| bluesabre | ochosi: added a new comment and patch to the HDMI bug, please take a look when you get a chance. | 02:23 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | !info thunar vivid | 03:08 |
| ubottu | thunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3-1ubuntu5 (vivid), package size 250 kB, installed size 908 kB | 03:08 |
| bluesabre | !info thunar vivid-proposed | 03:08 |
| ubottu | Package thunar does not exist in vivid-proposed | 03:08 |
| bluesabre | lies | 03:09 |
| Unit193 | And slander. Also, it's not live feed, updates cache every morning. | 03:09 |
| bluesabre | ah | 03:10 |
| bluesabre | I'll wake it up tomorrow then :) | 03:10 |
| bluesabre | anyway, pushed updates to xubuntu-default-settings, xubuntu-meta, and thunar | 03:10 |
| bluesabre | so yay, productive night | 03:10 |
| * bluesabre wishes brainwash had a persistent client so he could be pinged after-hours | 03:12 | |
| skellat | $ rmadison thunar | grep vivid | 03:24 |
| skellat | thunar | 1.6.3-2ubuntu1 | vivid/universe | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el | 03:24 |
| bluesabre | thats the one | 03:56 |
| bluesabre | ^ forestpiskie, thunar fix in vivid above ... will pkg and upload to utopic tomorrow | 03:57 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: http://paste.openstack.org/show/vGDcjIMoqZGDLyRxJa1S outdated in the xfce4-4.12 ppa. | 05:29 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 09:32 |
| bluesabre | morning ochosi | 10:32 |
| bluesabre | see my ping? | 10:33 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 10:33 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'll try to test that asap | 10:33 |
| ochosi | the xfsettings one you mean, right? | 10:33 |
| ochosi | it might still be helpful for the dialog/s to be a singleton, but i guess if your fix works, that's fine for now | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | yes, thats the one | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | I thought trying to make it a singleton might start an issue with the pluggable dialog in the settings manager | 10:35 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, that's the problem of making both dialogs *one* singleton i guess | 10:35 |
| ochosi | hm, that's maybe a different issue, but... | 10:38 |
| ochosi | the secondary monitor receives a leading "2." | 10:38 |
| ochosi | the internal display of the laptop is simply called "Laptop" | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | oh, no "1." ? | 10:38 |
| ochosi | nope | 10:38 |
| bluesabre | thats a different issue, I can look into that one separately | 10:39 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-11-03-113936.php | 10:39 |
| ochosi | your patch seems to work just fine btw | 10:39 |
| ochosi | no more crazy popping up minimal dialogs on my end | 10:39 |
| ochosi | have to admit that this time i tested on utopic, last time i tested on trusty | 10:40 |
| ochosi | can quickly test trusty too though | 10:40 |
| ochosi | were there any specific steps i need to follow btw? i just tried out all the setups i could think of... (disconnect cable, reconnect cable, mirror, extend, only hdmi, only lvds) | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | that's basically what I did... I reordered to code to do some things in a different order. The logic should be sound. | 10:42 |
| ochosi | cool | 10:44 |
| ochosi | i think you can push that | 10:44 |
| ochosi | i'm wondering whether we should put the numbering of the displays somewhere else, i.e. not in the name-string on the DND displays | 10:45 |
| bluesabre | I'll give it until tonight, then finally fix that annoying bug :) | 10:45 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: if we do, we'll have to add more logic somewhere... those strings are used everywhere | 10:46 |
| ochosi | oh | 10:46 |
| ochosi | in that case, let's not :> | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:51 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: ping | 11:10 |
| bluesabre | ^ please nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1382977 for utopic and vivid (fixed in vivid) | 11:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1382977 in thunar "Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Critical,Fix released] | 11:10 |
| ochosi | elfy: do you know whether gtk3.14 has landed in vivid already? | 11:17 |
| bluesabre | !info libgtk-3-0 vivid | 11:26 |
| ubottu | libgtk-3-0 (source: gtk+3.0): GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.2-0ubuntu16 (vivid), package size 2178 kB, installed size 7776 kB | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | ochosi ^ I'm guessing no | 11:27 |
| ochosi | yeah, seems like it | 11:28 |
| ochosi | i'm really gonna need a gtk3.14 test-env soonish | 11:28 |
| ochosi | and i don't feel like messing up my system with that ppa you "recommended ":) | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | It definitely wasn't a recommendation ;) | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: anything else critical to take care of xfce4-settings? | 11:33 |
