| cmaloney | we're going to start the meeting in 8 minutes | 01:52 |
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| cmaloney | Assuming anyone decides to show up. :) | 01:53 |
| jrwren | i've been waiting. | 01:57 |
| cmaloney | heh | 02:00 |
| jsjgruber-xt | Hi, everyone | 02:00 |
| cmaloney | Welcome to the Nov. meeting | 02:00 |
| jrwren | hi. | 02:00 |
| cmaloney | The meeting notes are available here: | 02:00 |
| cmaloney | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/766/detail/ | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | Unfortunately I didn't get around to putting on the meeting agenda items | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | So bear with me ,and if there's something you'd like to discuss please let me know | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | first up | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | Release party | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | Apparently Ubuntu 14.10 was released last week | 02:02 |
| cmaloney | woot. | 02:02 |
| jrwren | i can confirm that it was. | 02:02 |
| cmaloney | So as is custom locos from around the world are having release parties. | 02:02 |
| cmaloney | Frankly, it kind of blew past me as I was prepping for Ohio Linuxfest | 02:03 |
| cmaloney | which we'll get to in a sec. | 02:03 |
| cmaloney | but since there was a release I'll open it up to the floor: does anyone want to have a release party | 02:03 |
| cmaloney | and the bear-trap part: would anyone like to organize said party? :) | 02:04 |
| waldo323 | I missed the release too | 02:06 |
| cmaloney | I'm content with not having a party as it seems if they're not associated with a larger event like Penguicon that we get fewer folks attending | 02:06 |
| jsjgruber-xt | I don't mind driving up to the Fall ones, but it would be tough for me to organize one from here in Bowling Green | 02:07 |
| cmaloney | jsjgruber-xt: Yeah, we'd have to meet at the Wendy's. :) | 02:07 |
| jsjgruber-xt | Yep | 02:07 |
| cmaloney | (sorry, it's kind of a tradition for J and I to stop at that Wendy's whenever we drive through Ohio) | 02:08 |
| cmaloney | So, if anyone would like to orgainze a party please let us know | 02:08 |
| cmaloney | either via the email list or in channel | 02:09 |
| cmaloney | Whichever you prefer. | 02:09 |
| cmaloney | any further comments or questions? | 02:09 |
| waldo323 | We could invite everyone to come to the mug meeting which is already somewhat of a party | 02:09 |
| cmaloney | waldo323: I think the usual suspects that show up to the release party are the same folks who might show up to the Nov. MUG meeting | 02:10 |
| cmaloney | which is at Buddy's this month | 02:10 |
| cmaloney | Nov. 11th | 02:10 |
| cmaloney | More info at http://mug.org | 02:10 |
| cmaloney | (Brought to you by the folks who are trying to pump up attendence) | 02:11 |
| waldo323 | True | 02:11 |
| jsjgruber-xt | It's a great group of people | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | Anywho... | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | jsjgruber-xt: Some of the finest. :) | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | OK, next topic: OLF recap | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | Managed to make it out to OLF this past weekend | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | The lack of Ubuntu presence there was palpable | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | No Ubuntu booth, lots of Oracle and Red Hat. | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | and Fedora, and even BSD. | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | not sure if this is something to be concerned about but something to keep in mind | 02:15 |
| cmaloney | I know the Ohio loco looked into booths and found them expensive | 02:15 |
| cmaloney | So not sure if there's a way to fix this outright without some more up-front money | 02:15 |
| cmaloney | PyOhio and the FSF had booths there. | 02:16 |
| cmaloney | But basically most of the talks I went to had a heavy MySQL or Fedora bent to them | 02:16 |
| cmaloney | (Oh, and Raspberry Pi) | 02:16 |
| cmaloney | I think that might be because I tried hitting a lot of high-availability talks | 02:17 |
| cmaloney | Anyone else make it out to OLF? | 02:17 |
| jsjgruber-xt | Couldn't make it | 02:17 |
| * waldo323 also couldn't make it | 02:18 | |
| cmaloney | Yeah, Michigan was definitely in short-supply down there. :) | 02:18 |
| cmaloney | The SMLR folks were there. | 02:19 |
| cmaloney | as was Kevin O'Brien | 02:19 |
| jsjgruber-xt | SMLR ??? | 02:19 |
| cmaloney | Saturday Morning Linux Review | 02:19 |
| cmaloney | Anywho, I think there's room for improvement in Ubuntu participation at Ohio Linuxfest | 02:20 |
| cmaloney | Any questions or comments? | 02:22 |
| waldo323 | Not at this time | 02:23 |
| cmaloney | OK, final segment | 02:23 |
| cmaloney | I've been considering stepping down from the contact role for the group for a few months now | 02:23 |
| cmaloney | so I'd like to make it official. :) | 02:23 |
