[04:43] <pitti> Good morning
[04:44] <pitti> dkessel: actually no; it's much easier to run autopilot3-sandbox-run, that does all the setup
[07:08] <dkessel> pitti: OK thanks
[07:52] <pitti> jibel: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#dpkg is weird -- cuneiform has been "in progress" for days, but jenkins is done with it; I retried it two times, and also tried to hand-edit history on snakefruit (doesn't help, always gets reset)
[07:54] <jibel> pitti, looking
[08:01] <pitti> jibel: also, I got autopkgtests under control last week (lots of fun untangling vivid :) ); I think we can re-enable notifications now, but I still don't have access to tachash to do that myself :/
[08:02] <jibel> pitti, okay, I'll do it.
[08:02] <pitti> jibel: merci! (and sorry for pwning you first time in the morning :/)
[08:02] <jibel> pitti, something odd happened with cuneiform, I cannot find any results
[08:03] <jibel> on snakefruit
[08:21] <pitti> jibel: the results look ok to me in the jenkins artifacts; is that something specific to that package, or was there perhaps a glitch on one of the machines?
[08:40] <jibel> pitti, I fixed cuneiform, php-horde-javascriptminify-jsmin, php-horde-text-filter-jsmin and r-cran-surveillance by regerenating fake result files that exactly matches the versions in the state file on snakefruit. But I cannot track the cause of the problem because I cannot find the result files on snakefruit that failed to match originally.
[08:41] <pitti> jibel: argh, thanks!
[08:42] <pitti> I'll look at r-cran-spatstat, that causes havoc (huge logs and failure)
[12:47] <elfy> balloons: any idea when the trackers aren't going to 403? been rather a long time now
[13:23] <knome> elfy, judging on the issue, somebody has to set up the drupal installation as well as the modules again... i'd imagine not a lot of people are comfortable doing that; especially considering there is some customish configuration as well as the data migration to do...
[13:25] <balloons> elfy, it's going to be a bit
[13:28] <knome> lazy IS :P
[13:30]  * balloons is using a desktop pc again for the first time in weeks
[13:38] <knome> heh
[15:23] <elfy> balloons: ty
[16:13] <gQuigs> anyone know how to get the whoopsie identifier for a user from the CL?
[16:13] <gQuigs> you can get it from the gui by going Dash -> Security & Privacy | Diagnostics -> Show Previous Error Reports
[16:13] <gQuigs> (you can get it using C like this- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sosreport/+bug/1319160/comments/2)
[16:38] <balloons> gQuigs, so you want an easy way to grab the id through a simple cli command?
[16:40] <gQuigs> balloons: yup, to collect for a sos report
[16:42] <gQuigs> (collection of logs/config to help debug problems)
[16:43] <balloons> I don't know offhand, but you could ask bdmurray or ev if such a thing existed
[16:58] <bdmurray> gQuigs: see /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id
[16:58] <bdmurray> gQuigs: available starting in utopic
[16:59] <gQuigs> xnox just showed me I can query by dbus as well..
[16:59] <gQuigs> thanks all! :)
[18:49] <wxl> um, packages doesn't have a vivid section. that's not normal either, is it?
[19:01] <balloons> nice.. not yet anyway
[19:01] <wxl> ok :)
[19:10] <elfy> I can't even see it - how do you not it's not got vivid?
[19:10] <wxl> that's what i mean. it's not listed
[19:10] <elfy> mmm
[19:10] <elfy> that's NOT what I mean :)
[19:10] <wxl> what are you saying?
[19:11] <elfy> I mean how do you know what packages has - it's still 403ing here :)
[19:11] <elfy> and it should have at least Xubuntu on it already :)
[19:11] <wxl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/
[19:12] <elfy> ohhh - I just assumed this being the quality channel we'd be talking about the trackers being down still :p
[19:16] <wxl> yeah well there's that too
[19:16] <wxl> i was just surprised and since we had been talking about the tracker previously i didn't know if these were somehow related
[19:17] <balloons> I have a tracker update actually speaking of which
[19:17] <wxl> oh
[19:17]  * wxl claps merrily
[19:17] <balloons> should I tell you elfy before the rest of the list?