| ochosi | hm, i don't think so | 11:33 |
| ochosi | but we can quickly skim through the related bugzillas if you want | 11:34 |
| bluesabre | oh dang, theres a lot of bug reports | 11:35 |
| ochosi | well obviously :) | 11:38 |
| ochosi | but the question was whether there are any ciritcal ones | 11:38 |
| ochosi | that we'd have to check | 11:38 |
| bluesabre | right | 11:39 |
| bluesabre | several of these are from 2012 and earlier | 11:39 |
| bluesabre | they may very well be fixed | 11:39 |
| ochosi | yeah, i've never really looked at clearing that up tbh | 11:39 |
| ochosi | i just closed a bugreport btw ;) | 11:41 |
| bluesabre | woo | 11:42 |
| ochosi | and marked another as duplicate | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | nothing particularly critical for display-settings, but several interesting ones with xfsettingsd https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?component=Xfsettingsd&list_id=19471&product=Xfce4-settings&resolution=--- | 11:43 |
| ochosi | we could consider marking it as wontfix or testing it at least: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10069 | 11:44 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10069 in Display Settings "PATCH: Add gamma correction and brightness slider to xfce4-display-settings" [Normal,New] | 11:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, and a "funny" one :https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10419 | 11:44 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10419 in Xfsettingsd "black screen at resume" [Major,New] | 11:45 |
| bluesabre | ugh, your sense of humor is lacking | 11:45 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: this one is a good find though: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9091 | 11:46 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9091 in Display Settings "Laptop monitor selection key behavior is inconsistent with other desktop environments" [Normal,New] | 11:46 |
| ochosi | look at the last comment | 11:46 |
| ochosi | the closing with Esc is implemented already | 11:47 |
| ochosi | and the rest should be fixed once you push your patch | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | ah, that one looks annoying, and will definitely require a singleton to maybe fix... | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | oh hey, I actually have that key, and it works | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | that means I might be able to test/fix that issue | 11:49 |
| ochosi | :) | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | I'll try to take a look at that one tonight | 11:50 |
| ochosi | cool | 11:50 |
| ochosi | gotta get some work done now | 11:50 |
| ochosi | bbl | 11:50 |
| bluesabre | if you see brainwash_ around, poke him for lp 1382977 | 11:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1382977 in thunar "Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382977 | 11:51 |
| bluesabre | to set for utopic and vivid series | 11:51 |
| bluesabre | bbl | 11:51 |
| knome | could use memoserv | 12:02 |
| knome | sent him a memoserv note | 12:04 |
| knome | let's see if he looks at it when he joins the next time :) | 12:04 |
| knome | bbl -> | 12:04 |
| elfy | ochosi: as you've found out - not yet :) | 12:39 |
| elfy | also - alpha's was on the agenda for the last meeting - didn't get touched - I'd like to know sooner rather than later what we're doing this cycle | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | elfy: I think it was discussed that alphas would depend on when systemd was switched to default. It might make sense to at least go for alpha2 | 14:18 |
| bluesabre | maybe not during the mtg though | 14:18 |
| elfy | bluesabre: lol - well that would have been the time I looked :D | 15:16 |
| elfy | and yea I would agree with that | 15:16 |
| elfy | found annoying issue #1 for vampire - numlock turns off halfway through boot :) | 15:40 |
| sidi | hi folks | 15:55 |
| sidi | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4441 | 15:55 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 4441 in General "balou splash screen causes lockup on login" [Major,New] | 15:55 |
| sidi | please have a look and comment, does this still happen? | 15:55 |
| elfy | anyone got any idea why apps would go all gtk2 ish ? http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-021114-100103.php | 16:08 |
| ochosi | xfsettingsd crashed? | 16:09 |
| elfy | not sure - I've rebooted since it happened - but it is happening rather frequently atm | 16:10 |
| elfy | next time I will check that - thanks ochosi :) | 16:10 |
| ochosi | sure thing | 16:10 |
| ochosi | i'm pretty sure that's what causes it | 16:10 |
| elfy | okey doke | 16:10 |
| ochosi | but it'd be good to know what causes xfsettingsd to crash | 16:10 |
