/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/04/#ubuntu-uk.txt

bigcalmczajkowski: congrats on the new job. I thought Matt was in that role though?00:07
MooDoomorning all07:59
czajkowskibigcalm: I report to him and he looks after the technical advocates.08:09
MooDooczajkowski: new job czajkowski ?08:19
christelcongrats on the new job czajkowski! i hope it will be lots of fun08:31
Myrttijaiku run minecraft? what08:38
czajkowskiMooDoo: aye08:39
czajkowskiMooDoo: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2014/11/03/new-challenges-and-adventure-awaits/08:40
popeyMyrtti: haiku08:43
popeyMorning all btw08:43
MooDoowell congrats czajkowski :)08:46
MooDoomorning popey08:46
czajkowskiMooDoo: cheers08:46
Myrttipopey: phew08:46
Myrtticzajkowski: congrats!08:46
MooDooczajkowski: you certainly like your databases ;)08:52
zmoylan-pijust one of the areas where open source has a real presence in industry MooDoo?09:12
DJonesHaving to buy a replacement hdd, would I notice any significant improvement in day to day use by getting an SSD, normal use is just pidgin/IRC/email/browsing/minecraft, I'm tempted to get one, but find it hard to justify the extra cost for something I probably will never notice09:13
ali1234yes09:13
zmoylan-pifaster boot time from ssd09:13
zmoylan-pismaller storage09:13
ali1234if nothing else it will make your computer quieter and more efficient09:13
zmoylan-pialso maybe battery will last longer09:13
ali1234if you have such a thing, yes09:14
popeyDJones: aside from "more RAM" it's the single way to quickly boost a machine IME09:14
DJonesFaster boot time isn't a factor, I switch the laptop on and then go and do something while its booting anyway, very rarely run on battery09:14
popeyespecially if it's your boot drive09:14
ali1234my computer is CPU bound now09:14
popeyditto09:15
ali1234firefox is so slow on javascript heavy pages09:15
DJonesLaptop is virtually silent, hardkly any noise from it09:15
ali1234SSD also won't break if you drop it09:15
popeystop trying to talk yourself out of it and just buy one ㋛09:16
zmoylan-piwell... drop depends on the g's involved :-p09:16
ali1234for laptop i would not consider getting a HDD any more09:16
popeyditto09:16
zmoylan-pii prefer hdd every time as capacity is most important to me09:16
ali1234nah, i'm pretty sure i could throw my SSD at the ground as hard as possible and it would not break09:16
DJonesHeh, I'm trying to justify it, but can't see any appreciable reason for it09:16
zmoylan-piali1234 i'll take that bet :-)09:16
DJonesAny recommend makes of SSD or makes to avoid like the plague09:17
popeydont get the cheapest one you can find09:17
DJonesYeah, thats a given, not something I'vce looked at before, so don't know much about them09:18
popeyI have allsorts in mine, none have failed yet.09:18
popeyget the best performance / largest size but not the cheapest.09:19
ali1234get a crucial MX100 512GB09:19
popey500MB/s seems baseline now09:19
popeyooh, that looks nic09:19
* popey adds to wishlist09:19
DJonesI guess I should get something decent, its going in my Lenovo laptop, thats high spec'd anyway09:20
DJonesali1234: This one? http://www.ebuyer.com/644025-crucial-mx100-512gb-sata-6gbps-2-5inch-7mm-with-9-5mm-adapter-ssd-ct512mx100ssd109:20
ali1234yes09:20
DJonesThanks, will have a good look at it09:20
davmor2Morning all09:20
ali1234the thing about SSDs is they work the chips in parallel so bigger = faster09:20
ali1234MX100 are the cheapest per MB, they are also one of the fastest09:21
ali1234if you get the 512MB version09:21
DJonesThanks for the suggestions & advice09:22
popeythere is a downside, once you go SSD it's hard going back.09:23
DJonesHah09:23
ali1234they're cheap enough now that you'll never need to09:23
diploI've got an old Dell D820 that still works well but I'm sure the HDD is on it's way out, haven't read up on it yet but is there any reasons why SSD's won't work in it to give it a new lease of life ?09:24
popeyno, no reason09:25
diplohmm now googled it, a few posts about people asking :)09:25
* diplo investigates09:25
ali1234other than it's worth less than an SSD09:25
popeyheh09:25
diploheh very true ali1234, also don't have the money to replace it at the mo so a small cheaper ssd will do09:27
ali1234yeah, even if you get like 128GB it will still be faster than it can handle09:27
diploSeems that it doesn't support AHCI mode which supposedly makes a big difference but should work09:27
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Use Your Common Sense Day! :-D09:32
zmoylan-pithat'll never catch on09:33
JamesTaitzmoylan-pi, it's not looking promising, is it? :(09:33
zmoylan-pithat's why i have a big stick to help people make decisions JamesTait09:34
ujjainhow much is a certrified copy of an id card?09:38