[19:17] <elfy> nah
[19:17] <elfy> I can lose the plot anywhere :D
[19:19] <elfy> balloons: so is good news then?
[19:21] <balloons> elfy, you'll have to read the mail
[19:22] <wxl> well
[19:22] <wxl> that's news
[19:23] <elfy> balloons: so in the meantime is anything being done with making the trackers more usable this cycle?
[19:24] <balloons> elfy, there's news on that front also
[19:24]  * balloons pokes dkessel 
[19:26] <balloons> in addition to dkessel's fixes for the code, I'm working on making it charmable so it's easier to deploy
[19:26] <balloons> on top of all of that elfy there's a session at UOS on manual testing; specifically something the canonical QA team is trialing out
[19:27] <wxl> neat
[19:27] <balloons> so lots of chat about next week. Any specific session you'd like to have wxl, elfy or anyone else?
[19:27] <balloons> Need to put together the schedule
[19:28] <wxl> none that i can think of off hand
[19:28] <wxl> i was thinking about doing a general update on lubuntu since we're going through some major changes, but that's not necessarily specifically about quality
[19:28] <balloons> sure.. you should. if possible all flavors should have a general session sharing what's going on imho
[19:29] <wxl> agreed, though sometimes its less exciting than other times :)
[19:30] <elfy> well we (Xubuntu) have tried a few times with UOS/UDS and didn't get very much from it
[19:31] <wxl> elfy: meaning you didn't have many participants?
[19:31] <elfy> no - just didn't work for us - so we don't do it anymore
[19:33] <elfy> balloons: well I can't say whether or not charmable will make any difference to the basic usablility of the trackers
[19:33] <elfy> all I really want to see is that we can get sensible reporting from it
[19:34] <elfy> and would really really like to be able to look at image history without waiting 5 minutes
[19:34] <dkessel> balloons: ouch
[19:36] <balloons> dkessel, :-)
[19:36] <balloons> if I remember correctly we need to land some fixes for the tracker you had prepped
[19:36] <dkessel> Oh yes :)
[19:36] <balloons> elfy, your history bug is something dkessel fixed actually
[19:36] <balloons> just need to test it
[19:37] <dkessel> Yup
[19:39] <elfy> balloons: when is this QA manual session?
[19:39] <elfy> not on the site that I can see
[19:40] <balloons> elfy, I need to schedule it, I was in the middle of it when we started conversering
[19:40] <elfy> aah okey dokey :)
[19:40] <robotfuel> elopio: will you review this simple MP for me?
[19:40] <robotfuel> elopio: https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-bug-1388896/+merge/240496
[19:40]  * balloons has to twist arms (I mean ask people nicely) to host
[19:55] <elopio> robotfuel: I will make it when I finish the meeting.
[20:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[20:08] <elfy> evening Letozaf_
[20:08] <Letozaf_> elfy, evening to you :)
[20:08] <Letozaf_> elfy, howzit ?
[20:08] <elfy> all good thanks :)
[20:08] <elfy> you?
[20:08] <Letozaf_> elfy, fine thanks :)
[20:09] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello
[20:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, is there a way to launch autopilot launch and vis on the device ?
[20:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, I need it for filemanager
[20:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, let's take this to #autopilot
[20:10] <wxl> elfy: stupid question of the day— xubuntu does use lightdm right?
[20:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:10] <elfy> yep
[20:11] <wxl> cool thx
[20:11]  * wxl goes back to triage ._.
[20:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, btw I asked andrea to look at it as well. As we spoke about I think it might be useful to have him work on it with you
[20:11] <balloons> so you can coach him through things
[20:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine I will contact him...
[20:13] <balloons> Letozaf_, doug5 might be here now?
