[01:52] we're going to start the meeting in 8 minutes [01:53] Assuming anyone decides to show up. :) [01:57] i've been waiting. [02:00] heh [02:00] Hi, everyone [02:00] Welcome to the Nov. meeting [02:00] hi. [02:00] The meeting notes are available here: [02:01] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/766/detail/ [02:01] Unfortunately I didn't get around to putting on the meeting agenda items [02:01] So bear with me ,and if there's something you'd like to discuss please let me know [02:01] first up [02:01] Release party [02:02] Apparently Ubuntu 14.10 was released last week [02:02] woot. [02:02] i can confirm that it was. [02:02] So as is custom locos from around the world are having release parties. [02:03] Frankly, it kind of blew past me as I was prepping for Ohio Linuxfest [02:03] which we'll get to in a sec. [02:03] but since there was a release I'll open it up to the floor: does anyone want to have a release party [02:04] and the bear-trap part: would anyone like to organize said party? :) [02:06] I missed the release too [02:06] I'm content with not having a party as it seems if they're not associated with a larger event like Penguicon that we get fewer folks attending [02:07] I don't mind driving up to the Fall ones, but it would be tough for me to organize one from here in Bowling Green [02:07] jsjgruber-xt: Yeah, we'd have to meet at the Wendy's. :) [02:07] Yep [02:08] (sorry, it's kind of a tradition for J and I to stop at that Wendy's whenever we drive through Ohio) [02:08] So, if anyone would like to orgainze a party please let us know [02:09] either via the email list or in channel [02:09] Whichever you prefer. [02:09] any further comments or questions? [02:09] We could invite everyone to come to the mug meeting which is already somewhat of a party [02:10] waldo323: I think the usual suspects that show up to the release party are the same folks who might show up to the Nov. MUG meeting [02:10] which is at Buddy's this month [02:10] Nov. 11th [02:10] More info at http://mug.org [02:11] (Brought to you by the folks who are trying to pump up attendence) [02:11] True [02:12] It's a great group of people [02:12] Anywho... [02:12] jsjgruber-xt: Some of the finest. :) [02:12] OK, next topic: OLF recap [02:13] Managed to make it out to OLF this past weekend [02:13] The lack of Ubuntu presence there was palpable [02:13] No Ubuntu booth, lots of Oracle and Red Hat. [02:13] and Fedora, and even BSD. [02:15] not sure if this is something to be concerned about but something to keep in mind [02:15] I know the Ohio loco looked into booths and found them expensive [02:15] So not sure if there's a way to fix this outright without some more up-front money [02:16] PyOhio and the FSF had booths there. [02:16] But basically most of the talks I went to had a heavy MySQL or Fedora bent to them [02:16] (Oh, and Raspberry Pi) [02:17] I think that might be because I tried hitting a lot of high-availability talks [02:17] Anyone else make it out to OLF? [02:17] Couldn't make it [02:18] * waldo323 also couldn't make it [02:18] Yeah, Michigan was definitely in short-supply down there. :) [02:19] The SMLR folks were there. [02:19] as was Kevin O'Brien [02:19] SMLR ??? [02:19] Saturday Morning Linux Review [02:20] Anywho, I think there's room for improvement in Ubuntu participation at Ohio Linuxfest [02:22] Any questions or comments? [02:23] Not at this time [02:23] OK, final segment [02:23] I've been considering stepping down from the contact role for the group for a few months now [02:23] so I'd like to make it official. :) [02:24] I'd like to step down from the contact role for the group and go to whatever emeretus role former contacts go. :) [02:24] I won't do it until we get someone who is willing to take the reigns [02:25] But I'm starting to notice my energy waning and my enthusiasm hitting "meh" levels [02:25] I'm still planning on being active with the group but would like someone with more enthusiasm / excitement / energy take over for a while. [02:26] I think there's still a lot of potential for Ubuntu and the Loco out there [02:27] and I'd like to play more of a supporting role for our group. :) [02:27] Duties include: [02:27] 1) Being the point of contact for the group [02:27] 2) is active in, and part of, their LoCo Team. He or she is visible and accessible. [02:28] might want to follow the ubuntu-devel, ubuntu-announce, and/or ubuntu-news mailing lists. [02:28] heck, here's the low-down [02:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamContact [02:28] If this is you then I'd like to talk. [02:30] One other role is helping the group to maintain its official status which expires Nov 2015 [02:30] So you'll have a year to make things awesome for the renewal. :) [02:31] You can contact me off-channel if you'd like [02:32] Any questions? [02:33] I'll post this to the list as well [02:33] Not right now :) [02:33] Not for me [02:33] That's a good idea [02:33] OK, that's all I have at the moment [02:34] anyone have anything they'd like to add to the meeting? [02:34] other than seasoning. :) [02:34] Like salt [02:34] yep [02:35] Or a hash [02:35] That doesn't fit as well :-/ [02:36] Thanks, Craig. [02:36] Not particularly. :) [02:36] Thank you all for coming out! [02:37] Thank you for leading [02:38] np. Hope someone else will come along. :) [11:17] morning [12:00] I slept through the meeting. Sorry [12:00] You cannot step down unless you move out of state [12:11] morning [12:21] brousch: Then we continue an unsustainable