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mapmorning05:39
Myrttimoin07:10
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:19
diploMorning all08:29
brobostigonmorning diplo08:29
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MooDoomorning all10:05
zmoylan-pigreetings mammals10:08
popeyWord.10:08
* Myrtti prods Google Play10:10
Myrttiship it, damnit10:10
DJones!shipit10:14
lubotu3Canonical is no longer sending free Ubuntu CDs to individuals through its ShipIt program.  For more information please see http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551 !LoCo teams can request CDs through this link https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/10:14
MooDooMyrtti: you need some cds?10:16
zmoylan-picd's/dvd's/wrist watches? :-p10:16
MyrttiMooDoo: no, just the Nexus 910:16
DJonesMooDoo: I doubt it, was me using the shipit factoid because she's waiting for a delivery10:16
DJonesYay, microsd cards ordered for phones & tablets10:18
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MooDooah10:22
czajkowskialoha10:22
MooDoohowdy czajkowski10:25
MartijnV1S\o/ new dinner table lights10:26
MartijnV1SThanks, IKEA10:26
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czajkowskihows folks10:27
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Cliché Day! :-D10:35
zmoylan-pihalloween is over and the crimbo shopping frenzy has begun...10:35
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, not in this house it hasn't - the birthday panic has taken over.10:47
zmoylan-pian amazon gift card... :-p10:47
MartijnVdSa pre-paid VISA card10:52
zmoylan-pinothing says you care like money :-p10:53
davmor2JamesTait: Time will tell if this a day full of clichés or not11:45
MooDoodavmor2: today is full on fail11:46
foobarrydoes deleting a video from my phone gallery also delete it from g+ auto backup?11:47
davmor2MooDoo: Touché11:47
BigRedSfoobarry: not IME11:50
foobarryBigRedS: within the photos app it warns that it will delete everywhere12:00
zmoylan-pithe nsa will keep a copy :-p12:00
SuperEngineerzmoylan-pi, "FBI secretly seek legal power to hack any computer, anywhere. Don't you feel safer already?"12:03
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)12:03
BigRedSfoobarry: ooh, odd. I've not seen that warning, and I'm sure I've had photos I deleted still be on the g+ backup thing12:03
zmoylan-piwhen i see a dozen processes hogging ram on a computer i just hope that at least 1 is working FOR me :-)12:03
SuperEngineer;)12:04
funkyHatI think it does from the google+ photos app, but if you delete from another gallery app on your phone then g+ will keep the backup12:15
funkyHatBut yeah, certain definitions of delete and all that.12:15
davmor2SuperEngineer: Yes I feel safe if they want access to my machine they are welcome, they will of course get very bored very quickly give in and move onto the next machine there are only so many isos and images of ubuntu that even the FBI would want to look at :)13:12
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TwistedLucidityIf the FBI hack my computer I will consider that an act of breaking and entering. I will respond with all force necessary to defend myself. i.e. I might sent a barbed tweet or something....13:19
TwistedLucidityIt's a sick sad world when the police are seeking permission to become criminals.13:19
TwistedLucidityWell...seeking to get things they have already done rubber-stamped as "Ok"13:20
Myrttimeh. get-iplayer is broken :-|13:22
Azelphurdavmor2: I wouldn't want some random FBI employee of dubious morals with access to all my money13:23
Azelphurfuck that13:23
Azelphuroops, bad language for this channel13:23
TwistedLucidityMyrtti: Yes, the BBC changed the interface. The URLs still work and need plugged in maunally for the moment. I've heard tell a fix is in the pipeline (probably site scraping).13:32
TwistedLucidityKinda sucks.13:32
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popeyMyrtti: already fixed upstream13:33
popeyhttps://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/releases13:33
foobarryhttp://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.londonlibraries.gov.uk13:39
foobarryfail.13:39
foobarrytheir systems are always down13:40
popeyfine here13:41
popeydown4everyone says it's down, but it works13:41
foobarrydown her13:44
foobarrye13:44
