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soeegood morning07:14
lordievaderGood morning.08:45
_Groo_good morning10:04
Riddellhola10:08
apacheloggeryo10:09
apacheloggerneon ppas are no more10:09
tsdgeosRiddell: you guys planning to update artikulate at any point?10:10
_Groo_life on the cutting edge is always fun10:22
_Groo_since kwin didnt compile for amd64, im back to unity :D10:22
_Groo_i was about to test the new telepathy :( bummer10:23
Riddelltsdgeos: it's waiting on some dep isn't it?10:26
tsdgeosi do not know, just asking 10:27
Riddelltsdgeos: oh it was waiting on qt-gstreamer I think which I've now updated so groovy I can sort that in vivid10:28
Riddellbut I had to remove kamoso to make way for it10:28
sgclarkmorning10:42
Riddellhola scarletta10:43
Riddelltsdgeos: did d_ed send you something for security-preannounce?10:43
Riddelltsdgeos: oh never mind just found it in my e-mail10:43
Riddellsgclark: we should work out when and what we're doing for UOS10:45
RiddellSick_Rimmit: want to help out too?10:45
sgclarkRiddell: yeah we should10:46
soeeRiddell: ktp-* in staging are all fine ?10:46
Sick_RimmitYes provided the timings work with me, I could do something simple on KDE Activities, or anything else you think10:46
sgclarkSick_Rimmit: you up for another package?10:47
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: Yes,but not quite yet, I have libkpeople to update for Utopic, just a few fixes there10:47
Riddellsoee: you tell me, it needs tested :)10:48
RiddellSick_Rimmit: libkpeople has a utopic build in staging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages10:49
_Groo_soee: i was about to test it when i lost kwin :(10:49
Riddellalthough it needs testing10:49
sgclarkRiddell: I will work on k3b today as I promised valorie I would do it yesterday, I can find another package for Sick_Rimmit when he is ready :)10:50
_Groo_im waiting for the kubuntu-ci to do is thing so i can get back to my bleeding edge beloved kde10:50
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I got some issues from you, which I thought needed fixing, is that no so10:50
soeeill try to do an upgrade than10:50
sgclarkRiddell: also I think you need to fix you script, ECM was missed again yesterday lol10:52
Riddellhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging  grantlee (twice), digikam, gtk2-engines-oxygen (and gtk3 I guess), phonon. take your pick :)10:53
Riddellsgclark: well spotted on there, my bad indeed10:53
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834058/10:56
soeeoh wait it should be dist-upgrade (full-upgrade) isnt it ? 10:57
Riddellsoee: yep  apt full-upgrade10:58
Riddellsgclark, Sick_Rimmit: I can do a session this evening, tomorrow evening I'm out11:00
soeeRiddell: kpeople fails http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834085/11:00
Riddellsgclark, Sick_Rimmit: does 18:00UTC work?11:00
Riddellsoee: ooh interesting11:00
Riddellsoee:   dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-kpeople_0.9.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_amd64.deb  should fix it, does that show any more overlapping files?11:01
Riddells/fix/workaround/11:01
kubotuRiddell meant: "soee:   dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-kpeople_0.9.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_amd64.deb  should workaround it, does that show any more overlapping files?"11:01
sgclarkRiddell: umm you are out for my devel tests????11:01
Riddellsgclark: when is that?11:01
* sgclark cries11:01
Riddellsgclark: there's nothing on the schedule! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/11:02
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834131/11:03
sgclarkRiddell: tomorrow is my kubuntu-devel test . the summit is on the 13th no? 11:03
* sgclark is confused11:03
soeebrb in 30 min11:03
Riddellsgclark: it's today, tomorrow and friday.  but there's nothing on any schedule11:04
sgclarkwhat?!?! they gave me 2 days to set it up??11:05
sgclarkthat is not cool11:05
Riddellsgclark: oh hang on...11:06
Riddellsgclark: the dates changed, my calendar is all wrong!11:06
sgclarkRiddell: 11:06
sgclarkStarts: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:00:00 UTC11:06
sgclarkEnds: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:55:00 UTC11:06
sgclarkhah11:06
Riddelland just to confuse me the schedule has today's date and not the date of the day it's showing on it http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/11:07
sgclarkbut on a serious note.. you marked available for my tests and I am not going to do it without you there... are you now not available tomorrow?11:07
Riddellsgclark: what time did you decide on?11:08
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RiddellI did say to a friend yesterday I'd go out for a cycle ride tomorrow evening11:08
