[08:57] <dpm_> t1mp, morning. Just noticed another bug that might be related to the work you were doing to fix the colors in themes -> bug 1389115
[09:17] <Justcarakas> ofter
[09:18] <Justcarakas> Sorry, was the autocomplete
[09:18] <Justcarakas> where does the feedback go from the feedbqck app ?
[09:29] <Justcarakas> Is nicholas skaggs online ?
[09:32] <gventuri> mihir: it would be great if I could install the latest branch
[09:32] <mihir> hi gventuri
[09:32] <gventuri> mihir: or if you could push an update
[09:32] <gventuri> mihir: up to you
[09:32] <mihir> gventuri: all the branches haven't merged yet.
[09:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Use Your Common Sense Day! :-D
[09:34] <mihir> gventuri: i'll update you with email once we have latest calendar in store or the way to install on your device, will work with popey and update you.
[09:34] <popey> 0+1
[09:35] <mihir> popey: almost branches are ready to land , on kunal's branch there are some AP failures on Jenkins side.
[09:36] <popey> ok
[09:36] <mihir> i'll talk to balloons tonight.
[09:36] <popey> which one?
[09:37] <popey> there's 8 of them ☻
[09:38] <popey> ahayzen: looks like victors branch landed 8 hours ago?
[09:38] <ahayzen> popey, yeah we landed it last night :)
[09:38] <popey> \o/
[09:39] <popey> ahayzen: got time to update etherpad?
[09:39] <ahayzen> popey, do you want me to make a changelog?
[09:39] <ahayzen> popey, yah gimme a sec
[09:39] <popey> yeah, then we'll send a mail to the usual suspects and then tomorrow push to ubuntu-phone list, okay?
[09:39] <mihir> popey: hahahah :D
[09:39] <mihir> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/Collection-Change/+merge/238950
[09:40] <ahayzen> popey, have you got a link to the etherpad, i'm at uni and can't remember the exact url
[09:40] <popey> ahayzen: http://pad.ubuntu.com/MusicAppReadMe
[09:40] <popey> thanks mihir
[09:40] <ahayzen> popey, thank
[09:40] <mihir> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/EmptyAttendee/+merge/239563
[09:41] <mihir> popey: it passes on machine but not Jenkins.
[09:41] <popey> mihir: are we hiding a button?
[09:41] <popey> because the tests fail due to a button not being found
[09:42] <ahayzen> popey, readme updated :)
[09:42] <popey> nice one, I'll send the mail in a few mins!
[09:42] <popey> click built
[09:42] <popey> _with_ revno ☻
[09:43] <ahayzen> popey, thanks :)
[09:45] <popey> brendand: davmor2 either of you want a copy of the latest music click for a bit of QA love?
[09:45] <popey> assuming you have a tiny bit of time to test it
[09:45] <brendand> popey, might have
[09:45] <brendand> popey, click me up
[09:45] <davmor2> popey: we all want the new music app
[09:46] <ahayzen> \o/
[09:46] <popey> muhahah, opted in!
[09:46] <popey> thanks guys
[09:46] <ahayzen> thanks :)
[09:46] <ahayzen> hopefully there won't be too many issues ;) hehe
[09:46] <popey> ahayzen: quick, run and hide!
[09:46]  * ahayzen hides under desk
[09:48]  * mihir yells in work place :P yay!!! new music app on my mako :D
[09:48] <popey> haha
[09:49] <davmor2> ahayzen: dude seriously if you are going to hide under a desk get one with solid sides
[09:49] <ahayzen> davmor2, noted lol
[09:56] <popey> mail sent
[09:56] <ahayzen> thanks popey
[09:56]  * popey rocks out
[09:58]  * davmor2 locks popey in the little padded room till he calms back down again
[09:59] <davmor2> popey: ahayzen: I won't touch this till tonight E:too_many_reflashes
[09:59] <popey> np
[09:59] <popey> thanks!
[09:59] <ahayzen> davmor2, no worries
[10:00] <popey> speakers on krillin are so much better than mako
[10:00] <popey> mind you, mako speaker firing into the table doesnt help
[10:00] <davmor2> popey: way better infact
[10:00] <ahayzen> popey, use a bluetooth speaker :)
[10:01] <popey> duh oh yes
[10:01]  * popey goes and gets his bt speaker
[10:01] <davmor2> popey: get a clean cup, put each of the devices in it playing music, at that point you will suddenly appreciate the real difference of the krillin loud speaker
[10:02] <popey> clean cup!?
