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saidinesh5popey: http://paste.kde.org/pvh8w5ff400:00
saidinesh5thats what i get when i tried to create a chroot using click on the device00:00
popeyi already have one of that name.00:01
popeyso i cant test that00:01
popeyand i dont want to break mine00:01
saidinesh5oh00:02
popeydunno why it wont create for you00:02
popeysorry00:02
saidinesh5basically popey it failed when it ran the command00:03
saidinesh5Command '['debootstrap', '--arch', 'armhf', '--variant=buildd', '--components=main,restricted,universe,multiverse', 'utopic', '/var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-armhf', 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu']' returned non-zero exit status 100:03
popeyis that the command it uses from the sdk?00:03
saidinesh5so i went to that archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu00:03
saidinesh5and there are no armhfs packages there00:03
saidinesh5yes00:03
popeyhang on, let me see00:03
matv1popey, as you are still around. It is the Grooveshark app thats causing it after all. I tried adding Dekko and no prob. who should i talk too?00:04
popeyahhh!00:04
popeygrooveshark is a scope, not an app00:05
matv1sooory :D00:05
popeythat is a differentiator00:05
popeyso hmmm. let me test here too00:05
matv1so how does it fail and crash my U1 account?00:05
popeywell i dunno yet ☻00:05
matv1my bad :)00:05
popeywhich one did you install?00:05
popeythere's two00:05
popeythe one from adnane or the one from grooveshark?00:06
pngo_Just want to let you know that today phone app has hanged on me three time. I was unable to cancel call and sometimes screens is white, nothing on it. I was able to fix it by rebooting.00:06
matv1the grooveshark from grooveshark00:06
matv1:)00:06
popeypngo_: ☹00:06
popeysaidinesh5: with you in a second00:06
saidinesh5aye00:06
matv1popey so the new one00:07
popeyphablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ click list | grep groove00:07
popeycom.grooveshark.webapp  1.100:07
popeywell, it installed!00:07
popeyso when you say "crashed u1" what do you mean?00:07
popeythe UI crashes.00:08
matv1the scope fails to install and after that my registered online account for U1 hads gone00:08
matv1hope i am saying this all correctly00:08
popeyok, i dont see that issue here00:08
popeyhave you re-added your u1 account and tried again and it loses it again?00:08
matv1yep. i can repeat this every time00:09
popeydoesnt happen here, sorry.00:09
popeyand its not a grooveshark scope00:09
popeyits an html5 app00:09
* popey listens to some songs00:10
* popey rocks out00:10
matv1popey are you sure you didnt install the grooveshark from adnane Belmadiaf?00:10
popeyyes00:10
matv1hmm00:10
popeyhttp://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-11-04-001054.png00:10
popeyscreenshot00:11
popeysorry ☹00:11
popeyreboot? ☻00:11
popeysaidinesh5: so, does it fail to create from within qtcreator? what happens?00:11
matv1ype thats the one thats playing bad00:11
saidinesh5popey: no no.. i was trying to create a chroot environment in the nexus 700:12
saidinesh5cuz i need to compile something00:12
popeyooooh00:12
popeythat makes even less sense00:12
saidinesh5and if i install qt5-default inside tablet it breaks00:12
popeyi remember now00:12
saidinesh5oh?00:12
matv1popey no didnt reboot yet. thought i might check if i should adb pull something first00:12
matv1matv1 is rebooting now anyways00:12
popeyheh00:12
popeysaidinesh5: well, why aren't you using a chroot on desktop?00:13
saidinesh5popey: i tried but it had some broken packages00:13
saidinesh5again couldnt install qt500:13
popeyare you running kde?00:13
saidinesh5yes00:14
saidinesh5how did you know?00:14
popeyugh, sorry.00:14
popeyknown issue00:14
* saidinesh5 facepalms00:14
popeyhmmm00:14
saidinesh5so basically i need to hack on a maliit plugin00:14
saidinesh5so it needs to be even installed in the right path so that utouch can use it00:14
popeyok. I would poke bzoltan_ and zbenjamin in the morning.00:14
popeywhere their morning is in about 6 hours00:15
saidinesh5Ahh00:15
saidinesh5sure00:15
popeymaybe also poke mirv for funsies00:15
saidinesh5heh okay00:15
popeybecause they look after these packages00:15
popeyand they are clearly broken somehow if they cant be installed on kubuntu00:15
popeyi saw a mail about it last week.00:15
saidinesh5mhm i think i already reported the broken package issue to bzoltan_ yesterday night ..cant remember00:15
popeyhe was on vacation today i think... one mo, let me see if their calendars are up to date00:16
saidinesh5Ah00:16
popeysadly i cant tell00:16
saidinesh5hmm...00:16
popeybut mirv should be around.00:16
popeyI've added a to-do to catch up with them in the morning.00:16
matv1popey no better after a reboot00:16
popeypm me your email address00:16
popeymatv1: gah, sucks00:16
saidinesh5right now i am trying to set up a chroot on the tablet manually00:17
saidinesh5oh00:17
saidinesh5using debootstrap00:17
matv1should i just file? talk 2 some one else or forget about grooveshark and be damned :) ?00:17
popeyyeah, file a bug matv1 maybe on online-accounts00:18
matv1popey right will do00:18
matv1i might just hit the pillow before you yet haha00:18
matv1popey cheers later!00:18
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bugs00:19
popeysaidinesh5: ok, made a note00:19
