[21:34] <dkessel> good evening
[21:35] <dkessel> i am trying to run "xfce4-appfinder" with autopilot using the command: autopilot3 launch -v -i Gtk xfce4-appfinder
[21:35] <dkessel> it fails with this: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "autopilot"
[21:36] <dkessel> does xfce4-appfinder need to be patched to allow introspection, or is there anything else I can do?
[21:36] <thomi> dkessel: do you have libautopilot-gtk installed?
[21:36] <thomi> that's probably what's missing
[21:37] <robotfuel> dkessel: maybe it's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1254878
[21:37] <balloons> dkessel, -vv may or may not be helpful as well
[21:37] <robotfuel> is xfce4 using gtk3?
[21:37] <balloons> they are migrating to gtk3.. I think that will help
[21:37] <balloons> xcfe gtk2 stuff doesn't respond well
[21:38] <dkessel> thomi: i have libautopilot-gtk.
[21:38] <dkessel> let's see which version this app uses...
[21:38] <thomi> yeah, gtk2 is super-old, and we don't support it
[21:39] <dkessel> thomi: ok, it is gtk2...
[21:39] <thomi> :(
[21:40] <dkessel> moving on to the next in the list...
[21:55] <dkessel> ok, i found one app with gtk3 that can also be introspected
[21:55] <dkessel> good job on the new version of "autopilot vis" thomi :) (i guess that was you)
[21:57] <balloons> isn't it nice?
[21:59] <dkessel> balloons: i believe there once was an autopilot test for firefox... that uses gtk2 too i think?
[21:59] <dkessel> yes it is!
[22:00] <balloons> dkessel, there was.. and it didn't use introspection :-) I should know, I wrote it :p
[22:00] <balloons> my first "test" using autopilot.. before it was a 1.0 release even
[22:01] <dkessel> balloons: is that still working then?
[22:02] <balloons> dkessel, I imagine it might, lol. It isn't really useful. But without introspection you can do a few things if you make some assumptions
[22:02] <dkessel> i guess it cannot?
[22:02] <dkessel> hmmmm ok so autopilot does not *need* introspection
[22:03] <balloons> well i'm not sure it's there anymore.. But you could do some stuff with bamf and unity
[22:06] <dkessel> what do you mean?