[06:50] Good morning [06:52] guten tag pitti! [06:52] hey larsu! === maxb_ is now known as maxb [07:59] good morning desktopers! [08:04] morning [08:05] morning [08:05] lut didrocks [08:05] ça va mieux ? [08:05] hey mlankhorst [08:06] seb128: encore une barre à la tête, donc pas encore complètement guéri… [08:06] et toi ? [08:06] ça va bien moi ! [08:08] did you upload the change default language pack to french to ubuntu yet? [08:10] ok, so 2 emails + a bug report with 3 people who noticed that google broke the android studio download over the week-end [08:10] so it means people are using udtc [08:10] * didrocks prepares a release with a fix [08:13] what google changed? [08:15] two things [08:16] the first one that I can fix easily [08:16] md5sum -> sha1 [08:16] the second is more complex, they don't ship the sdk with the editor anymore [08:16] I will let people setting it up for now, I can't find a way to "register" the sdk easily without any gui [08:16] but I don't find it easy to find [08:16] I guess the android studio dev team have a plan [08:20] that's likely [08:21] that's why I don't want to invest in a workaround for now until it's more clear [08:22] yeah, makes sense [08:38] Laney, I guess you are fine with https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1346483/+merge/239230 now? [08:50] morning all [08:54] hey willcooke [08:54] * didrocks releases udtc fix now [08:57] hey willcooke [08:57] willcooke, do you still plan to fix the ubuntu version/logo issues yourself or should somebody else have a look? [08:58] seb128, Well, I could take a look, but I want to get these blueprints done, these docs finished, etc etc. So if someone wants to do it now, please feel free - if not, I can get to it in the next week or so === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ [09:00] willcooke, well, it's going to take me 1 minute to change it for the control center and lightdm, it's just that you said you were interested to do that yourself, so we can also let it for you [09:01] seb128, you crack on it with - you can show me what to do at some point [09:01] k [09:01] willcooke, other topic for you [09:01] well, if willcooke wants to do, there is really no hurry before the first alpha to have this done === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ [09:02] didrocks, there is not, it's just that while we think about it I would have put the mps up so we can forget about it [09:03] +1 - get it done [09:03] doing so [09:03] willcooke, so, other topic, when you see robert_ancell can you ask about bug #1388875 [09:03] bug 1388875 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "[gtk-mir-backend] Clicking seems to confuse GTK (or the shell)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1388875 [09:04] I mentioned it in Washington and tried via email [09:04] but that got little traction [09:04] seb128, sure thing - I spoke with his last night, but I can follow up on email [09:04] did you speak about gtkmir/that bug? [09:04] no [09:04] I just would like to know if anyone is going to look at it/who [09:05] if Robert is not interested it would be good to know so we can try to find somebody else [09:05] or bounce to the Mir team if that's on their side [09:05] morning [09:05] seb128: looking good [09:06] Laney, hey, how are you? [09:07] chilly [09:07] it's pretty foggy today too [09:07] otherwise good ;-) [09:07] you? [09:07] I'm good thanks! [09:11] hey seb128, hey Laney [09:11] bonjour didrocks [09:11] hey pitti, wie gehts? [09:12] seb128: gut, danke! [09:12] hey pitti [09:16] pitti: hey! === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ [10:30] soooooooooooooooooooo 3.14 [10:30] pies [10:30] http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/gedit3.14.png [10:30] toolbar buttons have a border [10:30] I like it! [10:33] a glittering career in visual design awaits [10:33] :D [10:33] & http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/lightdm.jpg [10:33] Laney: that's so 10 years ago [10:33] I like it! [10:33] (also, good morning) [10:33] what's up [10:34] ceiling [10:34] I didn't even need to ping you :-) [10:34] (haha) [10:34] * larsu lurks [10:34] I should have irssi highlight a few keywords besides my nick... [10:34] and the 'no icon' thing in gedit is a down arrow [10:34] what up with that [10:35] also no ctrl+shift+i :( [10:35] didn't we see some arrow icons missing in some