| ochosi | best to look in the logs | 16:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: do you suddenly have irc during the day? | 16:11 |
| elfy | pretty certain I've only been seeing it since adding the 2 ppa's here - but circumstantial | 16:11 |
| elfy | ochosi: while you're here - what's your take on alpha's? bluesabre said a2 at least | 16:12 |
| ochosi | well i think one of those PPAs contained xfce4-settings | 16:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, i haven't had time to comment yet – i agree with the two of you | 16:12 |
| elfy | yep - just checked - I'll follow up on that xfsettingsd with this | 16:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok cool - that works for me :) | 16:13 |
| ochosi | cool | 16:13 |
| ochosi | then the release team has spoken :) | 16:14 |
| elfy | :D | 16:14 |
| elfy | I'll whip it off the agenda | 16:14 |
| elfy | ish | 16:15 |
| elfy | leaving core for the moment till we make a decision on that | 16:15 |
| ochosi | yup, good idea | 16:16 |
| ochosi | well, it wasn't a "proper" meeting, because not many ppl were about | 16:16 |
| ochosi | and those that were, only were semi-about | 16:16 |
| ochosi | so we made it a bit more informal instead of postponing it | 16:17 |
| elfy | yea - I'm never able to - unless not working | 16:17 |
| sidi | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7463 anyone with a Virtualbox under hand? | 16:56 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7463 in General "Every alternate Xfce login and session is painfully slow here" [Major,New] | 16:56 |
| sidi | oops wrong report | 16:56 |
| sidi | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7951 | 16:56 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7951 in Panel "Panel crashes when moving to bottom - Virtualbox related" [Major,New] | 16:56 |
| elfy | sidi: well ... | 17:17 |
| elfy | I've not seen that issue in the last couple of years | 17:17 |
| elfy | bit old | 17:17 |
| sidi | elfy, next time you boot up a VM for QA would you mind trying to reproduce? :-) | 17:21 |
| sidi | so we can close it with certainty | 17:21 |
| sidi | (or if you already tested the panels recently i can ask for it to be closed directly...) | 17:21 |
| slickymasterWork | sidi, I've just reproduced the steps in https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7951 and I didn't have any crashes | 17:24 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7951 in Panel "Panel crashes when moving to bottom - Virtualbox related" [Major,New] | 17:24 |
| sidi | slickymaster, thanks :-) | 17:24 |
| elfy | sidi: booted with my 15.04 vm - logged into xubuntu, moved panel from top to bottom, set to vertical moved it from side to side, set to deskbar - did the same, logged out and into xfce session - repeated them all again | 17:25 |
| slickymasterWork | this is on VBox 4.3.12 with Guest Addittions | 17:25 |
| elfy | newer vbox here | 17:25 |
| sidi | slicky what xub version? | 17:26 |
| sidi | i'll write that down i nthe report | 17:26 |
| slickymasterWork | 14.10 sidi | 17:26 |
| sidi | elfy also if you have your VBox version :-) | 17:26 |
| elfy | sidi: for sure I've looked at panels in 15.04/14.10/14.04 | 17:26 |
| sidi | (i meant the vbox) | 17:26 |
| elfy | sidi: 4.3.18 | 17:27 |
| slickymasterWork | sidi, with 3.16.0-22 kernel version | 17:27 |
| sidi | Great, thanks to both of you | 17:27 |
| elfy | sidi: yea - I was just telling you what I'd seen it on :) | 17:27 |
| slickymasterWork | I've already had post it -> this is on VBox 4.3.12 with Guest Addittions | 17:27 |
| sidi | oops | 17:36 |
| elfy | :) | 17:36 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: someone has to do the SRU paperwork for this bug | 18:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: now that you are familiar with xdg-screensaver script -> bug 1366153 | 18:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1366153 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-screensaver doesn't lock screen with light-locker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366153 | 18:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: so - how would I tell if it is xfsettingsd crashing? | 19:37 |
| elfy | in the meantime I've purged staging and will see if it happens with stock | 19:43 |
| ali1234 | elfy: that is definitely xfsettings crash | 19:47 |
| ali1234 | unless XChat is Qt, there's some problem with Qt themes not getting loaded | 19:47 |
| elfy | not qt as far as I know ali1234 | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | pgrep xfsettingsd | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | is it running? | 19:48 |
| elfy | it was yes | 19:48 |
| ali1234 | could be hung then | 19:49 |
| elfy | mmm | 19:49 |
| ali1234 | try killing it, it should restart and the theme should come back | 19:49 |
| elfy | well I've restarted xchat and purged the staging PPA - so not actually going to be looking at the same set of circumstances | 19:50 |
