[06:12] Hi. I'm having some trouble after updating, and wonder if anyone might be able to help. [06:13] from which version to which fishercat and have you read the relase notes [06:14] 12.04 to 14.04; I haven't. Can you point me at them? The basic documentation for 14.04 is, well, really basic. [06:15] You know, never mind.. I can check for the release notes myself. [06:17] Okay.. there doesn't seem to be anything in the release notes covering the issue I'm having. [08:02] what software is being used for the creation of the guest account [08:03] Ahmuck: adduser I guess. So nothing special [08:04] its only creating the guest users home on a temporary folder [08:04] "temporary folder" a folder mounted with tmpfs [08:05] i don't think it's adduser [08:05] it's tied into lightdm [08:05] hmm.... [08:05] and creates the account on the fly [08:05] it must be adduser [08:05] or useradd [08:05] its just as script though that creates this guest user [08:06] so it adds a user via adduser on the fly and then deletes everything? [08:07] yeah it uses apparmor also to only have read access to /home and other files and folders [08:10] is that new? [08:10] the apparmor thing? [08:10] Nope its old since Ubuntu 11.10 or so [08:10] http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2013/Jan/240 [08:11] seclists indicate that guest is able to traverse directories [08:12] yeah read only. But guest shouldn't be able to write anything [08:14] i did ltsp for a small test lab a couple of years back. nobody really wanted to use it because of this reason, the ability to "read" anothers directory. iirc [08:16] anyhow. out. [08:16] Yeah I am also not sure why the guest account option exists at all. [08:16] backdoored? [08:16] gtg. need sleep [08:17] ah ok, different time zone :P Its morning here :P [08:17] cu [08:17] actually it exists so that someone can use your computer without logging into your account [08:17] the problem is ... i don't want anybody using my computer anyway [08:17] exactly [08:18] ya, it's 2:17 am here. sleeping. [08:45] Hi [08:45] Can someone please help me figure out why lubuntu is only seeing one gig of ram when I have two gigs? [08:49] Also, in a .conf file if there is a # in front of something does that mean it's ignored? [12:23] CAn I update to Lubuntu 14.10 via command line? [12:24] Steven|: If you're on 14.04 [12:24] yup [12:24] Steven|: "sudo do-release-upgrade" [12:25] ah nice thank you hateball! [12:28] Well its telling me there is no new release but I'm still on 14.04.1 [12:29] ah nvm. had to pass the -d option to get it to find it [12:31] erm nvm. not sure if I should do this if I'm using the LTS lol [12:33] well it depends if you want to stay on LTS or not :) [14:31] hi, does anybody know why my screen goes off when i open a youtube video? [14:32] i can still hear the audio but my screen goes off. any actions i do still happen but screen is off [14:47] Hi. I'm having some problems post-update from 12.04 to 14.04 and am looking for suggestions. The only similar issue I've seen in the release notes is Bug #1308530, but what's happening with my box is a bit different. [14:47] bug 1308530 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot login after an upgrade from Saucy to Trusty with Ubiquity and encrypted home directory" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308530 [15:59] Hi. I'm having some problems post-update from 12.04 to 14.04 and am looking for suggestions. The only similar issue I've seen in the release notes is Bug #1308530, but what's happening with my box is a bit different. Can anybody help? [15:59] bug 1308530 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot login after an upgrade from Saucy to Trusty with Ubiquity and encrypted home directory" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308530 [16:00] Fishercat: what problems? [16:00] Fishercat: you cant login as *any* user? [16:01] or just the user/s with encryption? [16:01] I can log in as a guest user, but not as my main user. [16:01] So, no admin privileges, and anything I do is wiped. [16:02] well, thats a "feature" of the guest account [16:02] Yup, I know. [16:02] But it does mean that I can't create a new user as a workaround. [16:02] if you add another account, in the