[00:07] <bigcalm> czajkowski: congrats on the new job. I thought Matt was in that role though?
[07:59] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:09] <czajkowski> bigcalm: I report to him and he looks after the technical advocates.
[08:19] <MooDoo> czajkowski: new job czajkowski ?
[08:31] <christel> congrats on the new job czajkowski! i hope it will be lots of fun
[08:38] <Myrtti> jaiku run minecraft? what
[08:39] <czajkowski> MooDoo: aye
[08:40] <czajkowski> MooDoo: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2014/11/03/new-challenges-and-adventure-awaits/
[08:43] <popey> Myrtti: haiku
[08:43] <popey> Morning all btw
[08:46] <MooDoo> well congrats czajkowski :)
[08:46] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:46] <czajkowski> MooDoo: cheers
[08:46] <Myrtti> popey: phew
[08:46] <Myrtti> czajkowski: congrats!
[08:52] <MooDoo> czajkowski: you certainly like your databases ;)
[09:12] <zmoylan-pi> just one of the areas where open source has a real presence in industry MooDoo?
[09:13] <DJones> Having to buy a replacement hdd, would I notice any significant improvement in day to day use by getting an SSD, normal use is just pidgin/IRC/email/browsing/minecraft, I'm tempted to get one, but find it hard to justify the extra cost for something I probably will never notice
[09:13] <ali1234> yes
[09:13] <zmoylan-pi> faster boot time from ssd
[09:13] <zmoylan-pi> smaller storage
[09:13] <ali1234> if nothing else it will make your computer quieter and more efficient
[09:13] <zmoylan-pi> also maybe battery will last longer
[09:14] <ali1234> if you have such a thing, yes
[09:14] <popey> DJones: aside from "more RAM" it's the single way to quickly boost a machine IME
[09:14] <DJones> Faster boot time isn't a factor, I switch the laptop on and then go and do something while its booting anyway, very rarely run on battery
[09:14] <popey> especially if it's your boot drive
[09:14] <ali1234> my computer is CPU bound now
[09:15] <popey> ditto
[09:15] <ali1234> firefox is so slow on javascript heavy pages
[09:15] <DJones> Laptop is virtually silent, hardkly any noise from it
[09:15] <ali1234> SSD also won't break if you drop it
[09:16] <popey> stop trying to talk yourself out of it and just buy one ㋛
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> well... drop depends on the g's involved :-p
[09:16] <ali1234> for laptop i would not consider getting a HDD any more
[09:16] <popey> ditto
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> i prefer hdd every time as capacity is most important to me
[09:16] <ali1234> nah, i'm pretty sure i could throw my SSD at the ground as hard as possible and it would not break
[09:16] <DJones> Heh, I'm trying to justify it, but can't see any appreciable reason for it
[09:16] <zmoylan-pi> ali1234 i'll take that bet :-)
[09:17] <DJones> Any recommend makes of SSD or makes to avoid like the plague
[09:17] <popey> dont get the cheapest one you can find
[09:18] <DJones> Yeah, thats a given, not something I'vce looked at before, so don't know much about them
[09:18] <popey> I have allsorts in mine, none have failed yet.
[09:19] <popey> get the best performance / largest size but not the cheapest.
[09:19] <ali1234> get a crucial MX100 512GB
[09:19] <popey> 500MB/s seems baseline now
[09:19] <popey> ooh, that looks nic
[09:19]  * popey adds to wishlist
[09:20] <DJones> I guess I should get something decent, its going in my Lenovo laptop, thats high spec'd anyway
[09:20] <DJones> ali1234: This one? http://www.ebuyer.com/644025-crucial-mx100-512gb-sata-6gbps-2-5inch-7mm-with-9-5mm-adapter-ssd-ct512mx100ssd1
[09:20] <ali1234> yes
[09:20] <DJones> Thanks, will have a good look at it
[09:20] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:20] <ali1234> the thing about SSDs is they work the chips in parallel so bigger = faster
[09:21] <ali1234> MX100 are the cheapest per MB, they are also one of the fastest
[09:21] <ali1234> if you get the 512MB version
[09:22] <DJones> Thanks for the suggestions & advice
[09:23] <popey> there is a downside, once you go SSD it's hard going back.