trajectory toward oblivion. :) [12:35] Does anyone have actual enthusiasm for Ubuntu? [12:40] Good question. [12:41] cmaloney: What happens if we lose official status? [13:12] Hm, I won my first 2 ladder games against 29ks [13:15] brousch: i have enthusiasm towards linux and by extension ubuntu [13:15] does that count? [13:16] also, this game is over from what i can see [13:16] you are already winning and I can't see any way I can gain territory, only lose it [13:16] It does not feel like a win [13:17] lol well we can finish anyways [13:17] but counting territory, you're winning right now [13:17] Right, but it feels more like I escaped by the skin of my teeth [13:18] lol [13:21] These last 2 games with you show that I really need to think about fortifying my open spaces better [13:25] lets just keep going [13:25] for the practice if nothing else [13:28] actually no. there is no way for me to improve my situation. good job. your structure is huge and has eyes [13:28] OK [13:28] Mine is good, your right structure is quite open [13:28] literally every white stone is invincible [13:28] you win [13:29] That's because you poked into every crevice of my side and made me fortify them all :P [13:29] i passed [13:30] reddit and hacker news down.... how am i supposed to pass my time at work? [13:30] working? [13:30] lol you're funny [13:30] but really i was joking [13:31] I guess the normal criteria for passing is if you cannot improve your position, you should pass [13:31] Ah, I defeated a 26k [13:32] I should bump up my rating [13:32] i'm going to join the ladders i guess [13:33] You would have won if I hadn't gotten into that bottom section [13:34] yep [13:35] full size board this time? [13:35] Sure [13:36] Hm, it won't let me adjust my rating. I guess it does it automatically after you've played a lot of rated games [13:37] hmm [13:54] brousch: If we lose official status we don't get DVDs and other "perks" [13:55] though I think it's more difficult for new teams to get official status than for older teams to lose official status [13:55] I don't want DVDs. they just sit in my office and take up space [13:56] yeah, same here [13:56] I'm trying to get rid of the 14.04 discs. :) [13:57] I can't remember the last time I installed from CD. It's always USB these days [13:58] Does a box of DVDs cost the same as a 4GB USB stick? [14:06] Not sure [14:06] I think USB sticks are more expensive than a single DVD though [14:11] 14.04 is LTS, some folks may still prefer them to 14.10 [14:11] especially server folks [14:28] we appear to be twisting around each other [14:29] I had a similar game recently [14:30] I'll bet there's some Japanese term for it [14:31] probably [14:32] some super short word that's incredibly descriptive [14:33] Translates to "lover's embrace" or "snakes entangled" [14:38] i've been looking at sequences of moves in professional games, and one thing i noticed is that they almost never play a single battle at a time the way we do [14:38] 5 moves in one area of the board appears to be the max [14:38] i wonder why [14:40] I think they mostly sort out a battle, then go somewhere else to be annoying, knowing they will eventually approach that old battle from a different direction [14:41] So the "winner" of the battle can clean it up, but that gives the opponent time to establish himself in some other place [14:41] Or maybe they are playing out 20 moves ahead [14:53] mrgoodcat: exactly :P [14:53] good job [14:53] didn't see that coming [14:53] i actually convinced myself i was ahead there [14:53] Those twisty ones are hard [14:54] You were 1 stone from winning it. I was scared for a while [14:55] It's still not done. You have a nice base above it [14:59] I think the pros move on after only a few moves because they can tell who has the advantage much sooner than we can. [15:09] but sometimes its like 1 or 2 moves [15:10] i think they just develop more of the board at the same time. it's possible that it's actually a bad idea to leave parts of the board alone for large segments of time. idk i'm just spitballing === sharp1 is now known as akelling [15:15] lol brousch ignore the message in that one. somehow i got my vimium keys mixed up and pasted the text from an article about signal queueing [15:15] I thought this was some new strategy to distract me [15:16] lol [15:46] mrgoodcat: Nice. :) [15:47] https://github.com/christoomey/vim-tmux-navigator [16:00] This will come in handy whenver I'm running tmux and want to swap between different vim sessions [19:26] Hm, the hardware for this sounds exactly like the Acer Iconia W4 I ordered http://linuxgizmos.com/atom-based-ubuntu-touch-tablet-specs-leaked/ [19:44] holy, Tom from CarTalk died :( :( [19:44] omg! [19:44] that is so sad. [20:08] <_stink_> D: [20:09] <_stink_> woah i didn't realize they were that old [20:09] <_stink_> well Tom at least [20:13] that's too bad [20:13] my dad used to listen to car talk a lot [20:51] it was my favorite part of our drives down to St Louis on (some) Saturdays [20:59] Yeah, they went off the air a while ago [21:10] What... the... Fsck... http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/11/03/filevault_2_mac_users_unsaved_files_and_screenshots_are_automatically_uploaded.html [21:17] "but these files are being stored on the Cloud instead" lost respect in the reporter/their editors right there [21:17] greg-g: why? "on" instead of "in"? upper cased "cloud" ? [21:18] Everyone knows you store in the cloud, not on it. That's just silly. [21:18] wboth [21:18] -w