| cmaloney | I'd like to step down from the contact role for the group and go to whatever emeretus role former contacts go. :) | 02:24 |
| cmaloney | I won't do it until we get someone who is willing to take the reigns | 02:24 |
| cmaloney | But I'm starting to notice my energy waning and my enthusiasm hitting "meh" levels | 02:25 |
| cmaloney | I'm still planning on being active with the group but would like someone with more enthusiasm / excitement / energy take over for a while. | 02:25 |
| cmaloney | I think there's still a lot of potential for Ubuntu and the Loco out there | 02:26 |
| cmaloney | and I'd like to play more of a supporting role for our group. :) | 02:27 |
| cmaloney | Duties include: | 02:27 |
| cmaloney | 1) Being the point of contact for the group | 02:27 |
| cmaloney | 2) is active in, and part of, their LoCo Team. He or she is visible and accessible. | 02:27 |
| cmaloney | might want to follow the ubuntu-devel, ubuntu-announce, and/or ubuntu-news mailing lists. | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | heck, here's the low-down | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamContact | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | If this is you then I'd like to talk. | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | One other role is helping the group to maintain its official status which expires Nov 2015 | 02:30 |
| cmaloney | So you'll have a year to make things awesome for the renewal. :) | 02:30 |
| cmaloney | You can contact me off-channel if you'd like | 02:31 |
| cmaloney | Any questions? | 02:32 |
| cmaloney | I'll post this to the list as well | 02:33 |
| waldo323 | Not right now :) | 02:33 |
| jsjgruber-xt | Not for me | 02:33 |
| waldo323 | That's a good idea | 02:33 |
| cmaloney | OK, that's all I have at the moment | 02:33 |
| cmaloney | anyone have anything they'd like to add to the meeting? | 02:34 |
| cmaloney | other than seasoning. :) | 02:34 |
| waldo323 | Like salt | 02:34 |
| cmaloney | yep | 02:34 |
| waldo323 | Or a hash | 02:35 |
| waldo323 | That doesn't fit as well :-/ | 02:35 |
| jsjgruber-xt | Thanks, Craig. | 02:36 |
| cmaloney | Not particularly. :) | 02:36 |
| cmaloney | Thank you all for coming out! | 02:36 |
| waldo323 | Thank you for leading | 02:37 |
| cmaloney | np. Hope someone else will come along. :) | 02:38 |
| cmaloney | morning | 11:17 |
| brousch | I slept through the meeting. Sorry | 12:00 |
| brousch | You cannot step down unless you move out of state | 12:00 |
| wolfger | morning | 12:11 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Then we continue an unsustainable trajectory toward oblivion. :) | 12:21 |
| brousch | Does anyone have actual enthusiasm for Ubuntu? | 12:35 |
| wolfger | Good question. | 12:40 |
| brousch | cmaloney: What happens if we lose official status? | 12:41 |
| brousch | Hm, I won my first 2 ladder games against 29ks | 13:12 |
| mrgoodcat | brousch: i have enthusiasm towards linux and by extension ubuntu | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | does that count? | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | also, this game is over from what i can see | 13:16 |
| mrgoodcat | you are already winning and I can't see any way I can gain territory, only lose it | 13:16 |
| brousch | It does not feel like a win | 13:16 |
| mrgoodcat | lol well we can finish anyways | 13:17 |
| mrgoodcat | but counting territory, you're winning right now | 13:17 |
| brousch | Right, but it feels more like I escaped by the skin of my teeth | 13:17 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 13:18 |
| brousch | These last 2 games with you show that I really need to think about fortifying my open spaces better | 13:21 |
| mrgoodcat | lets just keep going | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | for the practice if nothing else | 13:25 |
| mrgoodcat | actually no. there is no way for me to improve my situation. good job. your structure is huge and has eyes | 13:28 |
| brousch | OK | 13:28 |
| brousch | Mine is good, your right structure is quite open | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | literally every white stone is invincible | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | you win | 13:28 |
| brousch | That's because you poked into every crevice of my side and made me fortify them all :P | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | i passed | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | reddit and hacker news down.... how am i supposed to pass my time at work? | 13:30 |
| brousch | working? | 13:30 |
| mrgoodcat | lol you're funny | 13:30 |
| mrgoodcat | but really i was joking | 13:30 |
| brousch | I guess the normal criteria for passing is if you cannot improve your position, you should pass | 13:31 |
| brousch | Ah, I defeated a 26k | 13:31 |
| brousch | I should bump up my rating | 13:32 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm going to join the ladders i guess | 13:32 |
| brousch | You would have won if I hadn't gotten into that bottom section | 13:33 |
| mrgoodcat | yep | 13:34 |