saidinesh5aye .. thanks :)00:19
popeythanks guys for your patience!00:19
popeynight!00:19
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saidinesh5niters popey00:20
popeysaidinesh5: oh, btw, another giveaway that you use kubuntu - you use kde pasebint ㋛00:22
saidinesh5Ahh lol00:22
popey:D00:22
saidinesh5good one actually00:22
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saidinesh5btw. nice piece of music https://soundcloud.com/keithkenniff/keith-kenniff-day-one?in=luschn/sets/smooth-music-for-programming00:58
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Mirvsaidinesh5: popey: maliit would be more Elleo04:58
saidinesh5mhm Mirv tried to figure it out with Elleo yesterday04:58
saidinesh5but it was more of a problem in the qtbase packages04:58
saidinesh5anyhow finally got a chroot set up on my tablet manually with debchroot04:59
saidinesh5apparently click wasn't meant to setup chroot on tablet05:00
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DaHopihello @ all, i want to try ubuntu touch on my galaxy s2. is it possible to create a custom image?06:34
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AvagettoHello. can I ask a question on the package ubuntu-desktop-next in this channel?07:22
cm-tAvagetto: I supose #ubuntu-unity is a better place08:08
AvagettoWell, thank you. I'm just trying to run ubuntu-desktop-next / ubuntu-touch on the arm device (rk3288 ).08:12
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GG_hello guys08:51
GG_does anyone have ubuntu phone on their nexus 7?08:52
popeyi do08:52
AceLanGG_: I do, too08:53
matv1mardi do you have a minute to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/138902808:57
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1389028 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "u1 account crashes and gets removed when installing app" [Undecided,Incomplete]08:57
matv1mardy or would you rather have me update the launchpad bug?08:58
mardymatv1: we can talk here, it's faster :-)08:59
matv1mardy sure08:59
mardymatv1: we can update the bug with a summary, later08:59
mardymatv1: so, is the account actually getting deleted?08:59
matv1what I meant to say was that the account gets removed right away08:59
matv1yes its gets deleted instantly09:00
matv1mardy thats whats weird about it.09:00
matv1mardy i  should mention that i had popey try and reproduce but he couldnt09:00
mardymatv1: I wonder, maybe the filesystem is corrupted...09:01
mardymatv1: can you please try this from a terminal (in the device, of via ssh):09:01
mardyexport UOA_LOGGING_LEVEL=209:01
mardyexport UAO_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=999909:01
mardykillall online-accounts-service09:02
mardyonline-accounts-service >uoa.log 2>&109:02
mardymatv1: and then paste the logs somewhere?09:02
GG_hello guys09:05
GG_anyone who can help?09:05
popeyGG_: you haven't asked a question yet.09:05
GG_Im planing on installing ubuntu phone on my nexus 709:06
GG_but heard that ubuntu has left help on nexus 7 (2012)09:06
oSoMoNogra_, hey, when you have a moment, could you please comment on bug #1378184 ?09:06
ubot5bug 1378184 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "RTM r3 why is Nepali Unicode texts not displaying in browser app" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137818409:06
popeyGG_: correct, nexus 7 2012 is no longer a supported device09:06
GG_I was wondering what are the main bugs nexus 7 will have09:07
GG_like speaker problem or wifi maybe?09:07
GG_do you guys know any main bugs about nexus 709:07
ogra_oSoMoN, oh, this needs to go on ollis list then09:08
popeyGG_: its not supported09:09
oSoMoNogra_, I don’t think that’s neither critical nor urgent, but we should keep it on the radar, maybe for an ota update09:09
ogra_oSoMoN, yeah, indeed09:10
GG_ok ty09:10
oSoMoNogra_, can you confirm that adding the font package to the seed would be the right approach?09:10
matv1mardy sorry fr being a newb killall wont execute on the device nor over adb shell. what am i missing09:11
mardymatv1: nevermind, you can skip that step, probably09:11
mardymatv1: and I forgot to tell you the most important part: after typing those commands, please create an U1 account :-)09:12
ogra_oSoMoN, i would guess so, i guess someone needs to install it, switch to nepali and try09:12
oSoMoNogra_, I did already, just wanted to confirm that this would be an acceptable way of fixing it09:13
matv1mardy I did guess that :)09:13
ogra_it definitely is09:13
oSoMoNcool, I’ll confirm the bug, and will ping olli about it09:13
oSoMoNogra_, thanks09:13
ogra_thanks for researching it !09:13
ogra_its an absolutely risk-less change09:14
ogra_in case olli asks :)09:14
oSoMoNI’ll quote you on this :)09:15
seb128hum, so my krillin gives me "your location could not be determined" on googlemap webapp, in a consistant way since the week in Washington09:24
seb128the phone is online, with a working sim and gps on09:24
seb128what info would be useful debugging that/reporting a bug?09:24
popeyseb128: is google maps the only app open that does location?09:25
popeythere's a known bug that only one app can do location at once09:25
seb128popey, yes09:26
seb128that's a freshly updated/rebooted phone09:26
seb128I only used system settings09:26
seb128and now tried googlemap09:26
seb128well, could be that unity8-dash is using the location for a scope or something09:26