[20:14] <doug5> yep, I'm here. I'm trying to run the test cases
[20:15] <Letozaf_> doug5, ohhh forgot your nik :(
[20:15] <Letozaf_> doug5, hello :-P
[20:15] <doug5> Letozaf_, helloooo :)
[20:16] <elopio> robotfuel: I don't get why are you updating the expected value. I ran your test and got: testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'No interaction allowed' != ''
[20:16] <Letozaf_> doug5, if you have any issued just ask me :-P
[20:16] <elopio> robotfuel: can it be different on the phone?
[20:17] <robotfuel> elopio: thats the .text property
[20:17] <robotfuel> elopio: it's failing on the dashboard for both n4 and krillin, I didn't check the desktop
[20:19] <robotfuel> elopio: http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/mako/117:20141031:20141017.2/11188/ubuntuuitoolkit/1878696/
[20:20] <robotfuel> elopio: the same as the krillin bug report ^
[20:20] <elopio> robotfuel: in these cases, it's useful when you attach the screenshot to the reported bug.
[20:21] <robotfuel> is there an easy way to get the screenshot from the subunit file?
[20:21] <robotfuel> elopio: ^
[20:21] <elopio> robotfuel: install trv. There is a link to the instructions on the blueprint.
[20:21] <elopio> hum, wait, I think you can't extract it yet.
[20:22] <elopio> you can take a screenshot of trv, or use subunitdetails.
[20:22] <elopio> https://github.com/cgoldberg/subunitdetails
[20:34] <robotfuel> elopio: it has a screenshot now
[20:38] <elopio> thanks robotfuel. That is different on vivid desktop. I would ask zsombi or timp, but it's already late for them.
[20:39] <elopio> robotfuel: please remember to link the things to the blueprint and use the tags.
[20:39] <elopio> that's how others can find if somebody is already working on failures.
[20:40] <robotfuel> elopio: I linked the bug in the blueprint. I didn't know about the tags
[20:40] <robotfuel> elopio: I see it now though so I will update
[20:40] <elopio> right, I was looking at a different place.
[20:40] <elopio> thanks man.
[20:42] <balloons> doug5, so Letozaf_ and I are chatting about getting fm going in #ubuntu-autopilot, heh. You'll need to build the app after your check it out as well
[20:42] <robotfuel> elopio: I see I can link both branches and bugs.. so I did that
[20:42] <elopio> robotfuel: yes, thanks
[20:42] <balloons> so bzr branch lp:ubuntu-filemanager-app, cd ubuntu-filemanager-app, cmake ., make, cd test/autopilot, autopilot3 list filemanager, autopilot3 run -v filemanager.
[20:43] <balloons> provided you have all the depends, that should work. you can install what is needed by looking in debian/control
[20:43] <doug5> building...
[20:44]  * Letozaf_ is building too :P
[20:44] <balloons> Letozaf_, also noticed there are 2 UI layouts. you can pass -p to get the phone layout, and -t to get tablet
[20:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, great thanks
[20:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, is it autopilot3 launch -i Qt qmlscene ../../src/app/qml/filemanager.qml -p  ?
[20:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, from tests/autopilot ?
[20:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, because I get an error
[20:48] <Letozaf_> no wait...
[20:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, do I have to launch the binary and not the qml ?
[20:49] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep, launch the binary
[20:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, so is it  autopilot3 launch ../../src/app/filemanager ? as I still got problems
[20:52] <Letozaf_> ile:///home/letozaf/autopilot-tests/ubuntu-filemanager-app/src/app/qml/filemanager.qml:147:9: Type FolderListPage unavailable
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, that sounds betteryes
[20:53] <balloons> Letozaf_, btw, feel free to update the readme with this info when you commit :-)
[20:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok :) but look here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808105/
[20:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, I just tried also. I'm sure I got the same errors as you
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, fiew!