recover console, you would have a "normal" user? then? [16:02] recovery* [16:03] Ooh! Recovery console? Where/how? [16:03] Fishercat: at boot.. in grub.. under the current kernel.. [16:03] Holstein: I'm a GUI user, so, can you talk me through it? [16:04] Fishercat: i would look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword and follow those steps, up to the passwd command, where, you can add a user [16:04] Holstein: *happydance* Thank you! :-) [16:04] *adduser command [16:05] if i had my data backed up, i would just use it to put back into the new user account.. if not, i would use http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/ to recover the data [16:06] Holstein: Bless your furry little heart. THANK YOU. [16:08] this is all a big "workaround" though. but, you likely wont get that issue addressed in the lubuntu community.. you would have to go to #ubuntu and the mailing lists, and maybe not then [16:08] really depends on what the issue is.. [16:09] i personally dont do upgrades.. i find fresh installs to be much quicker..and, you have to have "good" backups, even when using encryption [16:09] Yeah, well, I failed my saving throw. [16:09] it may be acceptable to have unencrypted backups laying around the house *not* hooked up to a machine [16:09] (Ooh, that makes me a bad person.... If I'm reinstalling on an ext4 fs, I just trash all but /home, then I trash ~/.* and reinstall.) [16:10] (without formatting) [16:10] or a few "copies".. though, a copy is not a backup [16:10] True. [16:10] i dont even bother with the /home, personally.. i keep what configs i need/want backedup or sync'd [16:11] Fishercat: either way, i know that has to be frustrating.. and good luck.. i think you will be able to make a new user there, and migrate the data over.. [16:12] (Actually I just did that, switching a Linux Mint system to an ArchLinux system. Virtually no problems.) [16:12] yup.. its just that little word "virtually" [16:13] Holstein, thank you again.. [16:13] i have aboslutely no problems.. at least no surprise problems. those can be quite different versions of software.. expecting, for example, a gnome config from ubuntu 12.04 from 2012 to work with an arch system with the bleeding edge gnome.. that can be problematic [16:13] nothing that cant be handled.. [16:14] The world of Weird Configuration Things® [16:14] WOW-CT :) ... .com === bollullera is now known as Sevillana === Sevillana is now known as sevillanalinuxer === sevillanalinuxer is now known as sevilinuxera [17:03] Hi. In trying the solutions [HOLSTEIN] previously suggested for my post-update 12.04 - 14.04 blues, I've run into a snag. Root access doesn't recognize "mount" as a command. Any suggestions? [17:17] Hi. I'm having trouble logging in after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04. The only similar issue in the release notes is Bug #1308530, but there are differences: a) I upgraded from Pangolin; b) I'm not positive that my home directory was encrypted; and c) I can log in as a guest user. I've been pointed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword, but none of the three variants shown there have worked. (Grub doesn't recognize " [17:17] bug 1308530 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot login after an upgrade from Saucy to Trusty with Ubiquity and encrypted home directory" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308530 [17:17] I'm a GUI user. Can anyone help? [19:15] Hi. I've got post-upgrade 12.04 --> 14.04 problems. The GUI is only accessible as a guest user. When I log in to my home directory, it sticks at the splash screen. I'm a GUI user familiar, but not comfortable, with terminal use. Can anyone offer any suggestions? [19:44] Fishercat: the link i gave addresses the root access [19:45] Fishercat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword addresses mounting the filesystem to create a new user.. [19:45] Fishercat: not to recover your encrypted /home.. [19:46] Fishercat: if you have your data backed up, which, you need to have that regardless, since all drives *will* fail.. you may choose to fresh install, and put your data back.. i would expect that to take about 20 minutes, and "fix" everything for you [19:47] Holstein: Hi.. yes, I