[10:02] <ahayzen> not one full of water?
[10:02] <davmor2> popey: it acts as an amplifier
[10:02] <popey> full of washing up liquid he means
[10:02] <ahayzen> +1
[10:02] <popey> yeah, been doing that for years with iphone.
[10:06] <t1mp> popey: at the last sprint we tried with my phone in a full cup but the sound is kind of muted then ;)
[10:07] <popey> hah
[10:07] <popey> well the good news is that I just paired with a bluetooth speaker and the music just carried on seamlessly
[10:07] <t1mp> a waterproof phone is still handy.. just not very useful for playing music under water :)
[10:07] <mzanetti> popey: yep, that works quite nicely now :)
[10:08] <mzanetti> popey: one thing I find not that good though, when you disconnect headphones (regardless if cable or bluetooth) it continues playing through the phone's speaker
[10:08] <mzanetti> popey: I am used from all my previous phones that they pause in that case
[10:09] <ahayzen> mzanetti, this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1332884
[10:09] <mzanetti> ahayzen: correct :) thanks a lot
[10:09] <popey> ☻
[10:10] <mzanetti> ahayzen: just installed the latest package from popey's mail
[10:10] <mzanetti> doesn't start
[10:10] <ahayzen> mzanetti, uhoh
[10:10] <popey> wfm
[10:10] <popey> you starting using search in dash?
[10:10] <ahayzen> mzanetti, define "doesn't start", anything in the logs?, and as popey said have you searched in the dash?
[10:11] <mzanetti> still checking out... I've seen this before. it recovers on the 3rd try or so usually
[10:11] <popey> you didnt already have it running did you?
[10:11] <mzanetti> no, didn't search in the dash. I thought that issue would be fixed
[10:11] <mzanetti> nope, freshly upgraded rtm branch phone
[10:12] <ahayzen> yeah you need to search in the dash after installing the new click
[10:12] <popey> which should be a topblocker IMHO
[10:12] <t1mp> dpm: ok, I confirmed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1389115
[10:12] <mzanetti> hmm... I really thougth that would have been fixed
[10:12] <mzanetti> but yeah, seems to do the trick
[10:16] <cgi> hello guys, I have a question. why my ubuntu sdk couldnt find qtquick 2.3? im using ubuntu 14.04
[10:17] <mihir> cgi: are you getting any errors while running an app?
[10:17] <mzanetti> ahayzen: small request: could the app remember in which tab I left it? currently it always starts up at albums, I tend to use only artists though
[10:17] <mzanetti> so I always have to switch tab after restarting the app
[10:18] <ahayzen> mzanetti, interesting we discussed this.... basically what i does at the moment is if you have no recent it goes to Albums if you have recent it starts on the recent page
[10:19] <mzanetti> right... /me basically never uses things like "recent". There has yet an algorithm to show up which gets useful stuff out of my behavior
[10:20] <ahayzen> mzanetti, hah yeah i sortof agree with starting on the previous tab (as we restore the queue as well now)...but would have to get it past victor, jouni ... any preferences popey ? ^^
[10:22] <popey> yeah, recent is a strange one...
[10:22] <popey> I frequently listen to the same album, so you'd think recent was the right thing to do
[10:22] <popey> but I almost immediately switch away from recent to any other view, usually albums
[10:23] <popey> so one for jouni I think ㋛
[10:24] <mzanetti> I guess its fair to have it, I totally see the use case for it. But not necessarily the default thing to show up
[10:24] <mzanetti> what's the criteria for something to end up in recent?
[10:25] <ahayzen> mzanetti, play an album or playlist
[10:25] <mzanetti> because I played 3 songs of an album now and recent is still empty
[10:25] <mzanetti> do I need to play the full album?
[10:25] <ahayzen> mzanetti, its a bit messy at the moment though only certain ways add it
[10:28]  * ahayzen adds to his list to try and improve recent tracking
[10:28] <mzanetti> ahayzen: another thing I'd do a bit different is that genres gives me a list of all songs of that genre. I'd still prefer a list of albums or even artists
[10:29] <ahayzen> mzanetti, hmmm not sure if the models would allow us to do that
[10:29]  * ahayzen checks
[10:30] <mzanetti> like for instance xbmc does it:
[10:30] <mzanetti> you select a genre, then you get a list with "All", "ArtistA", "ArtistB"...
