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* Kilos waves to tumbleweed 04:23
tumbleweedhi04:40
bduk1More almal05:53
Kilosmôre bduk1 05:53
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy Squirm[Mac] 06:35
Squirm[Mac]'lo06:54
superflyhi Squirm[Mac]07:13
inetprogood mornings07:38
superflyIf anyone is interested, I'm seeding the UKZN talk by RMS from both my VPSes, so you should get good download speeds07:44
ThatGraemeGuylo peeps07:48
superflyhi ThatGraemeGuy07:51
Kiloshi inetpro superfly 08:12
Squirm[Mac]busy morning08:21
SpekkoMore Kilos09:08
Spekkohey guys09:08
Spekkoanyone here familiar with Jenkins ?09:08
Kiloshi Spekko 09:08
grembleo/10:15
superflySpekko: yes, me11:24
Spekkosuperfly: how long do you think it would take to setup Jenkins for about 4 projects? With monitoring pluging ect.11:49
Kilossjoe12:28
Kiloshi gremble drussell 12:36
not_foundmusic - http://grooveshark.com/s/Get+Lucky/6KpfWR?src=313:13
Kiloshi not_found tell me about that song first14:17
KilosTinuvaMa_, your connection sucks14:17
Kilosyou too gremble 14:17
TinuvaMa_actually my connection is way way better than yours14:18
Kilosoh no, maybe faster but not as stable14:21
Kilosi dont part /join all day14:22
TinuvaMa_its super stable, the laptop is just reconnecting when it sleeps14:22
Kilosor is that your idle thing14:22
Kiloswell fix the laptop man. you okes are clever14:22
Kilosand you only get 63 mb/s more than me in speed14:23
Kiloshehe14:23
TinuvaMa_on wired i get 100Mbps14:26
Kilosthats only 95 Mb/s more than me14:28
superflySpekko: it totally depends on how complicated your setup is14:28
Kilosjust as well, with that kind of speed id never have any data left14:29
TinuvaMa_i am highly annoyed tho, that usb vga display is stupidly slow on osx14:38
TinuvaMa_that is the one thing that will make me install another OS on here14:38
Kilosthey surely have a way to speed it up14:41
Kilosupgrade graphics driver14:42
not_foundhi uncle Kilos ... it is a german band covering pop songs in russia polka style :p14:53
* not_found just assembled a braai... now to use it :)14:54
Kiloslol14:58
Kiloscamels steaks could be lekker14:59
Squirm[Mac]'lo15:03
Kiloshi Squirm 15:03
Squirm[Mac]mmm15:14
Squirm[Mac]home time15:14
Squirm[Mac]yeah... let me go home15:15
Kilosgo safe lad15:15
not_foundbraai done... nou is ek duk16:53
not_founddik16:53
not_found>.<16:53
bushtechmagie vol ogies toe17:00
Kilosfirst braai in ahab land17:00
Kilosdid you have pap and onion and tomato gravy with it not_found 17:01
Kilosbushtech, run sudo aptitude -f17:03
grembleahab land?17:03
Kilosuae17:03
grembleAh17:03
grembleIs it not immoral to have braais there?17:04
Kilosi think they live on dates and camel milk17:04
not_foundnah uncle Kilos ... still have to teach the wife how to make pap the way I like it... she is always on the slap pap :p17:04
Kilosso you do things behind locked doors17:04
Kiloslol slap pap lekker too man17:05
not_foundnah uncle Kilos ... this is the third time I have braaied... but with all the safa's here we have been to many braais17:05
not_foundtomorrow is potjie tume17:05
not_found*time17:05
Kilosyum17:05
not_foundbraai is very popular in the middle east17:05
not_foundor at least all the countries people I have had to do with here17:06
Kilosproper braai? or throw some meat on the coals and hope for the best?17:06
Kilosbraai well is an art17:06
Kilosi like mine medium rare to rare17:07
Kilosmaak dit net skrik met die vuur17:08
not_foundnah, they don't braai well but they like the idea :p17:08
not_foundthey try17:08
Kiloshaha17:10
Kilosteach them17:10
bushtechKilos, why?17:10
Kilosto see bushtech 17:12
Kiloscan be used to fix things and more17:12
Kilosyou need the pro to explain it all17:12
Kilosseems like quite a nifty tool to me17:13
not_foundnah that is ok... if there is one thing I learnt here is that you can't teach someone that doesn't want to learn :)17:13
Kilosi used it now now to fix broken packages17:13