zmoylan-pireddit went down for me for 2-3 mins.  something to do with dns thingy?13:44
foobarryits been down all day, maybe a routuing thing then13:44
foobarrytraceroute fails after 86.188.224.9213:45
MyrttiI suppose I'll have to compile it myself.13:56
BigRedSI don't think that's how reddit works13:57
BigRedS:)13:57
popeyits perl, I don't think there's any compiling to do is there?13:59
BigRedSoh, get_iplayer? I thought that 'only' broke because they turned off the rss? So rewriting more than recompiling14:00
bigcalmI haven't touched get_iplayer for so many years now. It's just worked for the programmes I want to listen to. Wonder if I should update or not14:00
davmor2Azelphur: no why on earth not,  the first time they abuse the system the system will rebel against them and then it all gets shut down :)  They couldn't afford the lawsuits14:01
popeyi just extracted the get_iplayer script from the zip file and put it in ~/bin14:01
popeyworks for me14:01
Azelphurdavmor2: you mean like all the other times they've abused the system and absolutely nothing has happened14:01
BigRedSI think a simple --get --pid works, but apparently the smarter stuff doesn't because that was dependent upon RSS feeds14:02
popeyyeah14:02
davmor2Azelphur: people care about their money though and Americans Sue at the drop of a hat14:03
Azelphurdavmor2: nobody has taken it anywhere, even when it got to the corporate espionage the NSA are involved in.14:04
Azelphurthey can and do routinely steal money, private data, etc from companies and private individuals, and very little is actually done to prevent it14:04
Azelphursame goes for bank employees too14:05
Azelphuralthough bank employees at least tend to get caught eventually14:05
Azelphurassuming they aren't too high up the food chain14:06
foobarryZZ14:09
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TwistedLucidityAzelphur: Once you have enough money, you can buy the justice (and tax regualtions) you think you deserve.14:15
Azelphurindeed14:15
Azelphurmostly I was just pointing out that people shouldn't have the "I don't care if they look at my stuff" attitude14:16
bigcalmUpdating fa7d46f..3e1f09d14:17
andycbots14:19
andycoops just opened xchat and this channel popped up, as you were14:19
bigcalmpopey: do you have rtmpdump installed?14:27
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bigcalmI'm sure I shouldn't be spending my afternoon trying to fix the dependancies on my server so that I can update packages14:37
popeyi do14:49
maphi all14:51
mapso tired ;[14:53
bigcalmYay, programmes are downloading again14:57
mapyay14:58
mapon what14:58
TwistedLucidityget_iplayer15:05
* TwistedLucidity assumes15:05
SuperEngineermap - the clue was in "programmes" rather than programs ;)15:05
davmor2SuperEngineer: oh he is getting football leaflets15:06
map=]15:07
SuperEngineer:D15:07
mapi might go to a soccer ball mach tonight15:07
mapnot decided15:07
SuperEngineer[what's football]... The program 'football' is currently not installed.15:08
SuperEngineer;)15:08
mapheh15:09
mapfree entry is only reason id consider it15:09
TwistedLucidityThe program 'football' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:15:10
TwistedLuciditysudo apt-get install sgb15:10
SuperEngineeryeah... saw that - resisted the tempation though15:10
davmor2Well it could be a Show or Opera Leaflet I suppose if you don't like the thought of it being football :P15:12
SuperEngineeror the promme for the upcoming Led Zeppelin reunion15:13
* SuperEngineer imagine various [fruitless] searches going on right now ;)15:15
davmor2SuperEngineer: Shouldn't be too hard, they already know a woman who bought a stairway to heaven right?15:18
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SuperEngineerdavmor2,  no.  she's still "buying a stairway to heaven" last I heard15:30
SuperEngineer[perhaps "she" should try Kickstarter!]  ;)15:31
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MooDoois she from the darkest depths of mordor?15:32
SuperEngineerno, we wouldn't let her in - you should have the insults!15:33
SuperEngineer...all the talk was "buy this, buy that, buy a carpet, buy a stairway to heaven".... we're only here for the peace & quiet!15:35
SuperEngineerWhat's SMPlayer for Youtube is really for - downloading Jono Bacon's "Dealing With Disrespect"15:53
SuperEngineer[next instalment - translating bad grammar on IRC]  ;)15:54