[09:23] <DJones> Hah
[09:23] <ali1234> they're cheap enough now that you'll never need to
[09:24] <diplo> I've got an old Dell D820 that still works well but I'm sure the HDD is on it's way out, haven't read up on it yet but is there any reasons why SSD's won't work in it to give it a new lease of life ?
[09:25] <popey> no, no reason
[09:25] <diplo> hmm now googled it, a few posts about people asking :)
[09:25]  * diplo investigates
[09:25] <ali1234> other than it's worth less than an SSD
[09:25] <popey> heh
[09:27] <diplo> heh very true ali1234, also don't have the money to replace it at the mo so a small cheaper ssd will do
[09:27] <ali1234> yeah, even if you get like 128GB it will still be faster than it can handle
[09:27] <diplo> Seems that it doesn't support AHCI mode which supposedly makes a big difference but should work
[09:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Use Your Common Sense Day! :-D
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> that'll never catch on
[09:33] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, it's not looking promising, is it? :(
[09:34] <zmoylan-pi> that's why i have a big stick to help people make decisions JamesTait
[09:38] <ujjain> how much is a certrified copy of an id card?
[09:39] <NET||abuse> i'm having the worst, most unpredictable wifi performance on my laptop these days.
[09:40] <NET||abuse> my chip is an intel 7260 controler.
[09:41] <davmor2> JamesTait: well that's most of us up the swanny in the left hand we have common sense  in the right hand is grabbing for all the shiny things
[09:41] <NET||abuse> i've gone to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf and added to the end   options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[09:41] <popey> NET||abuse: was about to suggest that
[09:41] <popey> ☹
[09:42] <NET||abuse> but the connection everywhere i go, cafe's, home, the office (which has brilliant wifi for my android phone and all the mac's people are using)
[09:46] <NET||abuse> arrrg,,,
[09:46] <NET||abuse> even my ssh sessions go from smooth to jittery as hel
[09:46] <NET||abuse> l
[09:47] <NET||abuse> according to lsmod, how do i check which firmware driver it's using?
[09:49] <NET||abuse> gottit,, modinfo shows firmware:       iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode
[09:49] <NET||abuse> i think -9 is even in my own firmware folder somewhere.
[09:50] <JamesTait> davmor2, I don't see the conflict. :-P
[09:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: that's because you are not using your common sense you are too busy chasing the shiny things :P
[09:56] <czajkowski> shinnnnny
[09:58] <popey> NET||abuse: my intel wifi lists all kinds of firmware in modinfo
[09:59] <popey> mine's Centrino Wireless N-1000
[10:00] <czajkowski> popey: you on 14.10 ?
[10:01] <popey> I are
[10:01] <popey> wish I wasn't ☻
[10:02] <BigRedS> Is it bad? I don't think any of the PCs I updated have noticed
[10:02] <czajkowski> popey: ahh well can you check somethin for m please :)
[10:02] <popey> sure
[10:02] <popey> BigRedS: i prefer LTS
[10:02] <czajkowski> popey: close your screen down and see if you resume from there does your screen brightness stop working ?
[10:03] <BigRedS> you're practically a Debian user :)
[10:03] <czajkowski> BigRedS: runs fine for me using it for months, have one irritating bug that when I launch there is one bug I need to fix each time but it's not noticeable
[10:04] <popey> czajkowski: no, that works fine
[10:04] <popey> i do it all the time
[10:04] <czajkowski> hmmm
[10:05] <czajkowski> popey: thank you
[10:05] <popey> seen others mention it
[10:05] <czajkowski> same happens when I plug in the laptop it seems to stop making the brighness work as well
[10:05] <czajkowski> time to go and stab my machine
[10:05] <czajkowski> could be brave and go vivid :)
[10:05] <popey> erk
[10:05] <popey> I wouldn't
[10:05] <popey> decided what laptop you're going to buy?
