[00:41] <funkytwig> Hi, I am having trouble with nm-applet, I run it and try to connect to several wireless networks but just get a spinning arrow then it gives up.
[00:57] <Heliarc> Whats the best Disk Utility for Xubuntu?
[02:10] <wlxmhls1> ?
[05:25] <xubuntu75i> Hello, there. I have a question about my installation and need some help, please.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> !help | xubuntu75i
[05:29] <xubuntu75i> Thank you. Anyways, my problem is that the installation is hanging at the creation of the ext4 file system in my first partition. I expanded it, and theres been no activity for about an hour now.
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | xubuntu75i, 1.  verify your .iso    2. verify your USB
[05:41] <xubuntu75i> From the looks of it, I'll have to stop the installation to do that. While I was reading the two links, a few more lines popped up talking about failure to enable a usb device. I should probably also let you know that I'm booting from a disk.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> xubuntu75i, yes you do need to stop the install.  I'm guessing your .iso or USB are faulty.  gigo.  md5sum takes less than 5 minutes to do both checks ...
[08:30] <rghvdberg> anyone aware of a problem with remote filesystems in thunar ? I can acces my ftp server, but I can not open files from the filemanager (broken pipe or something).
[14:40] <scott_zim> Is there a way to install windows 7 directly from Xubuntu? I cannot get my computer to boot to CD/DVD/USB but I can load Xubuntu from the one and only working SATA Drive
[15:27] <ChrisD24> Hey guys - anyone have duplicate icons in the panel? I setup my fourth xubuntu computer (my MacBook Pro) - which is my own and after installing it three times (long story) each time after a while I would get two bluetooth icons on the top and two clocks...I hid the extra ones, but why is my computer the only one doing strange things none of the others do? :)
[15:35] <holstein> ChrisD24: could be simply hardware related.. could be something you are not thinking is causing the issue. could be anything in the config of the desktop.. added packages, etc
[15:37] <ChrisD24> Hm - well I hid them so out of sight out of mind. I had one heck of a time with integrated graphics - I finally just switched off the ATI. I tried and tried and finally said heck with it. I don't do anything that requires ATI.
[15:38] <holstein> it can be challenging.. i had a challenging time with macbook hardware and linux.. i ended up with reFit that seemed to help.. but, i just dont use that hardare unless i have to
[15:39] <holstein> i like to think of it this way.. apple, and any manufacturer are welcome and encouraged to make sure that xubuntu or any linux OS can run well on the hardware they sell.. all of linux is open, so its quite available for them to do so.. if they dont, or if they actually make it challenging for the hardware to be supported, then, it will be challenging for the end user
[15:39] <YourPlaceOrMine> Hi :)
[15:39] <ChrisD24> I tried with refind, but I just added the outb commands to grub loader and powered down the discrete graphics.
[15:40] <holstein> it could be just a few "fiddly" things as far as support that makes the issues you see happen
[15:40] <ChrisD24> I have the 2011 with my 2nd or 3rd ATI graphics chip replaced - so it's not like it would last if I used it anyhow.
[15:40] <holstein> ChrisD24: i also wasnt trying to dual boot.. not sure if that mades things easier
[15:41] <YourPlaceOrMine> any way i can clean up xubuntu i have ssd.  say's bleachbit not recommended?
[15:41] <YourPlaceOrMine> ty
[15:41] <YourPlaceOrMine> i'm fairly fresh 2 linux
[15:42] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: what do you mean by "cleanup" ?
[15:42] <YourPlaceOrMine> oh well like on windows 8 i delete and clean a lot junk
[15:42] <ChrisD24>  I removed Mac OS completely and straight EFI boot into Ubuntu. No more Mac.
[15:42] <YourPlaceOrMine> do i need 2 here?
[15:43] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: the web browser you use should have easy tools for wiping history.. or modes like icognito mode
[15:43] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: you dont "need" to in windows.. but, you can if yo uwant
[15:43] <ChrisD24> I removed Windows 8 from my partners mothers computer - so sick of cleaning up adware. So I said I'm putting this on.