* popey tries09:26
seb128how do I check?09:26
popeyyeah, fails here too09:27
popeythere's a handy "sensors status" app in the store, which shows if you really are getting satellite data09:28
popeymine is getting data, and i see the correct lat/long but gmaps still gets nothing09:29
seb128is here working?09:29
seb128it's giving me "can't find your position" as well09:29
popeyseb128: tried it again and now it works09:30
seb128shrug09:30
popeyi have a blue dot on my house09:30
popeyare you near a window?09:30
popeyhere works too09:31
seb128no, and the sensors app show no data09:31
seb128I guess we don't do location based on other means09:31
popeyit showed no data for me initially then i moved phone near window and it jumped to life09:31
seb128yeah09:31
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Use Your Common Sense Day! :-D09:32
davidcalleJamesTait, wishful thinking :)09:33
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cgihello guys, can i ask about ubuntu sdk problem here?10:11
popeycgi: you can but #ubuntu-app-devel might be better10:11
vesarIs there any way to get qml traces (console.log) from the phone?11:12
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nik90vesar: yes, install the app the LogViewer to see the logs of any application. Or using the command line, the logs should be at /home/phablet/.cache/upstart11:35
vesarthanks nik90. Found the logs I was after from /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/unity8.log11:55
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ogra_mdeslaur, hmm, did sudo change in vivid ? sudo -S doesnt seem to work anymore, it returns a password prompt even if i echo the password through a pipe13:24
mdeslaurogra_: not AFAIK, it's the same version we've had since trusty13:24
ogra_ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/phablet-tools$ adb shell 'echo -n "0000" | sudo -S rm -rf /var/log/bootchart/*'13:25
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet:13:25
ogra_that should theoretically just quietlly operate13:25
* mdeslaur tries in a vivid vm13:26
mdeslaurogra_: what happens if you don't put the -n?13:26
ogra_same thing13:27
ogra_i also tried -Sn for sudo ... same issue13:27
ogra_well, complains even louder that way13:27
ogra_oh13:27
ogra_on rtm i see it proceed despite asking for the pw13:28
ogra_on vivid it hangs13:28
ogra_hmm13:29
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell "echo 0000|sudo -S touch /userdata/foo 2>/dev/null"13:29
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell "echo 0000|sudo -S ls /userdata/foo 2>/dev/null"13:29
ogra_/userdata/foo13:29
ogra_so that works13:30
* ogra_ tries on vivid13:30
mdeslaurogra_: what about adb shell 'echo -n "0000" | sudo -S "/usr/bin/whoami"13:30
ogra_ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/phablet-tools$ adb shell 'echo -n 0000 | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:31
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet:13:31
ogra_but13:31
ogra_ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/phablet-tools$ adb shell 'echo 0000 | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:31
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet: root13:31
ogra_ok13:31
ogra_ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/phablet-tools$ adb shell 'echo 0000 | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami 2>/dev/null'13:31
ogra_root13:31
ogra_that works13:31
ogra_mdeslaur, sorry for the noise, seems it works fine, the prompt is new though ... it used to omit that13:33
ogra_but i can work around it in scripts13:33
mdeslaurogra_: weird, not sure why that happens, sorry13:33
ogra_no worries, as long as it works :)13:33
mdeslaurhow about adb shell 'echo -e "0000\n" | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:34
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell 'echo -e "0000\n" | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:36
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet: Sorry, try again.13:36
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet: Sorry, try again.13:36
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet:13:36
ogra_sudo: 2 incorrect password attempts13:36
ogra_not happy that way :)13:36
mdeslaurogra_: I don't think you have the right password13:38
ogra_lol13:38
ogra_i surely do13:38
ogra_oh, wait13:38
ogra_i dont !13:38
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell 'echo -e "3563\n" | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:38
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet: root13:38
mdeslaurd'oh :)13:39
ogra_still returns the noise though13:39
ogra_i think -S should quieten the prompt13:39
mdeslaurI don't see the noise in a real vivid image13:40
mdeslaurs/image/vm/13:40
ogra_i do13:40
ogra_well, via adb at least13:40
mdeslaurI mean in an ubuntu desktop install13:40
ogra_right, probably an issue because adb doesnt use a proper tty setup13:40
mdeslaurogra_: ok, put the -n back in the echo and remove the -e and the \n13:41
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell 'echo -n "3563" | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:41
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet:13:41
ogra_doesnt return the value13:41
mdeslaurwow, that is weird13:42
ogra_works the same with dropping -n though13:42