[10:05] <czajkowski> popey: I'm no that daft :) need a working machine for sure this week
[10:06] <czajkowski> popey: sent in the laptops I'd like
[10:06] <popey> what's your list?
[10:06] <popey> let me guess...
[10:06] <popey> X1 carbon, dell xps, macbook air?
[10:06] <czajkowski> X1 7 T440
[10:06] <czajkowski> X1 & T440
[10:06] <popey> hehe
[10:06] <czajkowski> was going to go with the XPS but couldnt find very good info on battery life
[10:07] <czajkowski> also the fast charge on the X1 is amazing and very handy
[10:09] <czajkowski> anyone looking to go to the states next year, some very cheap flights from iceland http://wowair.co.uk/flights/book-flight
[10:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:13] <popey> word
[10:34] <DJones> Oooh, Free gift time, £50 Wine voucher to use at virgin wines
[10:34] <foobarry> conditions apply*
[10:34] <DJones> Yeah, no doubt the case of wine will cost £150
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> alcohol free wine only
[10:35] <foobarry> shloer
[10:37] <ujjain> I like cheap and free
[10:38] <foobarry> water?
[10:38] <ujjain> ah yeah, I like that stuff.
[10:38] <DJones> Minimum spend after voucher discount is £47.88
[10:38] <DJones> I think I'll give that a miss then
[10:40] <ujjain> https://d1f6pkbpgobziu.cloudfront.net/media/lib/images/caseshots/Y25367_GroupShot_v1113_m56577569830947649.jpg - 12 bottles - 70 pound.
[10:40] <ujjain> you can't -50 pound that?
[10:57] <Azelphur> Question for folks, does anyone have a Philips hue? How does it do in terms of brightness compared to a standard bulb? and what happens if the bulb dies?
[11:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:09] <MooDoo> morning
[11:10] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm and MooDoo
[11:10] <bigcalm> o/
[11:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: bigcalm: morning guys how's life?
[11:12] <bigcalm> Continuing
[11:16] <MooDoo> davmor2: morning mate, looking at MS exams at the moment.
[11:18] <davmor2> MooDoo: <yoda_impression> hmmmmmmm that way leads to the dark side, full of evil that place, hmmmmmm </yoda_impression>
[11:20] <Azelphur> Wow, so I found this kinda knockoff Philips hue site that sells for about a quarter of the price of the hue, the bulbs are brighter
[11:21] <Azelphur> I contact support and get this, http://pastebin.com/1Kn58XXH ... these guys are pretty damned awesome
[11:21] <MooDoo> davmor2: it helps with work
[11:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: I know but I couldn't resist ;)
[11:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: what you looking at msce or something more
[11:26] <MooDoo> davmor2: nah easier, MOS, microsoft office specialist...
[11:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: why on earth would you specialise in Microsoft offices, that has got to be limited work at best, MS can't have that many offices ;)
[11:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: lol har dee har har
[11:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: Oh come on that was desperate to be said that one :)
[11:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah scraping the barrel you are.
[11:31] <davmor2> MooDoo: nothing new there then :)
[11:31] <popey> join #dekko
[11:31] <popey> bah
[11:32] <davmor2> popey: man that is evil just randomly throwing channels up like that and subliminally telling people to join it
[11:33] <popey> haha
[11:34] <MooDoo> pah email client for ubuntu devices ;p;
[11:34] <popey> yes indeed
[11:35] <MooDoo> curiosity got the better of me
[11:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: don't mock dekko is a nice client :)
[11:37] <popey> alao, free software
[11:37] <popey> \o/
[11:37] <popey> unlike gmail / inbox
[11:38] <davmor2> popey: hmmm let me guess which you use everyday.......gmail/inbox right ;)
[11:38] <popey> not inbox
[11:38] <popey> i use non-free software to make free software
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[11:38] <foobarry> was excited when i saw gmail works with exchange now. cried when i saw it needs device admin again
[11:38] <davmor2> popey: hahahaha
[11:38] <popey> or something
[13:32] <foobarry> linkedin has a list of people i might know...some of them are people from my gmail account, including a person who emailed me by mistake. how does it know this?
