[07:14] <soee> good morning
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:04] <_Groo_> good morning
[10:08] <Riddell> hola
[10:09] <apachelogger> yo
[10:09] <apachelogger> neon ppas are no more
[10:10] <tsdgeos> Riddell: you guys planning to update artikulate at any point?
[10:22] <_Groo_> life on the cutting edge is always fun
[10:22] <_Groo_> since kwin didnt compile for amd64, im back to unity :D
[10:23] <_Groo_> i was about to test the new telepathy :( bummer
[10:26] <Riddell> tsdgeos: it's waiting on some dep isn't it?
[10:27] <tsdgeos> i do not know, just asking 
[10:28] <Riddell> tsdgeos: oh it was waiting on qt-gstreamer I think which I've now updated so groovy I can sort that in vivid
[10:28] <Riddell> but I had to remove kamoso to make way for it
[10:42] <sgclark> morning
[10:43] <Riddell> hola scarletta
[10:43] <Riddell> tsdgeos: did d_ed send you something for security-preannounce?
[10:43] <Riddell> tsdgeos: oh never mind just found it in my e-mail
[10:45] <Riddell> sgclark: we should work out when and what we're doing for UOS
[10:45] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: want to help out too?
[10:46] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah we should
[10:46] <soee> Riddell: ktp-* in staging are all fine ?
[10:46] <Sick_Rimmit> Yes provided the timings work with me, I could do something simple on KDE Activities, or anything else you think
[10:47] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: you up for another package?
[10:47] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Yes,but not quite yet, I have libkpeople to update for Utopic, just a few fixes there
[10:48] <Riddell> soee: you tell me, it needs tested :)
[10:49] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: libkpeople has a utopic build in staging https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages
[10:49] <_Groo_> soee: i was about to test it when i lost kwin :(
[10:49] <Riddell> although it needs testing
[10:50] <sgclark> Riddell: I will work on k3b today as I promised valorie I would do it yesterday, I can find another package for Sick_Rimmit when he is ready :)
[10:50] <_Groo_> im waiting for the kubuntu-ci to do is thing so i can get back to my bleeding edge beloved kde
[10:50] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I got some issues from you, which I thought needed fixing, is that no so
[10:50] <soee> ill try to do an upgrade than
[10:52] <sgclark> Riddell: also I think you need to fix you script, ECM was missed again yesterday lol
[10:53] <Riddell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging  grantlee (twice), digikam, gtk2-engines-oxygen (and gtk3 I guess), phonon. take your pick :)
[10:53] <Riddell> sgclark: well spotted on there, my bad indeed
[10:56] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834058/
[10:57] <soee> oh wait it should be dist-upgrade (full-upgrade) isnt it ? 
[10:58] <Riddell> soee: yep  apt full-upgrade
[11:00] <Riddell> sgclark, Sick_Rimmit: I can do a session this evening, tomorrow evening I'm out
[11:00] <soee> Riddell: kpeople fails http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834085/
[11:00] <Riddell> sgclark, Sick_Rimmit: does 18:00UTC work?
[11:00] <Riddell> soee: ooh interesting
[11:01] <Riddell> soee:   dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-kpeople_0.9.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_amd64.deb  should fix it, does that show any more overlapping files?
[11:01] <Riddell> s/fix/workaround/
[11:01] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "soee:   dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-telepathy-kpeople_0.9.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_amd64.deb  should workaround it, does that show any more overlapping files?"
[11:01] <sgclark> Riddell: umm you are out for my devel tests????
[11:01] <Riddell> sgclark: when is that?
[11:01]  * sgclark cries
[11:02] <Riddell> sgclark: there's nothing on the schedule! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/
[11:03] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834131/
[11:03] <sgclark> Riddell: tomorrow is my kubuntu-devel test . the summit is on the 13th no? 
[11:03]  * sgclark is confused
[11:03] <soee> brb in 30 min
[11:04] <Riddell> sgclark: it's today, tomorrow and friday.  but there's nothing on any schedule
[11:05] <sgclark> what?!?! they gave me 2 days to set it up??