[15:43] <YourPlaceOrMine> oh ok thank you
[15:43] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: if you want to remove something, you can remove it.. but, there wont be a "cleanup" button, since, its up to you to determine what is "dirty"
[15:45] <YourPlaceOrMine> ok great, ty so much, i found some info on google 2
[15:45] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: you can link whatever info you find on google here and ask. i suggest *not* just randomly copy/pasting commands into the terminal that you find on google
[15:46] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: any command that you run as sudo.. like "sudo command" is running the command as root, and can cause issues if you are unaware of what is happening
[15:47] <ChrisD24> holstien are you using your MB now? What kind is it?
[15:47] <YourPlaceOrMine> synaptic manager for removing app's is way 2 go?
[15:47] <YourPlaceOrMine> i wanna switch parole for vlc
[15:47] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: not that im trying to scare you away from a sudo command.. just be aware.. and try asking a precise detailed question.. "im trying to clear hard drive space".. etc
[15:48] <YourPlaceOrMine> yes ty
[15:48] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: just install vlc.. you can use synaptic if you like.. but, why are you removing?
[15:48] <YourPlaceOrMine> this look's like fun, linux is sweet so far
[15:48] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: for example, you wont clear up much hard drive space removing parole.. its likely under 10mb's installed
[15:49] <holstein> YourPlaceOrMine: having it installed doesnt mean its running like a service, so, its not taking up CPU or ram.. and little hard drive space..
[15:49] <YourPlaceOrMine> ok will keep it, that makes sense
[15:49] <YourPlaceOrMine> i got a lot room
[15:49] <holstein> i mean, remove it if you want.. but, dont remove it to clear up hard drive space.. you wont save much that way
[15:51] <prim> I'm trying to set my screen resolution like so: http://pastebin.com/vUbiF2P5 , where can add this so that the change is persistent through reboots? I have tried various methods read from outdated threads with no success.
[15:53] <ChrisD24> holstein (mis tagged you) are you using your MB now? What kind is it?
[15:53] <holstein> prim: ill use arandr. and create a script from it. it'll export it.. i use it in xfce
[15:54] <holstein> ChrisD24: older white one.. i dont use it right now, since, i loaned the power supply
[15:54] <ChrisD24> Oh ok :)
[15:55] <holstein> ChrisD24: i was using an older kernel, that seemed to support the hardware best out of the box
[15:56] <holstein> im not the kind of guy who takes a machine from 2007, and expects a kernel from 2014 to support all the hardware out of the box :)
[15:56] <prim> holstein, alright I've done that http://pastebin.com/BHYHeT0F where should I plug this script in so it runs on boot?
[15:56] <holstein> prim: i literally added it into the startup session for my user
[15:56] <prim> holstein, can you be more specific
[15:57] <holstein> prim: in the GUI.. "sessions" iirc.. the area labeled "startup".
[15:57] <prim> holstein, thank you~~
[15:57] <holstein> prim: looks like http://askubuntu.com/questions/369406/xubuntu-apps-loading-at-start-up
[15:57] <ChrisD24> :) Well 2011 to 2014 isn't to old. :) I think I have a lot of life left in this baby. :)
[15:58] <prim> holstein, rebooting to test it out
[15:58] <holstein> prim: i took the export i was given from arandr, and made a bash script that i tested.. and then added to autostart.. seems like i had to sleep it.. i know there are many ways to do the same thing
[16:02] <YourPlaceOrMine> have nice day holstein, ur help was great!
[16:16] <prim> ok so the script that AandR generated was not sufficient: http://pastebin.com/BHYHeT0F , as the resolution I am trying to set is not listed by default (hence why I need to create it before choosing it using the following xrandr commands:) http://pastebin.com/vUbiF2P5 , so I tried this instead: http://pastebin.com/Be2hbf8p (I tried adding each to the startup session) with no luck.
[16:18] <holstein> prim: you should be able to edit the script that is provided to be what you want
[16:18] <holstein> prim: you can also add a custom xorg.conf.. but, the hardware will have to be capable of what you are trying to do.. hardware and drivers..
[16:18] <holstein> prim: arandr is just a GUI..
[16:18] <prim> holstein, as far as editing the AandR sript, isn't that what I did here http://pastebin.com/Be2hbf8p ?
[16:19] <holstein> prim: you can test that, and see if it works.. if its not, then, maybe the hardware isnt capable.. has the hardware ever done that geometry for you under linux?