sgclarkRiddell: 11:09
sgclarkBy Popular demand the meeting will take place Thursday 9:00 PM UTC 11:09
sgclark1:00PM(my time)11:09
sgclarkas sent to the devel list..11:09
Riddellwhich seems to be at 19:00UTC11:09
Riddellright so I need to work out if it'll get back before 21:00UTC11:10
Riddellbut that's my problem not yours :)11:10
sgclarkwell yes it is. I wnt you there11:10
Riddellworry not, I'll work it out11:11
sgclarkyour my confidence haha11:11
sgclarkthanks11:11
Riddellbut same thing next week, I'm busy thursday from 17:00UTC but free wednesday and friday any time11:12
sgclarkOk, Sick_Rimmit which is better for you Wed or Fri for the summit? and I need you LP id to add you to the blueprint11:13
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: Prefer Weds11:24
sgclarkok. LP name?11:24
sgclarklaunchpad id11:25
sgclarkSick_Rimmit: ^11:26
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: LP is rick-timmis11:27
sgclarkRiddell: does this fall under users or community? (UOS)11:34
Riddellsgclark: um, I've no idea what the difference is11:37
sgclarkhah me either11:38
apacheloggersgclark: shadeslayer wants to talk about kci he said11:39
sgclark?11:39
sgclarkat UOS?11:39
shadeslayerwhat no11:39
shadeslayerapachelogger is supposed to talk about KCI11:39
shadeslayeractually11:40
shadeslayerlet me schedule that session for you11:40
sgclarkKCI?11:40
shadeslayerhttp://kci.pangea.pub/11:40
shadeslayerthe thing that's all red11:40
sgclarkoh our ci system, gosh I need more coffee11:41
Riddelldunno if it's worth having more than one session for Kubuntu11:41
RiddellI don't know if there's an audience for these or not11:41
apacheloggerno one reads my mails, so shadeslayer might as well do a session :P11:42
sgclarkumm11:42
shadeslayerI do read your emails11:42
sgclarkI do too11:42
* sgclark looks11:42
* shadeslayer just doesn't have anything to say11:42
_Groo_and all the girls say im pretty fly.. for a wifi!!! best SSID EVER!11:42
_Groo_ppl at work are very creative :P11:43
* apachelogger doesn't get it11:43
* sgclark doesn't either11:43
Riddellthat is amusing11:45
Riddellit's a pun or play on words on a song11:45
sgclarkapachelogger: I cannot find any mails from you in regards to kci and uos. But I really think it would fit in our plasma5 session as we use it for plasma511:46
Riddellsgclark: yep book them both in to present a bit on the same session11:58
sgclarkok11:58
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sgclarkapachelogger: shadeslayer: Is Wed (next week) ok for both of you for UOS12:00
shadeslayerI'm not talking about KCI12:01
shadeslayersince I know very little about it :P12:01
* sgclark sighs12:01
shadeslayerHarald is12:01
soeeback, Riddell so any thoughts @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834131/ ?12:09
Riddellsoee: should be fine,  then  apt -f install  to tidy up12:11
Riddellsoee: but actually I uploaded a fix12:12
Riddellso you can just apt update and full-upgrade again12:12
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soeeRiddell: ok seems to work just fine now, thanks :)12:20
Riddellsoee: yay, what did you do?12:22
soeeRiddell: just update & full-upgrade again12:23
soeeso the fix you uploaded solved teh issue 12:24
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Riddellawooga12:26
BluesKajHiyas all12:26
Riddellsoee: now does it all run and enable you to chit chat?12:26
soeeRiddell: brb have to reboot12:26
soeehmm i did configured google talk account in kde-telepathy but there was a typo in email, now i don't know how to change the conmfiguraion, i have no menu panel in the window12:33
Riddellsoee: icon on toolbar right -> Instant messenger setttings12:36
_Groo_soee: or use gnome empathy to change it... they share the config12:39
_Groo_what is the cicle window for kubuntu-ci? i cant use kde today because kwin package didnt compile cleanly :(12:40
soeeRiddell: the scroll right arrow ?12:42
soeeit is inactive, i can't do nothing with it12:43
santa_yofel: thank you very much again for pointing me to the status page code, I have modified it a bit for siduction's kdenext12:48
santa_I have been dreaming for a while to finally get something like that12:49
santa_http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_status/12:49
* Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-telepathy-0.913:04
* sgclark shares13:11
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soeesgclark: do you have ktp installed ?13:16
sgclarknah, not much of a chatter haha13:16
sgclarksoee: why? does it need testing or something?13:20
_Groo_soee: i do, i just need kwin now :D13:30
_Groo_soee: more seriously what do you need?13:31
apacheloggerdoes anyone fancy packaging something from scratch?13:37
sgclarkapachelogger: depnds how fast you need it done, I have a rather huge to-do list already13:38