tried all three options given at that link. For the first option, Grub didn't recognize "mount" as a command. [19:47] Fishercat: grub is not running that command to recognize it, though [19:48] Fishercat: you need to boot the recovery console.. from there you are in a root shell [19:49] Holstein -- the first directions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword tell you to remount as read write.. and I can't. [19:49] I did boot from the recovery console (or at least, that was the option I tried).. following the rest of the directions didn't work, though. [19:50] Fishercat: you cant "try".. you must get to the root shell.. the rest of the directions depend on that [19:50] I believe I did get to the root shell. [19:50] Fishercat: please reboot the machine, tapping shift to show the grub menu.. then, manually arrow to the recover console.. from there, select "root shell" and share errors [19:51] Okay.. will do. Tap shift repeatedly, rather than holding it down? [19:51] Fishercat: after the bios, just do literally *whatever* it takes to show the grub menu from where you select the recovery console [19:51] Fishercat: you cant go past that.. if you do, you get back in the current loop you are in.. [19:52] Fishercat: you *can*, try tty from the current loop you are in.. but, i would keep moving [19:52] Fishercat: i could reinstall and put that system back together in about 20 minutes, so, you may not want to spend too long here, if you can kep moving [19:52] !tty [19:52] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [19:52] you can try login, and where you are hanging booting into the UI, you can try tty [19:53] Hang on.. [19:53] *if* you can login tty, then, you can remove the .config files that are "breaking" the ui [19:53] OR, you can boot the live CD from the other link, and access the encrypted /home, from a live CD, and remove the users config files there [19:53] Which am I trying first, please? Grub menu, or TTY? [19:53] Fishercat: doesnt matter to me [19:53] Okay. [19:53] Fishercat: im just firing out what i would do.. and i wouldnt spend hours on each thing [19:54] Grub first. Back soon. [19:54] Fishercat: none of them are "fixes" [19:54] Fishercat: this is just a way for you to learn what is happening, and apply a work around, or get your data. or whatever [19:54] Gotcha. [20:23] I cant install Nokuntu on Lubuntu 14.04 .Why ? [20:24] !info nokuntu [20:24] Package nokuntu does not exist in utopic [20:24] ? [20:26] Aladiah: What is it and how did you attempt to install it? [20:27] it is pc suite. [20:27] people say its because Gambas 2 need [20:28] i try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/406414/unable-to-install-nokia-pc-suite-nokuntu-on-13-10-14-04 but in first step packages not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/8824273/ [20:28] ITs an linux alternative to Nokia pc suite for cell phones. [20:30] I cant find an alternative that work as a pc suite for me [20:30] genii: it's old deprecated software [20:30] genii: its deps were dropped after 13.10 it seems [20:30] it's not maintained either [20:31] also, crossposting is still an issue since htey're asking here and in #ubuntu [20:34] So maybe install 13.10 into a chroot and xnest to it [20:35] Meh, why not an LXC container? Those things are getting fashionable [20:35] dude if you add "cloud" to anything it' [20:35] s fashionable [20:35] i could singlehandedly take care of ppc just by saying the "c" stands for cloud [20:35] everyone would jump on board [20:36] How to run a windows virtual box in Lubuntu 14.04 ? [20:36] oops wrong channel! [20:36] anyways Aladiah install virtualbox and then install windows in a new virtual machine. [20:36] Yeah, that ^. [20:37] Hi. I'm having problems post-update from 12.04 to 14.04. The only GUI access is as a guest user; when I log in to my home directory, it sticks on the splash page. Can anyone help? [20:37] wxl: Unfortunately LXC isn't the cloud [20:37] wxl : i will need Windows OEM disk for that ? What is this Windows OEM disk ? [20:37] SonikkuAmerica: nope, it's not. but it's tangentially related :) [20:37] Aladiah: the installation cd. [20:38] Fishercat_: can you get to a virtual terminal? [20:38] wxl: i need a CD or a USb pen to have virtual box ? [20:38] Aladiah: you need some kind of installation media. [20:39] Aladiah: i doubt you're going to find a windows installtion iso just laying around on the internet [20:39] although there are places… [20:39] wxl; do you think Nokia pc suite will run with usb and everythin on virtual machine ? [20:39] Aladiah: possible. [20:41] wxl: I think so, but I'm a GUI user, I'm not confident that's where I am. [20:41] !vt | Fishercat_ [20:41] argh [20:41] !tty | Fishercat_ [20:41] Fishercat_: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [20:41] that's what i refer to [20:42] if you can, log in and see if /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg give you any info [20:42] Okay, hang on, thanks.. I'll try it on the Linux box. [20:43] So I'm trying to install lubuntu 14.10 on a old pentium m thinkpad. It tells me the kernel is not compatible as the pentium M does not support "PAE". I found a fix for this here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods#Pentium_M_and_Celeron_M . However it does not seem to work. The ubuntu wiki tells me to boot, highlight the install option and then press F6. When I do this nothing happens! How to save this nice thinkpad??? [20:46] wxl: I can get to a terminal.. I can get to a bunch of terminals. Does it matter which one? [20:46] Fishercat_: nope. you can use "more /var/log/syslog" or "less /var/log/syslog" to read the file. just hit space to go to the next page. [20:47] wxl: Okay.. I'm gonig to read the syslog. [20:48] I have solved my problem already. Simply tap tab. Thanks! [20:48] wxl: I can't read either /syslog or /dmesg. Permission is denied. [20:49] Should I try rebooting without going into guest mode to do so? [20:49] Fishercat_: did you log in as your normal user? [20:49] wxl: Nope. Logged into GUI as guest user. Will reboot, and switch to terminal to log in as admin. [20:50] Fishercat_: yeah log into the tty as your actual user. no need to reboot. [20:50] Does disk encryption effect the speed of the computer? [20:51] wxl: I tried logging into the tty as my normal user already. (Am already rebooting other machine.) [20:51] Borbit: Slightly. [20:51] Fishercat_: there is no reason you should be permission denied with your regular user. [20:52] wxl: I've just rebooted, and switched to tty when I got to the login point on the GUI. It's again denying me permission as regular user. [20:52] Fishercat_: and what are you trying to do again? [20:53] Its an actual IBM thinkpad. So might just not select it. The computer is for a non technical friend of mine. Would it be necessary to add a virus protection program? I never use one. But I kind of know the unsafe things on the internet. She does not at all I think. [20:53] wxl: The problem that brought me here: GUI is only accessable as guest user. Logging in to my home directory causes it to stick on the splash screen. [20:54] Fishercat_: don't log in to the gui. just go to tty at the login screen. [20:54] wxl: I just did that. It denied me permission to read syslog again. [20:54] Wait.. hang on. [20:54] Fishercat_: what command are you doing to read the syslog? [20:54] The one you just gave me: /var/log/syslog [20:55] Fishercat_: wrong. i said using "more" or "less" before the filename [20:55] wxl: Okay. So it should be: more/var/log/syslog? [20:55] Fishercat_: no. "more /var/log/syslog" [20:56] wxl: Will do [20:56] wxl: Oookay. That yielded STUFF. [20:57] wxl: What info there is pertinent? There's a screenful. [20:58] Fishercat_: look for errors. you might want to just put it up for us to look at. [20:58] !paste | Fishercat_ [20:58] Fishercat_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:00] wxl: I'm going to have to type it.. this is the laptop. [21:00] Fishercat_: um. just use pastebinit. [21:00] !pastebinit | Fishercat_ [21:00] Fishercat_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [21:01] wxl: The error messages are on the Linux box. I'm accessing IRC on the laptop. [21:02] Fishercat_: so you can type out the paste url. [21:03] wxl: Okay.. going to try pastebinit.. right back. [21:05] wxl: How do I get out of the syslog and back to the command prompt? (I'm sorry.. ) [21:05] Fishercat_: q [21:05] wxl: THANKS [21:05] Fishercat_: then do "cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" [21:05] Fishercat_: assuming you already have pastebinit installed [21:05] Fishercat_: if you don't "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit" [21:05] wxl: Don't know if I have it installed or not. Any way to tell, or should I just try it? [21:06] Fishercat_: you probably don't then [21:06] wxl: Okay. [21:09] newbi on lubuntu [21:09] actually on Kubuntu [21:10] is it hard [21:10] wxl: pastebinit is installed, have syslog back up. Now what? "q, ENTER, then pastebinit?" [21:10] Fishercat_: cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit [21:12] wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8824828 [21:14] nothing obvious Fishercat_ ; do the same with /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log [21:14] wxl: Will do. [21:16] wxl: "No such file or directory." For both /dmesg and Xorg.0.log. [21:19] I have a laptop with a really weird keyboard layout. It's very similar to this one I found on the internet. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/globalization/keyboards/KBD143.pdf. Some small things are different, but most of the things are in the same weird place. I have never seen anything like this. The keyboard recognition in the Lubuntu installer can not figure it out. How do I find out what version my keyboard is? Very strange keyboard. P [21:19] lease assist. Thanks in advance! [21:19] Hello [21:20] CAn someone please help me? [21:20] I ccan't seem to start xserver [21:20] Borbit: Your link is broken. [21:20] Squantiff: [ startx ] [21:20] It says no screens found [21:20] Squantiff: Did you install Xorg? [21:20] But lspci | grep VGA lists a compatible controller [21:20] Yesd [21:20] (Or uninstall it) [21:20] I did not uninstall it [21:20] What I did was I had it output through HDMI only [21:21] Then it froze, I rebooted, and now it won't display through either [21:22] xinit giving up xinit unable to connect to X server: Connection refused xinit: server error [21:22] Those ar ethe last three lines [21:22] Squantiff: Not to sound rude, but can you take your question to #ubuntu ? They might be able to help you better. [21:22] That is strange. The link works here. I got there from here http://www-01.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/keyboards/registry_index.html and then it's the dutch layout. [21:22] Fatal server error (EE) no screens found is above that [21:22] SonikkuAmerica not rude at all. Helpful in fact. Thank you very much for your guidance kind sir., [21:24] Can I uninstall xserver and fully reinstall? [21:24] Do you think it would help? [21:24] SonikkuAmerica: That is strange. The link works here. I got there from here http://www-01.ibm.com/software/globalization/topics/keyboards/registry_index.html and then it's the dutch layout. [21:24] So, the 143-key keyboard Borbit ? [21:25] SonikkuAmerica: Yes. [21:26] Borbit: Can you try manually selecting the keyboard layout? [21:27] Fishercat_: try "ls -al /var/log | pastebinit" [21:27] SonikkuAmerica: I have no idea what to select. Dutch don't work. The normal keyboards over here are very similar if not the same as a english international keyboard. [21:35] wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825111 [21:36] Fishercat_: i see both dmesg and Xorg.0.log there [21:36] wxl: Yup, so do I. [21:37] Fishercat_: so try "cat /var/log/dmesg | pastebinit" [21:37] SonnikuAmerica: I really don't have a clue here. I can't even think of a google search that would give any useful results. [21:37] wxl: Okay. [21:38] Anyone know of there is some irc room with people that are crazy about keyboard layouts? [21:38] wxl: http://paste/ubuntu.com/8825146 [21:40] Fishercat_: invalid url [21:40] wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825166 (Xorg.0.log) [21:40] testdr: s/paste\//paste\./ [21:41] nothing too terrible there [21:41] wxl: yep - did not see it at once - [21:41] try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit" Fishercat_ [21:41] wxl: I just did.. it's posted [16:40]. [21:42] oh derp [21:42] * genii slides wxl a fresh coffee [21:42] WXL: Dude, *you've* got nothing to say "derp" about.. [21:42] well that all looks good [21:43] something must be wrong with your user [21:43] wxl: *rolling eyes* Yeah, tell me