| dsmythies | I do not see pmatulis. I thought there was supposed to be a docs meeting now. ? | 17:34 |
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| GunnarHj | Me too | 17:34 |
| GunnarHj | A reminder on the list would probably have been wise... | 17:36 |
| dsmythies | Is there anybody besides Gunnar and myself here for the doc team meeting? | 17:37 |
| dsmythies | GunnarHj - since you and I communicate reguarly via e-mail, and since nobody else is here, let's terminate the meeting. | 17:40 |
| GunnarHj | dsmythies: Maybe we could hold it you and me. At least we could clean up the meeting page a bit. | 17:41 |
| dsmythies | O.K. | 17:41 |
| dsmythies | license item. I am O.K. with. and I do not think it prevents me from having my debug mirror of help.ubuntu.com on my site | 17:42 |
| GunnarHj | No problem here either. | 17:42 |
| dsmythies | new nagivation for help.ubuntu.com seems stalled. | 17:43 |
| GunnarHj | Right. | 17:43 |
| GunnarHj | Suppose we can remove the .htaccess action item. | 17:44 |
| dsmythies | I am very happy with the current state of .htaccess and robots.txt and, finally the CSE. I think search results are actually useful now. | 17:44 |
| dsmythies | Thanks for your hardword on that | 17:44 |
| dsmythies | Thanks for your hard work on that | 17:45 |
| GunnarHj | Thank you. We did it together. :) | 17:45 |
| GunnarHj | There is one thing I thought about as regards the CSE: | 17:46 |
| dsmythies | Dustin had wanted to review in "a few days". I was thinking to ask him to review in two months. | 17:46 |
| dsmythies | go ahead | 17:46 |
| GunnarHj | Ask Ubuntu is typically very dominating among the search results. | 17:46 |
| dsmythies | I agree, and have been experimenting trying to get the order different, but haven't figured it out. | 17:47 |
| GunnarHj | I think it would be good, if it's possible, to show the "Official" items first. | 17:47 |
| dsmythies | ...using my CSEs, just for testing. | 17:47 |
| GunnarHj | Ok, you already tried it. | 17:47 |
| dsmythies | Lets aks Dustin if he knows how to change the reporting order. I'll double check my tests first. | 17:48 |
| GunnarHj | dsmythies: Good idea. | 17:48 |
| dsmythies | I agree that ideally we would like "Official" first. | 17:49 |
| GunnarHj | The current state of the Google index does not include everything. It seems to take a few more weeks until everything is indexed under "stable". | 17:50 |
| GunnarHj | (and we disabled 12.04, 14.04 etc.) | 17:50 |
| dsmythies | What about the including wiki review being pushed out to 2 months? I was also thinking to go on list and ask people to try it. | 17:51 |
| dsmythies | Yes, the full google database updates will take significant time. | 17:51 |
| GunnarHj | What's "the including wiki review"? | 17:51 |
| GunnarHj | Aha. Now I understand. :) | 17:52 |
| GunnarHj | Sure, why not? | 17:52 |
| dsmythies | Dustin had wanted to review the includion of wiki.ubuntu.com after a few days. I was wanting longer. | 17:52 |
| GunnarHj | As a side-effect we call people's attention to that rather nifty search tool. | 17:52 |
| dsmythies | Yes, exactly. I think people staopped using it because it basically didn't work. | 17:53 |
| dsmythies | Now, I think it is very useful. | 17:53 |
| GunnarHj | I'm sure Dustin don't mind waiting. But let's ask him. | 17:54 |
| GunnarHj | Yes, I think it's very useful too. Should be promoted somehow. | 17:54 |
| dsmythies | I do not know how to run IRC meetings, but... | 17:54 |
| dsmythies | Action: Doug to re-do CSE order of reporting tests, Then ask for help from Dustin. | 17:55 |
| dsmythies | Action: Doug ask Dustin for more time before review | 17:55 |
| GunnarHj | That's excellent. :) | 17:55 |
| dsmythies | Action: ? go on-list and ask people to try search tool. | 17:56 |
| GunnarHj | I can take that one. | 17:56 |
| dsmythies | O.K. moving on... | 17:56 |
| GunnarHj | Summit? | 17:56 |
| dsmythies | Yes. I know nothing about it. | 17:57 |