| mrgoodcat | full size board this time? | 13:35 |
| brousch | Sure | 13:35 |
| brousch | Hm, it won't let me adjust my rating. I guess it does it automatically after you've played a lot of rated games | 13:36 |
| mrgoodcat | hmm | 13:37 |
| cmaloney | brousch: If we lose official status we don't get DVDs and other "perks" | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | though I think it's more difficult for new teams to get official status than for older teams to lose official status | 13:55 |
| brousch | I don't want DVDs. they just sit in my office and take up space | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | yeah, same here | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | I'm trying to get rid of the 14.04 discs. :) | 13:56 |
| brousch | I can't remember the last time I installed from CD. It's always USB these days | 13:57 |
| brousch | Does a box of DVDs cost the same as a 4GB USB stick? | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | Not sure | 14:06 |
| cmaloney | I think USB sticks are more expensive than a single DVD though | 14:06 |
| jrwren | 14.04 is LTS, some folks may still prefer them to 14.10 | 14:11 |
| mrgoodcat | especially server folks | 14:11 |
| mrgoodcat | we appear to be twisting around each other | 14:28 |
| brousch | I had a similar game recently | 14:29 |
| brousch | I'll bet there's some Japanese term for it | 14:30 |
| mrgoodcat | probably | 14:31 |
| mrgoodcat | some super short word that's incredibly descriptive | 14:32 |
| brousch | Translates to "lover's embrace" or "snakes entangled" | 14:33 |
| mrgoodcat | i've been looking at sequences of moves in professional games, and one thing i noticed is that they almost never play a single battle at a time the way we do | 14:38 |
| mrgoodcat | 5 moves in one area of the board appears to be the max | 14:38 |
| mrgoodcat | i wonder why | 14:38 |
| brousch | I think they mostly sort out a battle, then go somewhere else to be annoying, knowing they will eventually approach that old battle from a different direction | 14:40 |
| brousch | So the "winner" of the battle can clean it up, but that gives the opponent time to establish himself in some other place | 14:41 |
| brousch | Or maybe they are playing out 20 moves ahead | 14:41 |
| brousch | mrgoodcat: exactly :P | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | good job | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | didn't see that coming | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | i actually convinced myself i was ahead there | 14:53 |
| brousch | Those twisty ones are hard | 14:53 |
| brousch | You were 1 stone from winning it. I was scared for a while | 14:54 |
| brousch | It's still not done. You have a nice base above it | 14:55 |
| brousch | I think the pros move on after only a few moves because they can tell who has the advantage much sooner than we can. | 14:59 |
| mrgoodcat | but sometimes its like 1 or 2 moves | 15:09 |
| mrgoodcat | i think they just develop more of the board at the same time. it's possible that it's actually a bad idea to leave parts of the board alone for large segments of time. idk i'm just spitballing | 15:10 |
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| mrgoodcat | lol brousch ignore the message in that one. somehow i got my vimium keys mixed up and pasted the text from an article about signal queueing | 15:15 |
| brousch | I thought this was some new strategy to distract me | 15:15 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Nice. :) | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | https://github.com/christoomey/vim-tmux-navigator | 15:47 |
| cmaloney | This will come in handy whenver I'm running tmux and want to swap between different vim sessions | 16:00 |
| brousch | Hm, the hardware for this sounds exactly like the Acer Iconia W4 I ordered http://linuxgizmos.com/atom-based-ubuntu-touch-tablet-specs-leaked/ | 19:26 |
| greg-g | holy, Tom from CarTalk died :( :( | 19:44 |
| jrwren | omg! | 19:44 |
| jrwren | that is so sad. | 19:44 |
| _stink_ | D: | 20:08 |
| _stink_ | woah i didn't realize they were that old | 20:09 |
| _stink_ | well Tom at least | 20:09 |
| mrgoodcat | that's too bad | 20:13 |
| mrgoodcat | my dad used to listen to car talk a lot | 20:13 |
| greg-g | it was my favorite part of our drives down to St Louis on (some) Saturdays | 20:51 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, they went off the air a while ago | 20:59 |
| cmaloney | What... the... Fsck... http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/11/03/filevault_2_mac_users_unsaved_files_and_screenshots_are_automatically_uploaded.html | 21:10 |
| greg-g | "but these files are being stored on the Cloud instead" lost respect in the reporter/their editors right there | 21:17 |
| jrwren | greg-g: why? "on" instead of "in"? upper cased "cloud" ? | 21:17 |
| brousch | Everyone knows you store in the cloud, not on it. That's just silly. | 21:18 |
| greg-g | wboth | 21:18 |
| greg-g | -w | 21:18 |
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