| elfy | I'll carry on now as I am - if it does the same I'll kill it and see what happens | 19:50 |
| elfy | but if xfsettings did crash and/or hung - why has nothing else seen the same thing graphically? | 19:51 |
| ali1234 | i don't know | 19:52 |
| elfy | ali1234: so I killed it | 19:52 |
| ali1234 | it should affect all programs | 19:52 |
| elfy | I see xchat looking like that now - I also see firefox/tbird and clementine looking like it | 19:52 |
| elfy | previously only xchat | 19:52 |
| ali1234 | seems like it's not a xfsettings crash then | 19:53 |
| elfy | start xfsettings and f/f and t/b are ok - xchat and clementine(QT) not | 19:53 |
| elfy | fail - clementine is ok | 19:54 |
| elfy | so it looks like an xfsettings crash - but it only appears to affect xchat :) | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | yeah, maybe xchat doesn't notice when it comes back | 19:55 |
| elfy | Unit193: can you do some notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/vivid-QA-plan re Core and what you think would be the best way to deal with testing it ? | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | Uhhh.. | 20:52 |
| elfy | thanks :) | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | Sure, but isn't it just "test it only when big stacks land"? | 20:53 |
| elfy | fine by me - but can you put it on there - I for one am not going to try and remember things this cycle | 20:53 |
| elfy | once all the pads are done and we're happy I'll get everything onto trello | 20:54 |
| elfy | but - for that how are we going to monitor "when big stacks land" ? | 20:54 |
| Unit193 | Nono, sure, that's fine, just making sure I'm not being too vague. Basically, when Gnome things hit and we're worried about pulling more things than desired in. | 20:55 |
| elfy | well everything is vague atm - there's no release schedule for a start | 20:56 |
| elfy | and we can plan as much as we like - but there are no trackers either :) | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | That good or should I say more? | 20:57 |
| elfy | that's fine - just saves trying to remember stuff later | 20:58 |
| elfy | thanks | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | No problem. | 20:58 |
| elfy | and if you think of anything else - add it - for anything obvioulsy not just core | 20:58 |
| elfy | ochosi: at some point *soon* we'll need to try and finalise this incentive scheme too | 20:59 |
| ochosi | elfy: indeed | 21:00 |
| ochosi | i mean it seemed to me that there was an agreement on how it should look | 21:00 |
| ochosi | i mean in terms of what people get for participating | 21:00 |
| elfy | not sure what the last thing was you saw - there was talk of certificates too possibly :) | 21:00 |
| ochosi | certificates? | 21:01 |
| ochosi | oh, then i didn't see the last rev i guess :) | 21:01 |
| ochosi | where's it at these days? | 21:01 |
| elfy | knome: thought about it - design and print things | 21:02 |
| elfy | http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive | 21:02 |
| ochosi | you mean like actual pieces of paper printed out and sent via snail mail to be hung on walls and the like? | 21:02 |
| elfy | at some point it will need to be wiki'd or x.org'd | 21:02 |
| elfy | I guess :) | 21:02 |
| ochosi | indeed | 21:03 |
| ochosi | and the colorful part needs to be cleaned up a li'l | 21:03 |
| ochosi | i mean from my pov it's pretty much ready to go ahead | 21:03 |
| elfy | not following - colourful part? | 21:04 |
| ochosi | well, the part that was edited by multiple people ;) | 21:04 |
| ochosi | in the pad, that's colorful | 21:04 |
| elfy | oh right - yea - whole thing needs cleaning up properly | 21:04 |
| elfy | thinking about it - x.org would probably be the place to keep it rather than wiki - wiki anyone can edit it | 21:05 |
| ochosi | guess it's a question of -marketing stepping in and finalising it | 21:05 |
| ochosi | or: pleia2 and knome :) | 21:05 |
| elfy | I'd say so - then I can let go of the string :D | 21:05 |
| elfy | http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-qa-v-cycle | 21:06 |
| knome | i can design the certs | 21:06 |
| knome | i can probably even do that today, or at least a draft | 21:06 |
| elfy | ochosi: draft QA processes is better than the last time you saw it too, just needs to be finished - soon(ish) | 21:07 |
| elfy | knome: evening :) | 21:07 |
| knome | hello elfy | 21:07 |
| ochosi | elfy: oh, cool, i'll take a look in a little bit | 21:10 |
| ochosi | i was just linking another bug to our v-tracker | 21:10 |
| pleia2 | stickers too? | 21:10 |
| pleia2 | I need to know how many we want so I can let unixstickers know :) | 21:11 |
| * ochosi kindly asked robert ancell to patch the headerbars out of simplescan for xubuntu and he agreed | 21:11 | |
| elfy | pleia2: basically yes | 21:11 |
| elfy | 2 at most per month per cycle and I suppose we should look at least for 1 cycle | 21:11 |