[13:34] <foobarry> i've never explicitly allowed anything
[13:36] <awilkins> Dunno, but it's creepy innit
[13:36] <awilkins> Maybe THEY allowed access?
[13:37] <Myrtti> do you or have you had the app installed on your phone
[13:38] <DJones> I've had that before with linkdin, kept getting spam from them when I hadn't even been on linkedin's website
[13:38]  * awilkins is considering purging some apps, like Twitter's official client, from his phone
[13:38] <awilkins> They are all so flipping promiscuous about what data they want to mine these days
[13:45] <foobarry> i have no dsicernable connection and i've never installed linkedin app
[13:46] <awilkins> Possible that these people had *their* contacts mined then
[13:46] <awilkins> Social graph traverses both ways
[13:46] <foobarry> seems unlikely
[13:47] <foobarry> https://community.linkedin.com/questions/115069/stop-the-people-you-may-know-feature-from-using-my.html
[13:47] <foobarry> i'm in the camp of people who never linked their stuff
[13:48] <foobarry> my contacts aren't showing in linkedin
[13:49] <foobarry> but i'm signed into gmail...wonder if realted
[14:10] <popey> I often get linkedin spam
[14:10] <popey> but I dont use linked in at all
[14:10] <foobarry> signed into linkedin with icognito, it still kows about my gmail contacts which i never imported or linked
[14:24] <Myrtti> Nexus 9 ♥
[14:25] <Myrtti> very Nexus 5ish.
[14:25] <Myrtti> nice charger.
[14:29] <DJones> theopensourcerer.com website gets a mention in #ubuntu
[14:31] <knightwise> Hmm.. nexus 9 looks pretty .. But the storage is sooooo limited !
[14:39] <awilkins> Storage? But how will they profile everything you stream if they add storage?
[14:41] <awilkins> And why is the charger nice?
[14:41] <vad3rman1156> 128gb in my tab s :) NICE!
[14:41] <awilkins> vad3rman1156, Have you rooted / Cyanogenmodded it?
[14:48] <Myrtti> awilkins: the third prong retracts a bit
[15:33] <BigRedS> do I still need to use a particular ISO to install Ubuntu on wintel/UEFI Apple hardware?
[15:34] <shauno> you shouldn't  (this isn't a yes or a no, just a "that's the theory" ;)
[15:34] <popey> yes.
[15:34] <popey> 64-bit
[15:36] <shauno> I was more referencing that the mac-specific isos don't exist anymore
[15:40] <BigRedS> ah, cool, that explains why I can't find them. Cheers!
[15:41] <shauno> that was just an odd transition period where grub-efi wasn't booting on intel macs.  so the mac-specific isos had no efi bits, to force the mac to use bios-emulation for them
[15:44] <directhex> shauno: for a while, many 64-bit macs had 32-bit EFI
[15:47] <BigRedS> ooh, the site still offers 14.04 by default, is there some particular focus on LTSes now?
[15:51] <mapps> il endup weighing 20stone at this rate
[15:51] <mapps> living next to mcdonalds makes it too easy;p
[15:53] <bigcalm> You'll get bored of it
[15:54] <mapps> ;]
[21:22] <awilkins_> CMDR_Barnowl
[21:22] <awilkins_> Oops
[21:22] <CMDR_Barnowl> Oops
[21:23] <daftykins> *hoots
[21:27] <popey> woah, thunder
[21:27] <popey> big loud thunder
[21:30] <zmoylan-pi> well quiet thunder rarely gets a mention
[21:30] <daftykins> lucky you!
[21:35] <jussi> storms are awesome
[21:36] <diddledan> not storming in hampshire :-(
[21:38] <diddledan> not very much happening at all in blighty really http://www.lightningmaps.org/realtime
[21:39] <diddledan> I'm assuming that one spot near guildford must be popey
[21:39] <popey> ya