ogra_gra@styx:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs$ adb shell 'echo "3563" | sudo -S /usr/bin/whoami'13:42
ogra_[sudo] password for phablet: root13:42
mdeslaurogra_: oh, wait, you're not getting the prompt because you have a cached sudo ticket now13:42
ogra_i dont13:43
ogra_every adb shell call is a fresh login13:43
ogra_(wrapped in sudo -i phablet to make sure we process pam stuff13:43
ogra_)13:43
mdeslaurogra_: perhaps sudo -p "" -S /usr/bin/whoami13:44
ogra_mdeslaur, !13:45
ogra_that works !!13:45
ogra_wow, weird13:45
ogra_but at least i dont have to throw away stderr13:45
ogra_thats good13:45
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brendandbarry, i've been testing the system-image silo (as you know)14:00
barrybrendand: cool14:01
brendandbarry, i couldn't get the phased updates test to pass though14:03
brendandbarry, no matter what i set the phase to it always gave an upgrade path14:03
barrybrendand: that's not good14:03
brendandbarry, right now i'm testing another silo, but any ideas why that might be?14:04
barrybrendand: did you tweak the base url to look at stgraber's staging server?14:04
brendandbarry, yeah - but maybe i didn't restart something i should have?14:04
brendandbarry, i didn't see the instructions ask me to14:04
barrybrendand: shouldn't have to restart anything for just the s-i-cli14:04
barrybrendand: any chance you could upload the /var/log/system-image/client.log file or pastebin the --dry-run -v output?14:05
brendandbarry, i'll have another go in about an hour and upload those if it fails again14:05
barrybrendand: cool14:05
barrybrendand: i know why it's not working for you.  the server side index.json file must have been regen'd without the phased-percentage set.  take a look in a web browser, at least i don't see it.  we need to get stgraber to add the % back14:12
* barry once again laments the lack of an actual staging server :(14:12
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tedgkenvandine, A couple of weird appid's coming from content hub14:18
tedgkenvandine, https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/1e38e32e-63a3-11e4-91b2-fa163e75317b14:18
tedgkenvandine, https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/f47013b2-6408-11e4-8028-fa163e339c8114:18
tedgkenvandine, The second one is blank, which is odd.14:18
brendandbarry, oooh14:18
brendandbarry, that's most likely it then14:19
brendandbarry, can you handle getting that fixed? then just ping me when it's ready to test again14:19
barrybrendand: yep.  i don't know stgraber's schedule so not sure if he's around to fix it or not14:19
kenvandinetedg, so that means we tried to launch pkg_app_version ?14:19
barrybrendand: but i'll let you know if/when i hear from him14:19
kenvandinetedg, oh... i see why :)14:20
tedgkenvandine, Yup, and UAL returned an error but also turned you into the authorities behind your back :-)14:20
kenvandinesomeone is trying out our examples in the source tree14:20
tedgAh, okay.14:20
kenvandinewithout changing the source :)14:20
kenvandinethat's in one of the qml examples14:20
oSoMoNrpadovani: hey, we were about to land https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/1351167/+merge/238155 when a packaging issue arose, I’ve commented in the MR to explain the problem, do you think you could take a look? if not I can do it myself, it should be fairly straightforward14:20
rpadovanioSoMoN, mmhh, this is sad, I'm on it14:25
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barrybrendand: phased percentage should be restored now14:33
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dpmpitti, pmcgowan pinged me the other day re: the hindi langpack being on the image even though it's got very little translated. Do you know why it landed there? Is langpack-o-matic still doing calculations of the stats before a langpack is created and added to the image?14:43
pittidpm: yes, it does14:43
pitti  hi    4006 (59%) discarded14:43
pittihmm14:43
pittidpm: I guess one one time it must have been on the 70% mark14:44
pittidpm: but yes, it's out of date; I'll remove it from 14.09 and vivid, thanks for pointing out14:44
ogra_pitti, ah, do you care ?14:45
* ogra_ was asked too14:45
pittiogra_: care about what? langpack hygiene?14:45
pittiyeah, I guess so14:45
dpmpitti, not sure. In any case, there must be a package that is not phone specific that is making the stats look a bit too good. I.e. for the phone, it seems the stats are more like 4% coverage: http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic/hi14:45
dpmbut yeah, I think it'd be good to remove it if it doesn't do the cut. Thanks!14:46
pittidpm: yeah, it's also counting stuff which isn't on your list, like polkit and whatever else is on the image14:46
ogra_pitti, unseeding it14:46
pittiogra_: ah, we seed language-pack-touch-*14:46
pittieasier to just remove the package, and better too as it doesn't get updated14:47
ogra_pitti, ah, you wipe it from the archive ?14:47
ogra_thats even better14:47
pittiogra_: rtm and vivid, can't wipe it from utopic14:47
ogra_pitti, do we know the numbers for nepali ?14:47
ogra_there is bug #137818414:48
pitti*flush*, gone14:48
ubot5bug 1378184 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "RTM r3 why is Nepali Unicode texts not displaying in browser app" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137818414:48