Riddellapachelogger: Sick_Rimmit needs stuff to get his claws into13:38
Sick_Rimmitapachelogger: Sure, but not immediately as I'm at work. 13:39
apacheloggerSick_Rimmit: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libkeduvocdocument.git13:39
apacheloggernot super urgent13:40
Riddellapachelogger: what's that for?13:40
Riddelldoes it have a releae?13:41
apacheloggergoing to be released in the 14.12 apps release13:41
apacheloggerneeded for kanagram, khangman and parley 13:41
soeesgclark: _Groo_i would liek to know how to open app settings :)13:42
apacheloggerapparently it was split out of libkdeedu somehow, so maybe one could salvage packaging from there, although doing it from scratch likely would be faster13:42
soeegusy this is all i have when i open it: http://wstaw.org/w/31KB/13:45
soeelol :)13:47
soeethis is some kind of bug, the Right icon does not work, but if i resize widnow, i can see the icon to open menu ...13:48
Riddellmitya57: qt4-x11 uploaded13:48
soeeok i have it working now :)13:51
BluesKajhow is plasma 5/kf5 behaving these days soee?14:05
soeeBluesKaj: no changes for me - works fine as always :) Plasma 5.1.1 should be released soonish14:05
BluesKajok soee, thanks14:06
QuintasanRiddell: Is there any list of stuff to be merged in universe?14:37
RiddellQuintasan: why yes :) https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html14:38
QuintasanOh.14:39
QuintasanI though we have some Kubuntu specific list14:39
RiddellQuintasan: just search for everything that says Riddell and do that first :)14:40
QuintasanMmkay.14:40
Riddellgosh a good chunk of that list is kubuntu staff14:41
Riddellstuff14:41
RiddellI wonder if that's a good sign or not14:41
RiddellI woudn't bother with anything in KDE SC, we'll do that when KDE Appliacations gets released14:41
soeeRiddell: and when the release og KDE Applications is planed ?14:44
Riddellsoee: beta 1 tagging today says https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/14.12_Release_Schedule14:46
QuintasanRiddell: Can you add me to 15.04 board?14:50
soee:O14:50
RiddellQuintasan: done! welcome home Quintasan 14:51
QuintasanSplendid14:51
Quintasanwow14:54
Quintasanneat14:54
QuintasanI really need to start hanging around here more14:55
Riddellwe're cooler than a cafe con heilio15:04
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Riddellhola bukai 15:29
bukaiRiddell: ping15:31
Riddellbukai: you pung?15:32
RiddellQuintasan: gtk2-engines-oxygen is also a new upstream release as well as a merge15:32
RiddellQuintasan: bug 138531615:32
ubottubug 1385316 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) "Please update gtk2-engines-oxygen to 1.4.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138531615:32
QuintasanYeah, I realised that.15:32
RiddellQuintasan: oh also you could look into if we should build it with the gtk dependency for the test app15:32
RiddellQuintasan: we ship gtk on the images now so there's probably no reason why not15:33
Riddelland of course there's the gtk3 version of the same15:33
bukaiRiddell: yes, How will i get the images? shall I send a mail to kubuntu-devel?15:33
QuintasanRiddell: What is the test app?15:34
shadeslayerRiddell: python -m SimpleHTTPServer15:34
Riddellshadeslayer: 192.168.1.36:800015:35
RiddellQuintasan: it's a gtk binary that you can run from the kcm to show the settings you have set15:36
RiddellQuintasan: I disabled it because I didn't want gtk on the cdimages but we have that anyway so I guess there's no point in being so pure for no gain15:37
RiddellQuintasan: it should just be a settings in debian/rules15:37
shadeslayerRiddell: dcmd cp path/to/*/*.changes upload/15:39
shadeslayerand then make the upload dir available via python15:39
Riddellshadeslayer: 192.168.1.36:8000 up15:41
Riddellbukai_: images of what?15:51
bukai_Riddell: the blog images. BTW I came across this webpage recently , http://www.gewest13.nl/nl/home , Is this theme better than the previous one? 15:53
Riddellbukai_: well we don't have blog images, that's the issue I was pointing out, they'd need to be made15:54
Riddellhttp://www.gewest13.nl/nl/werk also looks very bling15:55
Riddellinteresting how the first use of <video> I see in the wild is as background images15:55
Riddellbukai_: well yes that design also looks good and I guess lets you have 1 most important message rather than lots of messages on your other design15:57
Riddellbug again same issue of finding or making nice artwork15:57
sgclarkI don't think we could come up with that many images lol15:58
bukai_sgclark: You can give any image to resemble your blog.16:00
Riddelllots of new plasma 5 bits in here! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue16:00
sgclarknice16:01
QuintasanRiddell: Alright, let me look into it.16:02