[11:05] <sgclark> that is not cool
[11:06] <Riddell> sgclark: oh hang on...
[11:06] <Riddell> sgclark: the dates changed, my calendar is all wrong!
[11:06] <sgclark> Riddell: 
[11:06] <sgclark> Starts: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:00:00 UTC
[11:06] <sgclark> Ends: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:55:00 UTC
[11:06] <sgclark> hah
[11:07] <Riddell> and just to confuse me the schedule has today's date and not the date of the day it's showing on it http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/
[11:07] <sgclark> but on a serious note.. you marked available for my tests and I am not going to do it without you there... are you now not available tomorrow?
[11:08] <Riddell> sgclark: what time did you decide on?
[11:08] <Riddell> I did say to a friend yesterday I'd go out for a cycle ride tomorrow evening
[11:09] <sgclark> Riddell: 
[11:09] <sgclark> By Popular demand the meeting will take place Thursday 9:00 PM UTC 
[11:09] <sgclark> 1:00PM(my time)
[11:09] <sgclark> as sent to the devel list..
[11:09] <Riddell> which seems to be at 19:00UTC
[11:10] <Riddell> right so I need to work out if it'll get back before 21:00UTC
[11:10] <Riddell> but that's my problem not yours :)
[11:10] <sgclark> well yes it is. I wnt you there
[11:11] <Riddell> worry not, I'll work it out
[11:11] <sgclark> your my confidence haha
[11:11] <sgclark> thanks
[11:12] <Riddell> but same thing next week, I'm busy thursday from 17:00UTC but free wednesday and friday any time
[11:13] <sgclark> Ok, Sick_Rimmit which is better for you Wed or Fri for the summit? and I need you LP id to add you to the blueprint
[11:24] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Prefer Weds
[11:24] <sgclark> ok. LP name?
[11:25] <sgclark> launchpad id
[11:26] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: ^
[11:27] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: LP is rick-timmis
[11:34] <sgclark> Riddell: does this fall under users or community? (UOS)
[11:37] <Riddell> sgclark: um, I've no idea what the difference is
[11:38] <sgclark> hah me either
[11:39] <apachelogger> sgclark: shadeslayer wants to talk about kci he said
[11:39] <sgclark> ?
[11:39] <sgclark> at UOS?
[11:39] <shadeslayer> what no
[11:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger is supposed to talk about KCI
[11:40] <shadeslayer> actually
[11:40] <shadeslayer> let me schedule that session for you
[11:40] <sgclark> KCI?
[11:40] <shadeslayer> http://kci.pangea.pub/
[11:40] <shadeslayer> the thing that's all red
[11:41] <sgclark> oh our ci system, gosh I need more coffee
[11:41] <Riddell> dunno if it's worth having more than one session for Kubuntu
[11:41] <Riddell> I don't know if there's an audience for these or not
[11:42] <apachelogger> no one reads my mails, so shadeslayer might as well do a session :P
[11:42] <sgclark> umm
[11:42] <shadeslayer> I do read your emails
[11:42] <sgclark> I do too
[11:42]  * sgclark looks
[11:42]  * shadeslayer just doesn't have anything to say
[11:42] <_Groo_> and all the girls say im pretty fly.. for a wifi!!! best SSID EVER!
[11:43] <_Groo_> ppl at work are very creative :P
[11:43]  * apachelogger doesn't get it
[11:43]  * sgclark doesn't either
[11:45] <Riddell> that is amusing
[11:45] <Riddell> it's a pun or play on words on a song
[11:46] <sgclark> apachelogger: I cannot find any mails from you in regards to kci and uos. But I really think it would fit in our plasma5 session as we use it for plasma5
[11:58] <Riddell> sgclark: yep book them both in to present a bit on the same session
[11:58] <sgclark> ok
[12:00] <sgclark> apachelogger: shadeslayer: Is Wed (next week) ok for both of you for UOS
[12:01] <shadeslayer> I'm not talking about KCI
[12:01] <shadeslayer> since I know very little about it :P
[12:01]  * sgclark sighs
[12:01] <shadeslayer> Harald is
[12:09] <soee> back, Riddell so any thoughts @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834131/ ?