ogra_and there is a discussion in another channel wether we should drop the langpack or add the font14:48
oSoMoNrpadovani: awesome, thanks! (and sorry about it, that’s very unfortunate indeed)14:48
pittioSoMoN:   ne    1167 (17%) discarded14:48
pittierr, ogra_ ^14:48
ogra_ouch, can you drop that too then ?14:49
pittion it14:49
ogra_oSoMoN, ^^^^14:49
pmcgowanogra_, the link above says 2%14:49
ogra_so that doesnt look good for nepali14:49
pittiogra_: err, do we actually have that?14:49
rpadovanioSoMoN, done! At the end, doesn't change a lot in number of lines of code14:49
pittirmadison language-pack-touch-ne -> empty14:49
pittiogra_: ^ nothing to drop14:49
ogra_cool14:49
rpadovanioSoMoN, but I didn't reverted it, I only sobsitutete RowLayout with Row14:50
ogra_oSoMoN, so i guess that bug is invalid til we have a working langpack14:50
oSoMoNogra_, pitti: whether to include the langpack or not is independent imho, the bug is that browsing to pages in nepali doesn’t display the correct characters, and it’s perfectly valid to browse to a site in nepali while your locale is en-US or whatever else14:51
mardymhall119: hi! Are you the one I should ping for bug 1376684? :-)14:51
ubot5bug 1376684 in Ubuntu API Website "Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Client module is missing from website" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137668414:51
ogra_oSoMoN, convince pmcgowan :)14:51
pittioSoMoN: right14:51
ogra_he is the gatekeeper14:51
ogra_(or olli )14:51
pmcgowanthats a good point14:51
ogra_i tend to agree though14:52
pmcgowanso we want the fonts but not the lang pack14:52
ogra_yeah14:52
pmcgowanthe bug is to fix a broken language setting14:52
oSoMoNyes14:52
pmcgowanI agree with that14:52
dobeyogra_: but who is the keymaster?14:53
pmcgowanogra_, pitti  so lets remove hindi lang pack and add nepali fonts? hindi fonts?14:53
ogra_dobey, wasmt that zul ?14:53
ogra_pmcgowan, yeah14:53
ogra_dobey, or was that gosa ?14:54
* ogra_ forgot ... 14:54
pittipmcgowan: WFM; ttf-devanagari-fonts + ttf-indic-fonts-core (recommends) = ~ 1.8 MB14:55
pitti(compressed)14:55
dobeyogra_: it was rick moranis14:55
ogra_LOL14:55
dobeyogra_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSp5QwKRwqM14:55
pmcgowanpitti, do we have a good way to decide what fonts to include or not?14:55
pittior 6.2 MB uncompressed14:55
dobeytriskiii: don't spam people14:55
pittipmcgowan: it's mostly gut feeling really; if we have customers/devices in India/Nepal/Kashmir etc., then we shoudl include them; otherwise they are quite large14:56
kenvandineand iirc the hindi translation is only 4%14:56
ogra_kenvandine, right, the langpacks are gone now14:58
ogra_but we need to seed the fonts still14:58
ogra_pitti, i think the question is if we have customers that use websites in these langs ... no matter where they live ;)14:58
ogra_for nepali we obviously at least have one14:59
pittiogra_: right14:59
ogra_who filed the bug :)14:59
oSoMoNrpadovani: awesome, that looks perfect, I’ll see if I can land it now15:00
mhall119mardy: yes, is it in the -doc package in Utopic?15:00
mardymhall119: qtdeclarative5-online-accounts-client-doc15:01
rpadovanioSoMoN, hooray! Thanks for your time on this branch!15:01
oSoMoNand thanks for yours :)15:01
mardymhall119: does it take a lot of manual work to upload it? I'm asking because I'm considering improving the documentation a bit, so maybe it might not be a great idea to upload it right now15:02
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mhall119mardy: no, it's scripted, I just have to manually kick it off15:05
mardymhall119: that's cool!15:06
mhall119mardy: http://91.189.92.89/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Client/ is what currently gets imported15:06
mardymhall119: yes, there's only the Setup element -- that's correct15:06
mardymhall119: I plan to add a couple of separate pages describing the XML files which OA needs15:07
mhall119mardy: ok, I'll be able to push it to production whenever it's ready15:07
oSoMoNrpadovani: hang on just a sec, according to http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-row.html it’s not valid to use anchors to anchor horizontally childs of a Row, instead you should probably set the spacing on the Row to units.gu(1) and the width of the column to parent.width - iconContainer.width - parent.spacing15:08
rpadovanioSoMoN, that's right15:08
mhall119mardy: is there a -doc package for the regular Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts APIs?15:09
mardymhall119: there should be, let me find it15:09
mardymhall119: accounts-qml-module-doc15:10
mardymhall119: I should eventually rename it :-)15:10
mhall119thanks mardy15:10
mardymhall119: thanks to you!15:11
rpadovanioSoMoN, done, sorry to waste your time with this stupid kind of errors15:12
rpadovanioSoMoN, kenvandine: I found a new bug in facebook app or content hub, dunno where I have to report it: if in a conversation on facebook I receive an image I can click on it, and there is a link to download it. When I click on the link, it opens the content-hub, it shows the gallery as usual, and when I click on it the content hub close itself, but nothing else happens - the file isn't downloaded and no error is raised15:12
kenvandineElleo, ^^15:14