[10:30] <ahayzen> mzanetti, ah no we should be ok genre is an option on all of the models by the looks of it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mediascanner-team/mediascanner2/trunk/view/head:/src/qml/Ubuntu/MediaScanner/plugin.qmltypes
[10:31] <mzanetti> clicking on "All" would give the list as it is now, all songs from the genre (or maybe all albums from that genre)
[10:31] <ahayzen> mzanetti, would we need all? as we have the play/queue all at the top
[10:31] <mzanetti> clicking on ArtistA would give you all albums of that artist and that genre
[10:31] <mzanetti> right, yeah, that's basically it...
[10:31] <ahayzen> mzanetti, and then would Genre->Artist->Album->Songs->Queue or Genre->Album->Songs->Queue
[10:31] <ahayzen> thats quite a bit of depth there
[10:32] <mzanetti> yeah, but you can leave it at any point by using the play/queue button
[10:32] <mzanetti> so you only get the depth if you really want to do fine grained searches
[10:33] <ahayzen> yeah we'll have to discuss that with jouni
[10:33] <ahayzen> mzanetti, what would you expect the art to be on the genre items.... as this is an area for improvement at the moment
[10:33] <mzanetti> I kinda like how it is atm
[10:34] <mzanetti> mixing album covers of that genre
[10:35] <mzanetti> other than that... no showstoppers found here. I didn't really test playlist handling though.
[10:35] <mzanetti> popey: ^
[10:35] <ahayzen> mzanetti, only certain users use playlists
[10:35] <mzanetti> yep, I'm not one of them
[10:36] <ahayzen> same i just play an album usually
[10:36] <ahayzen> mzanetti, thanks for testing and the feedback :)
[10:36] <mzanetti> imo the app is good to go. huge improvement
[10:36] <mzanetti> thanks for the app :)
[10:37] <ahayzen> mzanetti, no problem hopefully we'll get it in the store in time :)
[10:37] <mzanetti> I'm sure you will
[10:38] <popey> \o/
[11:38] <vitimiti> I am trying to make a small game in which I need to combine several animations. One of them is an animation that should make the sprite fall non-stop but, when the screen is clicked, it should go up some pixels and then continue the fall. Where can I find a tutorial on how to do this? All I can do is like "reset" the y coordinates so the sprite always appears in the upper part of the screen when I click
[13:36] <dpm> hi vitimiti, if there is no one around that can help with your question, you might want to ask it on http://www.askubuntu.com/questions/ask?tags=application-development
[13:38] <vitimiti> dpm, thanks, I will be doing so in a moment
[14:12] <balloons> ping nik90
[14:12] <nik90> balloons: ping
[14:12] <nik90> pong
[14:15] <balloons> nik90, :-) So I have a question about the keyboard overlaying content. You remember my feedback app right? It seems the input box is overlaid by the keyboard, making it rather difficult to use. Is there an easy way to make sure the input will scroll up to make room for the keyboard?
[14:16] <nik90> balloons: ah yes, you will need to use a Flickable for that and set the anchorToKeyboard variable to true in the mainview
[14:16] <balloons> I figured I needed a flickable, but I wasn't sure how it all needed to be setup
[14:17] <nik90> I remember playing around with your branch long time back, but ran into an issue at the time
[14:17] <balloons> ohh right! I do remember that
[14:20] <nik90> balloons: I found my old branch that I was working on https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/+junk/feedback-improvements
[14:20] <nik90> balloons: however it only has the new header transition code
[14:21] <rpadovani> Hey, where could I fill a suggestion about brightness indicator?
[14:22] <popey> there's a brightness indicator? indicator-power probably rpadovani
[14:23] <nik90> popey: hey, I just got a very generic email from you about Clock UOS Session. But I already created a session myself at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22337/clock-app/
[14:23] <nik90> is that the one you were referring to in your email?
[14:23] <popey> oh ☹
[14:23] <popey> no, i created a bunch
[14:23] <popey> i didnt see yours
[14:23] <balloons> nik90, I'll try your suggestion thanks
[14:24] <nik90> ah ..well I can delete mine, but just need to make sure that you add http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-clock-app to the session you created
[14:24] <nik90> popey: ^^
[14:24] <popey> approved it
[14:24] <popey> its fine
[14:24] <nik90> popey: k
[14:24] <popey> I'll delete mine
[14:24] <popey> well, i would if I could ☻
[14:24] <nik90> ack
[14:25] <rpadovani> popey, yap, that one
[14:25] <nik90> popey: I guess we need to ask mhall119 for that
[14:26] <popey> I marked it "removed"
[14:26] <popey> which I think is as much as I can do
[14:26] <popey> rpadovani: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bugs ?