| pleia2 | ok, so start off with a dozen or so sheets of stickers? | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | and maybe a couple more for us (I want some!) | 21:12 |
| knome | huhu, me too :| | 21:12 |
| elfy | that would be enough for 15.04 for sure | 21:12 |
| knome | ^ me plz! | 21:12 |
| knome | :D | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | :) | 21:13 |
| ochosi | knome: got time for some artwork talk? | 21:13 |
| knome | ochosi, i guess so :) | 21:13 |
| ochosi | just some small things i've been thinking about | 21:13 |
| knome | sure | 21:13 |
| ochosi | 1) the panel icons | 21:13 |
| ochosi | 2) xfwm4 theme tweaks | 21:13 |
| ochosi | ad 1) i've been considering to port the new icons from upstream | 21:14 |
| ochosi | started with battery icons first, i think they look quite nice | 21:14 |
| ochosi | so far so good. | 21:14 |
| ochosi | but they are a bit smaller | 21:14 |
| ochosi | which is nice, because it gives the icons in the panel more padding, makes it look loftier | 21:14 |
| ochosi | also means touching some of the other icons (not too many though) | 21:15 |
| knome | screenshots / comparisons available? | 21:15 |
| ochosi | pro is: better ability to resize panels below 24px height | 21:16 |
| ochosi | (without cropping icons, that is) | 21:16 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-11-03-221640.php | 21:16 |
| ochosi | proposed ^ | 21:16 |
| ochosi | the current one you should see on your laptop i guess | 21:17 |
| ochosi | if not, this is an old screenshot where it's visible too: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-08-03-122819.php | 21:17 |
| ochosi | frankly, the current one feels a little too tall, so i don't mind changing that | 21:18 |
| ochosi | but the proposed one is a bit smaller and makes the other icons feel just a tick too big | 21:18 |
| elfy | holy icon city | 21:18 |
| ochosi | the resizing is not a huge problem, but before i get into it, i wanted a second opinion | 21:18 |
| knome | ochosi, i dislike the proposed power icon, feels a bit too squeezed imo | 21:19 |
| ochosi | even with an 18px panel, the icon remains usable (though cropped by 1px, so not extremely pretty) https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/261436/4881743/e6614758-634c-11e4-8107-eaae532755f2.png | 21:19 |
| knome | elfy, bug assignee was good! | 21:21 |
| ochosi | gotta find a screenshot of the icon together with others of its size i guess, kinda puts it in perspective a bit better | 21:21 |
| knome | prolly | 21:21 |
| ochosi | if the resolution werent a bit low, you could see the diff quite nicely here: http://www.elementaryos-fr.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/luna_freya.jpeg | 21:22 |
| knome | "thanks" i guess :P | 21:23 |
| ochosi | this is a bit better: http://i.imgur.com/vX4z0pO.png | 21:24 |
| knome | hmph, i still don't like it | 21:25 |
| ochosi | dunno, i kinda do :) | 21:29 |
| knome | well there's literally your "second opinion" then ;) | 21:30 |
| ochosi | hehe | 21:30 |
| elfy | knome: lol - I didn't do anything for it really | 21:30 |
| ochosi | i'll have to get a third then :D | 21:30 |
| elfy | black on black | 21:30 |
| knome | elfy, you did :P | 21:31 |
| knome | elfy, anyway, as long as it's linked to status.ubuntu.com, i think it's better to have *some* assignee than none | 21:31 |
| elfy | then whoever pushed it should be assigned | 21:31 |
| elfy | imo | 21:32 |
| knome | i guess i did the pushing action | 21:32 |
| elfy | and you and slickymaster did the majority of the rest of it - the result isn't anything like what I did | 21:32 |
| knome | stop being so humble :P | 21:33 |
| elfy | lol | 21:33 |
| elfy | I wrote something and then it got changed - what's humble about that :) | 21:34 |
| elfy | anyway - enough of that | 21:34 |
| Unit193 | knome: "Welcome back" | 21:34 |
| knome | Unit193, "Thanks" | 21:36 |
| elfy | "night all" | 21:43 |
| ochosi | knome: soo... | 21:45 |
| ochosi | ad 2) there is an xfwm4 branch of greybird in git | 21:45 |
| ochosi | if you wanna take a quick look | 21:45 |
| ochosi | since i only changed the hover/pressed states, you have to try it, screenshots won't cut it | 21:46 |
| knome | aww | 21:46 |
| knome | ;) | 21:46 |
| knome | remind me another day | 21:47 |
| ochosi | hah, lazy knome | 21:48 |
| knome | very | 21:55 |
| ochosi | brainwash: frankly, xdg-screensaver is such a mess, especially in ubuntu, i'm not a huge fan of touching it again. lubuntu can fix this easily by shipping their own xflock4 script in some package | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: xfdesktop4 .8 in Debian now, fixes a spelling error in xfdesktop4-dbg synopsis. | 23:33 |
| slickymaster | forestpiskie, just for the record let me state that I concur with knome's reasoning, as as far as I'm concerned, the main lifting was made by you, not us | 23:36 |
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