* SuperEngineer refers to self there15:54
Myrtti\o/ They've shipped it \o/16:11
vad3rman1156stupid question, where is aldeshot in the uk?16:38
foobarryroughly?16:38
vad3rman1156aldershot*16:38
vad3rman1156yeah16:38
foobarrysurrey, nr guildford/woking/farnham16:38
foobarryarmy town16:38
vad3rman1156hmm my tab s is there16:38
Myrttiat 8.30 o'clock if London is the centre16:39
vad3rman1156Myrtti: ?16:39
Myrttior 7.3016:39
vad3rman1156huh?16:39
davmor2vad3rman1156: maps.google.com maybe16:39
vad3rman1156google won't load :/16:40
Myrttivad3rman1156: put london in the middle, then smack an analogue watch face on it. Zoom out, you'll see Aldershot in the lower left quadrant of that watch face.16:40
Myrttiie. south west from Londond.16:41
Myrtti-d16:41
popeyvad3rman1156: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/269754#map=17/51.24650/-0.7606116:41
vad3rman1156oh thanks16:42
bigcalmDoes this read well? "I believe that it is Lyndsey John with whom this matter should be discussed."16:49
bigcalmOr even correctly?16:50
foobarrysort of16:51
foobarryi would probably word it differently16:51
foobarrymore directly16:51
bigcalmI don't know if it's that lady that the matter should be discussed with16:52
foobarrythen... I believe Lyndsey John may be the person to contact regarding this matter?16:52
vad3rman1156^much better16:52
bigcalmFair enough, ta16:53
bigcalmI've cc'd her, just in case :)16:54
Myrtti"oops" http://gizmodo.com/report-a-flaw-in-visas-contactless-card-lets-anyone-ch-165397443216:55
bigcalmYay16:55
bigcalmSo glad I don't have any such cards16:55
MyrttiI don't either, but I already have a purse that blocks it16:58
Myrttihttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JCCD0SG16:58
zmoylan-pijust a standard lead lining would deal with skimming wireless cards and a few unwitting muggers :-)16:59
DJonesStrange, just booted into my bios, according to that my laptop has something akin to Herpes, Direct quote from bios "Windows Licence - STD", may just be me, but "STD" has a pretty obvious and unwelcome association17:28
zmoylan-pimaybe you have symantec antivirus installed? :-)17:29
DJonesIn bios?17:30
zmoylan-pii wouldn't trust symantec at all these days :-p17:30
SuperEngineerSymantec Transmitted Disease???17:33
SuperEngineerhttp://fabsh.com/last-stand/  [sad news]17:43
zmoylan-pijust popped into #sixgun for first time in a year, down to 50 folk17:44
SuperEngineer563 actually - & I'm proud to be one of those17:45
SuperEngineerwhoops [meant to type 53]17:46
SuperEngineer[wishful thinking17:46
SuperEngineerhttp://danlynch.org/blog/2014/11/nothing-lasts-forever/17:48
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bigcalmhttp://imgur.com/gallery/Pa3gL20:50
popeyhmm, i expected photos of an ikea bookshelf unit20:52
bigcalmpopey: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/isi4g7zvw2fdci6/AABwuTh1A8MvvP-soezjCAvZa21:03
bigcalmpopey: just erected21:03
popeynice floor21:03
popeyi spy virgin cable connection21:04
bigcalmYou spy correctly21:04
bigcalmFloor is okay, I prefer carpets. At least we have a nice rug now21:04
daftykins:D21:07
daftykinsyeah i've taken to permanently wearing socks to combat wooden floor and tiled cold21:07
bigcalmWe wear slippers at home21:07
daftykinsnever been a fan personally :)21:09
Myrttirugs > carpets21:10
directhexEXPEDIT!21:16
directhexthey don't do those anymore.21:17
popeyyeah, i have 3 pairs of slippers I never wear21:21
daftykinspopey: in-laws christmas presents? :D21:22
popeyheh21:23
popeyone of them, yes21:24
popeyI tend to be barefoot or socks (if I remember to put them on) around the house21:24
zmoylan-pisome sort of tux slippers perhaps? :-)21:26
popeynope ☻21:26
bigcalmHayley has a foot phobia, so sockless if not an option21:27
popeywat wat21:29
bigcalmIn the ...21:29
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bigcalmTime to shop at Tesco :D21:40
popeywe just did that21:41
popey\o/ online shopping21:41
bigcalmWorking from home means going shopping is a chance to escape21:42
popeyhaha21:42
bigcalmLets try not to buy any doughnuts this time21:43
popeymmmm forbidden doughnuts21:44
popeyhttp://drool.popey.com/21:44
czajkowskihttp://www.lczajkowski.com/2014/11/03/new-challenges-and-adventure-awaits/  \o/21:54
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zmoylan-pitescos do a nice custard donut22:02
daftykinsczajkowski: good luck in the new role, ma'am22:03