[12:11] <Riddell> soee: should be fine,  then  apt -f install  to tidy up
[12:12] <Riddell> soee: but actually I uploaded a fix
[12:12] <Riddell> so you can just apt update and full-upgrade again
[12:20] <soee> Riddell: ok seems to work just fine now, thanks :)
[12:22] <Riddell> soee: yay, what did you do?
[12:23] <soee> Riddell: just update & full-upgrade again
[12:24] <soee> so the fix you uploaded solved teh issue 
[12:26] <Riddell> awooga
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <Riddell> soee: now does it all run and enable you to chit chat?
[12:26] <soee> Riddell: brb have to reboot
[12:33] <soee> hmm i did configured google talk account in kde-telepathy but there was a typo in email, now i don't know how to change the conmfiguraion, i have no menu panel in the window
[12:36] <Riddell> soee: icon on toolbar right -> Instant messenger setttings
[12:39] <_Groo_> soee: or use gnome empathy to change it... they share the config
[12:40] <_Groo_> what is the cicle window for kubuntu-ci? i cant use kde today because kwin package didnt compile cleanly :(
[12:42] <soee> Riddell: the scroll right arrow ?
[12:43] <soee> it is inactive, i can't do nothing with it
[12:48] <santa_> yofel: thank you very much again for pointing me to the status page code, I have modified it a bit for siduction's kdenext
[12:49] <santa_> I have been dreaming for a while to finally get something like that
[12:49] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/kdenext_status/
[13:04]  * Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-telepathy-0.9
[13:11]  * sgclark shares
[13:16] <soee> sgclark: do you have ktp installed ?
[13:16] <sgclark> nah, not much of a chatter haha
[13:20] <sgclark> soee: why? does it need testing or something?
[13:30] <_Groo_> soee: i do, i just need kwin now :D
[13:31] <_Groo_> soee: more seriously what do you need?
[13:37] <apachelogger> does anyone fancy packaging something from scratch?
[13:38] <sgclark> apachelogger: depnds how fast you need it done, I have a rather huge to-do list already
[13:38] <Riddell> apachelogger: Sick_Rimmit needs stuff to get his claws into
[13:39] <Sick_Rimmit> apachelogger: Sure, but not immediately as I'm at work. 
[13:39] <apachelogger> Sick_Rimmit: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libkeduvocdocument.git
[13:40] <apachelogger> not super urgent
[13:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's that for?
[13:41] <Riddell> does it have a releae?
[13:41] <apachelogger> going to be released in the 14.12 apps release
[13:41] <apachelogger> needed for kanagram, khangman and parley 
[13:42] <soee> sgclark: _Groo_i would liek to know how to open app settings :)
[13:42] <apachelogger> apparently it was split out of libkdeedu somehow, so maybe one could salvage packaging from there, although doing it from scratch likely would be faster
[13:45] <soee> gusy this is all i have when i open it: http://wstaw.org/w/31KB/
[13:47] <soee> lol :)
[13:48] <soee> this is some kind of bug, the Right icon does not work, but if i resize widnow, i can see the icon to open menu ...
[13:48] <Riddell> mitya57: qt4-x11 uploaded
[13:51] <soee> ok i have it working now :)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> how is plasma 5/kf5 behaving these days soee?
[14:05] <soee> BluesKaj: no changes for me - works fine as always :) Plasma 5.1.1 should be released soonish
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ok soee, thanks
[14:37] <Quintasan> Riddell: Is there any list of stuff to be merged in universe?
[14:38] <Riddell> Quintasan: why yes :) https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html
[14:39] <Quintasan> Oh.
[14:39] <Quintasan> I though we have some Kubuntu specific list
[14:40] <Riddell> Quintasan: just search for everything that says Riddell and do that first :)
[14:40] <Quintasan> Mmkay.