NET||abusei'm having the worst, most unpredictable wifi performance on my laptop these days.09:39
NET||abusemy chip is an intel 7260 controler.09:40
davmor2JamesTait: well that's most of us up the swanny in the left hand we have common sense  in the right hand is grabbing for all the shiny things09:41
NET||abusei've gone to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf and added to the end   options iwlwifi 11n_disable=109:41
popeyNET||abuse: was about to suggest that09:41
popey09:41
NET||abusebut the connection everywhere i go, cafe's, home, the office (which has brilliant wifi for my android phone and all the mac's people are using)09:42
NET||abusearrrg,,,09:46
NET||abuseeven my ssh sessions go from smooth to jittery as hel09:46
NET||abusel09:46
NET||abuseaccording to lsmod, how do i check which firmware driver it's using?09:47
NET||abusegottit,, modinfo shows firmware:       iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode09:49
NET||abusei think -9 is even in my own firmware folder somewhere.09:49
JamesTaitdavmor2, I don't see the conflict. :-P09:50
davmor2JamesTait: that's because you are not using your common sense you are too busy chasing the shiny things :P09:56
czajkowskishinnnnny09:56
popeyNET||abuse: my intel wifi lists all kinds of firmware in modinfo09:58
popeymine's Centrino Wireless N-100009:59
czajkowskipopey: you on 14.10 ?10:00
popeyI are10:01
popeywish I wasn't ☻10:01
BigRedSIs it bad? I don't think any of the PCs I updated have noticed10:02
czajkowskipopey: ahh well can you check somethin for m please :)10:02
popeysure10:02
popeyBigRedS: i prefer LTS10:02
czajkowskipopey: close your screen down and see if you resume from there does your screen brightness stop working ?10:02
BigRedSyou're practically a Debian user :)10:03
czajkowskiBigRedS: runs fine for me using it for months, have one irritating bug that when I launch there is one bug I need to fix each time but it's not noticeable10:03
popeyczajkowski: no, that works fine10:04
popeyi do it all the time10:04
czajkowskihmmm10:04
czajkowskipopey: thank you10:05
popeyseen others mention it10:05
czajkowskisame happens when I plug in the laptop it seems to stop making the brighness work as well10:05
czajkowskitime to go and stab my machine10:05
czajkowskicould be brave and go vivid :)10:05
popeyerk10:05
popeyI wouldn't10:05
popeydecided what laptop you're going to buy?10:05
czajkowskipopey: I'm no that daft :) need a working machine for sure this week10:05
czajkowskipopey: sent in the laptops I'd like10:06
popeywhat's your list?10:06
popeylet me guess...10:06
popeyX1 carbon, dell xps, macbook air?10:06
czajkowskiX1 7 T44010:06
czajkowskiX1 & T44010:06
popeyhehe10:06
czajkowskiwas going to go with the XPS but couldnt find very good info on battery life10:06
czajkowskialso the fast charge on the X1 is amazing and very handy10:07
czajkowskianyone looking to go to the states next year, some very cheap flights from iceland http://wowair.co.uk/flights/book-flight10:09
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:12
popeyword10:13
DJonesOooh, Free gift time, £50 Wine voucher to use at virgin wines10:34
foobarryconditions apply*10:34
DJonesYeah, no doubt the case of wine will cost £15010:34
zmoylan-pialcohol free wine only10:35
foobarryshloer10:35
ujjainI like cheap and free10:37
foobarrywater?10:38
ujjainah yeah, I like that stuff.10:38
DJonesMinimum spend after voucher discount is £47.8810:38
DJonesI think I'll give that a miss then10:38
ujjainhttps://d1f6pkbpgobziu.cloudfront.net/media/lib/images/caseshots/Y25367_GroupShot_v1113_m56577569830947649.jpg - 12 bottles - 70 pound.10:40
ujjainyou can't -50 pound that?10:40
AzelphurQuestion for folks, does anyone have a Philips hue? How does it do in terms of brightness compared to a standard bulb? and what happens if the bulb dies?10:57
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:08
MooDoomorning11:09
brobostigonmorning bigcalm and MooDoo11:10
bigcalmo/11:10
davmor2MooDoo: bigcalm: morning guys how's life?11:11
bigcalmContinuing11:12
MooDoodavmor2: morning mate, looking at MS exams at the moment.11:16
davmor2MooDoo: <yoda_impression> hmmmmmmm that way leads to the dark side, full of evil that place, hmmmmmm </yoda_impression>11:18
AzelphurWow, so I found this kinda knockoff Philips hue site that sells for about a quarter of the price of the hue, the bulbs are brighter11:20
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
AzelphurI contact support and get this, http://pastebin.com/1Kn58XXH ... these guys are pretty damned awesome11:21
MooDoodavmor2: it helps with work11:21
davmor2MooDoo: I know but I couldn't resist ;)11:22
davmor2MooDoo: what you looking at msce or something more11:22
MooDoodavmor2: nah easier, MOS, microsoft office specialist...11:26