[14:26] <rpadovani> popey, <3
[14:26] <nik90> popey, rpadovani: do you guys have the bug where the incoming call volume is barely audible?
[14:26] <nik90> rpadovani: btw hi :)
[14:27] <popey> not seen that
[14:27] <nik90> I tried increasing the volume slider both in the system settings app and the indicator, but still can barely hear you
[14:27] <nik90> s/you/it
[14:27] <rpadovani> nik90, hi :-) Nope, I had a call 3 minutes ago and I have no problem
[14:27] <nik90> hmm strange
[14:28] <popey> did you try the volume buttons?
[14:28] <popey> they're independent
[14:28] <nik90> I can try, but I notice that when pressing the volume buttons I don't see the snap notification anymore although the indicator shows the volume is increasing
[14:30] <popey> hmm
[14:30] <popey> dont know then, sorry.
[14:30] <popey> nik90: what time slot do you want your clock app meeting in?
[14:31] <nik90> let me check my calendar
[14:33] <nik90> popey: 12th Nov, 18:00 UTC?
[14:35] <popey> ok
[14:37] <popey> nik90: done.
[14:37] <nik90> thnx
[14:59] <rpadovani> hey popey, did you receive my mail about reminders app for UOS?
[14:59]  * popey looks
[15:00] <rpadovani> popey, anyway, Friday 15:00 UTC will be the best for mzanetti and I
[15:00] <popey> rpadovani: done!
[15:00] <popey> thanks!
[15:00] <rpadovani> thanks to you! dpm FYI ^^
[15:58] <nik90> rpadovani: hey, can I bother you with a review for https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/implement-location-finding/+merge/231793?
[15:59] <nik90> rpadovani: I need it only by the end of the week. so there's time
[15:59] <rpadovani> nik90, sure. Could you please assign it to me so I can have a mail reminder? Thanks!
[16:00] <nik90> rpadovani: yup will do, thnx
[16:00] <nik90> rpadovani: disclaimer, this one is big
[16:00] <rpadovani> nik90, more fun :D
[16:01] <nik90> :)
[16:05] <balloons> nik90, so my branch is updated with a flickable and the start of your header changes (which don't seem to be complete). Anyways, if you run revision 12, you'll notice the field doesn't automove when the keyboard appears. How can I achieve this?
[16:05] <nik90> balloons: did you set the anchorsToKeyboard variable to true in the MainView{} ?
[16:05] <balloons> nik90, mmm.. no I don't think so
[16:06]  * balloons tries
[16:06] <nik90> in mainView, there are other property like automaticOrientation, deprecatedToolbar etc etc...right below define anchorToKeyboard: true
[16:06] <nik90> that should anchor the bottom of your app to the keyboard
[16:06] <nik90> so if the flickable is anchored to the app bottom, then it will be shifted up when the osk is shown
[16:09] <balloons> nik90, AHH! That makes sense
[16:10] <t1mp> nik90: hello
[16:10] <nik90> t1mp: hey hey :)
[16:10] <t1mp> nik90: I started to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1381008 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1332092
[16:10] <t1mp> nik90: if I fix the default size of the switch, will you no longer need to change the size of the switch?
[16:11] <nik90> t1mp: yes
[16:11] <t1mp> uhm..
[16:11] <t1mp> so then I don't need to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1332092
[16:11] <t1mp> but actually... why would I not fix that one? ;)
[16:11] <t1mp> nevermind, I see if I can fix both independently :)
[16:11] <nik90> t1mp: :)
[16:13] <t1mp> gventuri: hello
[16:13] <t1mp> gventuri: for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1381008 do you have exact specs for the switch size, or maybe a screenshot with a grid of grid-units overlaid?
[16:14] <nik90> t1mp: doesn't https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/FKDbZuATiIbIrb2d6merZE1eC1ZJRf4Awz7ZFIIVvEDSfSbJbrAWWmZeMCZAt5FG show that?
[16:16] <t1mp> nik90: I get a 403 on that
[16:16] <t1mp> but the link in the bug description works
[16:17] <nik90> ah..