test? [10:35] hm, this is an old gedit though [10:35] possibly === tiheum is now known as tiheum_ [10:35] does `GTK_DEBUG=interactive gedit` work? [10:35] yes this works [10:35] I'll look into that === tiheum_ is now known as tiheum [10:37] yeah installing adwaita-icon-theme gets those back [10:40] so we should probably depend on that... [10:42] probably best to get those icons in our theme [10:42] could copy them ... *cough* [10:42] * larsu hands Laney a cough drop [10:47] * didrocks will gladly welcome it btw [10:48] 'it'? [10:48] the cough drop :) [10:48] still ill? :( [10:48] ah ogra_, finally sharing it! velocity is getting down :) [10:48] Laney: yeah, better, but not done yet :/ [10:48] Laney: was getting better on Friday, and then, starting to be worse and worse until yesterday [10:49] doh [10:49] didrocks, its the fault of the ML archives ... it got slow, so sil2100 only shares landing stuff late, that made me go lazy [10:49] ogra_: heh, still faster than willcooke or popey to notice I guess! :) [10:49] yeah, these slackers [10:49] Laney: yeah, starting to get tired of being sick :p [10:49] honey and lemon! [10:50] wat wat wat [10:50] Laney: I'm almost exclusively on that + pain killer since last week :/ [10:51] didrocks: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/85z5SxwbWko [10:51] you're welcome [10:51] popey: thanks ;) [10:52] popey: is the photo your cat? [10:52] nope [10:52] its one I stole off t'internet [10:52] on only connect yesterday... [10:53] one of the questions had first clue "Salem" [10:53] totally got 5 points on that one [10:54] Sabrina? [10:54] witches cats [10:54] ah [10:54] #3 was crookshanks [10:55] i want this cat http://media2.giphy.com/media/BGf3BlE8sd2O4/200.gif [10:56] you want an exploding cat? [10:56] didrocks: hope you get better soon, man [10:56] larsu: thanks [10:57] larsu: gnome bug #729565 [10:57] Gnome bug 729565 in general "add icons that are suitable as replacement for GtkArrow" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729565 [10:57] we probably can just copy these tbh [10:57] wait way [10:57] wait wat [10:57] * willcooke reads backlog [10:57] http://paste.debian.net/130208 [10:58] didrocks, no fair - I didn't get my prior warning :) [10:58] willcooke: heh, the message was short enough to not bother you for a reread! no worry :) [10:58] bah [10:58] I demand first sharing rights :D [10:59] ahah [10:59] anyway, great job didrocks, as always [11:00] the rest of you could learn a thing or two from didrocks [11:00] ;D [11:00] Laney: thanks. Not sure what the licencing situation is on our theme [11:00] *licensing [11:01] willcooke: well, technically, the work has mostly be done by the community, I'm just stealing credits :) [11:02] didrocks, you have learnt well grasshopper [11:02] popey, what's all this Chromium crash business? Is it chromium? [11:03] dear design, please draw 4 arrows and an ≡ sign [11:03] Laney: what char is it? [11:03] alt+xxx? [11:04] something like ▼ [11:04] ah, a full one [11:04] for menus and stuff [11:06] they are actually both under the CC-BY-SA-3.0 [11:08] both themes, you mean? [11:08] yes [11:09] cool. let's take that, then [11:09] I'll make a MP [11:09] thanks! [11:15] hmm [11:15] hold on one second [11:17] the adwaita icon theme is a rename / merge of the current gnome icon theme + symbolic icons [11:17] maybe we should indeed update our icon theme to inherit from this one now [11:17] yeah, adwaita is basically gnome3-icon-theme or something :) [11:18] and it's just a rename/rebrand afaik [11:18] there were never separate branches [11:18] right [11:18] I guess we want to do that instead of copying the icons in then [11:18] depends on whether you wanna save space on the default install [11:18] theoretically you could pull the icons in that you need [11:19] we (xubuntu) have done that for a while [11:19] but yeah, it's work every release... [11:20] blerg [11:21] just as with gtk themes needing to be patched up every release for the new gtk3 version ;) [11:23] yeaaaaaaaaah gnome-icon-theme has a crazy split going on [11:24] mlankhorst: hi, I have a interessting crash here and I wonder if you have a idea. if I run glxgears on 14.10/amd64 its fine. if I run glxgears in a click 14.10/amd64 chroot with /dev /proc etc availalbe and DISPLAY set it crashes. ltrace shows glClear() as the last thing, strace is less helpful. crash happens