zmoylan-picongrats czajkowski22:05
czajkowskithanks22:06
czajkowskipopey: oh was that me ?22:06
popeyhehe, no ☻22:07
czajkowskipopey: what new laptop have you gone with ?22:13
czajkowskisee if you can save me time doing research :)22:13
popeyczajkowski: I haven't yet.22:13
czajkowskibah22:13
czajkowskioh could get a XPS 13 direct fro dell with Ubuntu on it22:14
daftykinsDo Dell refer to 14.04 now?22:17
popeyi think the xps13 still ships with 12.0422:18
popeyczajkowski: yeah, that machine is on my list22:18
czajkowski12.0422:18
czajkowskiaye22:18
daftykinsugh22:18
popeyalso the thinkpad t440s is also on the list22:18
popeythe touch one22:19
popeyhttp://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t440s/22:19
daftykinsmy problem with Lenovo is their whitelisting of wifi cards and so on :(22:19
daftykinsbut then you just make sure you get a good one to start with ;)22:19
popeyi can see why they do it22:20
popeysilly regulations22:20
daftykinshow's that?22:20
popeythey get the entire device fcc certified22:21
popeydevice + antenna22:21
popeynot just the device22:21
popeythe theory being they assure it's fcc certified if approved wifi device is used with matched antennal22:21
popey-l22:21
daftykins*nod*22:22
daftykinspopey: this old macbook i mentioned, did you say you know of someone running ubuntu on such a device? curious how they might overcome the touchpad woes22:22
popeyno, he runs osx22:22
daftykinsah ok22:22
popeyan aged black macbook22:22
daftykins:D22:22
popeyvery cool looking device, i can see why he keeps it22:23
daftykinsthey seem pretty darn sturdy22:23
popeyyeah22:23
popeyi want thinkpad guts inside one of those cases22:23
brobostigonpowerpc or x86?22:24
daftykinsyou may want to mute this one https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvehuk00lweboou/VID_20141031_212154.mp4?dl=022:24
daftykinsa notification came in whilst i was recording XD22:24
popeypretty22:24
daftykinsbrobostigon: x86, intel macs22:24
brobostigondaftykins: ah, i see22:25
daftykinsthat's 14.04 booting on an SSD in a late 2007 core 2 duo macbook22:25
popeypretty quick to login screen22:25
daftykinsyeah :) it's a pretty rubbish SSD too22:25
popeyheh22:25
daftykinssome sandisk that came out of a friends samsung 9 series ultrabook22:25
daftykinsooh more heavy rain22:26
daftykinsshame £90 for a battery and £50 for a mains adapter kind of makes it not worth fixing up22:26
czajkowskipopey: any idea on battery life for the Xps?22:29
popeydunno, ask laura cowen, she has one22:29
czajkowskiah good to know22:29
czajkowskireally do not want a mac22:29
popeyheh22:31
* brobostigon says "blaspheme" in a dalek like voice.22:33
daftykinsjudging by the macbook, it looks difficult to get a keyboard map that the keyboard properly matches22:33
daftykinsso sticking to OS X seems easiest, which i detest :)22:34
brobostigontry darwin, or netbsd, :)22:34
daftykinsnaaaah i doubt one could get anything done with those22:35
brobostigonwhy? both run normal sw, xorg, etc, why not.22:35
daftykinsi don't run desktop Linux at all.22:35
daftykinson my daily drivers, that is22:36
brobostigoni spend half my days in haiku now.22:36
czajkowskiohh Karen Gillian is on a new show. first I've seen of her since Doctor Who22:37
brobostigononly things i really used debian for now, are SL, MC and openoffice.22:37
brobostigonuse*22:37
brobostigonincluding on servers and rpi.22:37
brobostigonand ubuntu server, also.22:38
brobostigonhowever in theory haiku could run MC, as it does have a stable port of openjdk.22:39
BigRedSAh, I was just wondering what MC was. I assumed it wasn't midnight commander :) Minecraft, presumably?22:40
brobostigonyes, minecraft22:40
brobostigonalthough, they do have a midnight commander port.22:41
directhexbrobostigon, but does it have a stable port of lwjgl?22:43
brobostigondirecthex: i do not know, not that i have seen.22:43
daftykinson a completely off topic note, has anyone noticed vodafone getting worse and worse in the UK for mobile phone reception?23:07
daftykinsa client has a business contract and seems to be getting ever decreasing quality of service from vodafone23:08
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popeyBED TIME!23:33
shaunobut muuuuum23:34
popeyI doubt jaiku will run minecraft23:34
popeythere's platform specific binary chunks23:34

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