[16:17] <balloons> nik90, ok, so I think I'm left now with an anchoring problem as the fields go offscreen now :-)
[16:17] <t1mp> nik90: ahh, yes
[16:17] <t1mp> nik90: you are right. The link has two images in it and I was looking at the wrong one :) thanks
[16:17] <nik90> t1mp: yw
[16:18] <nik90> balloons: well if they go offscreen, the user will need to scroll the page up to see more of the content..
[16:18] <nik90> or may be I am misunderstanding this...got a screenshot?
[16:18] <t1mp> nik90: actually it appears to me that the doc is showing the old (large) size
[16:19] <t1mp> but maybe the image is just a higher resolution
[16:19] <balloons> nik90, lol.. So the app has a few textareas on screen. The top 3 work fine with the keyboard covering the bottom. The last one needs to move up when the keyboard appears so you can see what you are typing. That's the behavoir I would like
[16:19] <nik90> I am not sure, best wait for giorgio then
[16:21] <balloons> the behavoir I have now is the entire page moves up anytime I tap into a textarea
[16:21] <balloons> that means the top textareas all go offscreen when you edit them
[16:21] <nik90> balloons: hmm, I will have to run it to understand better..but I think that's the bug I faced when I was trying to add a flickable to your app :P
[16:23] <nik90> balloons: does rev 12, have the issue?
[16:24] <balloons> nik90, yes. take rev 12 and add     anchorToKeyboard: true
[16:24] <balloons> note it's anchor, not anchors :-)
[16:26] <balloons> nik90, apparently the behavoir I'm after (which is a sensible default really) used to work. Something seems to have changed in the newer images that causes the field to be hidden on entry
[16:26] <balloons> that is, without a flickable or the anchor property, etc.. My old code
[16:27] <gventuri> t1mp: What file are you looking at?
[16:28] <nik90> balloons: I am pretty sure the textfield was covered by the keyboard in older images as well..well atleast that was my personal experience when trying to submit feedback
[16:28] <nik90> balloons: I get an error file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.developer.nskaggs.feedback/0.3/feedback.qml:181 Cannot assign to non-existent property "head" when trying to run rev 12..
[16:32] <t1mp> gventuri: I was looking at the file that shows all the components, but I didn't realize that there was another file with the grid-overlay, exactly what I was looking for :)
[16:33] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu-on-air is on now!
[16:33] <balloons> nik90, that's your header changes. I should have just left them out I guess
[16:33] <t1mp> gventuri: so my problem is already solved
[16:34] <balloons> nik90, I pushed rev15 which is what I'm working with atm
[16:36] <gventuri> t1mp: indeed
[16:36] <gventuri> t1mp: can you double check the checkbox as well
[16:36] <t1mp> gventuri: okay
[16:36] <gventuri> t1mp: if it's the right size
[16:36] <gventuri> t1mp: since you are there
[16:37] <nik90> balloons: yeah I get the issue you have...it is so strange
[16:37] <nik90> balloons: I use flickables on a daily basic, :/
[16:41] <balloons> nik90, well is it a bug, or just a poor layout I've used or ?
[16:42] <nik90> balloons: well I think it is a bug in your code, though I am unable to debug it. I am going to start fresh with 4-5 textfield similar to your app and see if I can reproduce the issue
[16:56] <balloons> nik90, I'm happy to redesign the app.. It needs some actual UI love. I have none to give it
[16:56] <balloons> and the current issues are systematic of the UI layout
[17:18] <balloons> nik90, any luck?
[17:41] <akiva-thinkpad> mihir, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSTmkvn060E
[18:59] <nik90> balloons: apply the following codediff http://paste.ubuntu.com/8823226/
[18:59] <nik90> balloons: that should fix the issue
[19:00] <mhall119> rpadovani: "I prefer writing code than watching TV haha." so it's not just me :)
[19:07] <balloons> nik90, oO
[19:08] <balloons> nik90, ohh nice, that makes sense
[19:08] <nik90> balloons: do you code in qtc?
[19:08] <balloons> yep
[19:09] <nik90> it looks like your indentation is messed up..can you press Ctrl+A andn then ctrl+I to autoindent the code
[19:09] <balloons> nik90, I was looking for something that would do that, thanks
[19:09] <nik90> I didn't want to do it (despite my innerself compelling me to do so) since it would generate a huge codediff
[19:09] <nik90> ;)
[19:11] <mihir> popey: I don't see any session on calendar for uos, have you created on?