bukai_Riddell: I find this theme more applicable for us compared to the last one as the content is not too much and it's static as you mentioned earlier.16:02
Riddellbukai_: yes i agree16:05
sgclarkit would be ok if we had images for every blog post , but we don't16:05
Riddellbukai_: worth checking how it looks in rekonq and konqueror, would be a bit embarracing to have a website that doesn't work on KDE's browsers16:05
sgclarkI don't see how it would fit for us, but that is my opinion16:05
Quintasanhm16:06
QuintasanThe only thing in rules is -DDEBIAN_NO_DEMOS=1 but I do not think this is the switch we want so I guess it's enabled16:06
QuintasanI kept Noskcaj's Fix dh_shlibdeps to exclude libgtk2.0-0 from Depends change but that's all 16:07
RiddellQuintasan: yes that's the switch we want16:08
QuintasanRight.16:09
RiddellQuintasan: hmm actually maybe it's not16:10
QuintasanIf there is any binary then we'd probably have to get rid of the shlibs magic as well.16:11
QuintasanLemme test build it16:11
RiddellQuintasan: I know, I'm thinking of the wrong package16:11
RiddellI'm thinking of kde-config-gtk-style16:11
Riddellwhich interacts with this but isn't the same thing16:12
mitya57Riddell, thanks, and armhf build (mostly) finished (though with lots of warnings about __aeabi_atexit@CXXABI_ARM_1.3.3)16:16
Riddelland I say aeabi_atexit back to armhf16:16
bukai_Riddell: konqueror is not supporting the video aspect. We can you a slider instead. Apart from that it's  working fine.16:18
Riddellbukai_: lovely16:24
Quintasanpbuilder y u no preload eatmydata16:28
Riddell?16:29
Riddelldunno what eatmydata is but it doesn't sound like something I want to load16:29
sgclarklol16:29
QuintasanRiddell: a library that disables fsync and friends16:29
QuintasanI used it in my pbuilders so it installs stuff faster16:30
Quintasan...16:31
QuintasanThey removed the so in newer version16:32
debfxQuintasan: echo 'force-unsafe-io' > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/unsafe-io16:32
debfxshould do the same16:32
Quintasandebfx: I'd disables it for dpkg only, disabling it chroot wide should be faster theoretically.16:33
QuintasanNot that I'm going to benchmark this16:33
debfxI doubt anything in a typical build will call fsync, testsuites maybe16:34
Quintasaneh, there are more problems getting it to work now than forcing unsafe-io16:37
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QuintasanRiddell: gtk2-engines-oxygen 1.4.6 uploaded17:16
RiddellQuintasan: awooga!17:18
QuintasanThis UDD stuff is neat but I'm still not sure if I'm doing it right17:19
Riddelloh I don't use UDD17:19
* Quintasan decided to look for new tools before doing stuff how he used to.17:19
Riddellfull sources in packaging branches seems nuts to me17:19
QuintasanI'm still not sure what the hell am I supposed to do with the final commit17:20
QuintasanShould I push it or upload the changes or wtf17:20
Riddellyou need to upload, you can push if you want17:24
QuintasanHmm.17:24
QuintasanI'll just upload.17:24
QuintasanRiddell: To get package from -proposed to vivid one still has to have archive admin accept it or there are some tests done and it's accepted automagically?17:47
RiddellQuintasan: it compiles then if it installs everywhere it installed before it gets accepted magically17:49
QuintasanSplendid.17:49
Riddellcheck http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html if it doesn't get accepted17:49
* Quintasan gets onto something else.17:49
Riddellalthough that's hard to read, but the reasons are that it failes on an arch it succeeded before, it doesn't install or some autopkgtests fail17:49
Riddellautopkgtest being a newish way to add automated tests to applications17:50
Riddellto packages rather17:50
RiddellQuintasan: now you're back you should come to Munich later in the month17:50
QuintasanRiddell: Well, I'm not back per se but I'm finally having some free time17:51
QuintasanI just need to shake some people off my back.17:51
Riddell:)17:51
QuintasanIf I get this PHP and ASP.NET crap done I should have Thursdays and Fridays free.17:53
Riddellgroovy, plasma 5 and KDE SC 4.14.2 and KF 5.4.0 well on their way18:08
RiddellKF 5.4 still needs some poking in ninjas18:08
RiddellKDE Applications 14.12 beta due by tomorrow18:09
Riddelland I've to tag Plasma 5.1.118:09
Riddelllovely, time to wander off for the day18:10
shadeslayerRiddell: cya18:10
* shadeslayer bangs head against sbuild meanwhile18:11
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murthyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/138984719:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 1389847 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity waits until the driver-manager finishes before proceeding to the partitioning screen" [Undecided,New]19:40
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