Kiloslol not_found 17:13
Kilosthen braai and sell to them17:14
not_found:)17:14
bushtechAh, bit like fix missing17:14
Kilosya17:14
Kilosi go eat17:14
Kilosbushtech, it opens a window with options17:23
Kiloslike an aptitude gui thing17:23
bushtechThanks Kilos , works well18:54
Kilosaha18:54
Kilosi still got to sort out what all it can do18:55
bushtechusing it on my 1404 machine18:55
Kilosfound it here http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/48218:56
Kilosbut i think the pro told me to try it before18:56
Kilosi installed gtkorphan as well but dont know what it does or how18:59
inetprogood even ing19:05
Kiloshi inetpro 19:09
Kiloscan you embroider on sudo aptitude -f for us please19:09
Kilosnow dont say uh!19:09
Kilosor man19:09
inetprouh?19:10
not_foundso anyone seen the trailer for "Chappie"19:10
not_foundhugh jackman and the antwoord starring in the same movie >.<19:11
Kilosai!19:11
inetproKilos: uh is an interjection, used to express hesitation or uncertainty19:13
inetproor, used in questions to invite agreement or further comment or to express a lack of understanding19:13
Kilosyou not allowed to be hesitant or uncertain19:13
Kilosyou the aptitude man19:14
* inetpro seldom needs 'aptitude -f' these days19:14
Kilosnote - these days19:15
inetprodon't give people wrong advice19:15
inetproreally not a good idea to use -f19:15
Kilosthats why i asked you to embroider because im not  sure what all it can do19:16
inetproman aptitude says; "-f :  Try hard to fix the dependencies of broken packages, even if it means ignoring the actions requested on the command line."19:16
inetproembroider?19:16
Kilosuitbrei19:16
inetproMaaz: define embroider19:16
Maazinetpro: Embroider \Em*broid"er\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Embroidered}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Embroidering}.] [OE. embrouden. See {Broider}.] To ornament with needlework; as, to embroider a scarf. [1913 Webster]  Thou shalt embroider the coat of fine linen. --Ex. xxviii. 39. [1913 Webster], embroider v 1: decorate with needlework [syn: {embroider}, {broider}] 2: add19:16
Maazdetails to [syn: {embroider}, {pad}, {lard}, {embellish}, {aggrandize}, {aggrandise}, {blow up}…19:16
Kilosblow up19:17
Kilospad19:17
Kiloslard19:17
Kiloslard =add fat to it19:17
inetprosjoe19:17
inetpro"2.19:17
inetproadd fictitious or exaggerated details to (an account) to make it more interesting"19:17
Kilosrofl19:17
* inetpro learns a new thing every day19:18
Kilosembellish is what i meant by it i think19:19
KilosMaaz, define embellish19:19
MaazKilos: Embellish \Em*bel"lish\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Embellished}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Embellishing}.] [OE. embelisen, embelisshen, F. embellir; pref. em- (L. in) + bel, beau, beautiful. See {Beauty}.] To make beautiful or elegant by ornaments; to decorate; to adorn; as, to embellish a book with pictures, a garden with shrubs and flowers, a narrative with striking19:19
Maazanecdotes, or style with metaphors.  Syn: To adorn; beautify; deck; bedeck; decorate; garnis…19:19
Kilosai!19:19
inetproyou mean elaborate?19:19
Kilosthat too ya ty19:20
inetproai!19:20
Kilosi would trust aptitude with -f19:20
inetprono I won't19:20
inetproif you need -f something major is wrong19:20
Kilosya because you know how to do things properly19:21
Kilosi had broken packages that i couldnt fix because of some pkg thing but aptitude -f fixed it19:21
Kiloseven synaptic fix broken couldnt fix them19:22
inetprosorry but I missed the conversation, what is this about really?19:22
not_foundapt-get has super cow powers19:23
Kilosfixing things with aptitude -f19:23
Kilosapt-get --fixbroken didnt wanna fix19:23
inetpronot_found: moo19:24
inetproKilos: what is it that needs fixing?19:24
Kilosits fixed19:25
inetproKilos: ok, what is it that needed fixing?19:25
Kilosi couldnt install anything because something was broken19:25
inetproai!19:25