[19:11] <popey> I have but it's not scheduled
[19:11] <popey> you guys need to say when
[19:11] <mihir> one*
[19:12] <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/all/ it's there
[19:12] <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/all/
[19:12] <popey> bah
[19:12] <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22343/calendar-planning/
[19:12] <mihir> popey: okay I see,  need to ask Kunal first
[19:13] <mihir> rpadovani: what's best time for you on calculator
[19:55] <rpadovani> mhall119, I only watch only one tv series, and I watch it on demand on pc when I want to relax :-)
[20:11] <aquarius> what's the best way to lay out an Ubuntu app which has a textbox at the top and then a listview below which is longer than the screen? If we didn't have the header, I'd just put the textbox at the top of the screen and then have the listview in a flickable taking up the rest of the screen... but with the scrollaway header, I'm a bit confused how to do it
[20:11] <aquarius> I do not want the textbox to scroll away.
[20:14] <nik90> aquarius: then why don't you make the header not scrollaway and then put the textfield in the header?
[20:14] <aquarius> 'cos that's not what headers are for, right
[20:14] <aquarius> ?
[20:14] <nik90> well something headers shows important stuff and disabling its scrollaway behavior is acceptable
[20:15] <nik90> but anyway, why put the textfield and the listview inside a column?
[20:15] <aquarius> why put?
[20:15] <nik90> let the column fill the entire page, this way the textfield is always shown in the top and the listview below it will scroll as expected
[20:16] <nik90> I meant "why not put"
[20:16] <aquarius> um. I don't think it works like that, does it?
[20:17] <nik90> you mean design wise or technically?
[20:17] <aquarius> technically
[20:17] <nik90> technically, I don't see why it shouldn't work.
[20:17] <aquarius> 'cos the whole column scrolls away?
[20:18] <nik90> no it won't since the column is set the fill the entire page by anchors.fill: parent
[20:18] <nik90> and the listview height: parent.height - textfield.height
[20:18] <aquarius> confused what happens to the header then
[20:19] <nik90> the header won't move or be affected in anyway
[20:19] <aquarius> right. but I *want* the header to scroll away :)
[20:19] <nik90> although I understand your problem now
[20:19] <nik90> right
[20:21] <nik90> aquarius: how about placing the textfield inside the listview header component? http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-listview.html#header-prop
[20:22] <nik90> I haven't used this before
[20:22] <nik90> bah nevermind, since it will still not hide the header I think
[20:24] <aquarius> hm, header of a listview! didn't know about that
[21:23] <aquarius> how do I put my installed emulator on a different channel?
[21:33] <popey> aquarius: --channel=foo
[21:33] <popey> when you create the emulator
[21:34] <aquarius> creating the emulator doesn't offer a channel option (I do it from Ubuntu SDK) -- I can pick "devel", "devel-proposed", and "stable", and that's it :(
[21:39] <popey> you can do it from the command line...
[21:39] <aquarius> popey, ah, I'm not supposed to be able to upgrade an emulator from Ubuntu SDK?
[21:40] <aquarius> ok, if that's the way, I'll file a bug about it :)
[21:40] <popey> upgrade yes
[21:40] <popey> change channel.. thats different
[21:40] <popey> oh sorry, I'm confusing emulator and kit
[21:40] <popey> brainfart
[21:41] <aquarius> yeah -- I can't see how to switch the channel of an emulator (and perhaps that is indeed not doable, and that's arguably correct), but I can't see how to *create* an emulator with a particular channel either. I created one with "devel", and I'm already being told in bugs that it's out of date, despite being about only a six week old release ;)
[21:43] <nik90> aquarius: via command line I create emulators by, "ubuntu-emulator create myemulator --arch=i386 --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09"
[21:43] <nik90> replace the channel with whatever you choose to
[21:44] <aquarius> and that will add that emulator to the devices pane in Ubuntu SDK?
[21:44] <nik90> Qtcreator at the moment, provides the option to select devel, devel-proposed channels but not rtm..I believe there is a critical bug about this already
[21:44] <nik90> yes
[21:44] <aquarius> OK
[21:44] <aquarius> I did look for a bug about it but couldn't find one :)
[21:44]  * nik90 looks for it
[21:45] <nik90> aquarius: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1387299
[21:45] <aquarius> aah: "image channels" is the magic phrase here!
[21:45] <aquarius> cheers
[21:45]  * aquarius affects-me's the bug
[21:45] <nik90> looks like it has been fixed...just waiting to be released...you are in luck ;)
[21:48] <aquarius> ya, noticed that :) I shall wait for the fix to arrive, yay!