something I didn't know.. [21:44] let's try this Fishercat_ "cat ~/.cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log | pastebinit" [21:45] wxl:http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825228/ [21:46] your user is "me"? [21:46] wxl: Yup. [21:47] nothing too weird there [21:47] wxl: Okay. [21:47] baffling [21:47] Fishercat_: you did upgrade today? There was no working 14.04 version before? [21:47] you got any weird autostart stuff running Fishercat_ ? [21:48] testdr: I upgraded last night. Today has been spent on attemped unf*cking shenanigans. [21:48] Fishercat_: and you have no backup? [21:48] wxl: Not as far as I know. [21:48] Fishercat_: careful with the language. we get kiddos in here every now and then. they know about asterisks. [21:48] let's figure out what you upgraded [21:48] testdr: No.. and yes, I know.. I'm already kicking myself. [21:48] wxl: My apologies. [21:50] Fishercat_: "cat /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit" [21:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8824304/ [21:51] Fishercat_: could it be, you have multiple mounts? Different disk-partitions? If anything fails -without backup - your old user-password-seetings are in /etc/shadow - you have to secure the whole /etc - but its a hard work and expensive (time consuming) to get the old user-data back. [21:51] um [21:51] don't think that's right Fishercat_ :) [21:51] wxl: Sorry.. typo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825304 [21:51] weird [21:52] you upgraded your system last night from one version to the next? [21:52] testdr: I don't *think* I originally set up different disk partitions. It's just a Linux box; nothing else on it. [21:52] wxl: Yes. Last night: 12.04 - 14.04. [21:53] Fishercat_: try "cat /var/log/apt/history.log | pastebinit" [21:53] Fishercat_: have you already tried to boot the old 12.04 ubuntu-live-install-iso (boot-usb-stick or cd/dvd) to check what data is still availabel in your user-home-directory? [21:53] not sure this will help, honestly. [21:54] wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825350 [21:55] * wxl sighs [21:55] testdr: No. It's possible I still have it somewhere, but it'll take a while to even find out if I do. [21:55] i might suggest making a new user, giving it admin rights, and seeing if there's problems there [21:55] if there's not, just move over stuff from your home as needed [21:56] wxl: How do I make a new user from tty? [21:57] Fishercat_: you should look for it and if you really need your old user data - you should check you still can read it and make a backup. it could be there is no easy way (commandline-trick) to fix what may went wrong and a complete new installation would be done in very littel time (compared to the time to search for what may gone totally wrong). [21:59] Fishercat_: sudo useradd some-name -D [21:59] that should give it default values like a home and stuff [22:00] you should then give it sudo access with "sudo usermod -aG sudo some-name" [22:00] wxl: Just confirming: if I wanted new user name "frustrating" sudo useradd frustrating-name -D is the correct sequence? [22:01] aw wait [22:01] wxl: am waiting [22:03] sudo adduser frustrating [22:03] wxl: Thanks. [22:03] then [22:03] sudo usermod -aG sudo frustrating [22:04] Oke I got the laptop op and running. If I want to connect to the wifi the button connect is grayed out. Like as if the password is to short or something. I am 100% sure i am using the correct password. [22:05] What could cause this? [22:05] Borbit: have you tried the lubuntu-live-version first and checked your hardware is working? [22:06] wxl: I've got the new user "frustrating," and am currently being prompted to enter the new value or press enter for the default. Prompt line says: "Full name []: " [22:06] wxl: Can I just hit enter? [22:06] Fishercat_: yep [22:06] testdr: Nope but the laptop is working [22:06] wxl. k [22:07] Borbit: ok - if you say its working, then the only possibility is you provide the wrong password or the correct password for the wrong wlan-encryption [22:07] If I type the first 5 letters of my wifi password the Connect button is clickeble. If I type in more letters it is grayed out. [22:08] Borbit: you are shure it is your wlan and not