[20:54]  * Letozaf_ is feeling a bit better :P
[20:55]  * balloons tries something
[20:56] <doug5> I guess I miss some dependencies instead http://paste.ubuntu.com/8808127/
[20:56] <balloons> doug5, yes.. qtdeclarative5-placesmodel0.1, and qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel,
[20:57] <balloons> the full  list is qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel qtdeclarative5-placesmodel0.1 qtdeclarative5-pamauthentication0.1 qtdeclarative5-qtquick2-plugin qtdeclarative5-u1db1.0 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-content0.1
[20:59] <doug5> do I have to setup a specific ppa?
[21:01] <balloons> doug5, are you on utopic or trusty?
[21:02] <doug5> utopic
[21:03] <balloons> doug5, Letozaf_ the dev is on IRC as ajalkane. I'm confused why the app doesn't seem to build cleanly in qtcreator, and what Letozaf_ and I are missing
[21:04] <balloons> doug5, k that's good. Do some of those depends come back as missing for you?
[21:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I will follow your chat with ajalkane
[21:06] <doug5> balloons, yes qtdeclarative5-placesmodel0.1 for example
[21:06] <balloons> doug5, that's built inside the project.
[21:07] <balloons> I'm curious if the project itself needs some cleanup on depends.. the pamauth plugin is in project too
[21:07] <balloons> as is the folderlistmodel plugin
[21:07] <balloons> Sorry about this. I just messed with these tests a few weeks ago. I thought it would be a good thing to practice
[21:08] <balloons> I'm not sure how building got some confusing
[21:08] <balloons> *so confusing
[21:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, no problem, we are testers, so we are used to these things :--P
[21:12] <balloons> Letozaf_, I removed local versions of the depends as he suggested
[21:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, is it working now ?
[21:13] <balloons> Letozaf_, now I get what doug5 is seeing
[21:18] <Letozaf_> balloons, by the way I am on Vivid but I suppose it's not so different from Utopic
[21:18] <balloons> Letozaf_, ahh right, more or less the same atm
[21:20] <balloons> so Letozaf_ doug5 I built it by using qtcreator after downloading, then running the binary in the build directory
[21:20] <balloons> it builds out of tree
[21:20] <doug5> ok, let me try
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, so I will have to use qtcreator and not cmake and make right ?
[21:22] <balloons> I opened the cmakelists.txt file and I had to select desktop
[21:22] <balloons> Letozaf_, yea for now, something is off with doing it any other way
[21:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, means I will have to learn to use qtcreator :P
[21:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, lol, it's pretty painless to just build with
[21:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, :)
[21:23] <balloons> the tests seem to work and run also.. whew
[21:24] <doug5> balloons, how did you run the tests inside the build directory?
[21:24] <balloons> doug5, i didn't. I went to the dir I branched in
[21:24] <balloons> the tests are setup to look for the out of tree build
[21:25] <balloons> so it expects a binary out there
[21:25] <balloons> whew, ok funzies
[21:26]  * Letozaf_ is building with qtcreator  \o/
[21:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I built it. but now should I run autopilot3 launch filemanager or what ?
[21:30] <balloons> Letozaf_, yep that should work now
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes its working
[21:30] <balloons> so doug5 Letozaf_ is using autopilot vis to explore the dbus tree of the application
[21:30] <Letozaf_> balloons, but I suppose the -p does not work
[21:39] <balloons> Letozaf_, yea, asking ajaklane about it
[21:40] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok thanks
[21:41] <doug6> balloons, see you tomorrow
[21:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, I might go to bed now... do you mind if I come back tomorrow on this ?
[21:56] <elopio> nuclearbob: can you please give me the link to app startup tests?
[21:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, see you tomorrow :) going to bed, goodnight.
[22:12] <balloons> *.qa.ubuntu.com is live again
[22:13] <dkessel> \o/
[22:14] <wxl> email forthcoming i'm assuming balloons ?
[22:14] <dkessel> and so fast.... :)
[22:15] <balloons> yep