[14:41] <Riddell> gosh a good chunk of that list is kubuntu staff
[14:41] <Riddell> stuff
[14:41] <Riddell> I wonder if that's a good sign or not
[14:41] <Riddell> I woudn't bother with anything in KDE SC, we'll do that when KDE Appliacations gets released
[14:44] <soee> Riddell: and when the release og KDE Applications is planed ?
[14:46] <Riddell> soee: beta 1 tagging today says https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/14.12_Release_Schedule
[14:50] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you add me to 15.04 board?
[14:50] <soee> :O
[14:51] <Riddell> Quintasan: done! welcome home Quintasan 
[14:51] <Quintasan> Splendid
[14:54] <Quintasan> wow
[14:54] <Quintasan> neat
[14:55] <Quintasan> I really need to start hanging around here more
[15:04] <Riddell> we're cooler than a cafe con heilio
[15:29] <Riddell> hola bukai 
[15:31] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[15:32] <Riddell> bukai: you pung?
[15:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: gtk2-engines-oxygen is also a new upstream release as well as a merge
[15:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: bug 1385316
[15:32] <Quintasan> Yeah, I realised that.
[15:32] <Riddell> Quintasan: oh also you could look into if we should build it with the gtk dependency for the test app
[15:33] <Riddell> Quintasan: we ship gtk on the images now so there's probably no reason why not
[15:33] <Riddell> and of course there's the gtk3 version of the same
[15:33] <bukai> Riddell: yes, How will i get the images? shall I send a mail to kubuntu-devel?
[15:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: What is the test app?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[15:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 192.168.1.36:8000
[15:36] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's a gtk binary that you can run from the kcm to show the settings you have set
[15:37] <Riddell> Quintasan: I disabled it because I didn't want gtk on the cdimages but we have that anyway so I guess there's no point in being so pure for no gain
[15:37] <Riddell> Quintasan: it should just be a settings in debian/rules
[15:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: dcmd cp path/to/*/*.changes upload/
[15:39] <shadeslayer> and then make the upload dir available via python
[15:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 192.168.1.36:8000 up
[15:51] <Riddell> bukai_: images of what?
[15:53] <bukai_> Riddell: the blog images. BTW I came across this webpage recently , http://www.gewest13.nl/nl/home , Is this theme better than the previous one? 
[15:54] <Riddell> bukai_: well we don't have blog images, that's the issue I was pointing out, they'd need to be made
[15:55] <Riddell> http://www.gewest13.nl/nl/werk also looks very bling
[15:55] <Riddell> interesting how the first use of <video> I see in the wild is as background images
[15:57] <Riddell> bukai_: well yes that design also looks good and I guess lets you have 1 most important message rather than lots of messages on your other design
[15:57] <Riddell> bug again same issue of finding or making nice artwork
[15:58] <sgclark> I don't think we could come up with that many images lol
[16:00] <bukai_> sgclark: You can give any image to resemble your blog.
[16:00] <Riddell> lots of new plasma 5 bits in here! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue
[16:01] <sgclark> nice
[16:02] <Quintasan> Riddell: Alright, let me look into it.
[16:02] <bukai_> Riddell: I find this theme more applicable for us compared to the last one as the content is not too much and it's static as you mentioned earlier.
[16:05] <Riddell> bukai_: yes i agree
[16:05] <sgclark> it would be ok if we had images for every blog post , but we don't
[16:05] <Riddell> bukai_: worth checking how it looks in rekonq and konqueror, would be a bit embarracing to have a website that doesn't work on KDE's browsers
[16:05] <sgclark> I don't see how it would fit for us, but that is my opinion
[16:06] <Quintasan> hm
[16:06] <Quintasan> The only thing in rules is -DDEBIAN_NO_DEMOS=1 but I do not think this is the switch we want so I guess it's enabled
[16:07] <Quintasan> I kept Noskcaj's Fix dh_shlibdeps to exclude libgtk2.0-0 from Depends change but that's all 
[16:08] <Riddell> Quintasan: yes that's the switch we want
[16:09] <Quintasan> Right.
[16:10] <Riddell> Quintasan: hmm actually maybe it's not
[16:11] <Quintasan> If there is any binary then we'd probably have to get rid of the shlibs magic as well.