kenvandinethere is some magic that happens with handing off to the download manager, etc15:14
kenvandinemaybe something happens inside the container?15:14
oSoMoNlooks like a bug indeed15:14
oSoMoNrpadovani: did you push your latest change? I’m not seeing it appear on the MR15:15
Elleokenvandine, oSoMoN, rpadovani: we might want to check the permissions on the facebook app, might be that it doesn't have content_exchange_source set (which is needed for downloads)15:17
kenvandineah15:17
rpadovanioSoMoN, pushed in this moment15:17
kenvandinelook for denials in the log15:17
rpadovanikenvandine, I'm at uni and I don't have usb cable, I try to use terminal on the phone :D15:17
rpadovanikenvandine, which file I have to check?15:18
kenvandinegrep DENI /var/log/syslog15:18
kenvandinerpadovani, or... check the click package to see if it has content_exchange_source policy15:18
rpadovanikenvandine, apparmor="DENIED" operation "dbus_method_call" and a lot of path about facebook15:20
kenvandinerpadovani, i confirmed webapp-facebook has content_exchange but not content_exchange_source15:25
kenvandinerpadovani, so that needs to be added for downloads to work15:26
rpadovanikenvandine, cool, thanks. Where is the source of webapps? I'm not able to find it15:26
kenvandinewebapps-core15:26
kenvandineis the LP project15:26
rpadovanikenvandine, aha! Thanks!15:27
kenvandinenp15:27
kenvandinerpadovani, and don't forget feedback on my API changes :)15:27
rpadovanikenvandine, for sure, I'm a bit busy these days, I have to recover 2 weeks of uni lessons :P15:28
kenvandineno worries :)15:28
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Wellarkinfinity: hi! could you add me as a member to this team so that I can handle the nominations of my own upstream components (i-network, connectivity-api, unity-action-api) for 14.04, 14.10 and in the future for 15.04 and also as that team is the driver of ubuntu-rtm project I need the membership to be able to manage the "14.09", "ota1" and "ota2" series on that side?15:34
Wellarkhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release-nominators15:35
Wellarkor the other option is that we need a new team as a Driver for ubuntu-rtm project and somebody handles the targetings for ubuntu series for me15:37
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infinityWellark: The third option is that you get upload rights for your projects in the distro. ;)15:46
infinityWellark: But I can add you to release-nominators for now, if you promise you won't touch any bugs for anything other than your upstream projects.15:47
Wellarkinfinity: I promise.15:47
Wellarkinfinity: + Canonical Platform QA Team is already part of the release-nominators15:48
infinityWellark: What's your LP ID?15:48
Wellarkinfinity: kaijanmaki15:48
infinityWellark: Done.15:49
Wellarkinfinity: thanks! <315:50
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Wellarkinfinity: one more thing :)16:07
Wellarkas ubuntu-rtm project obviously was just a 1:1 copy as far as setup goes from ubuntu project16:07
Wellarkcould you add couple of series to it?16:07
Wellarknow the only series there is 14.0916:07
Wellarkwhich is our current development target and will be released as "rtm"16:08
Wellarknow, we already do have bugs we want to target to either "ota1" or "ota2" series after 14.0916:08
Wellarkso could you please add the "ota1" and "ota2" series to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/16:08
Wellarkand set them as "Future"16:08
Wellarkor I can do it if you add me to the Ubuntu Release Team on the same go ;)16:09
infinityWellark: Err, it's a lot more involved than just "creating a new series".16:10
infinityWellark: Also, ota1 and ota2, AFAIU, are not meant to be new series, just new milestones for 14.0916:11
infinityWellark: Also, re: adding you to the Ubuntu Release Team: Ha ha ha. :P16:11
infinityWellark: I can absolutely add ota1 and ota2 milestones if your goal is bug targetting.16:12
infinityWellark: If you're expecting to be able to fork and upload different packages, I feel that we've very poorly communicated how those updates are going to work.16:13
Wellarkinfinity: well, I see no other way this to work unless 14.09, ota1 and ota2 are all series16:14
Wellarkas once we start work on ota116:14
Wellarkwe still have shipping rtm images16:14
Wellarkand we might need to do actual critical fixes to rtm series before ota1 is ready16:14
Wellarkif someone else has better solution, then I'm all ears16:15
infinityWellark: A pretty good argument for not shipping garbage in your stable series? :)16:15
Wellarkinfinity: well, something might only manifest itself once we have shipped and the user base expands16:15
infinityWellark: Infinitely forking is not a sustainable release model.  We don't employ enough people to even pretend that will work.16:16
dobeyWellark: if we need to ship an update to rtm before ota1 is read, then ota1 is moved, because the only way to ship an update is to ship an ota :)16:16
infinityWellark: Also, what dobey said. :P16:16
dobeyWellark: further divergence only moves us further away from convergence, too16:16
Wellarkwell, I'm fine with ota1 and ota2 being a milestone as well16:17
dobeyif you want to fix stuff for ota1 or ota2, before we can land it in rtm, then the way to do that is to fix it in vivid, and then we later pull those changes into rtm, once we can pull ota1 target fixes to rtm16:17