[16:20] <holstein> prim: if the script sets what you want, and works.. then, add it to autostart.. but, if it doesnt work "stand-alone", it wont work at startup
[16:20] <prim> I'll explain again. The resolution I want it not listed. I have to manually set this resolution in a terminal using these three commands each time I boot up:  http://pastebin.com/vUbiF2P5
[16:21] <prim> holstein, I just want this to be done automatically when I boot up
[16:21] <holstein> prim: sure.. do the 3 commands actually work? if so, add the script that is tested and working to the autostart
[16:21] <prim> yes they work perfectly fine
[16:22] <holstein> prim: try adding the script to the autostart.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/369406/xubuntu-apps-loading-at-start-up
[16:22] <prim> Yes I made this script http://pastebin.com/Be2hbf8p and added it to my startup session like you suggested
[16:22] <holstein> prim: ok.. and?
[16:22] <prim> however the screen defaults to 1024x768
[16:22] <holstein> prim: try sleeping the start of that script
[16:23] <prim> I haven't got much experience with bash script
[16:23] <prim> sec ill googlez
[16:23] <holstein> prim: test *that* exact bash script and see that it works.. if it works, then try adding it to the startup.. if when you start it, it seems that the default settings are overriding it, try sleeping the start of that command in the startup GUI in xfce session
[16:27] <prim> brb
[16:33] <prim> holstein, ok thanks, this pastebin.com/YK1by40N works when added to session startup, arander isn't very helpful for new modes. thanks for the help!
[16:51] <Airbander> Hi guys
[16:51] <Airbander> how bring back the sound icon and connexion in app barre and thanks
[17:28] <Walliski> Hey guys
[17:28] <Walliski> Got some computers that are going to be used for public use
[17:28] <Walliski> And want to logout users
[17:29] <Walliski> that are inactive for a while
[17:29] <Walliski> What is the way to do this?
[17:29] <Walliski> ATM I got a script that checks logged in users, and sees if xprintidle > than my value
[17:29] <Walliski> And if that is the case, it finds the correct DBUS for this user, and tries to run the logout method on it
[17:30] <Walliski> However this doesnt seem to work
[17:30] <Walliski> As if the DBUS doesnt want to recieve commands from the "wrong" user...
[17:30] <Walliski> Any ideas how to do it?
[17:32] <Airbander> sorry i didnt understand what you said
[17:33] <Airbander> i'm new in linux
[17:33] <Walliski> I suppose I wont get much help from you then either ;) But don't worry, it comes with the years..
[17:34] <GridCube> Walliski: wouldnt lightlocker be the one who takes care of that?
[17:34] <GridCube> like if lightlocker activates after x amount of time and locks the screen, then you relog
[17:35] <Unit193> Walliski: What address are you sending the dbus command to?  I take it, you can't sudo -u $USER dbus-send  it?
[17:35] <Airbander> months
[17:38] <GridCube> Walliski: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xlock
[17:39] <GridCube> has -forceLogout variable
[17:41] <Airbander> guys i solve't the network icon
[17:41] <Airbander> in the panel barre
[17:42] <Airbander> just add Indicator Plugin to show the network icon
[17:42] <GridCube> re-added the plugin indicator as suggested?
[17:42] <Airbander> ya
[17:43] <GridCube> :)
[17:43] <Airbander> delete the old one
[17:43] <Airbander> and add the new because the old have some pices missing
[17:43] <Walliski> Unit193: We made it work somehow, was some problems with the user we was testing with :X :X
[17:43] <GridCube> well done Airbander you in the path to being sort of good at something, thats all what we can wish for
[17:43] <Walliski> Got it working somehow
[17:44] <Walliski> GridCube: How can I force all users to use that?
[17:44] <Unit193> Walliski: Hah, nice.
[17:44] <GridCube> Walliski: no idea
[17:44] <Walliski> :D
[17:44] <Airbander> thanks GridCube I LOVE LINUX
[17:45] <Walliski> GridCube: Thanks for the tip, I'll see if it would be a smarter alternative.. The "logoutButton" seemed nice, it is similiar to something we have had in a many year old linux distro
[17:46] <Airbander> Wall you cant logout ?
[17:46] <GridCube> no Airbander he has a particular case use
[17:47] <Airbander> ok
[17:47] <Walliski> Airbander: The problem is that someone uses the computer, goes away with the computer locked, forgets about it, and leaves it logged in forever...