[16:11] <Quintasan> Lemme test build it
[16:11] <Riddell> Quintasan: I know, I'm thinking of the wrong package
[16:11] <Riddell> I'm thinking of kde-config-gtk-style
[16:12] <Riddell> which interacts with this but isn't the same thing
[16:16] <mitya57> Riddell, thanks, and armhf build (mostly) finished (though with lots of warnings about __aeabi_atexit@CXXABI_ARM_1.3.3)
[16:16] <Riddell> and I say aeabi_atexit back to armhf
[16:18] <bukai_> Riddell: konqueror is not supporting the video aspect. We can you a slider instead. Apart from that it's  working fine.
[16:24] <Riddell> bukai_: lovely
[16:28] <Quintasan> pbuilder y u no preload eatmydata
[16:29] <Riddell> ?
[16:29] <Riddell> dunno what eatmydata is but it doesn't sound like something I want to load
[16:29] <sgclark> lol
[16:29] <Quintasan> Riddell: a library that disables fsync and friends
[16:30] <Quintasan> I used it in my pbuilders so it installs stuff faster
[16:31] <Quintasan> ...
[16:32] <Quintasan> They removed the so in newer version
[16:32] <debfx> Quintasan: echo 'force-unsafe-io' > /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/unsafe-io
[16:32] <debfx> should do the same
[16:33] <Quintasan> debfx: I'd disables it for dpkg only, disabling it chroot wide should be faster theoretically.
[16:33] <Quintasan> Not that I'm going to benchmark this
[16:34] <debfx> I doubt anything in a typical build will call fsync, testsuites maybe
[16:37] <Quintasan> eh, there are more problems getting it to work now than forcing unsafe-io
[17:16] <Quintasan> Riddell: gtk2-engines-oxygen 1.4.6 uploaded
[17:18] <Riddell> Quintasan: awooga!
[17:19] <Quintasan> This UDD stuff is neat but I'm still not sure if I'm doing it right
[17:19] <Riddell> oh I don't use UDD
[17:19]  * Quintasan decided to look for new tools before doing stuff how he used to.
[17:19] <Riddell> full sources in packaging branches seems nuts to me
[17:20] <Quintasan> I'm still not sure what the hell am I supposed to do with the final commit
[17:20] <Quintasan> Should I push it or upload the changes or wtf
[17:24] <Riddell> you need to upload, you can push if you want
[17:24] <Quintasan> Hmm.
[17:24] <Quintasan> I'll just upload.
[17:47] <Quintasan> Riddell: To get package from -proposed to vivid one still has to have archive admin accept it or there are some tests done and it's accepted automagically?
[17:49] <Riddell> Quintasan: it compiles then if it installs everywhere it installed before it gets accepted magically
[17:49] <Quintasan> Splendid.
[17:49] <Riddell> check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html if it doesn't get accepted
[17:49]  * Quintasan gets onto something else.
[17:49] <Riddell> although that's hard to read, but the reasons are that it failes on an arch it succeeded before, it doesn't install or some autopkgtests fail
[17:50] <Riddell> autopkgtest being a newish way to add automated tests to applications
[17:50] <Riddell> to packages rather
[17:50] <Riddell> Quintasan: now you're back you should come to Munich later in the month
[17:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well, I'm not back per se but I'm finally having some free time
[17:51] <Quintasan> I just need to shake some people off my back.
[17:51] <Riddell> :)
[17:53] <Quintasan> If I get this PHP and ASP.NET crap done I should have Thursdays and Fridays free.
[18:08] <Riddell> groovy, plasma 5 and KDE SC 4.14.2 and KF 5.4.0 well on their way
[18:08] <Riddell> KF 5.4 still needs some poking in ninjas
[18:09] <Riddell> KDE Applications 14.12 beta due by tomorrow
[18:09] <Riddell> and I've to tag Plasma 5.1.1
[18:10] <Riddell> lovely, time to wander off for the day
[18:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: cya
[18:11]  * shadeslayer bangs head against sbuild meanwhile
[19:40] <murthy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1389847