infinityWellark: If an emergency update needs doing, you stabilise 14.09, call it ota-1, and ship it.  In theory, it should be perpetually stable, as new feature development is meant to be landing to vivid and to 14.10, 14.09 should be nothing but bugfixes.16:17
infinityAnyhow, I'll give you ota-1 and ota-2 milestones.  And I need to head to bed.16:18
dobeywell i hope new features aren't landing to 14.10 at this point16:18
infinitydobey: "14.10" in the ubuntu-rtm distro, not utopic.16:18
dobeyat least, if they are, i want to use your time machine too. there is a "task" i must complete ;)16:18
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infinitydobey: Unfortunately confusing, I know.16:18
Wellarkinfinity: thanks! that will get me going16:18
dobeyinfinity: i'd think we would need to call it 14.11 at least, at this point, no? :)16:18
infinityWellark: Done.16:19
dobeyif not, someone really screwed up the DST this time around16:19
infinitydobey: It's a straight fork of utopic (or, will be), with phone divergence on top.16:19
infinitydobey: So, 14.10 is probably the right name, but also, who really cares?  We could call it george.16:19
Wellarkinfinity: one more. sorry. :)  now that the ota1 and ota2 are milestones, then we would need rtm milestone (stable development) as well for everything that is planned to be fixed in the next couple of weeks, so we can easily list and see if any of the ubuntu-rtm bugs _don't_ have a milestone set16:22
infinityWellark: Any preference on a name?16:24
dobeysomehow an "rtm" milestone on the "rtm" distro seems a bit weird to me16:24
infinityOh, bleh.  milestones aren't unique in a series.16:24
infinityGross.16:24
infinityWellark: I'm going to delete those and rename them.  Sec.16:24
dobeyand creating milestones is mildly useless at this point, as we are using tags for that16:24
dobeyby we, i mean pro{duct,ject} mgmt16:24
infinityOr, maybe I won't delete them, cause someone's already targetted stuff to them.16:25
Wellarkinfinity: oh?16:25
Wellarksomeone was fast16:25
dobeyand thus we lesser beings are forced to use tags for that16:25
infinityOr not.  Hrm.  I wonder why LP exploded when I tried to delete them.16:25
dobeyit just does that sometimes16:25
Wellarkinfinity: "rtm" as the first milestone makes sense as it's "release to manufacturers"16:26
infinityIt really doesn't do this.16:26
Wellarkthen followed by "ota1"16:26
infinityWellark: Well, except not.16:26
Wellarkand "ota2"16:26
infinityWellark: Like I said, these aren't unique per series, they're per distro.16:26
infinityWellark: Hence why I should delete these and rename them to 14.09-ota-1 and such.16:26
Wellarkinfinity: ack. makes sense16:27
infinityOr, just use tags, like you're apparently already doing? :)16:27
Wellarkwell, i can't set tag in the Milestone field of a bug, so..16:27
dobeyyou can just rename them without deleting i think16:27
dobeybut yeah, also, you should use tags16:27
Wellarkyes, I will use tags also16:27
dobeyWellark: no, just ignore the milestone field and set the tags16:27
Wellarkthis is in addition16:27
dobeyif you try to use milestones you're just going to confuse other people, and PM, and it will cause problems16:28
dobeybecause some people will start setting milestones and not adding tags, etc16:28
infinityTo be fair, milestones are the saner way of doing this sort of thing.16:29
Wellarkwell, these things exist in LP for a reason16:29
dobeyoh yes, i totally agree with that16:29
Wellarkthe tags confuse people16:29
Wellarkand people don't always anyway remember to set them16:29
dobeythey don't set milestones either16:29
infinityWellark: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 <-- You have 3 milestones.16:30
Wellarkbut with milestones I can at least get a list of all of the bugs in my projects that do not have a milestone set16:30
infinityAnd I'm going to stay out of the politics of how you guys decide to handle your bugs.16:30
dobeymilestones are also a bit of a pain to use here, because everything in the image, isn't necessarily in the distro16:30
infinityWellark: You can do searches on tags too, it's just a bit uglier.16:30
Wellark+ ubuntu-rtm project  is  anyway disrecard by this spearsheet tracking anyway16:30
dobeyand managing milestones across multiple projects, and a distro, and distro series, is a pain16:30
WellarkI was the first one to actually start to use the project when it was created16:31
dobeyubuntu-rtm isn't a project, it's a distro16:31
WellarkI use it for having a clear picture of what has landed to where16:31
dobeywhich perhaps adds to the confusion of course :)16:31
infinitydobey: Wait, what's on the image that isn't in the distro?16:31
infinitydobey: Except for the sketchy tarballs.16:31
dobeyinfinity: all the click packages16:31
infinityRight, that needs fixing some day.  Not today, though. :/16:32
Wellark"has this bug been fixed in $foo? let me check.. fix released in 14.09, not released in utopic, released in 15.04"16:32
Wellarkand 6 months forward16:32
infinityAaaanyway.16:32
dobeyyeah, it's a bit of a mess :)16:33
infinityEnjoy using (or not) your milestones and/or arguing about it a bit and then using tags, or whatever.  I need sleep about 10 hours ago.16:33
Wellarkwe have 14.04, 14.10, 15.04 as stable releases, 15.10 as development series + whatever we do with ubuntu-rtm16:33