[17:47] <Airbander> i think this will help Ctr+Alt+F4
[17:48] <Airbander> ah
[17:48] <Airbander> very complicated for me :)
[17:48] <Walliski> And multiple users logged in is not an alternative, since it makes the computer slow
[17:48] <Airbander> killall
[17:49] <Airbander> :D
[17:49] <Airbander> i'm new in linux sorry i can't help
[17:49] <Airbander> but i will think about it
[17:50] <Walliski> One can kill all the guys processes... But if you do it the proper way, it will save the session, which programs are open etc :)
[17:50] <Walliski> WHilst killing processes kills everything and wont let the programs save in case they do
[17:51] <Airbander> yep
[17:51] <Airbander> thanks for info
[17:51] <Walliski> But yeah, I got the script somehow working, I'll fix the last bits, and then I can share if I remember :P
[17:51] <GridCube> Airbander: :) please join #xubuntu-offtopic for random chatter
[17:51] <Airbander> ok thanks GridCube
[17:52] <GridCube> we try to leave this place just to answer support questions and not add comments or suggestions that don't really help
[17:55] <xubuntu70w> What's the best irc client for xubuntu?
[17:56] <Unit193> xubuntu70w: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors.  Are you looking for a graphical or terminal client?  One which keeps scrollback or only when you're sitting there?
[18:03] <xubuntu70w> Unit193: probabily GUI? I use weechat on my laptop from terminal so I guess GUI might be easier to navigate
[18:03] <xubuntu70w> I guess I am asking for the general, most easy to use, beginner friendly client
[18:05] <Unit193> Perhaps Hexchat or Xchat then, but there are many others (kvirc, quassel, smuxi, etc, etc.)  If you have a server, you can run weechat in screen and just attach to that session from anywhere.
[18:06] <xubuntu70w> Unit193: Oh yeah cool. That works with tmux as well right?
[18:06] <Unit193> xubuntu70w: Right, of course.
[18:06] <xubuntu70w> Attaching a session means resuming from previous convo, so I could see my previous chats?
[18:06] <Unit193> Silly tmux users... :(
[18:06] <Unit193> :P
[18:06] <xubuntu70w> :D
[18:07] <Unit193> xubuntu70w: Right, you'd be able to see backlog and what's been going on since you didn't close the client.
[18:07] <nodedfree> xubuntu70w, why don't you use bouncer in order to detach previous sessions?
[18:07] <xubuntu70w> what's bouncer
[18:07] <nodedfree> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
[18:08] <nodedfree> keeps you alive, even when the client is off.
[18:08] <xubuntu70w> Oh, I guess I can try that but since I use tmux anyways, I guess I can work with weechat
[18:09] <Unit193> weechat or irssi, like tmux vs screen.
[18:10] <nodedfree> terminal irc into tmux.. :s
[18:11] <xubuntu70w> nodedfree: I don't know if you are hinting if you are against it or not...? Is there any problem with using terminal weechat with tmux?? Just curious
[18:12] <nodedfree> it's non friendly.. into tmux you can't even scroll up.
[18:13] <xubuntu70w> nodedfree: Weechat itself seems to support page up and down, but do those not work if you are in multiplexor?
[18:14] <xubuntu70w> Also, when you connect to freenode, it's just /connect #freenode right?
[18:14] <nodedfree> i have no experience with weechat. but even vi & nano has scrolling - that doesn't compatible with tmux
[18:15] <Unit193> nodedfree: Yes, yes they are...
[18:15] <Unit193> xubuntu70w: /connect freenode, actually.
[18:15] <xubuntu70w> nodedfree: Hmmm... I guess I will work with tmux + weechat, and if that doesn't work out, I will go with bouncer
[18:15] <xubuntu70w> oh
[18:15] <xubuntu70w> yeah it worked
[18:15] <nodedfree> have fun..
[18:16] <xubuntu70w> No I meant freenode
[18:16] <xubuntu70w> not scrolling. Haven't tried it yet haha
[18:19] <Unit193> And remember, http://weechat.org/doc/
[18:36] <Airbander> excuse my guy when i type cd // he give me root@(nameuser)//:    but when i type cd //// he just give me one /
[18:36] <Airbander> why ? and thanks
[18:40] <Airbander> i have a video
[18:40] <Airbander> i want read it using vlc but i dont know how from terminal
[18:40] <Airbander> plz the command and thanks
[18:42] <Airbander> it's ok guys
[18:42] <Airbander> i found it :D
[19:30] <Airbander> i want change the title of my terminal and i typed set title Airbander
[19:30] <Airbander> i'm in danger or not ?