in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so. any idea? [11:24] Laney: yeah, i think you basically need to pull in -full to be safe [11:36] mvo_: mount shmfs [11:36] mvo_: without tmpfs dri3 won't work :) [11:36] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=415681 [11:36] mlankhorst: \o/ [11:37] mlankhorst: and it works like magic, you rock! [11:37] np [11:40] :) excellent === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [11:48] tiheum: i guess there are still no concrete plans for bringing your icon-theme to unity on the desktop..? [12:01] larsu: uploaded the icon theme, so just the button fixes are left AFAICS [12:04] Laney: thanks a lot. I'll have a look at those after lunch [12:20] ochosi: At the moment, we are 100% focused on the phone. I can't say anyting concerning the desktop. [12:24] tiheum: ok, good to know though. thanks [12:38] willcooke: fridays 1on1 won't work :) [12:42] pitti: do you see any issues with uploading gnome-terminal now? [12:55] larsu: hmm, checkboxes look weird too (no background) [12:56] Laney: ya, I noticed that too [12:56] also, I wanted to lunch [12:56] :( [12:56] why can't you? [12:57] I can, I just didn't, yet [12:57] fixing an i-message bug [12:57] nod [12:57] we're having rosti [12:58] yum yum [12:58] bon apetite! [12:59] apparently it's rösti [13:00] it is [13:00] * larsu understood, though [13:00] going for lunch as well now, you made me hungry [13:01] guten appetit [13:01] thanks! [13:17] blerg^2, vte broke api between 0.36 and 0.38 [13:24] Laney: I tested it, and the only issue (but major) is that gnome-terminal-migrate doesn't seem to work [13:25] Laney: i. e. your profile config is gone [13:25] Laney: the migration is being called at start, but it only creates a single dconf key and none of the profile configs [13:25] hmm [13:25] ok we should fix that [13:25] Laney: sorry, I was fairly sure that this worked the last time I tested it, but apparently I did some error [13:25] (with testing that) [13:28] No worries, I'll set up a VM after lunch and poke it [13:28] mlankhorst, doh! I knew that too. Will move. [13:56] if you haven't already seen it: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-science-behind-the-ebb-and-flow-of-ubuntu-unitys-popularity/ [14:04] Laney: FTR, testing with a fresh user is a lot simpler (gnome-terminal{,-data} up/downgrades well) [14:04] Laney: another potentially useful thing from my bash history is: dconf reset -f /org/gnome/terminal/ [14:04] Laney: you need that after downgrading to re-do the migration [14:05] Laney: so this iteration works fastest: install new g-t, run gnome-terminal-migrate, investigate, run dconf reset -f /org/gnome/terminal/ [14:05] so the turnaround is < 1 s [14:38] willcooke: it's not a bad article, but i'm not sure where the "science" comes in... [14:39] ochosi, :) yes === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [14:41] hello everyone [14:42] seb128: I have adobe-flash package that I'd like to be uploaded to partners repo. Do you know who I should talk to? [14:42] Sweetshark: hi, could you please take a look at bug #1386170? there is a user who would be very happy with having it fixed in the libreoffice ppa for precise [14:42] bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice startup center shorcut broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386170 [15:00] dgadomski: do you have a better rationale than "user would be happy" to priotize this over the 700 launchpad and 3000 upstream bugs? Esp. since the user is asking for help on the oldest supported release and an unsupported ppa no less? [15:04] Sweetshark: unfortunately not, however I have seen you fixing a similar bug #1200277, if that would be ok with you I would gladly fix it and provide you with the fix in any preferred form [15:04] bug 1200277 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "[LibreOffice] - libreoffice-writer.desktop when drag/drop to desktop, 100% broken. " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1200277 [15:07] dgadomski: patches are always welcome of course! (either a debdiff or a git format-patch of a commit against the branch http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git/log/?h=ubuntu-precise-3.5 would be great). [15:08] eh [15:09] dgadomski: forget the git patch thing. you dont want the fix against -3-5 but against something newer in the ppa. [15:11] Sweetshark: yes, it would be ok to have it fixed for 4.3 [15:12] * didrocks looks at Sweetshark and grrr at libroffice "doc repair" which never gets last minutes of edits [15:14] dgadomski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1386170/comments/2 [15:14] Ubuntu bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice startup center shorcut broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:14] * Sweetshark hands didrocks a cookie. [15:15] (of course, thats for the hypothetical scenario that LibreOffice crashes, which never happens.) [15:15] Sweetshark: lost 15 minutes of work, I would need some hot chocolate with it :/ [15:16] * Sweetshark stirs some hot chocolate for didrocks. [15:16] thanks! [15:16] Sweetshark: well, I think there are problems with reproducing this on trusty due to bug #1241972 [15:16] bug 1241972 in Unity 7.2 "Drag and drop from Dash to Desktop doesn't work" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241972 === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:30] meeting time [15:31] #startmeeting Ubuntu Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2014-11-04 [15:31] Meeting started Tue Nov 4 15:31:15 2014 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:31] #chair willcooke [15:31] Current chairs: willcooke [15:31] Roll call: [15:31] attente_, desrt, didrocks, FJKong (probably afk), happyaron (probably afk), Laney, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, seb128, sweetshark, tkamppeter (maybe afk) [15:31] * willcooke should write a very simple script to replace himself [15:32] echo "meeting time" [15:32] lol! [15:32] #topic attente_ [15:32] attente_, how goes it? [15:32] lol [15:32] hey [15:33] not much to report [15:33] basic cursor support on the gdk mir backend [15:33] in-progress: window dragging [15:33] neat [15:33] nice! [15:33] (eof) [15:34] thanks attente_ [15:34] #topic desrt [15:34] hey [15:34] desrt just brb'd in another channel. not sure if he remembered the dst change [15:35] thanks larsu, desrt let's come back [15:35] #topic didrocks [15:35] didrocks - you're up [15:35] hey [15:35] * Releasing Ubuntu Developer Tools Center 0.1 with Eclipse ADT & Eclipse luna support (blog post) on vivid + 14.04 and 14.10 [15:35] * Releasing another 0.1.1 emergency fix today due to Google changing their checksum algorithm + new tests [15:35] * Implementing (not released yet): Go support + tests [15:35] * Helping debugging and pushing Qtcreator support on the vivid desktop next image (pending on the qtmir guys now) [15:35] * Preparing 2 UOS topics: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22331/ubuntu-developer-tools-community-input/ and http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22332/update-to-bluez-5/ [15:35] * More bluez and systemd documentation reading [15:35] * Preparing a talk on 10 years of Ubuntu I will give on Thursday evening [15:35] eof [15:36] thanks didrocks [15:36] #topic FJKong [15:36] FJKong, how's it going? [15:36] Last week I mainly focus on analyzing pinyin search, I found there are one useful opensource project it is written by [15:36] python, if we can fork it and develop a c/c++ version that will be cool for translating Chinese character to pinyin. [15:36] neat! that sounds interesting [15:37] next week I will give more info to you [15:37] excellent, look forward to it [15:37] thanks djinni` [15:37] oops FJKong [15:37] lol [15:37] MUST STOP AUTO COMPLETE EVERY SINGLE WORD [15:38] #topic happyaron [15:38] probably not around atm though === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:38] happyaron, please let me have your update by email [15:38] (hint hint) [15:38] #topic Laney [15:38] Laney, your go [15:38] • short week [15:38] • webkitgtk 2.4.7 merge, test, upload to vivid/utopic/trusty [15:38] • miniupnpc transition [15:38] • merge gtk (in desktop team ppa), test [15:38] ∘ Some new icons required (copied from adwaita-icon-theme into humanity, uploaded) [15:38] ∘ Unwanted borders around some buttons [15:38] ∘ No background on checkboxes or radio buttons [15:38] ∘ Please could someone who can promote fonts-cantarell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-cantarell/+bug/1387599 so it can build [15:38] Ubuntu bug 1387599 in fonts-cantarell (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-cantarell" [Undecided,Fix committed] [15:38] • Review/upload gdcm, todo: push transition [15:38] • Push