dobeyorganized disarray16:33
Wellarkyep16:33
Wellarkinfinity: thanks for the work16:33
Wellarkinfinity: get some rest / sleep!16:33
dobeyinfinity: go have some cupcakes and vodka, or cupcake flavored vodka, and sleep16:34
dobey 2516 phablet   20   0  101568  13732   9676 S  99.8  0.7 225:21.33 media-hub-+16:35
dobeywell, that's not very nice :(16:35
ogra_dobey, thats a feature :)16:38
ogra_draining your battery faster16:38
ogra_( tvoss is working on it, if you got any data to collect, give it to him)16:39
dobeyno data really. i have no music or videos on my phone. i just picked it up and noticed it was incredibly hot and battery was already down to 39% after only about 3 hours of being off the charger16:40
dobeyso i opened a shell and saw that was happening16:40
ogra_yeah, nearly everyone sees it lately16:42
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brendandbarry, what's the phase on that image?17:02
barrybrendand: 39%17:02
brendandbarry, if i use --dry-run and get an upgrade path, will subsequent calls say that i'm up-to-date?17:04
barrybrendand: no, because no upgrade was applied17:04
brendandbarry, oh wait - i got it17:05
brendandbarry, well everything looks pretty good17:05
brendandbarry, it can land soon17:05
barrybrendand: thanks! are you going to flip the qa signoff bit?17:06
brendandbarry, yep - i do that :)17:06
barrybrendand: \o/17:07
ogra_cyphermox, hmm, so i even tried starting mtp-server  on started unity8-dash (which is a lot later than unity8 itself) ... i get a lot less error msgs but they are still there17:27
ogra_mterry, do you have an idea why the greeter service only comes up really late after unity8 on boot (on dbus that is)17:27
cyphermoxogra_: got a fix17:27
ogra_oh, cool17:27
ogra_i'm still curious why that service isnt there right from the start though17:28
mterryogra_, we wait until qml is settled, so that it can handle incoming requests on the DBus service17:28
ogra_ah17:28
cyphermoxogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/mtp/fix-1389223/+merge/24058517:29
ogra_cyphermox, hmm, i think you could even use the upstart-dbus-bridge without having to use a pre-start script17:30
ogra_but i guess as long as it works, it works :)17:30
cyphermoxah, that's new-ish then17:31
cyphermoxwhatever, the right fix is for unitygreeter to be available earlier17:32
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gcollurahow can I reset unity8 configuration without wiping everything?17:58
gcollurabecause my scopes (all of them, even the app scope) are not loading17:59
dakergcollura: open terminal : restart unity-dash18:24
gcolluradaker, restart: Unknown job: unity-dash18:28
ogra_gcollura, unity8-dash18:35
dakergcollura: as ogra_ said unity8, does it work ?18:48
gcolluradaker, with unity8 the command does work, but I can only get to the Scopes loading screen (with the spinning circle). the logs from ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log are here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8823052/18:51
gcollurathanks ogra_ :)18:51
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mhall119chrisccoulson: are you involved in the Ozide/Ubuntu.Web component work? I'd like to know if I can get the long-press options that the browser has (copy/paste/save image) on the embeded component in my app19:02
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kenvandinerenatu, syncevolution takes much longer to build than i would have expected :)19:43
chrisci wonder if a "apt-get dist-upgrade" will work to switch from utopic to vivid after Thursday? I'm running "devel" ...19:46
chriscand would rather not flash a new image as I have some essential packages such as screen installed and woudl rather not have to reinstall everything...19:47
mardymhall119: is it possible to specify a custom page as index, in developer.ubuntu.com? Some modules (like QtQuick) do have a nice introductory page, while now all what one sees is just a long list of pages19:59
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mhall119mardy: not currently, no20:10
renatukenvandine, hi, are you trying to build the new version?20:12
kenvandinerenatu, yeah20:12
kenvandinehad to bump libsynthesis too20:12
kenvandinerenatu, i'll stick it in a ppa for you to kick a bit before uploading to vivid20:13
renatukenvandine, nice thanks20:18
Z3Hi, is Ubuntu Touch RTM stable (like Android) on a Nexus 4?21:03
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Z3stable to use it as a primary phone, not only for testing21:05
ogra_there are still bugs, but yes it is stable21:07
Z3ogra_ ok, thank you. Is there some date for the "final" release?21:09
ogra_nope, once you can buy the preinstalled phones it will be ready :)21:10
Z3ogra_ ok, thank you ! :)21:11
ogra_if oyu install, use the rtm channel ... that is the one getting the most QA testing21:11
Z3ogra_ ok ! :)21:12
dobeywell, hopefully there won't be a "final" release21:15
dobey:)21:15
kenvandineroll baby roll!21:15
dobeythere'll be the first phone, some updates for it, then another phone, then some updates for it and the original phone both, and then more development, and more phones, hopefully21:16
dobeyand tablets, and convergence, and oh my21:16
ogra_pitti, seems the dropping of the langpack causes issues on vivid ...22:31
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