davmor2MooDoo: why on earth would you specialise in Microsoft offices, that has got to be limited work at best, MS can't have that many offices ;)11:28
MooDoodavmor2: lol har dee har har11:29
davmor2MooDoo: Oh come on that was desperate to be said that one :)11:30
MooDoodavmor2: yeah scraping the barrel you are.11:30
davmor2MooDoo: nothing new there then :)11:31
popeyjoin #dekko11:31
popeybah11:31
davmor2popey: man that is evil just randomly throwing channels up like that and subliminally telling people to join it11:32
popeyhaha11:33
MooDoopah email client for ubuntu devices ;p;11:34
popeyyes indeed11:34
MooDoocuriosity got the better of me11:35
davmor2MooDoo: don't mock dekko is a nice client :)11:35
popeyalao, free software11:37
popey\o/11:37
popeyunlike gmail / inbox11:37
davmor2popey: hmmm let me guess which you use everyday.......gmail/inbox right ;)11:38
popeynot inbox11:38
popeyi use non-free software to make free software11:38
popey</rms>11:38
foobarrywas excited when i saw gmail works with exchange now. cried when i saw it needs device admin again11:38
davmor2popey: hahahaha11:38
popeyor something11:38
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
foobarrylinkedin has a list of people i might know...some of them are people from my gmail account, including a person who emailed me by mistake. how does it know this?13:32
foobarryi've never explicitly allowed anything13:34
awilkinsDunno, but it's creepy innit13:36
awilkinsMaybe THEY allowed access?13:36
Myrttido you or have you had the app installed on your phone13:37
DJonesI've had that before with linkdin, kept getting spam from them when I hadn't even been on linkedin's website13:38
* awilkins is considering purging some apps, like Twitter's official client, from his phone13:38
awilkinsThey are all so flipping promiscuous about what data they want to mine these days13:38
foobarryi have no dsicernable connection and i've never installed linkedin app13:45
awilkinsPossible that these people had *their* contacts mined then13:46
awilkinsSocial graph traverses both ways13:46
foobarryseems unlikely13:46
foobarryhttps://community.linkedin.com/questions/115069/stop-the-people-you-may-know-feature-from-using-my.html13:47
foobarryi'm in the camp of people who never linked their stuff13:47
foobarrymy contacts aren't showing in linkedin13:48
foobarrybut i'm signed into gmail...wonder if realted13:49
popeyI often get linkedin spam14:10
popeybut I dont use linked in at all14:10
foobarrysigned into linkedin with icognito, it still kows about my gmail contacts which i never imported or linked14:10
MyrttiNexus 9 ♥14:24
Myrttivery Nexus 5ish.14:25
Myrttinice charger.14:25
DJonestheopensourcerer.com website gets a mention in #ubuntu14:29
knightwiseHmm.. nexus 9 looks pretty .. But the storage is sooooo limited !14:31
awilkinsStorage? But how will they profile everything you stream if they add storage?14:39
awilkinsAnd why is the charger nice?14:41
vad3rman1156128gb in my tab s :) NICE!14:41
awilkinsvad3rman1156, Have you rooted / Cyanogenmodded it?14:41
Myrttiawilkins: the third prong retracts a bit14:48
=== alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea
BigRedSdo I still need to use a particular ISO to install Ubuntu on wintel/UEFI Apple hardware?15:33
shaunoyou shouldn't  (this isn't a yes or a no, just a "that's the theory" ;)15:34
popeyyes.15:34
popey64-bit15:34
shaunoI was more referencing that the mac-specific isos don't exist anymore15:36
=== alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g
BigRedSah, cool, that explains why I can't find them. Cheers!15:40
shaunothat was just an odd transition period where grub-efi wasn't booting on intel macs.  so the mac-specific isos had no efi bits, to force the mac to use bios-emulation for them15:41
directhexshauno: for a while, many 64-bit macs had 32-bit EFI15:44
BigRedSooh, the site still offers 14.04 by default, is there some particular focus on LTSes now?15:47
mappsil endup weighing 20stone at this rate15:51
mappsliving next to mcdonalds makes it too easy;p15:51
bigcalmYou'll get bored of it15:53
mapps;]15:54
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
awilkins_CMDR_Barnowl21:22
awilkins_Oops21:22
=== awilkins_ is now known as CMDR_Barnowl
CMDR_BarnowlOops21:22
daftykins*hoots21:23
popeywoah, thunder21:27
popeybig loud thunder21:27
zmoylan-piwell quiet thunder rarely gets a mention21:30
daftykinslucky you!21:30
jussistorms are awesome21:35
diddledannot storming in hampshire :-(21:36
diddledannot very much happening at all in blighty really http://www.lightningmaps.org/realtime21:38
diddledanI'm assuming that one spot near guildford must be popey21:39
popeyya21:39
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!