there is no tag for v3.17.1 in the utopic git repo
[09:34] <[Neurotic]> I am looking at the cloned git repository now, and I can't see anything to match it up to
[09:35] <[Neurotic]> (thanks for your help btw, much appreciated apw )
[09:35] <[Neurotic]> ...so I'm guessing it's a v3.17.1 tag in linus's tree then?
[09:36] <[Neurotic]> Which I'm assuming is this: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/v3.17
[09:39] <apw> nope, v3.17.1 which is in the stable tree
[09:40] <apw> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
[09:41] <[Neurotic]> aaah
[09:42] <[Neurotic]> I would never have found that on my own - much appreciaed
[10:19] <mvo> hi, does anyone have concerns if I remove some kernels (like linux-dove, details under http://paste.ubuntu.com/8800923/) from platform.vivid ? AFAICT these kernels are no longer in utopic or vivid and some not even in trusty. 
[10:20] <infinity> mvo: Go nuts.  Just make sure there are no transitional metapackages you're removing.
[10:20] <infinity> mvo: Though, if there are (for, say, omap or highbank), that would be a bug, as they should have been dropped post-trusty.
[10:20] <mvo> infinity: ok, I check. 
[10:21] <infinity> mvo: That said, that file is pretty much a lie anyway, as we don't build any bootable images for armhf.
[10:21] <mvo> infinity: while you are here … ogra_ suggested that I ask if you might have a idea why https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-core-system-image fails to build armhf - well, it fails because it tries to install linux-mx5 and linux-omap
[10:21] <infinity> mvo: The icky regex in supported-kernel-common is more interesting.
[10:22] <mvo> infinity: the linux-omap might come from the seeds, but I can't find anything linux-mx5 rleeated
[10:22] <ogra_> thats long gone
[10:22] <mvo> infinity: oh, I haven't touched this one yet :)
[10:22] <ogra_> was mx5 even there for more than one release ? 
[10:22] <ogra_> (in the archive i mean) 
[10:22] <ogra_> iirc that was just to please linaro 
[10:23] <infinity> mvo: That failure has nothing to do with seeds at all.
[10:23] <mvo> infinity: all livecd-rootfs releated?
[10:23] <infinity> mvo: It's because you're not selecting a kernel (or "none")
[10:23] <infinity> mvo: And live-build is picking a default for you.
[10:23] <infinity> functions/defaults.sh:			LB_LINUX_FLAVOURS="${LB_LINUX_FLAVOURS:-mx5 omap}"
[10:24] <mvo> woah, thanks
[10:24] <mvo> silly me for not looking into live-build and only into livecd-rootfs
[10:24] <mvo> thanks infinity \o/
[10:24] <infinity> mvo: See livecd-rootfs config.
[10:25] <infinity> mvo:         ubuntu-server|ubuntu-core|ubuntu-touch)
[10:25] <infinity>                                 KERNEL_FLAVOURS=none
[10:25] <infinity> mvo: That's what you want if you want to be kernel-free.  Just add your flavour to that case.
[10:25] <infinity> mvo: Or if you want a kernel, specify one there.
[10:26] <mvo> infinity: hm, our flavor is ubuntu-core, but I think I know enough to fix it now, thanks again
[10:26] <infinity> mvo: There's already a system-image sub-case in that case.
[10:26]  * ogra_ wishes the livecd-sh script back ... live-build is such a beast
[10:26] <infinity> mvo: You just didn't add KERNEL_FLAVOURS=generic
[10:26] <ogra_> *livecd.sh
[10:26] <infinity> mvo: (Assuming you want a kernel, which seems to have been your intent)
[10:27] <mvo> infinity: right, I think I did in the PPA but we don't have arm support in the ppa yet, I will use the archive until we get that. (and yes, we want a kenrel :)
[10:27] <mvo> kernel even
[10:28] <infinity> mvo: Anyhow, clean up the cruft in the seeds if you want, but it won't make a difference here, that's all no-ops.
[10:28]  * mvo nds
[10:28]  * mvo nods
[10:34] <infinity> mvo: You might want "add_package install flash-kernel u-boot-tools" too.
[10:35] <mvo> infinity: thanks, I will add that!
[10:35] <infinity> mvo: The armhf case that would naturally follow the amd64 case for grub-pc.
[10:36] <mvo> infinity: right
[10:37] <mvo> infinity: thanks for your help here, my arm experience is still limited, so I'm thankful for those hints
[13:22] <Kano> hi, is there a git for linux-firmware-nonfree?
[13:33] <apw> Kano, do not believe so
[13:33] <Kano> why not
[13:34] <Kano> did you try overlayfs for live?
[13:42] <apw> because the archive is definative for that package
[13:42] <apw> we default to overlayfs for live
[13:43] <Kano> so casper already boots with it?
[13:43] <apw> yes
[13:44] <Kano> where is the git?
[13:44] <apw> for?
[13:44] <Kano> casper
[13:44] <Kano> what to see the changes
[13:44] <apw> i believe that is in bzr, in the udd branches
[13:46] <Kano> ubuntus website is really bad compared to debian, there you see git/svn directly
[13:47] <apw> could be
[13:47] <Kano> i mean the packages.ubuntu.com
[13:49] <Kano> and fully outdated, vivid is not mentioned, utopic not default and if that is the right bzr it has no 1.345
[13:49] <Kano> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/casper/vivid/changes/1144?start_revid=1144
[13:50] <Kano> cant you use git...
[13:50] <apw> not yet
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[19:42] <hallyn> apw: holy cow.  i only just noticed that overlayfs has been merged.  woot
[19:43] <hallyn> stgraber: ^
[19:44] <stgraber> hallyn: oh, I heard about the pull request, didn't realize it was actually accepted this time, nice!
[19:44] <stgraber> now maybe more people will care about making it suck less :)
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[21:41] <apw> stgraber, yep maybe