the neighbours one with different encryption? [22:08] wxl: Just did "sudo usermod -aG sudo frustrating" and am back to original username prompt. [22:08] So if I type the whole password I can not click. Is it possible that the wifi card is to outdated to support passwords with more then 5 letters. I don't think so? [22:09] Fishercat_: um, which one? [22:09] wxl: "me." [22:09] testdr: Yes. 100%. Just tested the password on my phone. It is not changed. I would know, I manage the router. [22:09] Fishercat_: the one that ends in a $? [22:10] wxl: Yup. [22:10] Fishercat_: then hit ctrl-alt-f7 and log in as frustrating [22:10] Borbit: if you manage it, whats the protocoll-version? What is the wlan-id? Did you select this id? [22:10] testdr: I can not click the "connect" button on the password dialog if I insert more then 5 characters. Weird. [22:11] Borbit: the easy short way would be you change the password to less than 6 chars - but i doubt this is the problem, i never saw this restriction if the encryption-level was available [22:12] testdr: It should not make a difference if I would have selected the wrong network. Even than I should at least be able to give a password longer than 5 symbols. [22:12] Borbit: to use more chars than 5 is normal - i can prove this with my setup. [22:13] testdr: I can not change the password. I'm fixing this laptop for a friend to use at university. [22:14] Borbit: thats why i did ask if the default boot of the ubuntu-live-iso did work. Maybe the install missed some wlan-chips-firmware. But it does not "sound" this way. [22:15] I don't think that is it. But I will try anyway. [22:15] Borbit: use the ubuntu-live-boot-version first to check. I can sent you to install additional firmware-pakets for non-default-installed wlan-chipset. But this make no sense without hardware specs. [22:15] Should have been the first thing I did! [22:15] Borbit: Seems like it's this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/304460/wifi-only-accepts-passwords-of-5-or-13-characters [22:17] Borbit: link of krytarik says it - could be a global wlan setup not working with old wlan-chipsets [22:17] testdr: I can not boot into the live mode as I have to force pea. [22:18] Borbit: that sounds like a realy old hardware - looks a lot like this hardware wont do the new encryption-standards for wlan. If a new usb-wlan-stick is available, try this .. [22:18] Yes I think this could be it. It's a very old wifi plugin card. So it might be configured for wep. [22:19] Borbit: one way it to use another local old wlan-router to supply this older wlan-connection (with the known security issues). [22:20] s/it/is/ [22:22] testdr: the laptop has to go out and connect to different wifi networks. It's not realistic to rig the city with old routers. [22:23] Borbit: then the only way is to buy a newer usb-wlan-stick - sorry, thats most time old harware goes out of usage [22:23] So I can go to network connections. Click my network, edit the settings. They are indeed standard on wep. How do I set it standard to wpa? [22:24] testdr: I'm not sure the stick does not support wpa? [22:25] I much prefer to keep using old hardware as long as it's fixable. [22:25] Borbit: check the hardware (lspci, lsusb - where the hardwar show its id) and use the manufacture or google to lookup its wlan-support [22:26] Borbit: i have old hardware still in use - but for example for such things i use a normal twisted-pair-network-connection. [22:29] testdr: Yes I will be able to find it on the google. It's a linksys wpc11 ver.3. [22:30] Is there a window overview equivalent commant in lubuntu like there is in OSX and some other OSes? [22:31] Borbit: older hardware is still usable for writing , simple media/grafik/audio-work - but not for a whole encryption. And is usb-2.0 is available i use a newer usb-wlan-stick or bluetooth stick and so on. [22:31] s/is/if) [22:32] testdr: It's one of those cards you slide into a laptop. [22:32] Borbit: than its so old -its without usb-slots? those old pcmia-slots? [22:33] testdr: No it does future 2 usb ports! [22:34] Borbit: a usb-wlan-stick (new one) is available for less than 20$ (some around 10?) [22:36] testdr: I have a slightly never slide in card. It's just missing most of the cover.