[19:57] <nodedfree> Airbander, gnome-terminal --title="SOME TITLE HERE" ?
[19:57] <Airbander> yep i'm here
[19:57] <Airbander> there is no way to titled the windows using command line ?
[19:58] <holstein> Airbander: yes.. that *is* using the command line
[19:58] <holstein> gnome-terminal --title="SOME TITLE HERE"
[19:58] <Airbander> thanks you are the man let my try it
[20:01] <Airbander> excuse me didnt work
[20:03] <holstein> Airbander: any errors? or questions you would like to ask?
[20:03] <Airbander> ya
[20:03] <holstein> Airbander: you can try all of these options as well.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title
[20:04] <Airbander> i noticed if someone give me a command line i need to download it
[20:04] <holstein> Airbander: download what?
[20:04] <Airbander> i imagine if i dont have connexion how can i mange that
[20:04] <Airbander> the command
[20:04] <Airbander> for exemple gnome-terminal
[20:04] <holstein> Airbander: none of those commands require connection
[20:05] <Airbander> yep
[20:05] <Airbander> he asked me to install it
[20:05] <holstein> Airbander: gnome-terminal just runs gnome-terminal..
[20:05] <Airbander> wait
[20:05] <Airbander> neotron@Neotron:/$ gnome-terminal --title= hello
[20:05] <Airbander> The program 'gnome-terminal' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[20:05] <Airbander> sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[20:06] <holstein> Airbander: then, install that terminal, if you want to use it.. or try renaming the xfce one
[20:06] <Airbander> ok if this is the command with i install vlc
[20:06] <holstein> Airbander: in the GUI http://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/preferences
[20:07] <Airbander> i was needing connexion so i think it's the same with gnome-terminal
[20:07] <Airbander> thanks for the docx
[20:07] <holstein> Airbander: no.. you dont *need* a connection.. but, if you dont have the application installed, you need to install it first
[20:07] <Airbander> ok
[20:08] <Airbander> thanks for the info
[20:08] <Airbander> infos*
[20:14] <xubuntu681> im installing xubuntu
[20:17] <Airbander> nice
[20:33] <Airbander> Hi
[20:34] <Airbander> i couldnt install vim without connexion
[21:37] <attrapereves> Hi guys, I am having a problem. My USB seems to die at the login screen. The mouse and keyboard do not respond. Any ideas?
[21:37] <attrapereves> I usually have to manually reboot 3-5 times before it will work again.
[21:38] <ObrienDave> try a relog?
[21:39] <genii> Alternately, if these are external devices, try unplugging, wait 10-15 seconds, replug
[21:40] <attrapereves> During this time, the optic in the mouse does not light up.
[21:43] <attrapereves> It's very irritating as it happens about 2-3 times a week and is not reproducable.
[21:44] <ObrienDave> attrapereves, are these corded?
[21:45] <attrapereves> ObrienDave, yes, both USB keyboard and mouse.
[21:46] <ObrienDave> i had same issue with corded mouse disconnecting. bought a wireless logitech m510. happy ever since
[21:46] <attrapereves> The keyboard doesn't respond either...
[21:46] <attrapereves> Pretty much leaves the only option to power down the machine and reboot.
[22:49] <s4va> I have just updated xubuntu 14.04 x86_64 to 14.10 but the kernel was not updated and i still have 3.13 kernel. And there are no new kernels in the /boot directory. Could anybody explain me how to correctly update the kernel to the correct version?
[22:52] <Unit193> s4va: First, lsb_release -a; then sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[22:53] <slickymaster> s4va, xubuntu 14.04.1 includes by default the 3.13.0-32.57 Ubuntu Linux kernel
[22:54] <slickymaster> oh, I see you upgraded from 14.04, not to 14.04 :P
[22:56] <s4va> yeap)
[22:57] <s4va> lsb_release -a: http://paste.debian.net/130331
[23:08] <s4va> ty, Unit193
[23:41] <yazdmich> how long should the live image take to boot?
[23:41] <yazdmich> oh, here we are
[23:41] <yazdmich> nvm