some other transitions: libinput libgit2, some tiny helping on upower [15:38] • Some de-/usr/bin/libtool uploads or branches: libaccounts-glib libunity-webapps libdbusmenu [15:38] • Start looking at gnome-terminal 3.12 [15:38] • A few Debian merges, patch forwarding, etc [15:39] ➳ [15:39] Laney: I'll promote fonts-cantarell now if you want [15:39] ty [15:39] thanks Laney [15:39] #topic larsu [15:39] larsu, your go [15:39] vacation! [15:39] \o/ [15:40] caught up on bugmail etc [15:40] * qengho tries to envy larsu to death. [15:40] finsihed up gtk package (thanks for the upload Laney) [15:40] only to the ppa [15:40] but ya [15:40] started fixing bugs - still on the i-messages one [15:41] started reviewing desrt's xmlmarkupreader branch - again [15:41] Laney: ya [15:41] * larsu thinks that should be it [15:41] thanks larsu [15:41] #topic mlankhorst [15:41] xorg-server updates, looking into using a standalone Xmir binary instead of using Xorg, fixing rotation with intel + SNA [15:41] pretty much it, rotation was high priority [15:42] thanks mlankhorst [15:42] mlankhorst, I spoke to bregma who suggested we speak to RAOF about rootless X [15:42] yeah [15:42] I'll drop him a line and CC you in - see what there is we can help with [15:42] but I haven't managed to contact him [15:43] seems he's having some network troubles [15:43] I think he's UTC+1million [15:43] yeah he's in australia [15:43] email will do for now, leave it with me [15:43] #topic qengho [15:43] Hey hey. [15:43] qengho, any luck with that pp api uplaod? [15:43] - trying to get precise building chromium. #security will release for T+ without it. [15:44] - trying to get adobe-flash into partner repo. [15:44] - working on transition from older flash packages. [15:44] - 4k/unity/chromium bug; webapps PPAPI missing bug; intel-video drm/chromium-sandbox SEGV bug [15:44] willcooke: Not yet. I know who to ask, though. [15:44] great! [15:44] thanks qengho [15:44] #topic seb128 [15:45] seb128, you're up [15:45] • upgraded to vivid (main laptop and test one) [15:45] • tried to debug unity8-desktop not starting anymore with new unity8 version [15:45] • helped on the miniupnp transition [15:45] • some gtk-mir testing [15:45] • sponsored gtk patches from desrt for gtkpopup issue under classic desktops [15:45] • desktop merges/sync/updates (libsexy, telepathy-gabble, rhythmbox, ...) [15:45] • ubuntu-system-settings for touch [15:45] ∘ introductory labels/header better styled [15:45] ∘ monochrome icon for the battery panel [15:45] ∘ correct ini parsing in storage [15:45] ∘ reviews [15:45] • got details about bt issues on krillin to file a bugreport [15:45] • some sponsoring [15:45] • usual share of bugs triaging and desktop discussions [15:45] [15:45] awesome, thanks seb128 [15:46] #topic Sweetshark [15:46] Sweetshark, your go [15:46] not much: [15:46] - security updates and SRUs for utopic, trusty and precise [15:46] - urgent upstream firefighting (enough calls for one cycle last week :/) [15:46] EOF [15:46] oof, hope things ease off next week [15:46] #topic tkamppeter [15:46] tkamppeter told me he might not be here, so I have his update: [15:47] - system-config-printer: Uploaded SRU for Utopic to fix several bugs: [15:47] Utility package installation, infinite loop of link creation when a PPD [15:47] has bad permissions, authentication of queued jobs not working, setup of [15:47] HP printers with fax not working. [15:47] - Switchover of OpenPrinting web site to new server [15:47] - Bugs. [15:47] #topic robert_ancell [15:47] Worked on: [15:47] - Package updates for vivid [15:47] - Add DPI support to gdk-pixbuf / simple-scan [15:47] - Add Mapbox support to qtlocation [15:47] - Bug triage, fixing [15:47] Currently working on: [15:47] - Package updates for vivid [15:47] - TPM key support [15:47] Not blocked on anything. [15:47] #topic any other business [15:47] Ok [15:47] hi [15:47] #topic desrt [15:48] desrt, hi! [15:48] paste away... [15:48] - underwent a DST change [15:48] - helped attente get started with mir-gtk hacking [15:48] - kdbus reviews and discussions [15:48] - fixing threading issues in glib file monitoring (GFileMonitor was never written to be threadsafe but a change in 2009 made the API multithreaded. we start to notice problems with this now that GDesktopAppInfo uses file monitors from the GLib worker thread) [15:48] eof [15:48] excellent, thanks desrt [15:48]