| GunnarHj | Not much to know, I think. The question I wanted to ask if we want to have our own session (as we use to have - "Documentation roundtable" or something) | 17:58 |
| dsmythies | I have no strong opinion. We again seem to lacking people helping. | 17:59 |
| GunnarHj | Right. Let's pmatulis decide. | 17:59 |
| dsmythies | O.K. | 17:59 |
| dsmythies | Anything for Desktop? | 18:00 |
| GunnarHj | Don't think so. Everything is prepared for vivid. So later on I'm going to post something to the list. | 18:00 |
| GunnarHj | Btw, did you talk about the branch naming matter with pmatulis? | 18:01 |
| dsmythies | I would like to nail down whatever procedure for the mascot creature icon. Was hoping antdillon would take that one. | 18:02 |
| dsmythies | For Serverguide "trunk" series. pmatulis never replied. I'll ping again and then just do it. | 18:02 |
| GunnarHj | I can't see why he would mind. | 18:03 |
| dsmythies | He is the serverguide driver, so I would like to get his buy-in first. (I wonder if he is away right now) | 18:04 |
| GunnarHj | Don't know. | 18:05 |
| dsmythies | For help.ubuntu.com: I was going to use this just after release time to do some cleanup. There are files that are not needed and other odd things. | 18:05 |
| dsmythies | Also, I think I have somehow messed up the installation guide. | 18:06 |
| GunnarHj | Ok. | 18:06 |
| GunnarHj | What's the actual state of the installation guide? Is it reasonably up-to-date? | 18:07 |
| dsmythies | I don't really know. The thing is that nodoby maintains it. I thought I had found someone willing to take it on, but they bailed. | 18:08 |
| GunnarHj | Then I think we should raise the question if we should keep publishing it. | 18:09 |
| dsmythies | my last merge proposal, which reflects what was published, is still sitting there. | 18:09 |
| dsmythies | The recommandation from both Jermey and Matt was to stop publishing it... | 18:10 |
| GunnarHj | Who thought otherwise? | 18:10 |
| dsmythies | However, there are links from other docs (the serverguide) that would get broken. | 18:10 |
| GunnarHj | Sure, I don't mean we should drop it just like that. | 18:11 |
| dsmythies | So, I have kept it. But the action could be to drop it and clean up the resulting dea links. | 18:11 |
| dsmythies | I looked at is breifly this last cycle, it might not be so hard. | 18:11 |
| GunnarHj | Sounds like a good idea. | 18:11 |
| GunnarHj | But OTOH... | 18:11 |
| dsmythies | Action: Doug to look into NOT publishing the installation guide in future, and posssibly retroactively to 14.04. | 18:12 |
| GunnarHj | Documentation of how to install Ubuntu is very important. Currently I feel we don't have anything really good. | 18:12 |
| dsmythies | Note: the package would still exist, but we (the docteam) would be out of it. | 18:13 |
| GunnarHj | Ok. | 18:13 |
| dsmythies | I agree, but simply don't know what to do. I have tried and tried to get someone to be the driver. | 18:14 |
| GunnarHj | But wouldn't it be reasonable that we as a (long term) task tried to make something better? | 18:14 |
| GunnarHj | Ok, the usual problem. :( | 18:14 |
| GunnarHj | In any case, I agree with the action point. We shouldn't keep publishing something that nobody really maintains. | 18:15 |
| dsmythies | Also it was nver converted to the new theme. | 18:15 |
| GunnarHj | Probably because Matt and Jeremy wanted to drop it... | 18:16 |
| dsmythies | Anything else? | 18:16 |
| GunnarHj | Nope, don't think so. | 18:17 |
| dsmythies | O.K. then meeting over. | 18:17 |
| dsmythies | hmmm... I supoose this isn't going to log properly. | 18:17 |
| GunnarHj | No, but I suppose it will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ at least? | 18:18 |
| dsmythies | Yes, pleia2 got this meeting room added to those web pages. | 18:19 |
| GunnarHj | Confirmed. :) | 18:19 |
| dsmythies | O.K. Gunnar bye for now. | 18:20 |
| GunnarHj | Bye Doug. We'll keep in touch. | 18:20 |
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