inetprosomething?19:25
inetproKilos: "something" is a thing that is unspecified or unknown, surely you know what it was?19:27
not_foundthe ways of the linux us mysterious19:27
not_foundnight night all19:27
Kilosi cant find the error reports19:27
inetprogood night not_found19:27
Kilosnight neelsie19:27
Kilosi tried in synaptic to install flash plugin or something and it said first fix broken packages then it couldnt19:29
Kilosand inetpro you told me to look at aptitude -f about 6 months ago and i said no place to learn more new things19:31
inetprohmm...19:32
* inetpro don't remember that19:32
Kilosno you wont19:32
Kilosyou old19:33
inetproimportant is that you first find out what packages are broken19:33
Kiloshi Joe_knock 19:33
Kilosi didnt know how19:33
Kilosanyway aptitude -f fixed it19:33
Joe_knockHello Kilos 19:33
inetproKilos: ok, next time first try to find out19:34
Kilosis there a way to fing the text of aptitude error reports19:34
inetpro-f should be the last option19:34
Joe_knockLook for the log file and use "cat /path/to/error.log19:35
Kilosok 19:35
Joe_knock*"19:35
Kilosbushtech, read hey19:35
inetproKilos: have you checked /var/log/aptitude ?19:35
Kiloswhere will i find that log file19:35
inetprohi Joe_knock19:35
Joe_knockHello inetpro 19:36
Kilosi saw the error in synaptic not aptitude19:37
Joe_knockinetpro is right. Most log files live in /var/log/19:37
bushtechKilos, yep, watching with interest19:39
inetproKilos: a GUI is for those who do not know to use the cli19:39
Kilosthats me19:39
inetprono man, you're way ahead of most others19:40
Kilosis synaptic fix broken cant fix it i think then -f is about the only thing to use for me anyway19:40
inetproaptitude should tell you exactly which package is broken19:41
Kiloslemme go read /var/log/aptitude maybe it did19:42
bushtechIf you can find the problem in /var/log you can google it and fix it. Better than the shotgun approach19:42
Kilosgoogle has dropped me before because i dont know whose directions are safe to use19:43
bushtechfair comment19:44
bushtechbut that's what this irc IS for19:44
Joe_knockGenerally, try looking for answers on askubuntu.com . They will be peer-reviewed.19:45
inetproJoe_knock: good point19:45
Joe_knockor ubuntuforums.com19:45
inetprosadly not always the case19:45
bushtechthanks for that  Joe_knock 19:46
=== Joe_knock is now known as Joe_knock_afk
* inetpro love StackExchange19:46
Kilosai!19:48
Kilos   /var/log/aptitude: command not found19:49
superflySODD: StackOverflow-driven Development19:49
superflyKilos: why would an application be living in the logs folder?19:49
Kilosask inetpro superfly 19:49
Kilos<inetpro> Kilos: have you checked /var/log/aptitude ?19:50
superflyKilos: inetpro was telling you to look in the log file, not run a command19:50
Kilosoh19:50
Kiloslemme see 19:50
bushtechit means there is nothing aptitude in /var/log19:50
inetproKilos: you're doing it wrong19:50
inetproit's a log file19:50
bushtechcd  /var/log19:51
bushtechls19:51
inetprobut as long as you do it wrong quickly I really don't mind19:52
bushtechwill show you what's in the log directory19:52
Kiloslol19:52
Kilosno man this is hard work now, looking for a prob that is fixed19:53
inetprodoing it wrong can be a better lesson that not doing it at all19:54
inetpros/that/than/19:55
Kilosi see aptitude in /var/log but it aint a directory so i cant cd there19:55
inetproai!19:55
inetproless /var/log/aptitude19:55
Kilosalso aptitude.1.gz19:55
inetproyou can even use 'less /var/log/aptitude.1.gz'19:56
Kilosi got the error in synaptic so the error report aint in aptitude19:57
Kilosno more now19:58
Kiloskop plat19:58
inetproforget about it now and remember next time19:58
Kilosty for the help19:58
inetproand stop stressing about it19:59
Kilosnext time i get an error like that ill ask19:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:38
=== Joe_knock_afk is now known as Joe_knock

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